Moving Target
21 June 2018 741 comments
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Lukasz Fabianski has joined West Ham after being relegated with Swansea City – and he is expected to retain his value as a Fantasy Premier League asset next season.

The Polish goalkeeper has been a renowned producer of saves for several years, making him a good signing for Manuel Pellegrini at the London Stadium.

We’ve had a look at the underlying statistics behind Fabianski’s success in 2017/18, as well as the shortcomings at West Ham, to weigh up whether he should be on our radar for Gameweek 1.

THE HISTORY

Last season was the latest in a long line of campaigns where Fabianski used his huge save-count and a handful of clean sheets to claw his way up the FPL charts. In the end only David De Gea (172) and Ederson (158) accrued more points than Fabianski. His score of 157 was his best ever recorded in four years at Swansea.

That extended spell was characterised by his ability to stack up large numbers of saves. In fact, in every single campaign in south Wales Fabianski finished in the top three for that statistic:

  • 2014/15: 140 (ranked 1st)
  • 2015/16: 117 (ranked 2nd)
  • 2016/17: 118 (ranked 3rd)
  • 2017/18: 142 (ranked 2nd)

Breaking his most recent year down into more detail, Fabianski’s importance to Swansea becomes even more clear. While Jack Butland recorded eight more saves overall at Stoke, the Swans’ shot stopper made more than anyone else when facing shots in the box (93). Furthermore, of the 142 saves made, 30 of those were caught and held. No goalkeeper did so more often than Fabianski.

His save percentage of 72.1 was the fifth best in the division while only David De Gea (+11.70) and Nick Pope (+9.30) boasted better xG Prevented (+4.10). Success in those departments led to him picking up 34 additional points for saves in 2017/18, accounting for 21.65% of his 157 points. 15 more points were picked up from the stopping of three penalties, again more than anyone else.

The importance of saves to Fabianski’s success is best demonstrated by the fact that his clean sheet potential doesn’t always match what is expected of high-performing goalkeepers. The average number of shut-outs recorded by the top-six FPL shot-stoppers in 2017/18 was 12.33 while Fabianski sat below that with nine. Nobody else in the top six registered fewer. However, it was still more than enough to supplement his strength in other areas.

As for bonus points, again Fabianski never dominates but is a solid performer. He was top for Baseline Bonus Points System with a score of 672 (50 more than Butland) this season, and only England internationals Jordan Pickford and Nick Pope made more recoveries (403 and 387) than the former Arsenal man (368). But such numbers didn’t always convert into points proper. Four goalkeepers finished the campaign with more bonus points than Fabianski, his score of 14 good enough only for fifth place.

Obviously the statistics recorded by goalkeepers are influenced by the team they are playing in, and Swansea was the perfect club to get the best out of Fabianski from a Fantasy perspective. In 2017/18 they ranked 19th for shots on target conceded with 190 and were 18th for expected goals conceded too (59), giving him plenty to do. So do West Ham offer the same type of potential for saves and clean sheets?

THE PROSPECTS

The short answer to this question is “overwhelmingly yes.” In fact, the underlying statistics of West Ham’s defence could even suggest that Fabianski may prove to be a better Fantasy asset than he was at Swansea next season.

That’s because the Hammers ranked lower than Swansea both for total shots allowed and goals conceded in 2017/18. Only Burnley (570) and Stoke City (579) obliged their opponents more times than West Ham (563), while their shots on target conceded count (187) was similar to Swansea’s 190. Crucially, the London side’s expected goals conceded figure was just 56.10, and yet they were still breached on 68 occasions, just under 12 more times than they should have been. While that could lead to Fabianski keeping clean sheets less often, the data recorded at Swansea last season do suggest he will improve them as a side.

The change of manager at West Ham may, of course, have an impact on how vulnerable they are the back, of course. It remains to be seen whether or not new centre-back Issa Diop will make a difference too. We may find in the early weeks of 2018/19 that the Hammers allow considerably fewer shots on goal than they did previously.

If that’s the case then, of course, Fabianski’s price will play a part in whether or not we should be considering him for our sides. His value in recent years has stemmed from a £4.5m starting price and if he begins the new campaign in the same bracket then he will be more a attractive proposition than if he experiences a hike to £5.0m.

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  1. Jernau M Gurgeh
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    no

    1. Fantastisk
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      This

  2. OldBenKenobi
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Wow! Just wow

  3. el polako
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    They really not helping poor Diego to stay clean, arent they ?

  4. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    This defensive performance by Argentina is disgraceful. Are they that arrogant that they think defending is only for defenders? Need some humility IMO. Remind me of England at some points between 2006 and 2012. If you don't concede you can't lose. Surely that is a basic starting point.

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Caballero has lost them this game. If that first goal doesn’t go in it’s a different game imo

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      This is what happens when 3 at the back goes wrong

  5. Jay_
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Adios Argies 😀

  6. Fred54
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Timing of this article as bad as the Argentinian defence...

  7. Fantastisk
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Messi goes missing yet again. Fraudulent behaviour for the national team.

  8. UshFPL
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    I'm still considering Messi for next week on WC. Argentina need to score a few and Nigeria are poor. Thoughts?

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Are you insane? Are you blind?

      1. OldBenKenobi
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Lol! They needed to score in this game that it didn’t happen. I’m with Kolarov on this one!

    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      yeah... Argentina really looks like they will score a few, particularly Messi

  9. Emiliano Sala
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Bringing in kimmich and layun for messi and cueva...
    And maybe inui for isco later

    1. squ1rrel
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      how do you brin gin a defender and a midfielder for a forward and a midfielder???

      1. squ1rrel
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        *bring in

  10. Karan_G14
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Stick or twist Eriksen (7)?

    Danilo ➡️ Kaku ➡️ James

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Twist, you got good backup.

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Same answer I gave last time.

  11. Jolly Good
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    I know this must have been discussed a thousand times. But how can a player who looks so good playing for Barcelona look that poor playing for Argentina

    1. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Barcelona as a team is way superior to Argentina.

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      The whole Argentina squad plays in different leagues. They're used to a different style of football all year. Don't expect them to perform all of a sudden. However, things could've been much better if the team had someone like Simeone managing.

      1. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        It’s never helped England having a team full of domestic based players

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          It could well be that having all of them play domestic has actually always been helpful for England and they've just been woeful for other reasons. Not useful comparing it to this situation, although we're all blowing hot air out our arses a bit after a game like that

          1. HamezMace
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 28 days ago

            All the big nations have players dotted around the world.
            Only teams like Saudi Arabia have entirely domestic only players.

            1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 28 days ago

              Fair point

    3. Jolly Good
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Portugal is way poorer, yet Ronaldo almost always turns up for them

      1. Chandler Bing
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        I can't get over the fact that people call Portugal "way poorer" than Argentina? How exactly?

        They have a better defense. Better midfield. Say Messi and Ronaldo cancel each other out. Only the striker spot beats Portugal's and no strikers in the Argentina team ever turn up.

        1. HamezMace
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          Agreed.
          Portugal team has less big name attackers, but overall much better balance

        2. Jolly Good
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          Hard to argue which player is better in each position, but bookies had Argentina way lower odds to win the World Cup than Portugal before it began ... probably best indication of a better team overall

          1. Chandler Bing
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 28 days ago

            The media just keeps hyping Argentina because of the big forwards. I still think a change in manager could turn things around for the team for the Copa America.

    4. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Because Barcelona are a 'team' and Messi is the 'man'. The reality is the guy at Barcelona who didn't like that Messi was the main man left (Neymar). With Argentina I don't see Higuain and Aguero pulling for Messi. No defensive midfielder who wants to win the ball back and say give it to Messi as he is the man. The difference between Portugal and Argentina is startling. Portugal do everything they can to help Ronaldo whereas you don't see it with Argentina and Messi.

  12. Godfather Bandit 42
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    One of my rivals twisted from Ron to Messi.
    I'm not loling though....

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Interesting.

    2. elcapitan1
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      it's fair enough though, ronnie only scored 1 goal. Plenty of games left to have a punt on captains

  13. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    ITS COMING HOME

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Germany?

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        yeah their players are coming home

  14. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Fabregas comes across as a nice guy on TV. Doesn't appear to be any bitterness that he isn't in the Spain squad - still wants them to win.

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      That's because he's on TV.

      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        LOL

  15. Niemi
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Somehow Argentina still got a realistic chance to make the round of 16.

    If Nigeria win tomorrow, a win for Argentina against Nigeria is enough.

    If Nigeria and Iceland draw, a win for Argentina against Nigeria is enough as long as Iceland don't beat Croatia.

    Still possible if Iceland win tomorrow, but less realistic.

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Goal difference? Who'll consider that. They're down by 3.

    2. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      I agree and said the same thing on the last article.
      A draw tomorrow is highly likely, as is Argentina beating Nigeria...then Iceland would need to beat Croatia

    3. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      It doesn't matter. They will go out the next one.

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      In all likelihood if went through will play France in last 16 who not really looking that good either.

    5. Nailed Jesus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Surely Argentina beating Nigeria isn't that realistic!

  16. JLAEST
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Twist Eriksen? Got Coutinho > Lukaku > Mojica. Inclined to stick...

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Stick if that's what you are inclined to do.

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      First thing tomorrow, I'm gonna make t-shirt; stick or twist?

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        This is supposed to be the new post.

  17. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Can any of you change Captain right now?
    I can´t it seems

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      No not yet.

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Cheers.

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Usually it updates around midnight.

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Thanks.

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          No problem.

  18. Holding Matip
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Imagine Messi scores 4 to shut everyone up and carry Argentina through

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Fingers crossed. He's done it before.

    2. The Orienteer - find me in …
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Oh dear!

  19. The Tinkerman
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    When are you using your WC?

    Tempted to WC this week, my team was set up for rounds 1&2, plus it seems a good time to get on players before rises.

    I initially planned to go after the R16 since you have the highest probability of losing players, and only 3 transfers to fix it.

    1. squ1rrel
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Do it after R16. I WCed last week and I regret it :/

    2. JLAEST
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Quarter finals. Only 3 transfers there. If you get your R16 bets wrong, you may compromise your entire game. On the other end, now worst case you lose a couple points.

  20. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    If promoted keepers, like Rui Patricio, should be 4.5m. Then relegated keepers, like Fabianski, should be 4m.

    Thanks, FPL 🙂

    1. The Tinkerman
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Ever the optimist

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Rui will be 5mil imo

    3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      I think both will be 5m

  21. SOTHPAW
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    I currently have Eriksen as my captain, should i stick on 14 points or switch to captain Coutinho tomorrow? I have Lukaku waiting in last chance saloon.

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      What is your gut telling you?

    2. barracuda
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Same trouble

    3. JLAEST
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Exactly the same. I'm inclined to stick as getting more would require:
      a) Coutinho doing a goal + assist/goal: unlikely with Keylor in goal and Neymar wanting to show he's in form
      b) Lukaku brace: unlikely after a first brace and Tunisia didn't look so bad
      b) Mojica doing clean sheet + assist: i'd be extremely happy with just one of these but i doubt I'll get any

  22. Kolarov Fpl Legend
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Last round games, front 3 are Costa, Ronaldo, Kane.
    Would you sell anyone for someone else?

    1. The Tinkerman
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      No. I’m tempted to WC and I’d be getting in Ronaldo and Costa probably.

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        So Kane out?

        1. The Tinkerman
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          Why? Only if you have absolutely nothing else to fix. It’s the third round, plenty of players from teams already qualified (or nothing to play for) will be rested.

          1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 28 days ago

            Because you said you would bring in the other two.

    2. JLAEST
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      I would sell Kane for someone else. Maybe Lewa vs. Japan.

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Tnx

  23. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Biggest shock of the World Cup by far tonight with Argentina losing 3-0 to Croatia and we get a post about Fabianski and West Ham....

    One extreme to the other.

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      For me it's;
      Iran scored the same amount of goals as Argentina.

      1. Holding Matip
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Well technically Iran scored 0, Argentina scores 1

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      The timing is bad but tbf it's a good article

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Aye.

    3. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Still think Mexico Germany was a bigger one. The Argentina squad is shambles and SAMPAOLI being their manager doesn't do them any better. But with Germany, we expected them to batter Mexico and Mexico came off a 2-0 loss against Denmark only days before the Germany game.

      1. barracuda
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        What could he done better? He wasn't playing...

        1. Chandler Bing
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          Well, for first, have a clue who needs to start and what kind of tactics the team needs to use. The team clearly doesn't know how to exploit their best players.

          1. barracuda
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 28 days ago

            Plenty black holes in that side.

            1. Chandler Bing
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 28 days ago

              Yeah, agreed on that part. However, I still feel the manager plays a big part here. Not calling Rulli to stand between the sticks in the first place ruined the team's core. Secondly, starting with a different formation and changing 3-4 players each game is not what you do in a World Cup. He's been the manager for a while, his lineup should be well sorted by now.

              1. barracuda
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 28 days ago

                I get your points but they shouldn't lose 3:0 to Croatia . He is an offensive coach, perhaps started with very pragmatic approach with 4:4:2 after seeing some bigger teams crumble already. I think a good coach needs to be able to adapt or change the system when he needs to. He did that today but the holes played like holes. He did well in Sevilla and yes, his goalie choice is on him. Willy has many cons.

    4. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      It's a bit like when they start the Scoutcast in the 85th minute of a big Champion's League tie because obviously we all that desperate to watch them instead.

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        You will always have an upvote from me.

      2. _Make
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        People watch it live? Why?

    5. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Do the comments ever have anything to do with the article though?

    6. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      I wasn't a shock

      Form pointed to a Croatia victory

  24. Paramaribo
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Would you stick to Eriksen as a captain if you have Coutinho, Lukaku, James Rodriguez for the next 3 gamedays?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      No. Would you?

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Are you serious?

  25. Holding Matip
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    I asked people whether to captain Erik or Messi - 6/7 people said Messi

    Apparently this is a football experts site?

    1. Longlatini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Don’t know what gave you that idea

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        This.

      2. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        😀

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Good thing you didn't pay for it.

    3. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Apparently, you can't predict the future and upsets are meant to happen?

      Besides, why spend 12M on Messi in the first place if you won't even captain him?

      1. Holding Matip
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        That was the point I was trying to make - we can do endless research but surprises/upsets happen

    4. barracuda
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Don't blame others.

    5. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      There are only a few of us who are experts but we tend not to answer questions as the din and volume of stupidity tends to drown us out

    6. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Ha, where does it say it’s a football experts site?

    7. Holding Matip
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Well that light-hearted joke wasn't taken well...

      1. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        If you’re new here let me explain,

        We get constant posts from people asking for our help/advice, which we give them based of are knowledge of statistics, and watching lots of games, but if it doesn’t work out they follow it up with...

        ‘Ugh you guys are all idiots, knew I should have stuck to my instict and captained player X, instead of listening to you’

    8. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      says the guy with arsenal's worst defender in his username 😯

    9. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Expert site?

      Have you seen the posts? People STILL asking how the captaincy works

    10. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Absolute clown post

  26. The Tinkerman
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Do we know if the price rises of players we already own in WC fantasy will add to our budget?

    Or is it just blanket 105m budget, and there is no advantage to owning the risers in advance?

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Logical thing would be to add up + 5.0 mil.

    2. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Discussed this earlier and no seems to know.
      It was suggested that owning rises wouldn’t matter and we’ll all be starting from stratch again

  27. noquarternt
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Why does everyone love Iceland?

    They play brutal contain type defensive football and are loved for it, yet when any other team does the same they get slated?

    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      because they're plucky underdogs. does it really need saying?

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      The same reason why Burnley is loved and Mourinho's teams aren't.

    3. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Small nation who are complete underdogs

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        This. with a population that small it´s a massive achievement to get the results they do Since Lagerbäck organized them

    4. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      The Viking Clap! \0/

      1. Syd.
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Does it itch?

        1. Godfather Bandit 42
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          Sometimes but I just put Ice on it.

          1. Red Dagger ✪
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 28 days ago

            Arctic Chard works for me.

    5. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      They are handsome.

      1. Red Dagger ✪
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        I second this.

    6. Totalfootball
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Because they are minnows and not expected to win and
      also because they have a cool celebration

    7. noquarternt
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Why are they still plucky underdogs? They've got plenty of top level/prem players and have a pretty good record in recent years.

      The population thing is meaningless as they're a rich developed nation that focuses on football.

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        It really isn't meaningless at all. 300 000 is not a large pool to draw talent from. It's smaller than 7 or 8 English Cities at least.

      2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Also, they've got 2 or 3 "top-level players". The rest are medium to part time.

      3. the axolotl
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        you're maybe just trolling here, but, with respect, that's just nonsense. smallest country population ever to qualify. it's astounding how well they've done to get here and i for one would absolutely love it, love it, if they got out of the group

        1. noquarternt
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          The population is tiny and they've done very well. But when Uruguay, a country with 3 million people, beat Saudi Arabia- people on here we're going berserk. 3 mill is a lot more than 300k, but the viritol was incredible. 'Disgusting', 'disgraceful' etc.

          Maybe just the Cavani cappers, but think Iceland are here on merit and hardly huge underdogs anymore.

          1. the axolotl
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 28 days ago

            for pity sake, it's their first world cup, it's probably the biggest thing ever to happen to their country. it's absolutely immense. you'd need to be blind not to see it, and heartless not to feel a little bit of joy in it

          2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 28 days ago

            Well, yes, they're here on the merit of their system which they have exploited perfectly to other teams' detriment. Vitriol on here is not really indicative of how poor a team is anyway... Uruguay had a great defensive performance, but got slated anyway (tbf they deserved it a bit for not going for the kill but mostly its just angry Cavani cappers, myself included)

      4. Hamstergod
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Isn't handball the main sport there?

    8. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Sara Sigmundson

      1. Midlands Saint73
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Do you mean Sara Sigmundsdottir?

        1. HamezMace
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          I do.
          Is Dottir the correct Icelandic for ‘sson’

    9. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Because they barely have a larger population than Leicester

    10. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      I don't . Bag of defensive anti football shite.

      Hope the Argies go through just for that man Diego

    11. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Cool name!

    12. Hamstergod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      I think they sum it up here

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmqChopExKk

      Personally been following them since 1998 , it's a mix of the underdog thing and the positive attitude towards it

    13. Je suis le chat
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Beautiful wild country, spent a week there. They must be a seriously hardy race, nation of 300k souls.

    14. Alex_thekid
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Because they do excellent luxury Deluxe ready meals delivered for free
      #Thepoweoffrozen

  28. Emiliano Sala
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    What the hell
    Danilo injured ? 😐

    1. barracuda
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Sure thing?

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Yes fagner will start 😐

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Source? Not seeing anything about it

    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Post a source then?

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Brazil federation

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 17 Years
          8 years, 28 days ago

          Can't see anything . Can you post a link

  29. jimmy.floyd
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    Penalty takers for Germany and Spain?

    1. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Not me

      You need to be German, Turkish, Spanish or Brazilian

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        You forgot Polish.

    2. barracuda
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Mueller and D. Silva/Ramos

    3. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Muller or Ozil
      Silva or Ramos

  30. CloudSky
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 28 days ago

    BREAKING NEWS:

    Corinthians right back #Fagner will start ahead of #Danilo vs Costa Rica tomorrow, as the latter has picked up an injury.

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      Good

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      No thanks

    3. Vlad Tepes
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 28 days ago

      It is funny to post stuff without source.

      1. CloudSky
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 28 days ago

        Globo, Marcus Alves, @brazilstat, City Watch. Everything is one click away.