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Sunday’s international fixtures get the once-over as we round up the goals, assists, injuries and talking points concerning the Fantasy assets on show.

Andrew Robertson completed 90 minutes again for Scotland in their defeat to Portugal, who had previously released Bernardo Silva and Rui Patricio back to their clubs – the Wolves goalkeeper was reportedly withdrawn as a precaution with a very minor physical issue and it would appear his chances of featuring in Gameweek 9 are unaffected.

Helder Costa opened his account for Portugal in that win at Hampden Park, but there was a night of frustration in front of goal for Aleksandar Mitrovic in Romania.

We’ll be back later today with a summary of Friday and Saturday’s matches.

Scotland 1-3 Portugal

  • Andrew Robertson (£6.3m) – 90 minutes
  • Stuart Armstrong (£5.2m) – 77 minutes
  • Kevin McDonald (£4.4m) – 13 minutes
  • Cedric Soares (£4.4m) – 90 minutes
  • Helder Costa (£4.9m) – 90 minutes
  • Ruben Neves (£5.1m) – 0 minutes

There were a few notable absentees as Portugal defeated Scotland 3-1 in an international friendly at Hampden Park on Sunday evening.

Rui Patricio (£4.6m) and Bernardo Silva (£7.6m), who both started in Portugal’s 3-2 win over Poland last Thursday, had been allowed to return to their clubs ahead of the match in Glasgow so played no part in their country’s victory.

There has been no official word on the reason for their early exit, though the journalist Alex Goncalves suggested Patricio had been released as a precaution due to a minor “physical issue”.

Scotland, meanwhile, were without Robert Snodgrass (£5.4m) and Scott McTominay (£4.3m), who had both been allowed to return to West Ham United and Manchester United respectively with fitness issues of their own.

The pair have ankle and knee injuries, though neither problem is thought to be serious.

In the match itself, Andrew Robertson played his second successive 90 minutes for his national team and was back at left-back in a 4-4-2 after Alex McLeish had shelved the 3-5-2 system that looked unconvincing against Israel on Thursday.

That Robertson has played 180 minutes in four days may be of concern to his owners in FPL, though with Scotland playing on Sunday evening the Liverpool left-back has six days to recover from his international exertions ahead of the trip to Huddersfield Town next Saturday.

No player on show at Hampden fired in more crosses than Robertson, though only one of those deliveries led to a chance for a team-mate.

Robertson was directly up against Helder Costa on Portugal’s right flank and the Wolves winger got the better of the Liverpool full-back to prod home a low cross from Kevin Rodrigues. That was Costa’s first goal of the season, with the wide-man yet to even register an assist for his club in the top flight.

Costa’s Wolves team-mate, Ruben Neves, watched the entire match from the bench.

Southampton’s Stuart Armstrong started the game in central midfield and was replaced by Fulham’s Kevin McDonald with less than quarter of an hour remaining. Armstrong was reported to have picked up a calf injury in the second half, prompting his withdrawal.

Romania 0-0 Serbia

  • Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.9m) – 90 minutes

It was a frustrating night for Aleksandar Mitrovic and Serbia, who failed to break down 10-man Romania in their UEFA Nations League encounter in Bucharest.

Mitrovic had five of Serbia’s 15 shots on goal and ought to have scored at least once, going within inches of breaking the deadlock in the first half and forcing goalkeeper Ciprian Tatarusanu into an excellent save from a header after the interval.

The Fulham striker, who scored from the spot in the win over Montenegro last week, was forced to watch on as Dusan Tadic wasted his country’s best opportunity when skying a penalty just before the break.

Mitrovic’s evening to forget was compounded late on when he collected a booking for a foul in the 79th minute.

Poland 0-1 Italy

  • Jan Bednarek (£3.9m) – 90 minutes
  • Lukasz Fabianski (£4.5m) – 0 minutes
  • Jorginho (£5.1m) – 90 minutes
  • Emerson Palmieri (£5.2m) – 0 minutes

Jorginho was in an uncharacteristically attacking mood as Italy saw off Poland with a late Cristiano Biraghi winner.

The Brazil-born Chelsea midfielder – who has only registered four shots on goal in eight league starts for the Blues – had gone closest to opening the deadlock before that stoppage-time strike, hitting the bar from distance in the first minute of the match and forcing Wojciech Szczesny into a smart stop later in the first half.

Jorginho was deployed in his usual deep-lying midfield role, dictating play in the metronomic manner we have become accustomed to in the Premier League. The former Napoli man picked up a caution for a foul just after 30 minutes.

Jan Bednarek played the full match in a Polish back four that was forced to soak up a lot of Italian pressure, while Lukasz Fabianski was an unused substitute.

Emerson Palmieri was one of four players in the Italy camp who failed to make the 23-man squad for the clash in Chorzow.

Russia 2-0 Turkey

  • Caglar Soyuncu (£5.0m) – 90 minutes
  • Cenk Tosun (£6.7m) – 90 minutes

There were 90 minutes apiece for Caglar Soyuncu and Cenk Tosun, who finished on the losing side in Sochi.

Tosun had two attempts saved in the second half, while Soyuncu was prominent at set-piece situations and had earlier had an effort deflected wide from a corner-kick situation.

Both players will perhaps be back among the substitutes for their respective clubs in Gameweek 9, though Soyuncu might be preferred to Jonny Evans (£4.9m) at centre-back for Leicester City with Wes Morgan (£4.5m) serving a two-match suspension.

Israel 2-0 Albania

  • Beram Kayal (£4.4m) – 90 minutes

There were 90 minutes for Brighton’s Israeli central midfielder, who came through their UEFA Nations League win over Albania unscathed – relief for Chris Hughton, who is sweating on the fitness of Davy Propper (£4.9m) and Dale Stephens (£4.4m) ahead of Gameweek 9.

If Kayal – who impressed in the Gameweek 8 match against West Ham – is to continue in the Brighton midfield, the Israel international could assume Stephens’ role for the Seagulls as an FPL bench fodder option over their forthcoming run of appealing fixtures.

The former Celtic man, who delivered an assist in the 1-0 win over the Hammers and another against Scotland last week, had two shots on goal in the victory over Albania last night.

Kenya 3-0 Ethiopia

  • Victor Wanyama (£4.9m) – 73 minutes

There was a further injury scare for Spurs yesterday, though not one that will have any direct consequence for the vast majority of us FPL managers.

A mere 2,500 Fantasy bosses own Victor Wanyama, who was substituted with a hamstring injury not long after scoring Kenya’s third goal from the penalty spot.

Kenya coach Sebastian Migne said of his captain’s injury:

We were leading and he had done everything to take the team to the Afcon finals so I didn’t want to take chances. It was the right thing to do.

We have a great medical team, they will assess him further but I am yet to get their report, I hope it’s nothing serious.

The Standard reported this morning, however, that Wanyama looks set to be ready to face West Ham on Saturday despite the issue.

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  1. FatmanAndRobin
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    All set for this week - suggest any changes?

    Patricio

    Alonso/Robbo/Bennett

    Hazard/Maddison/Siggy/Mane

    Vardy/Murray/Aguero (C)

    Bench: McCarthy/Rice/Wan-B/Hojbjerg

  2. Niho992
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    When we will know is Salah injury serious or not? Friday or before

    1. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Probably Friday if at all.

      We've been a lot more secretive about injuries recently - think Klopp's got rid of a few leaky folks so journalists rarely get updated outside of PCs / official press releases.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I think we should hear before then once he has a scan

    2. Waltomade
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      After the deadline 😛

  3. Deulofail
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Does anyone have any links/opinion on the balance between the extra midfield point for a goal and the extra baps for goals for forwards?

    My personal prejudice based on very, very little, is that the extra forward baps cover around 60-100% of the extra midfield goal points (aka "most, if not all"). It's only a small matter, but I hear people using it to justify transfers quite regularly. Perhaps we give too much weight to the midfield in 50/50 decisions for this reason.

    1. Son is Rising
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      If forwards benefited that much from BPS they'd be leading the BPS rankings. As it is they are pretty level with mids so I guess mids make up for the 6bps difference by getting more baps for tackles/passes/dribbles etc. Mids also get 1 point for clean sheets which helps.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Right, your point was negated by your point 😀

        I'm talking about goals: Mid points vs forward baps.

        Mids and forwards total baps don't have to be anything to prove anything

      2. ClassiX
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        To add to this - forwards tend to take more shots and therefore miss more often and incur more -1's. But overall, the way BPS works seems to even out across the position types. Mids seem to make more points over a season due to assists and clean sheets, IMO

        1. Deulofail
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Yes but how about the question in my OP? 😉

          1. ClassiX
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Umm - not sure what exactly the question is, then? (Might be having a "D'oh" moment...)

            1. Deulofail
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              To use Vobinho's examples below.

              Let's say Sterling and Aguero both score 10 goals in 10 games. Who gets the most points?

              Sterling gets 50 points for goals scored
              Aguero gets 40 points for goals scored

              How many bonus points did Sterling get?
              How many bonus points did Aguero get?

              Difficult question to answer without putting a fair bit of work into it, which is why I figured someone might have a link to a HT or article on the subject. My guess is that if Sterling gets 60 points in total, Aguero gets at least 55 points in total, perhaps even 60 as well.

              However, people often talk about how that extra goal point advantage for the midfield should be compared against no advantage for the forwards, and as such presume that Sterling will get 10 more points than Aguero for every 10 goals they both score, which isn't true. "Extra point for a goal" is a frequent reason for captaining a midfielder over a forward, for example, but perhaps we should ignore the extra point altogether?

    2. Vobinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      You're comparing an extra midfield point for a goal with baps for forwards that score goals.

      So the comparison is who would you choose out of say, Sterling or Aguero, if both scored a goal.

      Sterling would get more points for a goal and baps for goals too so imo I don't think you can ignore the baps for midfielders when comparing the two?

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not ignoring the midfield baps.

        "extra baps for goals for forwards"
        "extra forward baps"

    3. The Rumour Mill
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I think you're about right with your assessment. What I would say though is that the extra point is guarenteed for the midfielder when he scores, whereas the extra bps for a forward scoring may or may not add up to bonus points depending on what else has gone on in the game, how he has played, and how well other players have performed, etc.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        True, but what I would say is that the gets baps for the forward could amount to 3 bonus points compared to 0 bonus points for the midfielder 😀

        1. Deulofail
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          extra baps*

        2. Klein
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          0 is a bit harsh though. 3-2 maybe more true

          1. Deulofail
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Lol, my point is that thing may or may not happen each week, but what's interesting is what happens on an average week. I'm not an FPL god dictating that Sterling don't get bonus 😆

        3. The Rumour Mill
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Depends on the player, you have to assess it on a case by case basis. If Hazard is the midfielder, 3 baps. If its Salah, 0 baps. In the case of the forward, Firmino 3 baps, Zaha 0 baps, etc, etc.

          1. Deulofail
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Yes, but what does this say about the question of whether it covers midfield goal points? You seemed to suggest that you care whether something is 'guaranteed' or not.

    4. WesMantooth
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Its an interesting subject, but also one thats nearly impossible to answer.
      Lets take Firmino for example.
      He got 29 baps of 15 goals last season (striker): 1.93bp pr goal
      The season prior, he got 17 baps of 11 goals (mid): 1.55bp pr goal
      So, in his instance he got an increase of 0.38bp pr goal from the switch, which covers 38% of the added point.

      But this is just the case of Bobby and also partly the problem with the excersice. Theres to many variables to account for to make an exact judgement on how the added bps for goal scored actually effects the payout of received bonus points by mids and strikers. Player A might be a clinical finisher, playing for a team that rarely keeps a clean (Vardy), player B plays for a side that scores very few goals, but B scores a very high % of the goals (Wood), player C scores a fair amount of goals for a free scoring side but also contributes in other ways, he's playing for a side scoring goals galore, but the other goalscorers in the team are out of favour with the bps do to "negative involvements" (Firmino), player D scores a fair amount for a free scoring side, but is in and out of the XI and rarely plays the full 90 (Laca), player E is about as clinical as it gets and the bps-system loves his style of play, but he plays for a recordbreaking side that keeps a CS every other game, has goalscorers in every position, and usually every game theres a mid picking up two attacking returns (Aguero).

      This doesnt answer your original question, but it helps explain why I believe your question to be almost impossible to answer. As a tip, i'd say the "average forward" covers 40-50% of the added point the mids get. Its the added point for CS thats the real "killer", and why Suarez's season will allways remain more remarkable than Salah's in my view.

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks for the reply Wes. It's difficult, yeah, but simply going back through the records and counting how many fewer points a player would have got in each game that he scored if he hadn't scored that goal (or goals) for a reasonable pool of players would at least give an average for us to work with. We can apply some common sense when talking on tha player by player basis.

        E.g. if the average is approx 0.5 points extra per goal for forwards, then we can presume that Vardy has a negligible disadvantage against a midfielders when it comes to points from a goal scoring event, assuming we also believe (or have calculated) that Vardy performs above average in baps when he scores a goal. Therefore, in a 50/50 call for captaincy between Vardy and David Silva, one cannot justify Silva post-hoc by going, "ah well he gets and extra point for a goal so I'm sticking with it instead of scrutinising my decision" 😀

        Such a minor point, but the amount of time spent discussing captaincy options around here with potentially faulty rationale is worth investigating. Or would be.... for someone 😆

        1. WesMantooth
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Yup, doing that would give a general idea of what the "average striker" gets as an advantage in the bps. But is that really all that interesting? Your example makes me think otherwise. Its more interesting to look at it on a player by player basis.

          When Someone says "i rate their chances equal to scoring" so I'm going with Mo over Aguero because of the added point, it actually makes sense based on last season. Because Last season Mo's bonuspoint pr goal wasnt that far off Agueros.

          But if Someone was to say the same about bobby v Sterling, it suddenly wouldnt hold any merit, because Bob averaged almost one more bonuspoint pr goal than Sterling.

          I realise that this logic and these examples can be scrutinized, but this has allways been the way I've broached the subject when these sort of "dilemmas" occur.

          1. Deulofail
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah sure. The interesting thing is the extra point for a goal is less than 1pt. I just think we should bear that in mind. And further to that, it would be nice to have an idea of the extent to which is less than 1pt, by player, by team, by anything and everything 😀

            I was mostly going for a general average because it could be applied to any scenario without having to do the extra work to compile enough data on individuals, perhaps going back mulitiple seasons on a case by case basis, or finding that it's not applicable to a player's history due to sub appearances or other reasons etc etc. It would just be nice to know that the midfield advantage is approx 0.4-0.8 points per goal, so it can helo me make 50/50 decisions on the fly.

  4. FatmanAndRobin
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    **Bottomed - sorry for the repost

    All set for this week - suggest any changes?

    Patricio

    Alonso/Robbo/Bennett

    Hazard/Maddison/Siggy/Mane

    Vardy/Murray/Aguero (C)

    Bench: McCarthy/Rice/Wan-B/Hojbjerg

    1. Bialystrzelec
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I don't like your budget defenders that, but that's something you need to accept every now and then. Murray doesn't convince me as well. I'd rather have Arnautovic for £0.5 more.

      1. gaurava1216
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        siggy to rich and upgrade murray

  5. T0RR3S
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Rate my WC please.
    Fabianski - Hamer
    Alonso - TAA - Mendy - Doherty - AWB
    Hazard - Mane - Richarlison - Maddison - Hojbjerg
    Aguero - Arnautovic - Mitrovic

    1. Bialystrzelec
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Very simillar to mine and majority of players that differ us are players I want to get soon. 8/10

    2. yakirh
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      This is pretty much the template WC
      So I guess its good

      1. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        TAA isn't nailed and AWB fixtures take a nosedive from next week but hey.... Looks good.

  6. Eytexi
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    If Salah is out for Huddersfield only, keep or sell?

    1. Bavarian
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I'm keeping

    2. jtreble
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      LIV’s GW9-19 run is currently the best in the league.

  7. Monkey Hanger
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 2 months ago

    Klopp on Friday's presser, 'Mo got a slight strain on international duty, we will keep assessing up to kick off'. 🙂

    1. jtreble
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Can you post a link for this if you have one please.

      1. MTPockets
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Assume it's meant as a hypothetical friday klopp comment.

        • I Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          It's from the future. No link available.

      2. Hart-ake
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        UGH.

      3. The Special Wan
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        The most anticipated press conference of the season.

      4. Pieterke30
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Of course thats gonna be like this.

        What would you make of it? That he starts or not?

    2. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Huddersfield away is the perfect time to rest Salah if he is carrying a bit of a knock. Why buy the likes of shaqiri if he's not gonna play him in a game like this. No Salah would be my bet.

      1. Pieterke30
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        You dont have Salah, do you?

        1. DA Minnion (Former great)
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I don't but I've two frees and can get him in easily enough. I'm not judging it on whether I have him or not. Just seems logical.

      2. jtreble
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        That bet is to risky for cowards like me.

        1. I Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Why though? Of course he could explode out of nowhere, especially in these fixtures, but he doesn't have the form to make me that scared of not owning him. If he's 100% fit I may get him but paying 12.8m for an out of form injury doubt doesn't seem right.

          1. jtreble
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            “ ... of course he could explode out of nowhere, especially in these fixtures ...”. You nailed it - that’s why.

      3. AandyzZ
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Agreed

      4. child of God
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Good risk when you have nothing left to play for, not when you have a lead to protect

      5. Do I Not Like Orange
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Why not rest for a pushover European side at home in midweek instead?

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          This

        2. Klein
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Becoz its still a must win or get knocked out game? League is safer.

      6. Pep Pig
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        If Salah is not ruled out, I believe he plays.
        Klopp would love Salah to explode and get his season back in top gear.
        I won't be getting shut that's for sure. He's my captain until Klopp tells us he definitely isn't playing

    3. Winners900
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      If all fit who to bench?

      A) Alexander Trent (Huddersfield A)
      B) Maddison (Arsenal A)
      C) Fraser (Southampton H)

      B right?

      Cheers

      1. AandyzZ
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        C

      2. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        yeah B for me

        1. subhojit123
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          B

      3. Bialystrzelec
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        B, by far

      4. Bavarian
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        B of course

    4. barracuda
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Mitro had 5 shots for Romania... Surely not.

      1. Monkey Hanger
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        And Jimenez would of scored three of them. 🙂

      2. Pras (FPL)
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        he played for both teams..he's that good!

    5. L'Aeroplanino
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      How much would Messi be in FPL if he's in Man City? 15m?

      1. Vobinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        At least. If he were in your squad you'd need copious amounts of bench fodder...

      2. child of God
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        15m sounds just about right

      3. Goat
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        16/17 million a few years back

      4. RedLightning
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        How many FPL points would he get in a Premier League season?
        300?
        400?
        Would he replace Aguero?
        Could they both play together?
        Would he steal all Aguero's points if he did?

      5. Rotation risk - avoid.

    6. ShaunGoater123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      How doe this wildcard look? Appreciate there isn't a Kun or Kane in there but have a heavy midfield and defence, alongside value forwards.

      Alisson / Hamer

      Mendy / TAA / Alonso / Doherty / AWB

      Hazard / Mane / Sterling / Richarlison / Stephens

      Vardy / Arnie / Murray

      1. Kragbaek
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Hamer and Stephens — surely you are kidding

        Also, TAA on a WC? There are, possibly, better options

        The rest I like, though!

        1. ShaunGoater123
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          why would I be kidding!? Hamer would hopefully never be needed, and Stephens would just be bench fodder and hopefully rarely needed.

          Would def prefer Robertson over TAA but can't afford that. Could potentially look at downgrading him to maybe like Balbuena or something but I quite like the thought of the Liverpool double up!

    7. subhojit123
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Hey guys need a bit of help here. On a wildcard. Can you please suggest which one of the below I should go for -

      1. Alonso, Robertson mane, Aguero, Madison. With 1.4 in bank to upgrade Wilson to Arnautovic in couple of weeks.

      2. TAA, Salah, Vardy, Sterling, Bednarek. With no cash in bank.

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        1 looks no brainer for some reason

        1. subhojit123
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I have 1 at the moment. Any other changes you would do to that Bunch or just leave it?

          1. Holmes
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Mane to Sterling possible?

    8. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      I keep reading about team structure and having players at every price point. This is all very well, but what does this mean in reality? I would like to see a detailed breakdown of the price-points in each poistion and which players fit into that price-point for this season.

      Sometimes the price points seem to cover quite a wide range e.g. 4.5 to 6.5. Is there even agreement on which price-points you need to have. Has a survey been carried out of the top players asking this speicific question and coming to a consensus.

      Just throwing it out there for discussion.

      1. I Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        4.5 and 6.5 are two completely different price points.

      2. Vobinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not a fan of this strategy as it limits the pool of players you're able to choose from at any given time, but the idea is to set price points around the value where the most popular assets can be interchanged.

        Probably split between Premium, upper priced, mid price, low price and bench fodder - that means any player in those categories can be simply changed with each other.

      3. Monkey Hanger
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Seems to me to be something Jonty came up with in the MTM interviews to try to suggest some method in the FPL madness.

        1. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          The idea's been around for years - some think it's a good thing, others don't.

    9. Waltomade
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      .Mane(C).

      1. child of God
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Not for me

      2. JamieC180
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Bold shout, could pay off

      3. yakirh
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I think he's the 2nd/3rd best choice after Kun (and maybe Laca)

      4. yakirh
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I'm planning to captain him next GW

    10. child of God
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Mitro or arnie for free

      1. subhojit123
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Arnie

      2. I Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Mitro for his next 3 fixtures. Can switch to Arnie after that.

        1. Goat
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          This

    11. DMil
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Worth a wildcard...?
      Patricio/Fab
      Robbo, Alonso, Trippier, AWB, Peltier
      Salah, Bilva, Wally, Fraser, Costa
      Kane, Zaha, Mitro

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        i think -4 can sort the mess for now, next week would be better for your team imo...

        1. DMil
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah fixture wise the team is quite well setup for this week. The Salah injury is obviously the main driver.
          Holmes you're probably right to wait until next week where my team has pretty bad fixtures.
          Cheers

      2. I Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I wildcarded a similar team. It's not bad but there's enough there that you can improve on for it to be worth it imo. I don't agree with the strategy of waiting until your team is an absolute mess to play your WC when you can gain a significant advantage by playing it earlier.

    12. Bonus magnet
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      to shaqiri or not to shaqiri?

      unconfirmed rumours say Salah misses next 2 EPL games

      1. Pieterke30
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Unconfirmed rumours will get you banned, and rightly so

      2. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        rumours plus unconfirmed, hmmm...

      3. Don Kloppeone
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Are you trying to get yourself kicked off here?

        Just keep these sorts of statements out of here and wait for Klopp presser or LFC tweets re. injury status.

        Personally think Shaqiri will disappoint even if he does start in Salah's place (and I'm a 'Pool fan) so I wouldn't be considering him either way

        1. Bonus magnet
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          if i send the so-called link will i be kept in?

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            At least a source can then be challenged or someone make a decision whether they think is reliable

            Don't worry - I'm sure there won't be any banning!

            1. Bonus magnet
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              no it was just my tongue in cheek about being kept in.
              but i see how Salah is a sensitive subject here given his next 2 very tasty fixtures

      4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Can we stop mentioning bans where they are not warranted please.

        People are big enough & bright enough to read plain English & nothing in this comment is false or misleading.

        Anyone who makes a decision based on this comment deserves everything they get.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          That's from Saturday and before any scan

      5. Vobinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        The poster doesn't say Salah is out. Unconfirmed rumours should be taken as what they are - nobody here should be acting on this post as a definitive reason to ship Salah out so I don't see the problem.

    13. Maddi Son
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Mendy or Robertson over the next two weeks? Both not an option yet.

      1. Lav
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Probably Robbo

      2. I Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Robertson

    14. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Want a 4.5 set and forget keeper. I own Doherty.

      A) Patricio
      B) Fabianski
      C) Ryan
      D) McCarthy

      1. I Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I'm doubling up with Patricio. Wolves defence much better than any of those other teams and he should pick up save points in their tough fixtures.

        1. Shatner's Bassoon
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah I'm thinking I could even bench Doherty for the toughies & just keep Patricio there, then double-up when they play the bottom 12 or so.

          1. I Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            That's what I'm planning to do.

        2. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          He is 4.6 though, but yeah good plan

      2. Lav
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Probably still A. B & C are shouts though, especially C with Brightons upcoming fixtures.

      3. yakirh
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        A very popular choice
        So I went with B 😛

    15. Lav
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      What would you do here? Got 2 FTs and 0.4m ITB.

      Patricio
      Alonso Robbo Mendy
      Salah* Haz Rich Fraser*
      Kun Wilson Ings

      Hennessey AWB Billing Holebas*

      1. I Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        If Salah and Fraser are fit you can probably ditch Holebas or Hennessey.

    16. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Wow. Southampton has had more goal attempts than Liverpool this season.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        They have also had a pretty kind fixture list

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Next two still pretty good from an attacking perspective - bou, NEW

      2. Vobinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Mark Hughes stated he was intending to adopt a very attacking approach. That's why Ings has been mentioned as an asset. As a team they are shocking and shipping goals - that's why none of their defence has been mentioned.

      3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I still think Ings will make a mockery of 5.5 price tag. If he had just taken that big chance v Chelsea... there’ll be a lot more where that came from though..

        The big factor is IF he stays fit.

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Have him and if I keep I will play him ahead of Maddison next weekend

        2. alexmj
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I think Ings and Jiminez will score pretty similar, probably a case of play the fixtures.

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Agreed, personally I’m planning to stick with Ings until the inevitable injury, then swap to Jiminez if all else equal around that time.

            Penalties are another big plus for Ings

      4. Goat
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Very unlucky not to score 1 or 2 against chelsea

    17. Pieterke30
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Anybody here in top 20k who wont have Aguero at the weekend?

      I dont, and it is starting to scare me.

      1. Zilla
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Got Sterling "instead" of him. Fed up with the usual 60 mins, I still think he's a good option though.

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          I think Aguero is still likely to get subbed off early to keep him fit as long as possible - as Guardiola seems to trust Jesus much less than last season - but problem with Sterling is I really think he could be benched ANYtime.

          At least I think Aguero IS nailed on for 60 minutes.

          1. Zilla
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            That's a fair point. My reasoning was I have a good playing bench that will come on when Sterling gets odd benching out of nowhere, it's usually 0 or 90 for him so I will take my chances. Also that Pep using Jesus is inevitable, I extremely doubt that he won't use him this season and it's just a matter of time.

            1. Pieterke30
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              Sterling can get subbed in for 15 to 30 mins anytime too imho. I think I would never feel confident captaining him out of that 1 point show fear

      2. Bury94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah I'd be pretty worried if I didn't have him, 50% ownership at home to Burnley. Probably gonna captain him if Salah is out

      3. Rossaldinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Agree with Zilla. I've had Sterling for a few weeks now and not concerned about Aguero.

      4. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I'm kinda glad I didn't get rid of him for Laca last week (even though that would have worked for that GW), his EO is going to be huge - but tbf he's not been exploding recently so you might just be okay

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          ‘Might just’ sounds horrifying in this context.

          Got rid of him for Vardy before GW8. Was fed up with his 60 min shows and wanted Vardy long term

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            ha I'd like to be more specific but who knows 🙂 It certainly is risky not owning a player with such a high EO but it can work out very well if he doesn't perform. I tend to prefer the lower variance option, so at least owning him this week is pretty important imo - you might get lucky though 😉

      5. AuFeld
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Not worried. Sterling (c) and Hazard (vc).

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Would you be worried with no Sterling AND no Aguero though?

          1. AuFeld
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            Yes. Both players are top producers in the game. You're in a tight spot.

            1. Pieterke30
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 2 months ago

              Sometimes it is the best place to be 🙂

              Will have one of them if Salah is out for Hud. Otherwise I probably wont.

      6. Vobinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        City share the points usually, so I don't see a big points variance between owning Aguero or not - and that's considering he plays 90. Jesus will always get some minutes every week..

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Except when Aguero scores 20 points

          1. Vobinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 2 months ago

            It's happened once in 8 gameweeks, so I'm not holding onto that as a trend. It could happen this week or it might not happen again until GW27? But in the majority of games the points do get shared.

      7. Pieterke30
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks all for the replies

        Got scared not owning Kane last week and managed to resist the urge to get him in - paid off as I captained Hazard instead

        Maybe it’s a lesson and I shouldnt get Kun either. Or maybe I just got lucky last time and wont this time.

      8. yakirh
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Do you have an easy route to get him? or only for a hit?
        If its for a hit, it could also be worth it, tactically its not a bad idea.

    18. JamieC180
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Hi guys. I'm a bit at a loss as to what to do this week transfer-wise.

      Fab/Fos
      Robertson, Alonso, Trippier (AWB, Peltier)
      Hazard, Pedro, Salah, Fraser, Richarlison
      Aguero, Mitrovic (Kamara)

      I've got 2 FT's and 0.1 in the bank.
      Any thoughts would be hugely appreciated.

      1. SackWenger
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        If Salah is out or you're looking to shift, perhaps bring in Mane and use the funds to turn Peltier into Mendy.

        1. SackWenger
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Alternatively if you keep Salah, maybe look at selling both Pedro and Kamara. Jiminez if you are looking at keeping a relatively cheap forward. Alternatively go cheap midfielder and see what it leaves you for a forward.

        2. JamieC180
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Was thinking that Trippier to Mendy might be a decent move, what with fixtures and rotation...

      2. Bonus magnet
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        pedro -> Pereyra/Wally?/Lamela

        watford`s 3 of next 4 fixtures "good"

    19. Lemongrab
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Patricio
      Robbo Alonso Bennett
      Fraser* Salah* Hazard Richalison
      Ings Kun Nitro

      Hamer AWB Pereria Billing

      Would you do AWB to Mendy for a -4 this week? Can save it for next week but don't fancy AWB (eve) or Pereria (ars) to bring me much off the bench if Salah and or Fraser miss out. Obviously different if they're both passed fit but I could bench Bennet to play Mendy. Would like to get ahead of the curve and think he could score big Vs Burnley. Any thoughts appreciated.

      1. Lemongrab
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Nitro is Mitro 😛

      2. Bury94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Nah not for a -4

    20. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Anyone else got a frontline of Aguero - Lacazette - Mitrovic wondering how to fit Arnie in, and when?

      [*Cue 2 replies, both one word*]

      1. Lemongrab
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Give Mitro the next 3 games then a straight swap for Arnie

        1. Shatner's Bassoon
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Not a bad shout - would mean having Arnie vs MCI when Mitro plays SOU though...

          Guess that's just one of those things in FPL you have to accept with a long term strategy.

      2. Zilla
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Well you know the answer

      3. I Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Laca -> Arnie in GW11? Might be difficult to go ahead with that if Laca keeps his form up but fixtures aren't great after the next two.

        1. Shatner's Bassoon
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah don't mind that in theory actually. Depends how Liverpool's defence looks as well as Laca's form / fitness (think he's had a few issues down the years).

          It's the kind of thing where if I don't sell prior to that Liverpool game, I might keep hold of him for quite a while, pending injury etc.

    21. PepSala
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Now that we know Patricio will be back for Huddersfield...

      Mccarthy to Patricio for -4 worth it?

      Mccarthy is still flagged and Patricio will continue to rise. Wolves have better fixtures in the next 3.

      1. Pieterke30
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Absolutely NOT - I dont want to buy Patricio at 4.7 so please dont do it.

      2. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        But 25 November before Wolves play Huddersfield?

      3. Do I Not Like Orange
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Huddersfield?? Do you mean Watford?

    22. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Surely, if fit, this is the type of game Klopp will want Salah playing to try and get his ‘Mo’jo back.

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        It's a real tough one to second guess. Klopp is a caring manager and wants the best of the team and performance as a whole so you could believe both that he rests him (to avoid further injury for 'more important' games) or plays him (to boost his and the team's morale and get him on top form again)

        1. Pieterke30
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 2 months ago

          Spot on. It’s a guessing game. No one knows what Klopp will do.

      2. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        😀 the complete opposite to what I've seen many say on here...the truth is that either could easily be the case. If I was Klopp, assuming Salah is genuinely fit, I'd want him to play these next two and bang a couple in, I'd probably put him on pens too. If he does have an issue, which I actually kinda doubt, then it is most likely just psychological and rotating him would probably hinder rather than help him.

      3. Shatner's Bassoon
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Usually would agree, but we also have Red Star Belgrade on Wednesday and Cardiff next Saturday, both at Anfield - so there are two more opportunities within the week where he could do this if he felt the need to before a full week off prior to playing Arsenal away.

        If there's indication that Mo could do with another few days to recuperate, there's no need to take a risk with such a long season ahead, as well as having options like Shaqiri // Sturridge to come in.

    23. PepSala
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Mccarthy to Patricio for a hit?

      1. Shatner's Bassoon
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        Nah don't take a hit for a goalie. Can wait a week.

      2. yakirh
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 2 months ago

        I'm probably taking a hit for Doherty, but I don't think a goalkeeper is worth it, unless you don't have another keeper which in this case its worth it.

    24. Weasel51
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 2 months ago

      Hit the WC button or do a simple Kane > Kun?

      Hennessey
      Alonso Robertson Trippier
      Hazard Sterling Bilva Fraser
      Kane Arnie Wilson

      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      Dubravka
      Alonso Mendy Robertson Doherty
      Sterling Hazard Richarlison Maddison
      Kun Lacazette