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17 July 2018 479 comments
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Xherdan Shaqiri has made a swift return to the Premier League just two months after Stoke City’s relegation from the top flight.

The Swiss international has signed for Liverpool on a five-year deal after the Reds triggered his release clause of £13m.

Shaqiri is Liverpool’s third signing of the summer, following the captures of midfielders Naby Keita and Fabinho.

The move looks like a savvy one on Jurgen Klopp’s part, with the German manager addressing the lack of squad depth that restricted his ability to rotate the likes of Mohamed Salah and Roberto Firmino towards the end of last season.

Predominantly a right-winger but more than able of being deployed in “the hole” behind a striker, Shaqiri gives Klopp the opportunity to rest one of last season’s front trio without disrupting the balance of his side. Danny Ings and Dominic Solanke were the sum total of Klopp’s alternatives in attack last season as Liverpool rotated in the league ahead of the UEFA Champions League final in May, but the Reds looked disjointed without the dovetailing Salah, Firmino and Sadio Mane in the side.

Salah, of course, played much of last season on the right of the front three in Klopp’s widely used 4-3-3 and Shaqiri would be a capable deputy were the Egyptian star to require a long-overdue rest.

Klopp could even field Shaqiri alongside all three of last season’s top scorers with a slight formation tweak – Mane and Salah could play either side of Shaqiri in a 4-2-3-1, with Firmino as the focal point of the attack. Klopp indeed rolled out this formation in the 4-0 win over Brighton and Hove Albion on the final day of the 2017/18 Premier League season.

Priced at £7.5m in Fantasy Premier League this season, Shaqiri is £2.0m cheaper than both Mane and Firmino and £5.5m less expensive than Salah. While the former Bayern Munich and Inter winger would, perhaps, expect to be a bit-part player at first this season, Fantasy managers would only be an injury or two away from having a cut-price route into the Liverpool front line.

Shaqiri’s arrival at Anfield does, of course, mean that we can be far less confident about pitch time for our premium Liverpool midfield and forward assets, particularly around Champions League fixtures and the busy festive period.

Klopp said of his latest acquisition:

He has speed and ability, has the right amount of arrogance on the football pitch, real bravery to want the ball and influence things. To play for us these are mandatory requirements.

We are the perfect move for him in this moment as well I think, because he needs to push himself and challenge himself and our environment encourages that. We will want him to express himself but also learn and improve the areas of his game where he can still make progression.

 The History

Born in Gjilan in present-day Kosovo, Shaqiri and his family emigrated to Switzerland while he was still an infant and it was with FC Basel that Shaqiri got his break in senior football.

Having scored eight goals in 19 appearances for FC Basel II in the Swiss fourth tier, Shaqiri made the step up to the first team in 2009 at the age of 17.

A total of 18 goals and 19 assists in 92 appearances with the Swiss club – who won the domestic league in each of Shaqiri’s three seasons as a first-team regular – attracted the attention of Bayern Munich, who snapped up the-then 20-year-old talent for a reported €11.6m.

Shaqiri’s move to the Bavarian giants wasn’t quite a roaring success, with exactly half of his 52 appearances for the German side coming as a substitute. After falling out of favour with Pep Guardiola at Munich, Shaqiri departed for Inter in January 2015 for an equally ill-fated four-month spell in Italy. After just one goal in 15 appearances (seven of them as a substitute) for I Nerazzurri, Shaqiri was procured by Mark Hughes’ Stoke City for £12m.

The Swiss midfielder’s most productive season for the Potters was to be the club’s relegation campaign of 2017/18. Having previously scored on seven occasions and registered a combined eight assists for Stoke in his first two seasons with the club, Shaqiri played a part in 17 (eight goals, nine assists) of City’s 35 league goals as they slipped out of the top tier for the first time in a decade.

Having made his debut for the Swiss national team in March 2010, Shaqiri has made 74 appearances for his adopted country and scored on 21 occasions. Liverpool’s new “number 23” has represented the Swiss at the 2014 and 2018 World Cups, as well as Euro 2016.

The Prospects

Still – somehow – only 26, Shaqiri has perhaps yet to peak. Having received top-level grounding with Bayern and Inter and Premier League experience with Stoke, Shaqiri shouldn’t need much time to bed in at Anfield next season.

Shaqiri has a combined five national titles and four domestic cups to his name from spells at Basel and Bayern and even has a Champions League winners’ medal, following the Bavarian club’s triumph in 2013 (Shaqiri played no part in the final against Borussia Dortmund, however). With 44 appearances in either the Champions League or Europa League to his name, Shaqiri has more European experience under his belt than the likes of Mane, Firmino and Keita.

Any in-depth statistical comparison with Salah would be an exercise in futility given that Liverpool’s Egyptian midfielder has just enjoyed a remarkable season and consideration ought to be given to the fact that Shaqiri plied his trade for a struggling club in 2017/18 when assessing his underlying attacking statistics.

For starters, the Potters had 250 fewer shots than Liverpool and less than half (51) the number of big chances.

Shaqiri had only one shot fewer than Mane last season, though played over 800 more minutes that Liverpool’s Senegalese midfielder.

As a result, Shaqiri’s minutes-per-chance mean of 44.2 minutes was a modest one and inferior to not only that of Mane and Salah but also his Stoke team-mates Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting, Mame Biram Diouf and Charlie Adam.

It is intriguing to note how many of Shaqiri’s shots come from distance. Only 36.2% of Shaqiri’s shots were struck from inside the box last season, while no Premier League player scored more goals (five) from outside the opposition area than the Swiss international.

As a result of his shoot-on-sight policy, only five of Shaqiri’s chances were deemed “big” ones; Salah had over eight times more, by way of comparison.

Shaqiri indeed had two fewer penalty box touches than Joe Allen last season and almost half as many as Choupo-Moting.

The Alpine Messi‘s creativity statistics are where he particularly stands out, however.

Shaqiri created more opportunities, supplied more big chances and delivered more crosses than any Liverpool player last season and made a key pass on average every 41 minutes – a better rate than any of the Reds’ much-heralded front three.

Shaqiri was Stoke’s chief set-piece taker last season, firing in 88 corners and 12 free-kick attempts, and his impressive creativity statistics can be partly attributed to his prominent role at dead-ball situations.

It remains to be seen whether the Swiss midfielder is afforded as many opportunities from set-play situations with Liverpool, but the fact that two of the Reds’ three main corner-kick takers last season were Philippe Coutinho (now departed) and James Milner (who will surely be even more peripheral next season) bodes well for Shaqiri’s chances.

Despite the raft of statistics we have presented so far, perhaps the most salient one is this: Shaqiri’s average of 4.3 points per match last season was only beaten by Riyad Mahrez among midfielders who didn’t play for the “big six” (discounting the now-reclassified Wilfried Zaha and Marko Arnautovic).

That Shaqiri managed that feat in a relegated side who scored less than half as many goals as Liverpool and that he contributed to almost 50% of the Potters’ 35 strikes illustrates just how potent a Fantasy asset he could be in a side as free-flowing as the Reds – if afforded game time.

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479 Comments Login to Post a Comment
  1. ajones1608
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Like it, although I would be worried about gametime initially for Pogba & Mendy I wanted too but not sure if he is 100% nailed and is expensive

  2. ajones1608
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    bottomed..

    Don't get the whole 10m is way too much to spend on keepers, so no one should have De Gea?

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I always look to get premium keeper post christmas, when it's clear what the best options are. All a bit of a lottery in terms of clean sheets at the start of the season, so best to take a punt on a couple of cheaper keepers to gain value. Just my 2 cents worth.

      1. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        10 million on 2 goalkeepers isn’t an issue when 6 is playing constantly, but if you are benching 6, 5.5, or half you budget, then it makes less sense value wise.

        Remember when De Gea played arsenal and still conceded?

        Comparatively it’s like having an expensive front line, and benching Aguero for a Tosun for fixtures sake.

    2. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Also you are fighting against a lot of people who with that 8.5 is too much on keepers.

    3. Bilbao Baggins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I know people say de gea is worth it because he matched the top defenders output last season. But another perspective is Fabianski at 4.5 mil only got 15 less points and de gea will do well to match the same output again in terms of clean sheets.

      Fabs and say foster
      or de gea and fodder.. to me first option is best to start with

      1. jackjones
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Fab could be good value if you played him every week, but most owners won’t. So they’ll miss out on the random 9 points away, or the 3 penalty saves. In which case DDG could be better value.

  3. anish10
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Take 10:

    Ederson - 4.0
    Tomkins - Bellerin - Alonso - Schelotto - Cedric
    Mahrez - Ramsey - Salah - Kenedy - Masuaku
    Aguero - Auba - Kamara

    1. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Not sure about Mas but but sure about any at that range. You may struggle with Him and Kamara.

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Try again 😆

    3. Chris_H
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Needs a better spread of funds really, do you really want to be playing three of Tomkins/Schelotto/Cedric/Kenedy/Kamara/Masuaku every week?

  4. Brosstan
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Too much template so I made a spicier draft

    David De Bay Leaf - Loris Paprikarius
    James Tacowski - Antonion Valencia - Phil Parsley - Danny Rosemary - Hector Bellpepperin
    Aaron Lemon - Coriander Herrera - Deli Allspice - Andros Townsend Island Dressing - Henrik Mkhitarragon
    Harry Kayenne - Dominic Masalanke - Pierre-Turmeric Aubameyang

    1. anish10
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Got too much time on your hands...

      1. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        True words 😆 Once I started I had to finish it.

      2. SW6
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        *thyme

    2. ajones1608
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I love it, all of it

    3. Adams6
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Nice

    4. DeathoftheParty
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Townsend island dressing is absolutely on point here

  5. mranonymous
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Bottomed.... Will Firmino be ready for GW1? Didn't play much for Brazil but obviously had to train etc. Unsure about these quarter finalists.....

    1. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      we'll surely know more in a few weeks. no one knows at the mo

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I would think so.

    3. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      He’ll be fine.

    4. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      He is Klopp's favourite, he'll play. Hell, Klopp even plays him when he's injured.

    5. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Would think so, a machine and didn’t play much World Cup.

  6. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Not seen anyone else on here with both Ryan and Bettinelli in their teams. To me it's the most obvious goal keeper rotation.

    1. Jarnathan
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I can't see the rotation ticker in the members section

    2. Adams6
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Rotating goalkeepers has always been an utter nightmare for me. Rotating can really backfire when cheap keepers get unexpected points from save points and stoic away performances that bring clean sheets. I can't face looking at 6/7 points on my benched keeper anymore when the one I played, correctly according to the fixture, picks up 1. It drives me nuts and I just can't do it again!!

      And breathe.

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        I agree but if it works as it's s'posed to it creates fantastic value.

      2. @FPL_Chess
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Agreed, also most goalkeepers last season got 6 points or more, more often away from home, than at home. So if you were typically rotating home and away you'd get less points most weeks. Shambolic strategy.

    3. Little fekirs
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      If Golovin was to sign with Chelsea what do you think he’d be priced at ?

      Could be damaging in that attacking mid role

      1. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Sarri doesn’t really play attacking mids, you’d probably be looking at the wingers and he centre halves.

        1. Little fekirs
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah I more meant the most attacking mid, Hamsik was damaging for Napoli playing the same role.

      2. Fassy
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        He would have the Hamsik role under Sarri. 7.5 I guess.

        1. Little fekirs
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah agreed, Willian is probably better value in that circumstance especially as Hazard is on his way out.

    4. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I think picking players from the top 6 teams is split into 2 parts:
      - The first team players who didn't go to the world cup
      - The players who may benefit from first team players getting extended leave

      The first team players who didn't go to the world cup
      Arsenal - Leno (5m), Ramsey (7.5m), Mkhitaryan (7m), Aubameyang (11m)
      Chelsea - Alonso (6.5m) / Emerson (5.5m)
      Liverpool - van Dijk (6m), Robertson (6m), Keita (7.5m)
      Manchester City - Sane (9.5m)
      Manchester United - Smalling (6m), Valencia (6.5m), Sanchez (10.5m)
      Spurs - Davies (6m), Aurier (6m)

      The players who may benefit from first team players getting extended leave
      Arsenal - Kolasinac (5m), Lacazette (9.5m)
      Chelsea - Fabregas (6.5m), Pedro (6.5m), Morata (9m)
      Liverpool - Clyne (5m), Matip (5m), Wijnaldum (5.5m), Milner (5.5m), Shaqiri (7.5m)
      Manchester City - Laporte (5.5m), Mahrez (9.5m)
      Manchester United - Bailly (5.5m), Mata (6.5m), Martial (7.5m)
      Spurs - Lamela (6.5m), Moura (7m), Llorente (6m)

      Feel free to add to these lists but this is what I have so far - I'm focussing on the top 6 as they presumably had the most players featuring in the world cup. The likes of Leicester etc may also fall into this way of selection.

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Have an upvote sir, nicely put.

        1. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          And by the way, Ramsey will outscore any of the Liverpool mids this season. Bookmark this comment 😉

          1. barracuda
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            IF he stays healthy..

          2. dbeck
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            High ppg last season, will he be nailed? I’ve had him in my drafts but doubting it now

          3. Zladan
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Salah says hello.

            1. Boris Bodega
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              It's all gonna catch up with Salah, this season's let down.

          4. JamTart
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Has there been strong indications he'll be a guaranteed starter and integral part to the attack under the new manager? Assuming you'll be more up to speed being a fan.

            I'm pretty much sold on having auba, maybe Laca to accommodate Kane when he hits form but not confident enough of a double up yet.

          5. asquishypotato
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            I mean, any gives you a good start. Can’t imagine Milner, Henderson or Grujic out scoring him.

      2. barracuda
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        I also think players who needed to gain fitness via training like Mendy will be great assets.

      3. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Chelsea and Arsenal will be interesting fixtures dependent.

      4. Brosstan
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Good post. The problem with the second bunch of players is how long will they benefit for? 2 games at most is my guess, which means they will have to be replaced fairly soon.

        1. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Agree, I would only punt on one of these.

        2. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Good picks for those who usually WC or during the first IB. If some of those play well enough, they'll stay in the team me thinks. Mahrez, Laporte, Bailly, Kolasinac etc.

          1. Brosstan
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Agree with Mahrez and Kola. Laporte and Bailly, not so sure.

        3. Lone Wolf FPL
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Good luck if they get bunch of points till than.
          There are FT and bench and there wont be 15 of them to manage. I have Mahrez and probably Lamela plus nailed ManU def(in preseason). Easy to replace them if needed.

      5. @FPL_Chess
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Quality post. Have another upvote.

      6. ajones1608
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        top 5 defenders worth having?

        1. kennethrhcp
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          value wise I think Coleman & PvA could be great picks.

          Dave Azpi is always gonna be a good pick.

        2. dbeck
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Pva
          Robertson
          Coleman
          Which ever Man Utd cb becomes nailed, Bailey perhaps
          Azpi

        3. @FPL_Chess
            7 years, 7 months ago

            A team (produced by @fplkernow) could have scored 2552 points and won @OfficialFPL 2017/18 season without using a single chip or making a single transfer. It had four top defenders in it. To see the graphic, check out fplkernow's twitter page or see it on my web site: fplchess.net

        4. asquishypotato
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          What is people’s issue with the title?

          Shaqiri ‘could’ be a budget way in...

          I’ve been banging on about it but I think there is a good potential for Klopp to play 4-2-2-2, like in the 4-1 West Ham win.

          With Keita arriving too, who has excelled in that formation, it almost makes sense to play that against easier teams, to get more attacking players, in. Then he can rest and switch back to 4-3-3.

          Just a thought. Pre season formations may tell more. Caveat is that 4-3-3 worked and if it ain’t broke...

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Agreed. Given that Switzerland got knocked out fairly early, there's a good chance he starts GW1 in the 4222 like you said. Even if Fekir does sign, he won't be starting GW1 I don't think.

            1. asquishypotato
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              No I imagine if he does he will have a short break, ironically for a team lacking in depth and needs more rest then most, we are probably in a better position then other rivals in terms of first team availability.

              1. Davido989
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Sign a good GK and we can potentially have an early lead if things click. We still need 3 signings though.

                1. FPL Joker
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 7 months ago

                  What 3 signings?

                  Gk? Allisson apparently could happen.
                  AMC? Fekir is likely to happen too.

                  Dunno where else needs strengthening. Central defense? VvD, Lovren, Gomez, Matip & Klavan is enough.

                  1. Davido989
                    • 15 Years
                    7 years, 7 months ago

                    GK, CB and AM. None have happened so can't count them atm.

                  2. asquishypotato
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    7 years, 7 months ago

                    Goalkeeper, another attacker and another centre half, I wouldn’t expect more then two of those, especially since we now have the best CB in the world.

        5. LangerznMash
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          1st RMT (captaincy headache)

          Pickford
          Alexander-Arnold Keane Cedric
          Mane Mkhitaryan Eriksen Sane
          Lacazette Morata Firminho

          Subs: Speroni, Malone, Daniels, Stephens.

          ^_________________^

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            From that lot I would punt on Lacazette. None are really stand out options imo.

          2. Adams6
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            I wouldn't fancy facing the panic on Friday afternoon 10th August when you suddenly can't face going without Salah and rip your team up.

        6. OldBenKenobi
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          So Kane says he will play against Newcastle!
          Hmmm time for a tinker I think.....

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Enjoy your 2 points my friend.

          2. kennethrhcp
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            oh hello drawing board... it's me again 🙂

            if he's gonna play I'll prob get him in aswell… gotta break the aug curse at some stage & shur he didn't do much in the latter stages so should be grand 😉 (joke!)

          3. asquishypotato
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            August, World Cup fatigue, other players missing, August, Spurs fixtures. Doesn’t point to much delight there.

          4. WVA
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Made this mistake last season!

          5. Lone Wolf FPL
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            You expected him to say "Im exhausetd and Ibcant play till gw3"?

        7. mranonymous
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Does anyone know if Doherty is nailed for Wolves?

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            At the moment, yes, and looks decent value. But Wolves fans want another RWB. Dunno if that will happen, just keep a close eye.

        8. ragsyboys
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Which game week do you think Kane will start ?

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            GW1. He plays for himself - he'll need every minute possible to get the golden boot. Pretty sure Salah, Aubameyang etc will be up there this season.

            1. ragsyboys
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Thank you berbinho

          2. mranonymous
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            according to Kane himself... GW1

        9. Bilbao Baggins
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Hey guys does anyone know if Sanchez is injured? Some one wrote on previous page about uncertainty of him starting the season.

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            No he isn't allowed to fly to America due to a visa issue.

          2. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            He has visa issues and is missing the start of pre-season because of some fraudulent behaviour back in Spain.

          3. Bilbao Baggins
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Thanks guys. Not sure that would affect him starting the season to be honest.

        10. Rains of Castamere
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Very first draft, haven't really even looked at defensive rotations yet.

          De Gea (4.0)
          Coleman, Douglas, Daniels, Cedric, Tomkins
          Salah, David Silva, Walcott, Jota, Chalobah
          Aguero, Firmino, Wood

          RMT?

          1. Dreaming of glory
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Prob drop Walcott

            1. Rains of Castamere
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              I think pre-season will dictate who that 6.5 - 7.5 midfielder becomes. Might be able to stretch to Martial / Barkley etc if they emerge as starters.

        11. @FPL_Chess
            7 years, 7 months ago

            According to a BBC today, Harry Maguire is linked with a move to: Tottenham, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, and Chelsea.

            Where's Arsenal in this list? Are we just not interested in English players?

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            1. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              As good as Maguire is and has been, he doesn't suit City's or Liverpool's style of defending. Leaving him in one on one situations with 30 yards of space behind him is asking for trouble.

              As for Arsenal, they don't sign good CB's.

              *waits for a Sokratis fan*

              1. Pieterke30
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Agreed

                Maguire would be perfect for the Mourinho Utd

              2. @FPL_Chess
                  7 years, 7 months ago

                  Ha ha. These guys weren't bad centre-backs:

                  Frank McLintock
                  Martin Keown
                  Steve Bould
                  Sol Campbell
                  Tony Adams

            2. JJeyy
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Mane, Sane or Eriksen?

              1. LanMi
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                If you haven't any Red in attack then Mane. If you have surely Eriksen. Sane is at rotation risk when WC semi-final participants come back.

              2. Dreaming of glory
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Mane if no pool. Erick otherwise

              3. Chris_H
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                All good shouts, Sane arguably least nailed long-term - I think Mane is a great shout as he slightly underperformed last year

            3. Dreaming of glory
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Ederson - speroni
              Coleman - cedric - ward - TAA(if fit for gw1) - 4m
              Salah - silva - ramesy - Hughes - 4.5
              Aguero - auba - austin

              1st bash at a team. Thoughts?

              1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Looks a bit top heavy but pretty decent 🙂

            4. LanMi
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Guys what's your thoughts on this?

              Begović-Guaita (maybe swapping him as Hennessey started the friendly where Hodgson chose the best 11 as he said before the game)

              van Aanholt-Ward-Coleman-Douglas-Zanka

              D.Silva-Eriksen-Deulofeu-Martial-Felipe Anderson

              Zaha-Bobby Firmino-AUBA

            5. Jordan_k
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              RMT - Appreciate feedback

              Ederson - 4.0m

              VVD - Bailey - Coleman - Cedric - Tomkins

              Mane - Mahrez - Sigurdsoon - Cairney - Kennedy

              Aubameyang - Aguero - C.Wood

            6. The Polymath
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Surely having a cheap second non-playing 4.0 Goalkeeper is a mistake. Shouldn't every sub be able to play in an emergency, E.g. Ederson and Fab.

              Also last season I spent money on premium defenders only for my ML rivals to make more points by buying cheap defenders who kept getting clean sheets. So I'm really not keen in wasting money in defence.

              Any thoughts?

              1. Davido989
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                I always have a 4m keeper - usually the back up to the 4.5m keeper I go for.

                But I'm on DDG this time round and if he misses a game then I'm willing to lose out on those GK points that week.

                1. WVA
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 7 months ago

                  This world cup malarkey is annoying me, don't want to miss out on points but it's possible DDG and Ederson miss the first game and i want a set and forget gk.

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 7 months ago

                    Meh. Keepers don't need training and fitness. They just turn up and stand in the right place.

                2. Jarnathan
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 7 months ago

                  Do you think he's worth the extra 0.5 over Ederson? Some may argue that it 'wastes' a City slot, but given that we don't even know whether half the team will start it seems a safer bet.

              2. Chris_H
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Last season isn't this season 🙂

                Use whatever strategy works for you, there isn't a right or wrong when it comes to defenders but there will be a few premium options which are worth it

              3. WVA
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                If you get defenders from Chelsea Man U City and Spurs they will score more points than cheap defenders, simple.

            7. joeydelucchi
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              thoughts please:

              De Gea
              robbo mendy coleman
              ramsey mahrez sane Lucas Moura
              Zaha Arnie auba

              Boruc
              delefeu
              Kiko femenia
              cedric

              1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                You have a good team, if you're happy with no Mo

            8. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Cheeky RMT?

              Fab Foster
              Robbo Coleman Tomkins/Cedric 4m
              Mo Mahrez Dilva Jota Stephens
              Auba Zaha Tosun

              Feels very balanced, only thing I'm wondering about is downgrading Zaha and Tosun to upgrade Stephens but I'm pretty happy with this for now.

              1. JJeyy
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                dSilva precarious

            9. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              https://twitter.com/fplkernow/status/996156937334153216

              4 at the back is the way to go

              1. Deulofail
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Meanwhile, in One Year Later Land...

              2. willl
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Been on 4 at the back for a few days now, think it is much more balanced.

                No Salah either.

              3. Eden Wizard
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                4-4-2 looks ugly.

                1. Davido989
                  • 15 Years
                  7 years, 7 months ago

                  So does Epic Fail's bird but we're not complaining.

              4. Zilla
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Yep been on it for a long time now.

                Lloris
                Smalling Mendy Robertson Douglas

                1. Zilla
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 7 months ago

                  Or could do Lloris/Mendy to Ederson/Davies switchero

              5. Jafoole_88
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                Hi,

                How much money do you reckon that needs to be spent on the back 4, to have an effective 442?

                6.0, 5.5, 4.5, 4.5 ?

            10. Jordan_k
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              RMT - Seems balanced but should Salah be included?

              Ederson - 4.0m

              VVD - Bailey - Coleman - Cedric - Tomkins

              Mane - Mahrez - Sigurdsson - Cairney - Kennedy

              Aubameyang - Aguero - C.Wood

            11. subhojit123
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              How does she look -
              Foster
              PVA Coleman ward
              Salah mikhi ramsey mili
              Aguero tosun firmino

              Fabianski Kiko cairney Bennett

              Want to get in sane. Any suggestions if anyone I should replace him with? Or this is good to go?

            12. Aurora Borealis?
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Hey guys, first RMT of the season. Any amateur decisions so far?

              Ederson (4.0m)
              TAA/Daniels/Cedric (Jagielka/Tomkins)
              Salah/Mahrez/Willian/Walcott/Milivojevic
              Aguero/Firmino (Quaner)

              Thanks!

            13. Kizza_10
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Ederson
              Shaw Bellerin Robertson Coleman
              Kenedy Salah Silva
              Aubameyang Zaha Aguero

              Subs: Boruc, Cedric, Masuaku, Gunnarsson

              Would you make any changes to this team ?

            14. Foozeball
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 7 months ago

              Sane or D.Silva? I will be looking to upgrade to KDB regardless, since he very rarely gets rotated

              1. Lone Wolf FPL
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 7 months ago

                One is young, fresh, talented and other is 78 years old. You choose.