Scout Notes

Another blank for Pukki as Villa expose Norwich’s leaky defence

Norwich City 1-5 Aston Villa

Goals: Josip Drmic (£5.4m) | Wesley (£6.0m) x2, Jack Grealish (£5.9m), Conor Hourihane (£5.7m), Douglas Luiz (£4.5m)
Assists: None | Anwar El Ghazi (£5.5m) x2, Hourihane, Matt Targett (£4.4m) Wesley
Bonus Points: Wesley x3, Michael McGovern (£4.0m) x2, Hourihane x1

Norwich City’s thrill-a-minute return to the Premier League continued on Saturday with a 5-1 battering at home by fellow promoted side Aston Villa.

The commitment of Daniel Farke’s team to attacking football is refreshing, exhilarating and, increasingly, self-defeating. Since Gameweek 5’s famous 3-2 win over Manchester City, the Canaries have lost three straight games by an aggregate score of 1-9.

Their well-documented injury woes – just the nine regulars unavailable against Villa – goes some way to explaining all of that, but an inability to defend on even the most basic level is starting to look like a terminal issue.

It was certainly exploited by the visitors, with striker Wesley (£6.0m) enjoying by far his best display since his summer move to the Midlands. He opened the scoring when he controlled Anwar El Ghazi‘s (£5.5m) cross and turned and fired past Norwich keeper Michael McGovern (£4.0m), before he doubled the lead with a tap-in from Conor Hourihane‘s (£5.7m) low ball from the left.

That made it four goals in eight starts for the Brazilian – not exactly a bad return for a forward who some Villa fans were criticising after last week’s 2-2 draw with Burnley.

He added an assist for the fifth goal when Douglas Luiz (£4.5m) curled home from distance to bring in 14 points, including maximum bonus, for his 2.0% Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership.

The only downer on his day came when he had a first-half penalty, and the rebound, saved by McGovern – a blip which cost that ownership a further six points.

Despite all that, there is no indication of an FPL rush to bring in Wesley just yet, probably because a) it was only Norwich, b) the international break is upon us and c) Villa’s upcoming schedule is far from appealing.

Dean Smith’s side host Brighton in Gameweek 9 before embarking on a punishing six-match run involving two trips to Manchester, one to Chelsea and a home fixture against Liverpool.

However uninspired Manchester United, or generous at the back Chelsea, might be, no side will be anywhere near as accommodating as Norwich at present.

The Canaries allowed their visitors 22 shots, of which 12 were on target; Villa’s midfield ran riot as a result.

Jack Grealish (£5.9m) made it 3-0 when he combined sweetly with El Ghazi, and the tireless Hourihane then capped a fine individual performance with his first goal of the season, set up by the equally industrious Matt Targett (£4.4m).

But while Wesley stole all the headlines, it was El Ghazi who was arguably the star of the show.

The Holland international now has two goals and three assists from his last five games and he was joint-top for chances created at Carrow Road. With just 0.8% ownership, he could be a major differential, particularly when Villa’s schedule eases dramatically from Gameweek 17 onwards.

One player proving way more popular than El Ghazi is the 11.7%-owned John McGinn (£5.8m), who came into the match with back-to-back goals and 214,000+ new owners to his name.

His blank was a bitter blow, as was the late consolation goal handed to Norwich when Tyrone Mings‘ (£4.6m) ill-judged back pass to Tom Heaton (£4.5m) allowed substitute Josip Drmic (£5.4m) to charge down the keeper’s attempted clearance and roll the ball into the empty net. That denied Villa a third clean sheet of the season – and a first away from home – but manager Smith was happy to dwell on events further up the pitch:

They were really good goals, our tactical discipline was really good today. Our performances have been there. That result today is probably what we’ve deserved in the last few weeks. – Dean Smith

And he was keen to praise Wesley:

He’s a young player, he’s only 22, he’s been in Belgium for a year or two and then Slovakia before that. So it’s a new culture, a new team a new group of players, and a big price tag. But he handles it well and I saw a big response from him this week. – Dean Smith.

Wesley’s Norwich counterpart, the 43.5%-owned Teemu Pukki (£7.2m), could only dream of receiving such praise.

After three double-digit returns from his first five matches, the Finn has now blanked for three straight Gameweeks.

Norwich attacked throughout on Saturday – the top four players for penalty area touches all came from the home side, with Pukki among them.

But the Finland international managed just two shots, neither of which were on target, and has had just seven attempts across his current barren spell.

It is no surprise, therefore, that he is currently Gameweek 9’s most-sold player, even with a trip to a Bournemouth side without a clean sheet to come next.

The Canaries’ other popular asset, the 25.7%-owned Todd Cantwell (£4.9m), survived an injury scare to start against Villa, but he also blanked for a third Gameweek running.

He did at least out-shoot Pukki and he was also joint-top with Emiliano Buendia (£6.0m) for chances created among the home players. And the third-most-owned Norwich player in FPL? That would be goalkeeper McGovern (5.6%).

The 380,000+ Fantasy geniuses who have the Canaries’ third-choice stopper in their squads would have walked away with nine points yesterday courtesy of his penalty heroics, six other saves and two bonus points.

But that was if – and it’s a big if – he wasn’t languishing on their benches in all his £4.0m glory.

Glory was certainly far from Farke’s mind post-match:

We have to accept this loss. We made too many mistakes. We created maybe more than they did in the first half, but the mistakes and the goals we were conceded were not good enough. We had so many on the pitch playing with pain killers and they have not been able to train properly this week. So really we are not prepared as we need to be. Then in addition, one or two crucial players do not have their best day. – Daniel Farke

In truth, only McGovern had his best day against Villa, and even he looked nervy before his spot-kick save.

As for the rest of the players, the international break looks to have come at just the right time, allowing them to escape overseas, take a break or recover from injury – whatever is needed to reverse a slide that is looking unstoppable at the moment.

How many Fantasy managers keep faith in the likes of Pukki and Cantwell before November’s final break of the year is unclear. Their fixtures are okay – Bournemouth and Brighton away, Man United and Watford at Carrow Road – but their form is anything but.

Members Analysis

Norwich (4-2-3-1): McGovern; Aarons, Amadou, Godfrey, Lewis; Leitner, McLean; Buendia, Stiepermann (Roberts 76′), Cantwell (Srbeny 80′); Pukki (Drmic 84′).

Aston Villa (4-3-3): Heaton; Guilbert, Engels (Konsa 75′), Mings, Targett; McGinn, Nakamba, Hourihane (Douglas Luiz 78′); El Ghazi (Trezeguet 64′), Wesley, Grealish.

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3,153 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Atimis
    • 3 Years
    2 months, 9 days ago

    Morning all!

    Is this a crazy idea: Son Cantwell Pukki to Maddison Mount Wilson -8 ?

    Would going Wilson over Vardy be a mistake?

    1. King Holebas
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      No, Wilson has better stats, just doesn't have the pens and fixtures like Vardy

      1. Atimis
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 9 days ago

        Next two are better for Wilson imho

    2. AnyLaporteinastorm
      • 10 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      Crazy

    3. Lord Tachanka
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      Crazy not too, as long as you give them all 4 games before shipping.

  2. dee_top
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 months, 9 days ago

    What do you think about WC team below? Any changes needed?

    Ryan
    TAA Pereira Tomori
    Mane KDB Maddison Mount
    Auba Abraham C.Wilson

    Subs: Button Lundstram Rico Dendoncker

    1. ZICO SENNA
      • 8 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      Mane to Salah and Wilson to Vardy i reckon.

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 9 days ago

        Mane to salah?? LOL

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 9 days ago

          you are at it again mate, In a few days again you'll change your mind and be like oh "I was stubborn but I am open minded."

      2. dee_top
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 9 days ago

        Are you serious?

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 9 days ago

          He suggested you 2 upgrades without suggesting a downgrade to find the funds. Do you think he is serious?

          1. dee_top
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 9 days ago

            I bet your question is a bit rhetorical too, as mine 😉

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 1 Year
              2 months, 9 days ago

              indeed indeed

    2. King Holebas
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      I like it, solid all round

    3. AnyLaporteinastorm
      • 10 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      Like it. Just upgrade the keepers

      1. dee_top
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 9 days ago

        Ryan is a beast!

  3. hshepherd
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    2 months, 9 days ago

    Hey all, which option would you choose from below? I'm planning to make these transfers over the next 2-3 weeks if all goes to plan. 1FT currently available.

    A) Salah, Pukki, Digne >>> Mahrez, Vardy, TAA
    B) Salah, Pukki, Digne, Tomori >>> Maddison, Vardy, TAA, Robbo
    C) Salah, Pukki, Digne >>> Maddison, Auba, TAA

    I'll probably be tempted to swap out Pukki and Salah after the IB in case of any injuries. Plan to bring in TAA and maybe Robbo in a few weeks when Liverpool fixtures are easier.
    Open to any suggestions! Thanks all:)

    1. hshepherd
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 months, 9 days ago

      My current squad is:
      Pope, Button
      Tomori, Rico, Soy, Digne, Lundstram
      Sterling, Mount, Salah, KDB, Cantwell
      CWilson, Pukki, Tammy

    2. The 12th Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      C looks nice

      1. hshepherd
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 9 days ago

        Thanks mate

  4. El Rey de Fantasy
    • 6 Years
    2 months, 9 days ago

    Pope. Button.
    TAA. Aurier. Engels. Lundstram. Rico.
    Salah. Sterling. Mount. Cantwell. Dendocker.
    Aguero. Abraham. Pukki.

    0.3 in bnk.

    Thinking of doing: Salah + Pukki > 8.7 mid + Aubameyang

    Good move...?? Good points getting mid for/ under 8.7...??

    1. Slouch87 Scott Talent
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 9 days ago

      No . Leaves your midfield very light and the defence needs some work too.

      1. King Holebas
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 9 days ago

        This, too top heavy. Start by fixing your back line before looking up forward

    2. FOO FIGHTER
        2 months, 9 days ago

        No 8.7m better option than Salah.

        Keeping Sterling when he is trolling big time yet get rid of Salah who is outscoring him lol.

        1. Slouch87 Scott Talent
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 9 days ago

          Simmer down . You're getting a bit big for your boots.

          1. FOO FIGHTER
              2 months, 9 days ago

              Sterling is trolling. Fact.

              1. Slouch87 Scott Talent
                • 4 Years
                2 months, 9 days ago

                Every player has spells like this but eventually hit their straps again. Sterling will be no different and then people will be ripping up their squads to get him back. Fact.

                1. FOO FIGHTER
                    2 months, 9 days ago

                    Nah, KDB better City option.

                  • FOO FIGHTER
                      2 months, 9 days ago

                      Same with Salah, ain't it?

                      1. Slouch87 Scott Talent
                        • 4 Years
                        2 months, 9 days ago

                        At some point Salah will start hitting the returns again. I do believe that Mane can match his output though. Ultimately I think Sterling will score higher than Kev but that's just my opinion which maybe wrong.

                  • Murder On Zidanesfloor
                    • 1 Year
                    2 months, 9 days ago

                    He's still the 4th highest scoring Mid...just 7 points behind your precious Salah. And that can change in 1GW.

                    1. FOO FIGHTER
                        2 months, 9 days ago

                        Sure but KDB also ahead of Sterling.

              2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                • 1 Year
                2 months, 9 days ago

                Nah just Salah, pukki > Mane, Wilson

                1. FOO FIGHTER
                    2 months, 9 days ago

                    Salah will outscore Mane come end season like he has every season.

                    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                      • 1 Year
                      2 months, 9 days ago

                      Compare their scores Gw by Gw this season when both have started. 6 games, Mane leading 53-46

                      Mane has taken his game to the next level.

                      1. FOO FIGHTER
                          2 months, 9 days ago

                          Mane is a fantastic player. If Salah had to be out for a lengthy spell then I would go for Mane.

                          Salah on penalties plus freekicks/set pieces.

                          If you have Salah then keep. Salah to Mane is proper sideways.

                          1. Christina.
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 9 Years
                            2 months, 9 days ago

                            lol

                            1. FOO FIGHTER
                                2 months, 9 days ago

                                Ha ha. Why you not fond of Salah?

                                1. Christina.
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Its liberating not owning him. Did it last season and after selling in wk 2 this year I have not looked back.

                                  Love owning and watching Mane.

                                  He is brilliant.

                                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      I agree, I am a Pool fan. Mane and Salah are both demons.

                                      Guess it comes down whether you need that 0.9m to help out elsewhere in your squad.

                                      Salah has outscored Mane in every FPL season.

                                      1. Christina.
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 9 Years
                                        2 months, 9 days ago

                                        of course I agree. I just dont agree that what is valid for Salah is not valid for say Sterling over KdB.

                              • Hakim Ziyech
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  So good to see all these stats & arguments knowing fully well I've got both in the team

                                • The 12th Man
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 6 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Salah snot worth his price.

                                  Not until he starts converting consistently. Probably Out for KDB here.

                                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      Which 12m mid has been consistent?

                                      That makes Sterling a waste at over 12m.

                                      1. Christina.
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 9 Years
                                        2 months, 9 days ago

                                        You dont have to own any one of Sterling or Salah.

                                        I dont.

                                        Might even sell Kun this week if KdB is fit.

                                        1. FOO FIGHTER
                                            2 months, 9 days ago

                                            I sold Kun too. Now only have KDB as well. Not getting rid of Mo though.

                                        2. The 12th Man
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 6 Years
                                          2 months, 9 days ago

                                          There’s an argument to dump him as well.
                                          20 points GW1 .
                                          28 in the next 7.

                                          Especially with KDB and Mane around offering a consistent supply of points. Probably a better captain option too until Salah,Sterling regain their form.

                          2. fc_skrald
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 4 Years
                            2 months, 9 days ago

                            I have the exact money to do Digne + Hayden -> Kelly + Mount.

                            I still have my wildcard - so should I just make the move now and then acrivate the wildcard later if needed? If I go for a 3.9 million defender instead af Kelly I can tolerate a further price change of 0.2 milluon. What would you do?

                            Heaton
                            TAA, Lundstram, Tomori
                            Salah, Sterling, KDB, Hayden
                            Pukki, Abraham, Wilson

                            McGovern, Cantwell, Rico, Hayden

                            1. King Holebas
                              • 4 Years
                              2 months, 9 days ago

                              Make the transfer then WC if needed and regarding Kelly only bring him in if you plan to start him one week or have him incase he comes off the bench no point having him and not planning to start him when you can do the same with a 3.9 defender imo

                          3. IRBOX ⚽
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 2 Years
                            2 months, 9 days ago

                            So many going without Salah and Sterling on WC.. going to end in tears and red arrows

                            1. Atimis
                              • 3 Years
                              2 months, 9 days ago

                              Heard it about Sterling for 4 GWs now ?

                              1. Free Hat
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  This. Being too stubborn can also hurt.
                                  (and Im a Sterling+Salah owner)

                              2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                                • 1 Year
                                2 months, 9 days ago

                                Salah > Mane is a very solid switch imo.

                                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                                  • 1 Year
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  I did it in GW2 and am reaping the rewards.
                                  Wouldnt wanna go without a pool mid at all though

                                2. King Holebas
                                  • 4 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  This and Sterling should come good again when KDB is back which will hopefully be sooner rather then later

                            2. Miguel Sanchez
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 3 Years
                              2 months, 9 days ago

                              Which Leicester option

                              A) Maddison
                              B) Vardy

                              1. King Holebas
                                • 4 Years
                                2 months, 9 days ago

                                A but feel like B will be the more popular pick

                              2. Free Hat
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Coin toss really. Whos to know which one will do better. Both good imo.

                              3. King Holebas
                                • 4 Years
                                2 months, 9 days ago

                                Any ideas on what do do with this lot?
                                Pope Mcgovern
                                TAA Robbo Ota Dunk Lund
                                Salah Sterling Mount Guend
                                Kane King Wickham
                                0.2ITB 1FT WC available

                                1. Jacky boy
                                  • 3 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Kane king
                                  Abraham vardy

                                2. Miguel Sanchez
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 3 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Use Kane to help you get two from

                                  Abraham
                                  Wilson
                                  Vardy

                                3. King Holebas
                                  • 4 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Thanks all

                              4. Jacky boy
                                • 3 Years
                                2 months, 9 days ago

                                Who to Captain out of these? Hmmm

                                A) Salah vs manu A
                                B) Auba vs SHU A
                                C) Abraham vs new H

                                1. King Holebas
                                  • 4 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  A then C imo, Sheffield have proven to be pretty solid defensively

                                  1. Jacky boy
                                    • 3 Years
                                    2 months, 9 days ago

                                    Thanks

                                2. Free Hat
                                    2 months, 9 days ago

                                    Atm tammy. But the next best would be Salah.

                                3. Igor-Stimac
                                  • 2 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Pukki to Wilson or Cantwell to Mcginn?

                                4. Tsparkes10
                                  • 1 Year
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Flying from Donny Airport this morning, didn't realise how small it was

                                  1. Slouch87 Scott Talent
                                    • 4 Years
                                    2 months, 9 days ago

                                    Very handy for us Sheffielders,. Where you off to ?

                                    1. Tsparkes10
                                      • 1 Year
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      Altinkum for a week, all inclusive so should be fun, used the wc but probs should've had a break from it all haha. Will try catch price rises but 2 hours ahead

                                      1. Slouch87 Scott Talent
                                        • 4 Years
                                        2 months, 9 days ago

                                        Forget FPL . Enjoy the AI bun fight. We have been back a week from GC AI .

                                        1. Tsparkes10
                                          • 1 Year
                                          2 months, 9 days ago

                                          Niceee, start work after this so a nice little break before the grind haha

                                5. BIELSA
                                  • 4 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Pope
                                  Vvd - Taa - Otamendi - Kelly - Lundstram
                                  Kdb - Sterling - Mane - Mcginn - Mount
                                  Pukki - Tammy - 4.5

                                  1.2m ITB and 2FTs, not sure what to do other than downgrade vvd? Thoughts?

                                  1. Tsparkes10
                                    • 1 Year
                                    2 months, 9 days ago

                                    Pukki to Wilson would tempt me, or VVD to Perreira?

                                6. dee_top
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 2 Years
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Is it a good plan to have Vardy on WC rather than Auba, in order to change him to Auba after GW9

                                  Vardy vs Burnley At home GW9
                                  Auba vs Cry at home GW10

                                7. Tsparkes10
                                  • 1 Year
                                  2 months, 9 days ago

                                  Advised everyone not to captain Salah last week cause we are solid. Going to say the same for Aubameyang owners. You have been warned 🙂

                                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      Many were capping Kun and Sterling. See how that ended.

                                  2. eazy
                                    • 3 Years
                                    2 months, 9 days ago

                                    Auba or Wilson on wc?

                                    1. dee_top
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 2 Years
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      Wilson for me

                                    2. FOO FIGHTER
                                        2 months, 9 days ago

                                        Auba but you can have a much better front 3 if you go Wilson.

                                    3. Joyce1998
                                      • 3 Years
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      Pick one to play
                                      A- ota
                                      B- lund
                                      C- Cantwell
                                      Team is
                                      Pope
                                      Taa, digne, soy
                                      Salah, sterling, kdb, mount
                                      Pukki, Tammy

                                    4. Atimis
                                      • 3 Years
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      Thinking about Son Cantwell Pukki to Maddison Mount Wilson -8?
                                      Have 1FT, 0.9ITB and really want Mount + one of Wilson/Vardy in my team.

                                      Pope
                                      TAA/Ota/Tomori/Soy
                                      Mane/KDB/Son
                                      Auba/Abraham/Pukki

                                      Button/Cantwell/Lund/Hayden

                                    5. LM00091
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      2 months, 9 days ago

                                      GW9
                                      (3-4-3)
                                      Ryan / (Button)
                                      Pereira, TAA, Otamendi (Kelly, Lundstram)
                                      McGinn, Salah, KDB, Mount (Cantwell)
                                      Aguero, Pukki, Abraham(c)

                                      1 FT and 0.6 in the Bank...not sure what to do to improve the team

                                      A) Lundstram > Tomori
                                      B) Pukki > King or Haller
                                      C) Save the FT

                                    6. Hairy Potter
                                      • 4 Years
                                      2 months, 8 days ago

                                      KDB and Salah to Mongstaff and Songstaff for a hit?

                                    7. fgdu
                                      • 6 Years
                                      2 months, 8 days ago

                                      Bench 1 out of TAA Aurier Ota Rico McGinn