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23 January 2019 610 comments
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New manager Jan Siewert could prove the ideal candidate to get the Huddersfield Town playing more attacking football.

He arrives in England with a history of intense offensive play in German and will be tasked with transforming Huddersfield Town’s fortunes.

They sit bottom of the Premier League table with, their 11 points 10 away from safety.

If Siewert achieves his mission then we could see some of the Terriers’ cheaper options present themselves as viable budget enablers between now and the end of the season, but there is certainly a long way to go.

We’ve read up on the former Borussia Dortmund coach to see what impact he could have at the John Smith’s Stadium.

What is his career history?

It must be said that Siewert has not had much experience of managing first teams at a high level, but is well-respected in Germany for the work he achieved at youth level.

He retired from playing professional football in his country’s lower leagues in 2009, landing his first coaching role in 2013. That was with the German Football Association where he was assistant manager to Christian Wuck with the Under 18s, before doing some work with the Under 17s.

After two years Siewert landed his first managerial job with Rot-Weiss Essen in the fourth tier, before becoming the assistant to Gertjan Verbeek at Vfl Bochum in the Bundesliga in 2016. After working with their Under-19s, he was brought in to manage Borussia Dortmund II, who operate in the fourth tier.

Arriving at Huddersfield this week, Siewert is now the Premier League’s youngest manager, aged just 36. While it may appear like a left-field appointment, with some criticism of the decision to avoid more tried and tested English candidates, the German has been on the club’s radar for some time.

He explained in his first press conference as Huddersfield boss that contact had been made by the Terriers two years ago when he was working at Bochum. Siewert, then 34, was lined-up as a potential replacement for predecessor David Wagner if he was offered a position at a bigger club that he couldn’t refuse. That line of communication has remained intact ever since, making his appointment relatively seamless both for the club and Siewert himself.

“We stayed in touch since I worked at Bochum. I did my work there and, until my contract was up with the club, I did my work there full time. We were in touch and I followed what was happening here in Huddersfield. It was really fascinating for me. This is a special club and that is the reason I decided to sign for Huddersfield Town.” – Jan Siewert

What is the view from Germany?

Just as Wagner was when he joined Huddersfield in 2015, Siewert comes to England as a relative unknown. Thankfully, Huddersfield’s local newspaper the Examiner spoke to Sascha Klaverkamp, a journalist at Dortmund newspaper Ruhr Nachrichten to report how he is viewed in his own country.

“Jan Siewert is a young coach, he has worked in Dortmund for one-and-a-half years now with the second team. His style is an attacking style of football. It is not the style of Jurgen Klopp, who also came from Dortmund and played an attacking style here before doing the same in Liverpool. Siewert is a coach who likes to form young players, develop talent and work with young players. Before he moved to Dortmund, he worked in Bochum, which is a city 20 or 30 kilometres away, where he worked with a young squad. Before that, he worked for the German Football Association also with young players, so he is the man who develops and improves young players.” – Sascha Klaverkamp

What is his style of play?

Siewert has been a proponent of a fluid 4-3-3 formation, with a focus on attack and the use of exciting wingers.

That could make for a refreshing change from the 3-5-2 and 3-5-1-1 systems played under Wagner this season before recent experiments with 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-2-1.

Whether Siewert is able to use his preferred formation remains to be seen, with him leaving his options open in his first press conference. While stressing the importance of his ideas, he also admitted he needs time to assess the squad before he can confirm his favoured tactics will work with the group.

“We are in a certain situation at the moment and the team is in a certain situation at the moment, so first of all, I have to understand the players. Then we can do everything, but the most important thing is that my style is my style. We can talk flowery about everything, but the most important thing is to work it out with the players. They are important. Then we will see and the people will see this is our football.” – Jan Siewert

With his success in working at youth level, we could also see some of the younger players in Huddersfield’s squad given a chance to play.

What effect could Siewert have on FPL?

Front-three

If Siewert does play with a front three, it could see Steve Mounié (£5.8m) or Laurent Depoitre (£5.1m) given much more support than they have had so far in 2018/19.

The pair has just one goal between them in the first 23 Gameweeks, while Huddersfield’s top scorer in the Premier League is centre-back Matthias ‘Zanka’ Jorgensen (£4.4m) on three.

However, whether Siewert has the right personnel to play with attacking wingers effectively remains to be seen. Only Everton (523) have attempted more crosses than Huddersfield (510) so far this season, but the Terriers rank 10th for their completion rate (23.7%). Furthermore, only four teams have recorded fewer key passes than the West Yorkshire side in 2018/19 (183).

Wagner largely preferred to allow wing-backs such as Chris Löwe (£4.4m), Erik Durm (£4.4m), Florent Hadergjonaj (£4.4m) to provide the width, his options further up the pitch a little uninspiring.

Adama Diakhaby (£4.5m) and Isaac Mbenza (£5.9m) are both capable of playing on either flank but neither has registered more than 560 minutes this season. The former could also play up front, as he did against Manchester City.

The latter and Elias Kachunga (£4.8m) have both been involved in the last few Gameweeks. Mbenza has started two of the last three in either wide or central positions, while Kachunga has featured from the beginning in every league match since Gameweek 21.

Alex Pritchard (£4.8m) has predominantly been used as a central player for Huddersfield but could be used either wide left or right. That might be the only way he could fit into Siewert’s 4-3-3 if he chooses to go with that formation, as he is more of an attacking midfield than one who could sit in a midfield trio.

Jason Puncheon (£4.2m) looks likely to remain in the central midfield trio, having played there since arriving on loan from Crystal Palace. He could theoretically be used as one of the wide players in the 4-3-3 but at the age of 32, he may not be able to offer the same level of pace as he used to.

Abdelhamid Sabiri (£4.3m) could also be an option on the left but has been missing with a shoulder injury since early December. He might be back in the fold in early February though.

Meanwhile, Rajiv van La Parra (Middlesbrough), Collin Quaner (Ipswich), and Ramadan Sobhi (Al Ahly) have all gone out on loan as they were considered surplus to requirements.

Crucially, those nine candidates for a place on the flanks of a Siewert front-three combine for a total of just one assist this season, showing that there is certainly plenty of hard work to be done.

Alternatively, wing-backs Löwe, Hadergjonaj and Durm are theoretically capable of playing further up the pitch, and their experience of providing width could see Siewert take the bold decision of deploying one of them on the flanks of attacking midfield. Given their prices, that would certainly be worthy of note for Fantasy managers. Outside of Mounié (four), Löwe is Huddersfield’s top assister this season with two.

Central midfield

If Siewert does implement his favoured 4-3-3 system at Huddersfield, it will be interesting to see who is handed a place in central midfield.

As already explained, Puncheon is sure to be a candidate having started his first two league matches in Yorkshire since arriving from Palace.

However, Phillip Billing (£4.5m), out through injury against Manchester City, and Jonathan Hogg (£4.4m) have largely been mainstays this season and one of them might have to miss out in order to accommodate Aaron Mooy (£5.1m) when he returns.

The Australian has stepped up his recovery from a knee injury in recent days, taking part in a group training session on the John Smith’s Stadium pitch after the defeat to Manchester City on Sunday. While Pritchard is not particularly suited to a traditional central midfield role, preferring instead to play further forward, Mooy’s contributions both offensively and defensively make him an ideal candidate to do well in a 4-3-3 system.

Juninho Bacuna (£4.2m) may also be in the equation having started against the defending champions, although he has not had much game-time this season, while the industrious Danny Williams (£4.5m) is hopeful of a return before the end of the season.

Defence

Wagner’s recent switch to a back-four may make a transition to a 4-3-3 system fairly easy for the defenders currently at Huddersfield.

As the club captain Christopher Schindler (£4.3m) should remain the first name on the team-sheet, although who is paired with could be up for debate.

Zanka has largely played alongside him this season, but he was named on the bench by Mark Hudson against Manchester City, with Terence Kongolo (£4.3m) preferred instead.

Löwe and Tommy Smith (£4.4m) were named as the full-backs, although there is plenty of competition here too with Durm and Hadergjonaj also available.

Conclusion

As when any new manager joins a Premier League, we would advise waiting before seriously considering any of their assets.

Given the form Huddersfield have been in recently, picking up just one point from their last 10 Premier League matches, that rings especially true.

Siewert clearly has plenty of work to do, with some even suggesting he has been brought in to help prepare for next season where they will be rebuilding from the Championship.

It is not until Gameweek 27 that their fixtures are particularly encouraging either, with Everton (home), Chelsea (away) and Arsenal (home) their next three opponents.

The Toffees are not exactly at their best right now so we could see a spirited performance at the John Smith’s Stadium in Gameweek 24, but those Gameweek 25 and 26 matches look particularly challenging.

However, a trip to Newcastle in Gameweek 27 looks slightly more appealing, before Wolves (home), Brighton (away), Bournemouth (home), West Ham (away) and Crystal Palace (away) after that.

It will be these fixtures that will truly demonstrate whether Fantasy managers can trust Huddersfield as Siewert will have had time to bed in changes and the matches themselves look more like the kind they will be targetting for points.

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  1. subhojit123
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Whom would u play out of -
    1. Button (vs fulham)
    2. Fabianski (vs wolves)

    A. Doherty
    B. TAA

    1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      1B

    2. FPL Forward Thinker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      1b

  2. MESSINHO
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Fabianski - Button
    Digne - Doherty - Holebas - AWB - TAA*
    Salah - Hazard - Pogba - Siggy - Hojbjerg
    Rashford - Jimenez - Kane*

    0.0 ITB, 1 FT

    A) Kane -> Auba
    B) Hojbjerg -> Sane & Kane -> Wilson (-4)

    1. stooshermadness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A. Aubameyang is the top striker in the Prem right now; more SiB than anyone over the last 6. He's the 4th leading scorer in FPL and is well-owned at 32%. Great fixture this GW and decent run ahead. I grant you that Aubameyang is not fun to watch when you own him; he drifts out of the game for long periods. But you can't argue with his numbers. Both Sane and Wilson have slight question marks as well; Sane's starting position when Mendy comes back and Wilson sustained a knee injury in the last game.

  3. NUFCAndrew
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    RMWCT, 1.5 ITB

    Leno Speroni

    Robbo Digne Shaw WB Bednarek

    Salah Sterling Pogba Jota Camarasa

    Aubameyang Rashford Ings

    1. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Very good, although Leno not worth it. Downgrade to someone else

      1. Teror
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Heaton

  4. Monkey Hanger
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    What is the highest price Mo will get to, this season?

    1. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Someone posted similar earlier, but looking likely 13.9/14 lol

    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      14 is maximum isn't it ??

      1. Teror
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I think at that point he should be erased out of the game. Just a bit silly innit.

        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Yes.
          Would make game fun again

      2. Monkey Hanger
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Isn't a max. 14 is the highest yet(Ronaldo), I think.

        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Ohh.
          Thank you for information.
          Insane price tag.
          Removing him now means saying goodbye for season 😀

    3. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      considering his ownership, likely to be 2-3 more rises but who knows...

    4. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      There's a max price point is there, didn't know that

      1. RedLightning
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        FPL do not divulge their price change algorithm.
        If there is a max price point (and I see no reason why there should be) then that is something that has yet to be tested.
        Also, the algorithm will have changed many times since Ronaldo's time, so any apparent precedent there means nothing.

  5. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Any objections over this FT move?

    Wilson -> Aubameyang

    Team at the moment with 1FT and 5 mill in the bank:

    Fabianski Button
    Robertson TAA Digne Doherty AWB
    Salah Eriksen Pogba Anderson Camarasa
    Rashford Jimenez Wilson

    1. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      save imo

      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        with Wilson and TAA injury worries?

      2. fr3d
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        You can't be serious

    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Nope.
      Optimum use of ft & Money.
      Auba is C for me ahead of Salah so I may be biased though 😉

    3. The Senate
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Get Auba (C) like me and Amey

  6. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I enjoy buying Wonky vegetables as some of the shapes can be quite hilarious, especially the double headed Siamese carrots. However having just taken delivery of some Wonky red onions, I find that they really are no different at all.

    They should be banned really under the Trade Description Act but I'm not complaining because they're cheaper than the normal ones.

    Strange days we live in.

    1. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yep. It's a wonky world out there.

      1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        🙂

  7. Pauntley
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Should I bench Fraser, Digne or David Luiz this week? Currently on benching Luiz as I fancy Bournemouth to score.

    Fabianski
    Robertson, Doherty, Digne
    Pogba, Salah (C), Sane, Fraser
    Rashford, Abua, Jiminez

    Subs: Hamer, Luiz, Wan-B, Billing

    thanks

    1. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Perfect lineup imo. Benched player wise.

      1. Pauntley
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        thanks

  8. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on Jota?

    1. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Bandwagon 😉
      I'm going to jump on it.

    2. fr3d
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      In form, OOP, 5.9m and plays for a decent team

    3. #FPLBhuna
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      his recent form minus the 4 games he missed is pretty impressive

      if you take the past 5 games he's played in

      8
      11
      4
      1
      19

      43/5

      almost 9 ppg

      granted he won't score 19 points every week but he's definitely passing the eye test at the moment and at his price point he looks a steal

    4. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Genuinely think a very good option... They talk in Scoutcast about him.... For 5.9. Can't go wrong

    5. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I wouldn't swap Jimenez for him and I'm never doubling up.

      If I didn't own Jim I'd want to observe another game or two as it may of been a blip.

    6. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      cant be worse than likes of Everton mids, Anderson etc... 😮

      1. Amey
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        😀

  9. Goat
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Really hope Chelsea make LC final. Will be such a relief selling Hazard and Alonso after GW 25

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Can't wait to sell those frauds.

    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He he

    3. fr3d
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Same. Who are you bringing in for Hazard?

      1. Goat
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Will depend on blanks. Too far ahead for my fragile mind to think

      2. Goat
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Have had a quick look. Mane looks good. No blanks a big factor

  10. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Which 2 would you start?

    Bednarek (Cry H)
    Wanbisa (Sou A)
    Doherty (Whu A)

    1. willl
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      bednarek doherty

    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Doherty & Beast

    3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      WD 40

    4. Goat
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A C. C is at home

  11. willl
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Current Team:

    Patricio / Button
    Robbo / TAA / Digne / Doherty / AWB
    Sterling / Hazard / Sane / Pogba / Richarlison
    Rashford / Jiminez / Kamara

    5.2m itb

    Looking at getting Auba in:

    A) Jiminez to Auba for free
    B) Kamara and Richarlison to Auba and 5m mid (-4)

    Leaning towards B currently.

    Any other ideas on what to do, I know I don't have Salah and I'm not planning on getting him in the next few weeks so other suggestions welcome.

    1. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      B with Puncheon looks good.
      Can use the spare afterwards

  12. joshjake
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Predictions on Higuain price?

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      9.5

    2. #FPLBhuna
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      9.5

    3. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Everyone is saying 9.5

      1. joshjake
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I hope so. I can afford Alli Ings out to find Higuain Lamela if he’s 9.5

        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Differential 😮

    4. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      10.

    5. Arctic monkeys
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      9.5 or 10 if they abuse

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        The use of abuse made me chuckle 😀

        1. Arctic monkeys
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Lol, we use it a lot as frensh is our second language.

    6. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      10.5

    7. Richd
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I hate to be a sheep but 9.5 makes sense. It really is the sweet spot imo. 9 too little and 10 is the absolute top end.

  13. Traction Engine Foot
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Jiménez and Anderson to Rashford and Jota for -4?

    1. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You are getting 2 in form player's for selling 1.
      It's very tempting though hit points may not be returned this gw.

      1. Traction Engine Foot
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah. Just feel Jota has higher points potential than Jiménez. Thanks.

        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Yes.
          Me too 😉

    2. Arctic monkeys
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yes

    3. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd just wait a GW.

    4. Goat
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yes to Rashford and Jota. No to selling Jiménez

  14. Richd
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Arsenal v Cardiff being called off would put a further cat amongst the pidgeons.

    It’s the right thing to do and all due to respects his friends and family.

    So many announcements to be made this week and it’s still a week until the deadline !

    1. Goat
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      If it was on Friday or Saturday maybe. Hardly call off a game next Tuesday? Also, no D in Pigeon

      1. Richd
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        We just don’t know what the searches will bring and when.

        Very emotional time at Cardiff. I feel for Warnock, and that’s something that doesn’t come easy. This is bigger than football.

        1. The Big Fella
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Why do you feel for Warnock? He didn't know the lad. Feel for his poor family if you are going to feel for anybody

          1. Richd
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            He met the guy and signed his dream contract and now has potentially died ? That’s a very close interaction. Behave yourself.

            1. The Big Fella
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              I'd be shocked/surprised and concerned for the family if I were Warnock but I wouldn't be devastated. They will have spoken for an hour or so and probably small talk mixed with where Warnock sees him playing in the team.

              1. Richd
                • 13 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                Based on this and your post below mods can you delete my original post I don’t wanna be associated with this.

                1. The Big Fella
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 10 months ago

                  Associated with what?! Do you get this wound up watching/reading the news when you see drones bombing innocent goat herders in the Middle East? I hope so. I also hope you don't own a smartphone or a computer as the atrocities that kids go through to mine those materials in countries like DRC is really a nightmare on earth.

                  1. HashAttack
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 10 months ago

                    Don't mention Coltan ... it's the phone industries dirty little secret

                    1. The Big Fella
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 10 months ago

                      Yeah. And the mineral loading in electronics is getting exponentially larger with each passing generation/model of the same phone/tablet. Horrendous!

    2. fr3d
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Did you just make this up? Won't happen

      1. Richd
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I haven’t made anything up

    3. Arctic monkeys
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Won't happen imo, just like the Leicester incident.

    4. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd be surprised if it happens tbh

      1. Richd
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        It’s unlikely, I agree, but we just don’t know what’s going to happen!

        Can’t put yourself in their shoes

        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah.

    5. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Doubt it will happen but who knows. I hope it doesn't. Yes, still a whole week! Crazy times.

    6. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Leicester chairman died in his own car park, and their next game went ahead.

    7. FAITHNOMORENO
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      leics played their game after their owner tragically died.not sure it will be any different with cardiff but we'll know more in the next 48 hours surely.

  15. NUFCAndrew
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Best GK to get in on a WC team? Currently on Heaton.

    1. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Good pick.

    2. FAITHNOMORENO
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd look at someone who's absolutely nailed.burnley has three solid options and have played two of their keepers already this season.wouldn't be surprised to see pope between the sticks too until the end of the season if fit.

  16. Captain_Shirokov
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    A) Rich to Moura/Jota
    or
    B) Pereira to Kolasinac?

    1. Arctic monkeys
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      B or save.

    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A
      Moura: If Spurs get dgw25
      OR Jota

  17. The Big Fella
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    In a situation like this with Sala, would Nantes still get the transfer fee from Cardiff? There must be some kind of insurance for this kind of transfer. You are buying an asset for millions of pounds/euros.

    1. Richd
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Classless

      1. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        No it is not. It is a genuine question about a scenario that is so out of the ordinary that it invokes curiosity about the consequences.

        1. The Rumour Mill
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I would imagine Nantes have received the transfer fee. What they do with it is up to them now. As for Cardiff, I imagine they will receive some sort of insurance payout.

          1. The Big Fella
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah. I agree this is the most likely scenario. It is strange to think of players, who are people, as "assets" that a club insures before "transferring" to another "company".

            1. The Rumour Mill
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Yeah, clubs are already receiving compensation for players on international duty, and injuries then are covered by medical insurance agreements and /or FIFA's club protection programme. I imagine the tragic,unfortunate circumstance of Sala falls under similar arrangements

              https://www.thestatszone.com/players-on-international-duty-how-much-compensation-do-clubs-receive

              Yeah it is an odd juxtaposition isn't it? Sport is one of the only (legal) industries where this happens I think!

              1. The Big Fella
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                This is very interesting, cheers. I didn't know about this international injuries. Seen the below comment by FaithNoMoreNo that Cardiff may not be able to reclaim the transfer fee? I can't see Nantes being too keen on refusing it either.

    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think they will refuse the fees and Cardiff should give the contract money (salary) to Sala's family.

      1. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        It would be a nice gesture but I can't see it happening. £15m? I doubt either club can afford to give away that much. I am not so sure Nantes will be refusing the transfer fees either.

        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I personally don't care about Transfer fees tbh as all clubs are there for business & earn money.

          I really hope that the family of the player should be paid the money in contact. Money can't bring him back but you need it to survive.

          1. Amey
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Contract*

            1. The Big Fella
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Also, you may not care but the board and shareholders will and I bet they try and get as much of it back as they can

              1. Amey
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                Yeah that's right.

          2. The Big Fella
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Well, Cardiff are owned by a Malaysian and the Asians are very family orientated so if he gets the money back via insurance, he may make a gesture payment to the family in Argentina.

            1. Amey
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Good to hear that 🙂

      2. Swanremainsthesame
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I think some sensible people would have life insurance policies in place. Hopefully for the pilots family too (who seems to have been forgotten in this)

        1. The Big Fella
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Very good point actually (about the pilot). I am not sure who in their 20s (or even 30s) considers life insurance though, sensible or not.

    3. FAITHNOMORENO
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      "Cardiff are not yet considering what they will do about any other signings. An insurance expert said that it was unlikely the club would be able to recoup the fee they had paid for him."

      the times

      1. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Wow crazy! I am surprised by that (the second part). Thanks for the quote.

      2. HNI
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        That would hit Cardiff hard. 19mn is big money for especially them considering they will be bumped to championship next season

        1. The Big Fella
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I agree with the transfer fee hitting them hard which is why I think they will try and get as much of it back as they can. I am not sure they will go down though. I think they will be ok. Fulham and Huddersfield to drop but I am not as certain it will be Cardiff for the 3rd club.

          1. HNI
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Also such payments are given in installments. And some even performance based.

        2. Swanremainsthesame
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Most larger companies have 'key personnel' insurance - if Premier League teams with 100s millions tied up in players do not have them routinely insured their Financial Directors are utterly incompetent.

  18. HNI
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Will Cardiff City still have to pay transfer fee to Nantes for missing Sala? Not sure if transfer agreement has clause for casualty. Very rare situation indeed

    1. HNI
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Oh great above discussion helps

  19. STONEROSES
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Can convert:
    Barnes/Camaraso/Chambers to
    Kamara/Puncheon/ B. Mendy

    Worth doing?