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The final match of Gameweek 4 – and the last Premier League fixture before the October international break – sees two sides with 100% winning records square off at Villa Park.

Aston Villa v Liverpool gets underway in the West Midlands at 19:15 BST.

There are two significant changes to Jurgen Klopp’s starting XI, with Sadio Mane (£11.9m) and Alisson (£6.0m) both missing for the visitors.

Mane’s absence we knew about, with Liverpool confirming on Friday that the Senegal international had tested positive for COVID-19.

Diogo Jota (£6.3m) comes in for his first Premier League start for the Reds.

Alisson’s shoulder injury we weren’t aware of ahead of Saturday’s Fantasy Premier League deadline but rumours had gathered momentum about his unavailability this afternoon and the Brazilian indeed sits this one out with a shoulder injury.

Adrian (£4.5m) deputises between the posts.

Klopp shed more light on his first-choice shot-stopper’s injury before the match, saying:

Yesterday an incident in training, very unlucky – two players clash with each other, one gets up, one doesn’t. The one who didn’t get up was Ali.

So, after the first few things, we don’t know 100 per cent. But he cannot play today. We have to do further assessment but he’s injured, let me say it like this. Now we hope it will go really quickly.

It’s an international break, I’m pretty sure after that he will not be ready. Then we have to see week by week.

On Mane, the Liverpool boss added:

He’s good, he’s good. We are obviously in contact pretty often.

He is fine. Monday night, we played Arsenal, played a really good game, after the game it was a really good feeling. And then the problems started immediately. That’s how it is. That’s how life is, that’s how our life is as well, that’s completely normal.

Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) has recovered from a muscle problem but the England midfielder is only among the substitutes this evening.

Aston Villa’s starting XI shows only one change, with Conor Hourihane (£6.0m) dropping to the bench.

Ross Barkley (£5.9m) comes in for the Irishman and makes his Aston Villa debut, following his loan move from Chelsea.

Three-quarters of Liverpool’s backline and Mohamed Salah (£12.2m) boast double-digit ownerships in FPL, with the Egyptian and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) the fourth and third most-owned assets overall.

Emi Martinez (£4.6m), who has racked up 19 points in his new club’s first two Premier League matches of the season, is Villa’s most-owned player.


Aston Villa XI: Martínez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, McGinn, Luiz, Barkley, Trézéguet, Watkins, Grealish.

Liverpool XI: Adrián, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, van Dijk, Robertson, Keita, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Salah, Firmino, Jota.

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  1. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Werner+Zaha >> DCL+Son?

    1. Royal5
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      If you want points

    2. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Oh yes. The value of 2FT 🙂

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        Haha! 🙂

  2. Limbo
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Haha. Sounez blaming the groundmen.

  3. Nightcrawler
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Sell ings or jiminez for Kane?

    1. Paulie Walnuts
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      I'm selling Jimi

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      The 1 return monster as you say. Not sure why you got him.

    3. JonSnow
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Jimi

  4. Paulie Walnuts
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Hello etc.

    What is the best nailed playing 4.4 defender?

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Jamal Lewis I guess

    2. Dannyb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Mitchell maybe

    3. Limbo
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Cooper?

  5. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Bottomed...

    Have the exact cash to do:

    Trent, Greenwood and Werner >>
    Robertson, Hamez and Kane....

    Kind of goes against my policy for early trannies, but if they all get injured during the IB I guess I can WC

    Should I pull the trigger?

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Make the moves for the ones that are price changing

      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        That's 2 of them then. Going to have to do it

        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 12 days ago

          3 very good signings

  6. nerd_is_the_werd
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Minamino coming on... about time!!

  7. HurriKane
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Is this the most kneejerkery season to date?

    Honestly want a different 11 each gw the way its been going

    So many unpredictable results and VAR drama

    1. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Apart from Kane, Son, DCL, Hamez, Saiss...

    2. FPL DONKEY
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Tell me about it. One week I hate my team the next week I love it

  8. manu4life99
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Werner owners are you selling before the potential price drop tonight?

    Werner,Podence > Watkins,Son(-4)?

    1. Dannyb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Yes

    2. JonSnow
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      good be a big price swing if you wait too long

    3. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      I just did the same thing

    4. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Going DCL I think. Enough is enough and the pool fixture no longer puts me off him

    5. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Potential? Heh.

    6. Hart-ake
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Solid.

    7. teneighty
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Just pressed the button

    8. mr messi
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Yes

  9. Rligudfootiemanager
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Wildcard decision

    So I saw, in terms of fixtures, Gameweek 8 being the best week for a wildcard (I've still go mine) due to fixture swings around West Ham, Man C, Aston Villa but I feel now that my team has issues - mostly around defence and nailedness. What do we think?

    McCarthy 4.0
    TAA - Doherty - Justin - Vinagre - Mitchell
    Sterling - Rodri - Trossard - De Bruyne - Soucek
    Adams - Jimenez - Mitrovoic

    After IB I will have issues with Justin Vinagre & Mitchell. Doherty concerned about him not playing today & general effectiveness.

    I've been beyond patient for Adams! Both Manchester clubs have fitness issues.

    I need Kane & Son

    I'm thinking Im going to change my plans and go for wildcard over IB. What do we think?

    1. Hulk Smash
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      WC

  10. El Presidente
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Liverpool fans laughing at ManU fans 1h ago...Ah ah ah

    1. Greasy Grealish Gang
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Well, when I take a look at the table I still am.

    2. nerd_is_the_werd
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      I think everyone is laughing at ManU fans...

    3. Stockport Hatter
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Yeh but in fairness United are and have been a joke for a while.

  11. Slitherene
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    OUT : Mitro, Werner, Richarlison
    IN : Maupay, Kane, Wilson

    Exact money, should I take a hit?

    1. The Handsome Hunk
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Watkins instead of Wilson. Better team attacking wise

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Keep Richarlison

  12. Hulk Smash
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Sounness: "Aston Villa have left the grass a bit longer to stop Liverpool"

    I'm done.

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      This continues to be a terrible take

      Liverpool fullbacks cost 7m and 7.5ml, they arent premiums and give premium returns

      They will still get close to 200 points and can do this with conceeding in nearly 50% of games in a 38 game season

      I dont get how people claim they are not worth it based on one game

      Its like some self delusion for justifying not having them both

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        It really does depend on what type of manager you are. If we had to setup a team without free transfers double Liverpool defence might be the way to go, but you can try and optimise when you have them.

        14.5m + Podence can be beaten by 11m + Son, for instance.

  13. $hahriyar
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    My original comment hasn’t been posted yet. I wanna know why

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Pundit one?

      1. $hahriyar
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        Yes TM! At least somebody cares! Jeez

          1. $hahriyar
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 12 days ago

            Thank you. It said the comment was being moderated or something. I haven’t been on here in a while. Go figure

    2. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Time traveler?

  14. Botman and Robben
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Maybe a full set of 4.5m defenders to rotate is the way to go this season.

    1. Hulk Smash
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Trying to predict clean sheets for a defensive rotation is a fool's errand at the minute

  15. Ibralicious
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Wildcard and triple VIlla the move now surely? The performance of a title contender.

  16. Pedram
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    And to think i was considering doubling up on Liverpool's defense

    1. Como Park Rambler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Same

    2. FPL_trail_runner
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Dont base decisions on one game

      You want to do better at FPL then your basis for longterm decisions need to be better than a 45min take and stats based

      They remain worth the double up

      1. Other teams still cant match ( City and Everton are not as good as people hoped in defence)

      2. Thiago and Allison will be back in 2 weeks

      3. Theres 2 years of data against this take - 45min doesnt mean anything

      4. There isnt a consisent must have range of premiums to justify dropping them - can easily have the double up and all the current form players ( Hamez, Sterling Salah, Son, DCL etc

      People said the same based on Watford away last year...

      They will and can concede in 20 games a year and still get 200 points.

  17. Sharkytect
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Max kilman.

    Is he a long term pick? Who ishe covering for?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Marcal

  18. Champions League Varane
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Mahrez,Jimenez,Podence ➡️ Son,Trossard,Watkins = -4?

    Allows me to do Wood to DCL and VVD to Robertson the following week?

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      That seems ok. Could you just do Mahrez -> Son for now and wait 2 weeks for the rest?

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        Unfortunately not 🙁

  19. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    I watched Watkins closely against Fulham and he was so weak in that game against a very poor opponent. I don't know what to think anymore.

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Fulham a defensive stalwart?

    2. Champions League Varane
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      I acc thought he was quite good

    3. TheDragon
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      It’s a total lottery so far this season.

    4. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Dead team is the way to go

    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      He was fantastic last season

    6. Brosstan
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Wont face Liverpool every week. Trust your initial eye test

    7. Salan
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      You can't think this season.

  20. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    City 1-1 against a promoted side
    United 1 Spurs 6
    Liverpool 1 Villa 4
    Leicester 0 wham 3

    Wtf indeed

    1. Ibralicious
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      How is the Leicester result a shock? Mid-table side at best

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        They were playing David Moyes’ west ham.

        Mid table championship side

      2. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        The beat Man City 5-2 last week that’s how

  21. The Handsome Hunk
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    At this rate, FFS site would shutdown as no stats/suggestions/discussions is helping anyone 😛

  22. TheDragon
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    What is causing this season to be so high scoring?

    It can only be the lack of crowds?

    1. KGFC
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Yep, no diff in home and away matches

    2. Hulk Smash
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      2020 curse

    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Major differences in fitness

  23. Brosstan
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Fraudino reduced to hacking down actual quality players at this point. Offers nothing

    1. ivantys
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      He has a challenger in Jota now

    2. Right In The Stanchion
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Who is fraudinho?

  24. shaunyjames
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Knee jerking hits galore, -8 incoming!

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      I’m about to take one I think
      Son Kane and pulisic gtf in

      1. shaunyjames
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 12 days ago

        Son Kane and Hamez in KDB Foden & Vardy out. Queue Vardy hatrick and KDB haul

  25. ivantys
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Jota is so bad omg

  26. aapoman
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Kane or Son?

    1. Orion
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Both it seems

    2. Champions League Varane
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Both

  27. Mikey44
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Kane + Saiss in for Werner + Doherty for 2 FT's, sounds good?

    1. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Great move

    2. Orion
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Go with cheaper defender

  28. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Any point wasting a WC?
    No idea who to get apart from Spurs Everton

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Don't do it

  29. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 12 days ago

    Everyone getting Kane and Son in. West Ham 2-0 victory incoming.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      2 week break will make them rusty.

    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 12 days ago

      Probs!