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We were braced for rotation but never, never in our wildest nightmares did we expect it on this scale.

Rafa Benitez’s decision to drop Rob Elliot last night was merely a tease, that setback for thousands of Fantasy managers now pales into insignificance next to the implications of tonight’s teamsheets.

Leroy Sane is perhaps the major casualty. He’s strangely omitted from the Manchester City squad, despite the fact that he could now go into the weekend clash with West Ham having to avoid a booking to prevent a one-match suspension for the trip to rivals United. Pep Guardiola’s decision to omit a player who has been devastating in home matches and who is owned by over 1.5 million managers is puzzling. We await clarity.

Sane’s absence allows Gabriel Jesus and Sergio Aguero to start together, with Raheem Sterling also retained against visiting Southampton.

Elsewhere, there are a string of prime Fantasy assets on the bench. These include Eden Hazard who is captained by 185,000 managers and Mohamed Salah who has the backing of 472,000.

They are joined by Cesar Azpilicueta, David Silva and Philippe Coutinho as Fantasy managers are left scouring their own bench for autosub solutions.

Plans and Gameweek scores are likely to be devastated, but surely very few of us will have escaped unscathed. Tonight’s teamsheets will go down in Fantasy folklore.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Krafty Werks
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Best budget 3rd striker to bring in now?

    A - Wilson
    B - Niasse
    C - Abraham
    D - Murray
    E - Other?

    Thanks.

    1. Mosey
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      niasee

      1. Krafty Werks
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Hasn't played last 2 and Rooney with a hat-trick today, maybe not the best idea?

        1. william prunier
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Rooney ain't got the legs

        2. Scout Pics
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Because he's been banned lol

        3. Goalosaurus
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Rooney could be playing in midfield so not necessarily direct competition to niasse.

    2. Scout Pics
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Niasse

    3. acidicleo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      b clearly due to price..

    4. Krafty Werks
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Ok thanks for replies all.

  2. Rash
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    How is that a kdb goal? Clearly not a shot

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I think it really was an OG

      1. Rash
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Shocking from fpl imo

        1. Gooner97
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          They're only doing it so people go and buy him

        2. Professor Abel X
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Based on Opta isn’t it?

    2. SC not pearls before swine
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Willian's goal last week wasn't a shot either. It was on target when VvD touched it. Definitely weird because Forster probably would have had it were it not for the deflection, but whatever.

  3. stat
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Bench one:

    A) Daniels vs SOU
    B) Mee vs lei
    C) RLC vs wba

    1. klavan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      b

    2. mdm
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B

  4. Yozzer
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Alonso and morata rested next game likely?

    1. mdm
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Only Morata

    2. Teror
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I don't see why Morata would be rested. He's the only fit striker in Chelsea's squad and they've got to keep up the chase rather than sit back. I think he'll play.

    3. Mosey
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      none of them will be rested. given how they scraped thru without hazard and their best players not getting the delivery and dribbles of hazz

  5. Teror
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    I've had the most incredibly season ever so far and this has been my first awful game week that I've forgotten how nauseating that feeling of dejection is. My only two mini leagues where I'm second both of my competitors had Salah as VC. I never want to feel like this again.

  6. FISSH
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    How did jesus get an assist!?

    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Drew the FK

    2. jdp219
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      that's what I was wondering

    3. AzzaroMax99
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I think that he was fouled and Kevin scored from free kick.

    4. FISSH
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Wow how jammy. It wasn't de Bruynes goal

    5. che
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      See my post below. Ridiculous

  7. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Have 2FTs, really have no idea what to do!

    DDG/Elliot
    Azpi/Mee/Daniels/Moreno/Duffy
    Salah/Sane/Sterling/Richarlison/Gross
    Kane/Morata/Niasse

    All I can think of is Elliot to a dead keeper to gain 0.1... (0 ITB) or Sane out depending on news... any suggestions appreciated 🙂

    1. Mosey
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Your team looks solid, no xfer needed IMO

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks! 🙂

    2. Freddo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      That is a very nice team.

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers 🙂 WC over the IB has certainly paid off so far

    3. vartshk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Um.... not a lot you can do to improve that!

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Haha cheers 🙂 might do that GK move then!

    4. AttackAttackAttack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I have the same team and don't know what to do with my 2ft either. Guess downgrading 2nd keeper is best option.

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah that's what I'm thinking! Cheers 🙂 might even do DDG to Courtois for the derby and back again if no issues by then haha

    5. Salarrivederci
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      If Sane is out (don't think he will be, but if)

      You could do DDG + Sane -> Courtois + Mane.

      Which defender are you planning to start with Azpi and Moreno next GW?

      I got Lowton, Aké and Duffy. But also Monreal and Mustafi. Headache to field 3/5 of them.

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers 🙂 no idea, probably Mee as a default but haven't looked at fixtures yet!

        In your case might be worth playing just one of Ars defence. Mustafi, Lowton, Ake? Monreal first sub?

        1. Salarrivederci
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Ye. You're right. ThoughI do think chances of Gunners CS is higher than Burnley (lei) and Aké (SOU).

          Would look like this then:

          Courtois
          Mustafi, Aké, Lowton
          Salah(VC), Hazard(C), Zaha, Sterling
          Kane, Morata, Niasse

          (Speroni, RLC, Monreal, Duffy)

          1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Looks good to me 🙂 if you're feeling ballsy re Arsenal (every chance Jose parks the bus) then I'd play them ahead of Lowton 🙂

            1. Salarrivederci
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Thx. Hope Lowton will be ready and not still out due to knock. seems like we all need a playing bench atm 😉

    6. acidicleo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      solid team..maybe elliot out..

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks 🙂

    7. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      DDG to Courtois

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Considering this - thanks!

  8. AzzaroMax99
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Fabianski & Azpi --> Courtois & Bellerin for free?

    1. mrwinner
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      why take out Azpi?

    2. Puzzle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Why would you sell Azpi now? He'll probably play the rest of the season now, he's a machine.

      1. william prunier
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        This

      2. AzzaroMax99
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Not now, in a week or two. I need stronger keeper and real WB.

        1. Puzzle
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Azpi is a percect player for christmas, got rotated once in 2 seasons. Keep.

        2. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Fabs is the second highest scoring keeper ?

  9. F4L
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    is Gross to sterling worth it?

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      No-one else you can do? gross is a hero, amazing value atm

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        current mid is:

        Hazard Richarlison Gross Salah Sane. Don't really want to drop anyone else

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Aye fair enough. Would be a shame but he makes the most sense there

          1. F4L
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            yeah that's what I thought, cheers

        2. Mosey
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          midifield solid, no need to xfer in sterling

          1. F4L
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            probably. Will wait and revaluate later

        3. vartshk
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Looks good, wouldn’t chase sterlings points.

        4. @fpl_phenom
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Sane > Sterling

    2. Teror
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

    3. mdm
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      No

    4. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Sterling rested this week ?

  10. Freddo
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Double Chelsea defence feels pretty essential when you look at their fixtures.

    4 clean sheets in their last 5 games, they are in that groove again.

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Wavering on DDG to courtois while Jones out...

      1. Freddo
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I've just added Courtois to Alonso, their next 10 or so games look ripe for plenty of returns.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          I have Azpi and Morata atm. 2FTs and no idea what to do so might just do it for the sake of it! Rival has double UTD defence though...

          1. Freddo
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Just seen your team, if it's not broke, don't fix it, burn one transfer to change Elliot to a 4 and roll the other, that is my suggestion.

            1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Thanks 🙂 talking sense! Don't normally have one to burn, so was getting twitchy!

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      cant work out whether to loose Hazard or Morata for it though

    3. 42towels
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I have Azpi and Christensen, but seeing the Elliott benching, could have the used the slot for Courtois.

    4. Magic Andrés
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Indeed. Courtois + Alonso saved me these last couple of weeks.

  11. Hansel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Bottomed:

    a) Silva -> Sterling for free

    b) Morata + Silva -> KDB + Vardy (-4)

    1. GOTHAM City F.C.
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      a.

    2. mdm
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B

  12. mrwinner
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Elliot / Alli / Laca > Hazard / Pope / Vardy for -8?

  13. Touré De Force
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone still think KDB isn't good value?

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I don't.

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        As in he's not good value?

    2. mrwinner
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      sterling is the only good value city asset

      1. FISSH
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Sane? Lol

        1. F4L
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          love how Sane has just been thrown out the window 😆

          1. william prunier
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Totally lol

  14. LosBlancos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    thoughts on Eliott?

    1. Sir Edo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Sell I think! Go for a safe option..

  15. Henning
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Last one before bedtime

    1.Vardy and Young in for Niasse and Pogba
    2. Vardy and Hazard/de bruyne in for Morata and Silva?

    1. Mosey
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      None. vardy and hazard are keepers

    2. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Don't like 1 a bit.
      Maybe 2, but I would not want to see Alvaro go unless I had 2 very strong other forwards.

    3. aborg
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      surely 2 ...Vardy and De Bruyne in. Hazard is inconsistent.

  16. Boxwoods
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Who can beat this for a disaster GW?

    Shipped Ritchie (11pts), Vardy (8pts), and Tarroll (2pts) for Cout (DNP), Niasse (banned, which I knew, but still), and RLC (3pts) for (-4). So negative 22 there.
    Sane, Azpi, and Lowton also failed to make the pitch, and Silva got just 16 mins. 1s and 2s from Morata, Alli, Pope, Daniels, and Yeddy.
    19 pts after the hit, with only a late goal from Kane(c) sparing me from an 11.

    1. skriniar
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      which u know, but still

    2. Puzzle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Haha, wow. Sorry, that was comical. Surely wins the rough on the scoutcast!

  17. che
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Not sure on KDB being given the goal tonight. It was a cross heading into the goalies arms before Van Dyke touched it. Even more dubious is how Jesus is given an assist! The FPL rules state that if an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass, significantly altering the final destination of the ball, then no assist is given. Thoughts?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      happy i have kdb 🙂 didnt see the game so cant comment

    2. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Agree. Garbage all round.

    3. FISSH
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yep. Could cost me

    4. Rash
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Absolute farce

    5. SC not pearls before swine
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think the assist is questionable. If it's a KDB goal, then the guy who won the free kick gets an assist. The goal is weird because it's probably not going in if VvD doesn't touch it. But who knows, maybe Forster completely misreads it and lets it slip through his hands, in which case it's definitely De Bruyne's goal, which is why the goal rule is the way it is.

      1. che
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        The goal is up for debate, but the assist is clearly not an assist. It's written in the rules

        1. SC not pearls before swine
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          The rule you quote is talking about a pass. If the direction of a pass is altered by a defender, there's no assist. The way the shot goes in has nothing to do with whether there's an assist or not, unless it's ruled an own goal.

          1. che
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            The final pass was KDBs though. It certainly wasn't a shot

            1. SC not pearls before swine
              • 15 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Then you're arguing it's an own goal. If the attacker's goal, it's a shot, regardless of De Bruyne's intentions. If it's KDB's goal, the assist is indisputable.

              1. che
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                The rule states: "if an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is given." The final pass was made by KDB and the intended destination was significantly altered. So no assist to Jesus, surely?

                1. SC not pearls before swine
                  • 15 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Because it's ruled as KDB's goal, it's not a pass, it's a shot. KDB's intentions don't matter, only whether or not the ball was going to be on target if the defender hadn't redirected it.

                  1. che
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    That's not what it states in the rules though. It states the final pass before a goal is scored. Jesus didn't make a pass. He was fouled in the build up

                    1. SC not pearls before swine
                      • 15 Years
                      8 years, 8 months ago

                      It also states that the player fouled before a direct free kick that results in a goal gets an assist. Like Paul Pogba with Ashley Young's second goal against Watford.

                      1. che
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        Only if it's "directly scored" - Like Ashley Young's was. KDBs wasn't directly scored, hence no assist as an opposing player touched it before it reached its intended destination

                      2. SC not pearls before swine
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        But Opta ruled it was directly scored because it's KDB's goal. It's either an own goal or it's not. They ruled the deflection incidental.

                      3. che
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        That's just your personal opinion on it. It doesn't state that in the rules. Opta aren't even mentioned in the rules on assists.

                      4. SC not pearls before swine
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        FPL doesn't determine who's goal it is. They get that from Opta. If it's KDB's goal, there's an assist, unless he had won the free kick himself, or the pass to him had been deflected. They ruled it a goal. Therefore, the goal came directly from a free kick, therefore the player who won the free kick gets an assist.

                        I would have been fine if they'd ruled it an own goal. That makes the most sense to me. But if it's KDB's goal, Jesus gets an assist.

                      5. che
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        No assist needs to be given though. An assist only needs to be given if a foul directly leads to a goal, or a pass that directly leads to a goal. Neither was the case here. So no assist should be given. I don't think even Jesus himself would expect an assist for that (not even the walking on water dude)

                      6. SC not pearls before swine
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        The foul did lead directly to the goal if it's a De Bruyne goal. It has to be an all or nothing rule or else you're opening yourself up to an subjective criteria. It has to be an own goal if you don't want the Jesus assist. By the stats, KDB's free kick is identical to Young's.

  18. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    anyone thinking of gettinh kenny, home to huddesrsfield could be a cleanie 🙂

    1. Scout Pics
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Already got him

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        nice one.

  19. Ratatouille
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Sane was apparently left out to have his back tattooed! A huge Sane tattoo for this weekend’s hatrick 🙂

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Srsly? It's his job ffs

  20. 42towels
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Do fpldiscovery average points include Autosub points? Thanks!

    And was the rotation really as bad as the article makes it out to be? Folklore? Feel like we've seen worse over the seasons.

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Worst Iv ever seen... Azpil was the real shocker!

  21. Gooner97
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Are you selling Dann?

    1. Sir Edo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yes, and Speroni. Or maybe Elliott.. 🙂

    2. 42towels
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah I think I need to, just not sure when. Hate that my last 3-4 transfers have all been on defense though!

  22. AnfieldLad
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Can anyone advice me on what to do with

    (Elliot, Krul) 1FT 0.2ITB

    A) Eliot -> Henny
    B) Hit to get someone nailed and better
    C) Save FT and use 2 to get someone better

  23. Rainer
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    People expecting consistency from FPL regards KDBs 'goal' 😆

    Don't waste your energy!

    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Nothing to do with FPL

  24. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Hurry up and update ffs

    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      You'll be waiting awhile - a lot of autosubs tonight

  25. Rafiki
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Krul and Eriksen to Courtouis and Sterling with 2FT seems a no brainer right?

  26. Numb
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    KDB or Hazard?

    1. william prunier
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Haz

  27. Fernando Torres
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    A) Wilson + Krul -> Calvert Lewin + Pope (-4)
    B) Alli/Sane -> 9.3M midfielder for free

    My other GK is Elliott

  28. Differentiator
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    6th consecutive green arrow and still own no city 🙂

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Nice

    2. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      How do you know you have a green arrow?

  29. Jimmers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Davies/Jesus > Christensen/Morata?

  30. mrwinner
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Please complete 3rd option. Have 9.2 to spend. Thinking Vardy, don't really need the funds elsewhere. -8 almost unavoidable with Elliot and Laca out with no strong bench and further likely rotation on Sat.

    Elliot / Alli / Laca > Hazard / Pope / ******** for -8.