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Sixty-three matches down, one to go. Over a month after the World Cup started, the tournament comes to a close on Sunday afternoon as France and Croatia meet at the Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow.

France will be making their third World Cup final appearance following their victory over Brazil in 1998 and loss to Italy in 2006. This is, however, unchartered territory for Croatia, who had not previously reached the final of a major international tournament since becoming an independent nation in 1991.

Luka Modric (£9.1m) has averaged only 2.5 points per game in his last four fixtures but remains the most popular Fantasy asset ahead of the final: more than 50% of McDonald’s FIFA managers own the Real Madrid midfielder.

All the money since the semi-finals has been for France players, however. Five of Didier Deschamps’ players now have ownership over 30%: Raphael Varane (£6.1m), Benjamin Pavard (£4.6m), N’Golo Kante (£6.0m), Kylian Mbappe (£9.2m) and Antoine Griezmann (£10.1m).

Pavard is the best value-for-money player left in the competition (scoring at a rate of 5.6 points per million spent) and France’s excellent defensive record (four clean sheets in six matches) has led to sizeable investment in Hugo Lloris (£5.9m) and Samuel Umtiti (£5.9m), too. Lucas Hernandez (£5.0m) is the only member of the regular French back four who has yet to score in this tournament.

The sustained interest in Kante continues to bemuse, with the Chelsea midfielder – who is admittedly available at a relatively cheap price – by far the most popular Fantasy option in the French midfield. Kante, without a goal or assist to his name this summer, hasn’t had one touch in the opposition penalty area or shot on target to date.

Aside from Modric (who had played more minutes than any other outfielder at this World Cup prior to the weekend’s matches), there isn’t a single Croatian player with an ownership over 30%. Following his goal-and-assist return in the semi-final win over England, Ivan Perisic (£8.5m) is now the most popular Croatia asset in attack.

Dejan Lovren (£5.0m) features in around a quarter of McDonald’s FIFA squads, meanwhile.

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  1. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Head count.

    Who is on BBC and who is on ITV?

    (im on the beeb because Hoddle is a kant)

    1. Horlicks esq.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      #toppostking

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      ITV mainly because the remote is on the other side of the room.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Cambodian Television Network.

      2. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Haha. Lazy and outspoken. We should be pals....

    3. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      BBC

      Can't be listening to Glenn Hoddle mispronouncing Mandookic any more 😆

      1. Sim Simma
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah me too.. That grated me on Wednesday

      2. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I wonder how many here speak Serbo-Croat!

    4. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      ITV because Hoddle is a more astute commentator

    5. Legomané
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      BBC obvs

    6. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Both pictures are crap

  2. Cookie Kid
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Griezy not +2 for winning pen?

    Or was it more 'given away' by Perisic?

    1. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      This is ridiculous, not even an assist for the first goal.

  3. JoeJitzu +42
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Disgraceful, football is dead.

    How the f*ckin hell can he avoid that...

    Red is shocking.

    Football is dead

    1. Horlicks esq.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Shhh now.

      Watch the game and not the comments.

      Perisic flaps his arm below his waist. He knows what hes doing.

      1. JoeJitzu +42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Me h*lebhe can react in 0.004secs... you’re an idiot!

        1. Horlicks esq.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          blah.

        2. Homer21
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Hmmmmmm......

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Unnatural position it’ll be

    3. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      The hand is going into the direction of the ball, tough decision but the right one I believe.

  4. St. Joseph
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Who's got the +2 penalty gained points?

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Noone. It was a handball

  5. Bun Rab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Greizzy (c) And Perisic doesn't lose points for a handball peno. Nice.

    1. Cookie Kid
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      How is that not -2 for Peri?

      1. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        ** Not applicable in case penalties are awarded due to handball.

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      My bad -1 for Perisic it appears.

      1. 420king
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        No -1 for handball penalties. It will be removed.

    3. The Mighty Hippo
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Perisic loses a point

  6. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Patch trying to do us all a favour by getting himself banned

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      🙂

    2. Patch
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Absolutely loving this game!

      True Justice!!!

      1. Dr Van Nostrand
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        So salty England weren't hard done by

        1. Patch
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Haha I know

          I just take everything to the extreme...but I am genuinely really enjoying this game

      2. JoeJitzu +42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Two wrongs....

  7. The Mighty Hippo
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    that was never a yellow

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      It was, I saw it

      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        are you sure you did?....we should stop for a VAR review.

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Yep, it was in the refs hand

  8. Black Rabbit
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Game getting hot..

  9. Eden Wizard
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Golden boot should be Griezman 5 Kane 6

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      But it was an own goal

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Shots are given if on target

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Own Goal trumps both.

      1. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Premier league that’s a goal for the attacker

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Last time I checked this wasn’t the premier league though

          1. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            So OPTA don’t work in the summer?

            1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Nah everyone needs a break

  10. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Best keeper in the world couldn’t move his arm that quick to save it

    Final ruining decision

    1. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Shocking stuff; ref is out of his depth!

    2. Bazzalona
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      It is truly sad and pathetic.

  11. RED PILL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Refs corrupt hardly given Croatia a decision. No way was that a penalty.
    He made that decision on slow motion, not on real time.

    1. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Yep, shocking decision

    2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Not corrupt, but France have had the rub of the green

  12. Tinydancer
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Wilshere is only 5.0!? I expected 5.5 or even 6 ! Could be one to watch

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Not worth 1.0m if he is injured and does not play.

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      You’ve obviously never watched him before 😀

      1. Tinydancer
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I watched every Arsenal game with the exception of 45mins v AC Millan and 1 pre season friendly that I couldn't get a stream for over a 3 year period 😛 including all other friendly's 🙂

    3. DantheManinaPan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Shut it

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        (wcFinal is on!)

  13. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Umtiti's head better have fallen off. Only excuse for lying down like a little bitch while his team are in trouble.

    1. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Are you stupid? His ACL could’ve gone in that one.

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        That’s a very drastic assumption. Kinda like someone taking a shot to the chest and saying “He could’ve broken a rib and punctured his lung!”

        1. Pariße
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          He fell on his stretched out leg, this is how bad injuries happen.

      2. Eden Wizard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        This - looked bad lateral load plus already strapped

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          This is why I'm saying his head better have fallen off, ie it needs to be serious. Unless you think I mean his head needs to literally fall off?

      3. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Has his ACL gone?

        1. Pariße
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Dude...does only ACL hurt?

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            No. Decapitation hurts too.

  14. GREEN IS GOOD
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Perisic's arm moved because that's what arms do. How was he supposed to get it out of the way at point blank range?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Was it kicked from a metre away?

      1. JoeJitzu +42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Flicked from less than a meter

      2. Urchin
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Great point but he saw it from less than a meter away. His arms were well by the side of his body. He was jumping. Hardly any intent.
        Tough luck for Perisic and Croatia i personally feel.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          He didn't want it to get past him.

          1. Urchin
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah he was trying to use his legs to do that... Ball dipped and hit his arm...

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              Great keeper impression.

      3. Homer21
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        This

      4. Sim Simma
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Like the new grav

      5. GREEN IS GOOD
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Shearer agrees with me and he's never wrong 🙂

    2. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Disgraceful decision never a penalty!

    3. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Agreed poor call. Still much prefer VAR what happened to the control room guys deciding? Has been quicker and more accurate

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Control room guys decided that the ref needed to take a closer look.

        1. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Passing the buck. Better to have a consensus than 1 man

    4. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Don't move your hand towards the ball. Easy. His hands were up, had they stayed there no pen would have been given.

      1. GREEN IS GOOD
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Except he's not a robot. Shearer, Ferdinand and Klinsman all said no penalty.

        If there's that much doubt then surely it's not "clear and obvious" enough to reverse the original decision.

  15. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    3min? it should be 5 or 6

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Those of you in the UK don't realise the difficulty of trying to watch the world cup final AND Dublin v Kerry at the same time.

      1. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Say noting i have it recording and will watch it after.

  16. Differential C (Mark)
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    The angle on his leg as it fell. . . Not looking good at all.

  17. Bazzalona
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    The ref wants shooting.

    1. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Stand in line

  18. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    How many chances will Croatia get from corners?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      5

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers.

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      enough

  19. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Robertson & 4.5m def
    Or
    TAA & PVA

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      R+4.5

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks. Do you think TAA will play most?

        1. Bun Rab
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          Not sure. Is he much better than Clyne? Rotation i fear.

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            I personally think so, would have thought it's his to lose after last season.
            Clyne didn't get a look in last season either - or was he still injured?

  20. F4L
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    people need to just understand this is where football is now, ball hits the hand its given a pen. Remember that Saudi Arabia one against Egypt

    1. Bazzalona
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Its a joke. The game is a joke.

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I wholeheartedly agree, I've been mocking football for a while now in terms of officials

      2. JoeJitzu +42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Hear hear!

        Meant to be this biggest spectacle and it’s turning out to be a joke.
        Don’t mind who wins going into it, wanted to see good fair football.
        Griezmann is a cheating d*ck (I’d that was Neymar, he’d been condemned). Red is a moron.
        Game ruined!

        1. Bazzalona
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          It all begins with players 'drawing' fouls. Refs should see through it. Not that he was even touched.

    2. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Aim for the arm will start happening!
      Common sense is dead.

      1. Bazzalona
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Its been dead for some time.

      2. F4L
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        aim for the arm has already started.

        Running into opposition defenders has been in the game for a few years already in order to get FKs and pens.

        Time wasting is rife.

        Diving isn't punished.

        And there is hardly anything being done about it

    3. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      VAR should prevent these mistakes happening.

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        problem are some of the rules are subjective to such an extent that there can be no consistency in decision making

        1. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          This is true.

  21. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Perisic really should have scored that

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Yep bottled it big time

  22. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    3 min of extra time given and 1min 42secs into it the ref blows it up?

    1. Homer21
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Nope, overtime clock was reset at 1:30

    2. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Then shouts Allez les Blues

  23. Dr Van Nostrand
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Geez tell us what you what think Shearer

    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Pundits on ITV are better

  24. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    France in a nutshell. Barely grind out wins against teams worse than them. Set pieces against teams on their level/better. And cheating everywhere. I cannot stand them.

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Is that France or England you are talking about? 😀

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        It’s England minus the cheating and minus actually winning off those set pieces against teams better than them

        1. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          They are far more talented than England. Have many world class players

    2. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      So rich coming from an Argentinian. Hand of God anyone.

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Tbf that was decades ago. The French are still like this today. I mean, they beat Australia with an own goal and a penalty. Jammy buggers.

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          And beating Ireland through a handball too a few years ago too. Much more of a trend here.

        2. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          And Argentinian and English players never dive or make appeals?

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      So Argentina was the outlier?

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Yes. That was one game they deserved to win

      2. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Without a doubt. And they conceded three goals in that game too

        1. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          But they scored 4. Mbappe made it look like men v boys

    4. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      In other words they routinely beat everyone.

    5. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Had wanted to like them... they make it so hard!
      Lost all respect for Griezmann, no need for what he did.

  25. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Alan Shearer would be a sh1t ref of course it was a pen. Hand moved.
    Ferdinand seems to be siding with him too..

    1. Eden Wizard
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      This

    2. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Slow motion decision

      1. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        This didn't help. Should only have reviewed in real time. That's all the defenders have.

    3. DantheManinaPan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Hand moved = pen. Sorry, didn't realised the rule had changed

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Is that the rule though? Hand moved = pen?

        1. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 5 months ago

          It's not the rule. Has to be deliberate is the rule.

          1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 5 months ago

            That’s the point I was making 🙂

            1. Paul Psychic Octopus
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 5 months ago

              I know. I was supporting you.

              1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 5 months ago

                Man, reading tone over the internet is hard work 🙂

      2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Lineker read the whole rule out btw

  26. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone have a replay of the last penalty decision?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers.

  27. Eden Wizard
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    Dive BAN

  28. Bazzalona
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    As usual Shearer is spot on.

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      I do not know what he has said but i think he is a crap pundit.

      1. Bazzalona
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        I think he's very good and I was never his biggest fan.

  29. The Mighty Hippo
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    The complete irony of Klinsmann being asked at half time "do you think it was a dive Jurgen"? Lol

    1. Euro Raiders
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Exactly what I was thinking! Klinsmann made the most famous dive of all to win Germany the WC!

      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        He should have answered "there is no way that was a dive.....where is the floppy fish"?

  30. Pariße
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 5 months ago

    The ball was heading into the direction of the ball and denied a possible opportunity on the second post. A very difficult decisiom but it was the right call.

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      *insert rolls eyes emoji

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Yes agree, so does RTE Irish TV - Didi Haman also agreed it was pen on the panel

    3. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 5 months ago

      Again, where it was heading and what it might have denied are irrelevant. Has to be deliberate move of hand to ball.

      1. Pariße
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 5 months ago

        Lol that is not the rules at all.