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BRENTFORD 2-0 ARSENAL

  • Goals: Sergi Canós (£5.5m), Christian Nørgaard (£5.0m)
  • Assists: Ethan Pinnock (£4.5m)
  • Bonus points: Canós x3, Pinnock x2, Raya x1

Newly promoted Brentford enjoyed a dream start to Premier League life as they deservedly beat Arsenal 2-0 to kick off the new season.

Sergi Canós (£5.5m) fired the Bees into the lead via an Ethan Pinnock (£4.5m) assist for the opener, before Christian Nørgaard (£5.0m) headed home from close-range in the second half. 

It may be early days for Thomas Frank’s side, but the result and nature of the performance suggest that this season can be more than just a battle against relegation.

MBEUMO V TONEY

Though most of the Fantasy discussion during pre-season was focused around talisman Ivan Toney (£6.5m), it was team-mate and out-of-position midfielder Bryan Mbeumo (£5.5m) who carried most of Brentford’s attacking threat on the night.

The 22-year-old was the most advanced of all Bees players, often operating on the shoulder of the last defender, and he was unfortunate not to have returned having come close to scoring on a couple of occasions.

Interestingly, it was Toney who found himself deeper in Thomas Frank’s 3-5-2, tasked with bringing others into play. However, we should point out that he was heavily involved and perhaps unfortunate not to pick up an assist during the 90 minutes, though the fact he didn’t register a single goal attempt is perhaps a little concerning for his owners.

Canos actually had a better minutes-per-chance average than the 31-goal striker last season (albeit with many efforts coming from distance) and he topped the shot count for Brentford on Friday, also taking both of the Bees’ corners.

Defensively, the backline did look vulnerable at times, though the performance of David Raya (£4.5m) was encouraging as he made several crucial stops and as a result collected a bonus point.

Brentford boss Thomas Frank said:

“I think the players today were amazing, they ran themselves to the ground, played with intensity, they were brave and pressed high constantly. On set-pieces I thought we were better, that’s why we did long throws and at times we could go high and knew that we could win the ball and create chances.

Ivan (Toney) has an unbelievable character and mentality and he has such a presence on the pitch. How many duels he wins… he can link-up and press for the team. He is very important to us. Bryan (Mbuemo) did a good job of stretching them, of going one-v-one and with his pace he is a big threat.”

SMITH ROWE, TIERNEY CATCH EYE

On a frustrating evening for Arsenal in which they looked short of ideas, Emile Smith Rowe (£5.5m) and Kieran Tierney (£5.0m) were the only real bright sparks.

The Gunners no. 10 pulled the strings from deeper areas, regularly breaking forward into the final third, while team-mate Tierney (no. 3, below) was one of the Gunners most advanced players and finished the match with 52 final-third touches, 11 crosses and six created chances – all game-high totals.

Arsenal’s average position map vs Brentford

However, no one at Arsenal was able to get on the end of those crosses, which highlighted just how much they missed forwards Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£10.0m) and Alexandre Lacazette (£8.5m), who were both struck down by illness earlier in the day.

On a possible Gameweek 2 return for the duo, Arteta said:

“I can’t change that. We knew that before the game. I don’t know (if they’ll be available for the next game.”

For new signing Ben White (£4.5m), it was a night to forget as he was bullied by Toney throughout, and was part of the failed attempt to defend the throw-in that led to Brentford’s second goal.

Brentford XI: Raya, Ajer (Bech Sorensen 71), Jansson, Pinnock, Canos, Onyeka (Bidstrup 80), Norgaard, Janelt, Henry, Mbeumo (Forss 86), Toney

Arsenal XI: Leno, Chambers (Tavares 81), White, Mari, Tierney, Sambi Lokonga, Xhaka, Pepe, Smith Rowe, Martinelli (Nelson 71), Balogun (Saka 59)

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  1. @Bryan
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    How come Digne fell out of so many teams in the last week? Kinda feel like I fell asleep on the bus, missed my stop and just woke up alone on bit on a Friday night cold and confused!

    Was it that pre-season game vs utd or something else? My logic on him is that pre-season is for fitness and he has a good run of fixtures and the manager knows how to get a team defensively going and is pragmatic enough that he will play to the strength of the team which is crosses onto the head of DCL! Not expecting massive returns, but I'd be surprised if he is not on par with Shaw who I think whilst I own him, is a bit mad that half the game is on as well as he could improve, but isn't historically a great FPL record.

    1. LoneWolf1989
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Something just seems off with Everton, I am avoiding them for first few weeks until I see how Benitez sets them up

      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I don't really understand this logic for Digne though. For any forwards or mids I agree with the reservation, but if anything Rafa's ethos will promote some more CS.

        1. LoneWolf1989
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          You may be right there just want to see if his attacking threat is nullified as there are players in same price bracket who will get cs and attacking returns

        2. @Bryan
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          My thinking is definitely if Everton is in a tough spot, Rafa will double down on the defense and try to eek out a few 1-0 wins and the like. Which for a defensive FPL option is fine and Digne may be involved in the few attacking returns.

          They could be crap of course, but I seem to recall similar concerns when he took over Chelsea. He ain't a bad manager though, even if some dislike the style!

          1. Oz lotto
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Chelsea are a club that demand something different since Abramovic. They want polish and shine.

          2. Eat my goal!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Didn’t look great against Utd where 70% of the players were playing their 1st minutes in preseason

            Of course it’s kind of irrelevant but it certainly made me have second thoughts

            The fact DCL is in the mix boosts him already

        3. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Digne isnt bought just for CS so its entirely relevant. Holgate is the only CS Everton option.

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I have him, if that's any consolation.

    3. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Everton lost 5 players to COVID-19 and Goodison may take time to gell.

      They were spluttering at the end of last season under the previous management too.

    4. Sanchit
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      - Not being on set pieces.
      - DCL and Richarlison possibly being out.
      - The situation with James Rodriguez.
      - Jordan Pickford.
      - Fixtures look good on paper but many don't expect a CS against Leeds and Brighton
      - Digne doesn't have a great historic record either. ( 120 points over the season despite playing a lot and getting assists)

      1. Poetry in motion
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        This. They have the worst starting keeper in the league and not very good defenders. Digne, while decent when attacking, is also not very good when defending and loves an "orange card" tackle. Wait and see for me how they will look under Rafa.

        1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Worst starting keeper until Arsenal sign Ramsdale anyway!

      2. Third Eye Vision
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        He takes some corners.
        DCL and Richi are not out.
        Not sure how James affects Digne.
        Pickford has been brilliant this year.
        Decent fixtures.
        Agreed - lack of CS last year. Hopefully that will improve.

        Just saying.

      3. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        1. He is still on a lot of set pieces
        2. Atleast 1 of the two or both should start
        3. James out really has no correlation with Digne tbh
        4. He has a good run for around 6 games. Perfect price point to swap to a chelsea/city defender when the clouds clear
        5. He has a great record when fit and in form and hopefully benitez means clean sheet will finally come too.

        He isn't the greatest fpl player in that world.. But well worth the risk for the first 6 games.

        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Posted without completing my thought process. James being out gives Digne higher pecking order on set pieces since they only have siggy to take them. Benitez is a wildcard.. If he improves their defense then 5.5 is a snip. If he makes them worst overall then a swap to stones/maguire/rudiger it is. Good risk/reward here. Bertrand is another who I was eyeing but chose Digne to start with due to Southampton at home. Let's see how it goes.

    5. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Digne is TAA 2.0

    6. DeathoftheParty
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I've got him... Look for that haul...

    7. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      People placed a lot of weight on the Man Utd game.

      But with James and Siggy out and DCL and Richarlison fit, then I think Digne has some upside this GW.

      Everton are fundamentally an average PL team. They will score about 50 goals and let in about 50 goals. So I would not expect Digne to match Shaw, but I could see him doing well over some periods of favourable fixtures.

    8. Budweiser
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      The United game put me off and I've had him before where he doesn't justify his price tag

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Basically this. And we have to add all those concerns mentioned here. He didn't have all the set pieces as was expected. And he is also capable to get RC (haven't forgotten, I got his negative pts once). So as they had in Black Box lessons learned, there was mention to avoid teams with transition. So for me there were too many warning signs to take the gamble with him. Shaw at 5.5 or Stones later at same price are probably safer bets.

  2. LoneWolf1989
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Lot of knee jerk reactions on Toneys performance, first game of the season, he looked decent and tried to make things happen. I will be keeping him for the foreseeable as I think he will more then justify his price tag.

    1. Mario Balofail
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Well, I can see people selling Mr. White than Toney.

      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Selling Toney in a side that have the capacity to create the chances they did is laughable.

        1. LoneWolf1989
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          It’s madness to make any panic decisions first few weeks IMO, people need to hold as next week if he scores I guarantee a large majority of those who sold him will scramble for him back.

          1. Oz lotto
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            I think transfers based on performance after just one game in the GW is stupid no matter who it is. Say someone gets suspended? or gets injured? then what.

        2. Mario Balofail
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I was just mocking those who knee jerk every time something unusual (Brentford beating Arsenal) happen.
          And I agree. It was a very lively performance Brentford has showed. No need to sell.

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Get yourself double jabbed mate

            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Works better as a response to Sanchez

            2. Mario Balofail
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Actually I am double jabbed 😉

        3. bunk_medal
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          This is a bit of a straw man argument - e.g. I can see a case for saying Mbeumo, who is a million cheaper and listed as a mid, might be a better choice than Toney if you want to take someone from Brentford. To me it was very obvious that Brentford set up tactically last night to have Mbeumo as the most advanced player and use his pace to stretch Arsenal's defence.

      2. DeathoftheParty
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        This

    2. Oz lotto
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      He looked very very solid, created plenty and was in good areas. Just wait until the chances drop at his feet; of which he had 0 this week.

      1. Sanchit
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        This is why I hate statistics in football. You can bend them any way you want.
        A Toney seller would say, HE DIDN'T EVEN TAKE A SHOT.
        Whereas you are portraying the same stat as : ' He didn't get any chances, if he did he would have scored '

      2. Sanchit
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        You're making it sound like getting 0 shots is a a positive

        1. Oz lotto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          this is exactly what I am saying. There would be games where Drogba, RVP, Kane, Bale had 0 shots... role + potential is there.

    3. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      He’s been brought in by more than sold, albeit early days

      I’m sure there is going to be some hype player to attract sales and purchases before the gw is done

      1. Rassi
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, someone like Pascal Gross.

    4. Dash444
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Given Man of the Match (3 bonus points) by Sky.

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Kante gets that sometimes too

    5. Egg noodle
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Everyone's doing Toney > Pukki tonight. U heard it here first

    6. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not an owner but thought he looked very good, certainly wouldn’t be selling!

    7. MJF
        4 years, 8 months ago

        You love to see it when folk waste transfers based on little to nothing.

    8. Johan Cryuff
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone that can help me with Ville Ronka team id ? TIA..

      1. Pukki Party
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Apparently not playing, or changed name.

      2. Defcons are for Kinnear
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        The causal missed the deadline

    9. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Stuart Dallas to prove all the doubters wrong today?

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        You spelt Raphinha wrong.

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          He doesn’t have doubters

      2. pieces
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        No longer OOP is the main problem for me

        1. Dash444
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Bizarrely he could be OOP playing defence instead of Midfield.

          1. Carlton P
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            POO

      3. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        He is a class act, wouldn't be proving me wrong. just not a sound investment given no more CS and less points for attacking returns.

        1. Oz lotto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          48 points from CS last season... would have been just 12 if he was a mid.

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            True, 8G still decent though

            1. St Pauli Walnuts
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Less likely to get them though if he is played reverse OOP

          2. lespaul
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            And 1 point less for each goal

    10. LangerznMash
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Has the FPL stats price predictor site changed it's format?
      I'm sure it used to show total transfers in & out, and also a column for likeliness to change price.

      1. Pukki Party
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Likeliness is "target" column, only shows "delta" which is how many more transfers in over transfers out or vice versa a player needs to drop/rise.

        1. LangerznMash
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          So it will take another 155k to transfer out Kane for him to drop £0.1m in value?

      2. pieces
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I've always felt that FISO crack the code was a better option for price changes

        1. LangerznMash
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers just looking at this site now.
          Weird that is suggests that Mane is the most likely player to drop in price?

          1. pieces
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Always a bit all over the place initially

    11. The Frenchie
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Thought on this team?

      Meslier
      Shaw - Coufal - Tsimikas
      Salah - Bruno - Grealish - Benrahma - Mbeumo
      Lukaku - Bamford

      Foster - White - Amartey - Obafemi

      1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Too many uncertainties for my liking (Timi, Amartey and Obafemi). You might end up without a bench.

      2. Egg noodle
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Prefer Mahrez over Grealish personally.

      3. Weeb Kakashi
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        WC?

      4. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        No better or worse than it was yesterday

        1. Oz lotto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          lol

    12. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Why isn't Toney spelt as Tony?

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Because his surname isnt Tony.

        1. Defcons are for Kinnear
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          But it's pronounced Tony

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Are you scouse?

            1. Defcons are for Kinnear
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Why?

              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Stevy Gerhard, its a gaem ov to harves

                1. Defcons are for Kinnear
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  I've lost you. Nevertheless it is good to have someone to talk to. #Kolarov

                  1. Ginkapo FPL
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 8 months ago

                    My point is that not every accent pronounces Tony the same way so there is no way that Toney is pronounced as Tony in every accent. If spelling was based solely on sound then every word would have multiple spellings

      2. Egg noodle
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Why does my dog bark the entire time while taking a poop?

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          He/she would like privacy

      3. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Valid question.

      4. Zalk
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Because it's a surname and not a first name

    13. Mreidfelt
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      You have the best name I have seen so far lol

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thankyou

        1. Marvin.
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          You're on form this morning.

    14. Mreidfelt
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Because you probably had Ben White or esr in your team...

      If he barks excessively you had both and felt good about it lol

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        See where it says 'Reply' in the bottom right hand corner?

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Yes

        2. pieces
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          😀

        3. FPL Joker
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Ha ha ha, the guy is struggling. He must be about 80.

          1. St Pauli Walnuts
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Get off my lawn!

        4. Mreidfelt
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Wild Rover I see the reply button...what does reply mean?

          I have it...

          R= Resist
          E= Esr
          P= Pepe
          L= Lacazette
          Y= Because I said so

          Lol

    15. fc_skrald
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      What is this Broadcaster League (Viaplay League) I apparently have joined? - I dont remember to have accepted this?

      1. Joey Tribbiani
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Its an official FPL league for us Finnish, Swedish and Danish people.

        1. fc_skrald
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Thanks. I don't even watch any matches in the television - only if I am at a bar or at friends:-)

    16. Timmy Trumpet
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Toney owners selling?

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, he's been crap all season 🙄

        1. Timmy Trumpet
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Correct.

      2. fc_skrald
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        no

      3. Gomolon
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        No way

      4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        More like Timmy Clampet

      5. Cok3y5murf
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Hopefully they all keep him

      6. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I’d sell my mother first*

        *read mother-in-law ….

      7. El Presidente
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yep

      8. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        no but want others to get rid of him

    17. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone else disappointed not to wake up to, 'FPL community SHOCKED by lack of goals for Ben White'?

      1. FPL Joker
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Arsenal fans are deluded

    18. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Hahahaha... There are some mad people playing this game. OR 1 triple captained Canos. How can someone just do that if he doesn’t have more than 1 team or he is just a mad man tbh

      Wonders never cease 😆

      1. Flaming Flamingo
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        You answered your own question I think, they almost certainly have multiple teams

        1. PartyTime
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          OR 2 triple captained Pinnock 😆

          1. Flaming Flamingo
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Can't say I didn't consider it myself

            1. PartyTime
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              I just don’t get the fun in having more than 1 fpl team. It just doesn’t feel right but I know for some this game is everything & they want to win something

              1. El Presidente
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Yeah, it's clearly unprofessional and apparently nor permitted either

        2. @persecuted_by_mods
            4 years, 8 months ago

            I saw a guy with like 20 teams all named his name (which I can't recall) and then the number. 1-20, I wouldn't normally care but it was so many so I reported it to fpl and they did... Absolutely nothing! They prefer having the big number of players

            1. PartyTime
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              People are going in hard. I can see a lot of Egyptians/ Arabs already on top. These guys aren’t messing around... I bet many even triple captained Salah

            2. Mreidfelt
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Sad but true as Metallica sang...

        3. pieces
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          6 players in last nights game and triple capt WTF 😮

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            They are no. 1 and you never will be. Who is the real winner here?

        4. lilmessipran
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Wait till Tsimikas triple captainers lead gw1 scores

        5. MJF
            4 years, 8 months ago

            They probably entered 500 teams and that one happened to be the one which hit the jackpot.

        6. FPL Joker
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Who to play?:

          A) Gray (Leeds Away)
          B) Barnes (WH Away)
          C) Toney (CP Away)
          D) Digne (Leeds Away)
          E) Bertrand (WH Away)

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Based on the single data point we have, Sell Toney, Bench Bertrand, Avoid Digne

          2. Greasy Grealish Gang
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            C) Toney for me. But best to keep an eye on the other performances first

          3. FPL Joker
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Cheers

        7. Weeb Kakashi
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          How did some of the "pros" end up with double city midfielders in the last moment?

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              4 years, 8 months ago

              They transferred them in

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  Sorry Ginkapo, had to say it before you did

                  1. Ginkapo FPL
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 8 months ago

                    🙂

              2. FPL Joker
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Trolled us all

              3. Botman and Robben
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                They never show their real hand.

              4. Greasy Grealish Gang
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                The Pep Roulette is getting contagious

              5. lilmessipran
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Probably saw Mark's latest draft with double City mids and decided to do something similar.

                1. Zimo
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  He did say he was doing it to have something risky and different because he promised himself he would if he got Bruno. Doesnt really seem like a strategy.

              6. Defcons are for Kinnear
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                City have 3 easy fixtures to start with

              7. MJF
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  Panic?

                • Warby84
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  ‘Pros’ haha

                • El Presidente
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  Because they're not pros?

              8. It’s gonna Ben Mee
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Will Lukaku be ready for the demolition of Arsenal next GW? Very tempting

                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                    4 years, 8 months ago

                    Almost certainly, Chelsea even have a midweek friendly don't they

                    1. Ginkapo FPL
                      • 14 Years
                      4 years, 8 months ago

                      Tomorrow I think

                  • Botman and Robben
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 8 months ago

                    I think so. But that would be a -4 for me to get him.

                    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
                      • 12 Years
                      4 years, 8 months ago

                      Yeah, that’s the tricky part. Might be worth it though.

                  • lilmessipran
                    • 13 Years
                    4 years, 8 months ago

                    Should see some minutes I'd say..whether it's off the bench or starting 11 is anyone's guess at this point

                  • Nate(U)dog(ie)
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 8 months ago

                    I wanted to wait until after Villa's good fixtures passed to move Ings to him but tempted to do it after last night

                2. Jdpz
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  I did White to Ayling 1 hour before start a season. Good decision. Arsenal is very poor.

                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      4 years, 8 months ago

                      What if ayling loses 10-0 today

                      1. Jdpz
                        • 6 Years
                        4 years, 8 months ago

                        He is on my bench.

                        1. @persecuted_by_mods
                            4 years, 8 months ago

                            Wouldn't white have been?

                            1. Jdpz
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              He would be, but more people have White, and his price is likely to come down soon.

                          • Tinkermania
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 8 months ago

                            Are you assuming White will get 1 point every week and Ayling more?

                            1. Jdpz
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              No, Arsenal will likely concede a goal in the next two games and I assume White's price will go down. Ayling has better fixture from 5 gw and he will good rotate.

                              1. ritzyd
                                • 8 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Anyone with white didnt buy him for the first 3 gameweeks but for their run thereafter so the more ppl that sell before then the better

                                1. Jdpz
                                  • 6 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  12567 players just sold him.

                        2. MJF
                            4 years, 8 months ago

                            Is he just facing United on his own?

                            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                In fpl terms and his points, yes

                        3. Timmy Trumpet
                          • 4 Years
                          4 years, 8 months ago

                          First season playing but think I’ve got a pretty good team. Thoughts?

                          Sanchez
                          TAA Shaw Digne
                          Salah Mahrez Jota Gundogan
                          Ings Bamford Antonio

                          Steele Brownhill Veltman Livramento

                          1. Piggs Boson
                            • 14 Years
                            4 years, 8 months ago

                            Solid team!

                            Don't see the appeal in Jota tbh. Firmino looked good in preseason, so he won't be far off a start. Mane Firmino Salah still the preferred front 3 surely?

                            Love Gundog. Have him myself. I think he's a top differential. City's system means the 8s are the ones getting forwards, with the fullbacks coming narrow, so I think Gundog will do well.

                            1. Ginkapo FPL
                              • 14 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Firmino is playing for Brazil gw4 fyi

                              1. Piggs Boson
                                • 14 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Oh interesting, missed that nugget of info. Just the one game though?

                                1. Ginkapo FPL
                                  • 14 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Gw4 clashes, others depend on covid travel rules

                            2. Timmy Trumpet
                              • 4 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Thank you. Jota is a punt but if he bangs against norwich and or Burnley he will be hard to drop. With so many going Tsimikas they will be unable to get him. A good differential imo, but I do acknowledge the risk.

                              1. MJF
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  You don’t speak like someone who’s playing for the first time.

                                  1. Subzero (-4)
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 11 Years
                                    4 years, 8 months ago

                                    Exactly what I thought lol. Imposter 😉

                            3. Ginkapo FPL
                              • 14 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              I wished you'd asked me yesterday.

                            4. lilmessipran
                              • 13 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Overbudget?

                              1. lilmessipran
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Nevermind

                              2. Timmy Trumpet
                                • 4 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Nah.. fail to see any value in Bruno without captaincy. He was pretty poor back end of last season

                                1. Piggs Boson
                                  • 14 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Just tired I think. That happened at the end of his first season too.

                                  I think he's a good captain for GWs 3 and 4, plus the good fixtures surrounding should inflate his returns and make him good value.

                                  We'll see though. Glad to be back 🙂

                          2. Nightcrawler
                            • 6 Years
                            4 years, 8 months ago

                            Bench Boost fail start with Toney and ESR but we MOVE!

                            Would LOVE to see some points today oh yes i will!

                            1. The Knights Template
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              We crawl more like it.

                              1. OverTinker
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                😀

                            2. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
                              • 14 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              We stagger and stumble like the aftermath of a night jousting, wenching and mead swigging ….

                              1. The Knights Template
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                But we always keep our helmet on.

                          3. Christina.
                            • 16 Years
                            4 years, 8 months ago

                            Where do all these stupid posts come from this morning?

                            1. C'mon the Fylde
                              • 10 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              This one's from you.

                            2. Ginkapo FPL
                              • 14 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Me

                            3. Defcons are for Kinnear
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Old timers returning

                            4. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
                              • 14 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Like we’ve never been away …

                            5. El Presidente
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              They come from people writing them

                          4. C'mon the Fylde
                            • 10 Years
                            4 years, 8 months ago

                            Just looked at the highest FPL points tally, from last night.

                            Someone triple-captained Canos.
                            Crazy!

                            1. g40steve
                              • 8 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Egyptian as always?

                              1. g40steve
                                • 8 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Fpl had 8m players last year I bet half were one week wonders going for one off week points?

                              2. Defcons are for Kinnear
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Racism

                                1. MJF
                                    4 years, 8 months ago

                                    It’s true though, they were Egyptian.

                                    1. Defcons are for Kinnear
                                      • 12 Years
                                      4 years, 8 months ago

                                      Maybe they identify as Italian

                                      1. Defcons are for Kinnear
                                        • 12 Years
                                        4 years, 8 months ago

                                        Ignore me

                              3. The Knights Template
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                It was Captain Hindsight.

                              4. Domo
                                • 6 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Maybe it was a timetraveler who knew the GW1 scores 😀

                              5. Lingard’s Shin Guards
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Something will go right when you have 100 teams

                                1. Ginkapo FPL
                                  • 14 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  I'm a step ahead, I have 5 monkeys with typewriters

                              6. DA Minnion (Former great)
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                If you have over 6 million playing someone is going to strike it lucky.

                            2. Jdpz
                              • 6 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Rico Henry is interesting player. He is 4.5 defender who play as winger. Will he assist?

                              1. The Knights Template
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Depends on the nature of the problem.

                            3. g40steve
                              • 8 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Hoping the players I don’t own stay quiet so I can bank a transfer 🙂
                              Not likely me thinks ?

                              1. The Knights Template
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Breadbin?

                            4. Howe-way the lads
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 7 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Could someone help me with a rules question please? I run a mini league with cash prizes for manager of the month. Most points in that month. I’m sure it’s always been if a game week runs over 2 months, main FF site count all the points for that round in the month the gameweek started in. Is that still the case when you use the drop down for certain months?
                              For example gameweek 14 there are some matches November 30th and some December 1st, would all points be counted in the November total when using month drop down on the site?
                              Thanks in advance

                              1. Joey Tribbiani
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                all gw14 games are counted in November total

                                1. Howe-way the lads
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 7 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Though it worked like that, thank you. Just wanted confirmation before advertising the prize fund & letting them know that. Thank you 🙂

                              2. Ginkapo FPL
                                • 14 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Hits in the first week of the month arent counted

                            5. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
                              • 14 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              90% template … how are others looking? Despite this I’m not going to let it hamper the opening Saturday …. May we all be showered with goals and assists!

                              1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
                                • 11 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                56%

                              2. The Knights Template
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                'Template' 'hamper' what on earth are you babbling about?

                                1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
                                  • 14 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  From the angle of every point my beige teams gets 5m other people get …. But Goals are goals and I am happy to share them … I’m the caring sharing type and want to feast with the masses…

                              3. pundit of punts
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                86%

                                Way to template for my liking

                                1. The Knights Template
                                  • 12 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Change name to Temple of Template!

                              4. Defcons are for Kinnear
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                My team is 100% template. That allows my to join in with all the celebrations on here

                              5. Cok3y5murf
                                • 9 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                89%. Actually disgusted

                                1. Rupert The Horse
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Haha

                              6. DA Minnion (Former great)
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Same here.

                            6. Thanos
                              • 4 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Does Lukaku up top makes Havertz a better pick or vice versa? Think at 3.0 less, Havertz can be better value.

                              Thoughts?

                              1. Defcons are for Kinnear
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                I think better option if he starts which I think he will. Lukaku will attract the attention of CBs allowing Havertz to exploit the spaces

                                1. Thanos
                                  • 4 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Exactly. Think Havertz would be both among goals and assist. Can see Havertz being the Hazard of yester years.

                                2. FantasyClub
                                  • 5 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  It’s funny how you guys are trying to convince yourselves, Lukaku will be a goal scoring machine period. That’s what he was brought in for lol
                                  Chelsea didn’t pay that much for him so he can come in and just do what Werner already does

                              2. diesel001
                                • 9 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Depends on whether he starts. Personally would prefer to see Chelsea play 3-4-3 as follows, with Havertz as backup to Lukaku.

                                Mendy
                                Azpi Silva Rudiger
                                James Jorginho Kante Chilwell
                                Mount Werner
                                Lukaku

                                1. Thanos
                                  • 4 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Just think Havertz makes that team stronger. But definitely need to see how Tuchel plays his roulette.

                              3. Piggs Boson
                                • 14 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                3 attacking slots at Chelsea; Lukaku and Mount should be nailed, so that leaves just one slot for Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, and Ziyech to fight over.

                                I think it makes Havertz much worse because he might not play some games now.

                                1. Thanos
                                  • 4 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Interesting, I would be surprised if Havertz gets more rotated especially after his performances at CL and SC. Think he can form a deadly partnership with Kaku.

                                  1. Ginkapo FPL
                                    • 14 Years
                                    4 years, 8 months ago

                                    I think it will depend on tactics and Werner might become the flat track bully rather than Havertz

                                  2. Piggs Boson
                                    • 14 Years
                                    4 years, 8 months ago

                                    I think Tuchel might prefer Werner's pace in some games.

                                    Different tools for different jobs.

                                2. Ginkapo FPL
                                  • 14 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Pulisic played at wing back in preseason so might not be competing

                              4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                • 16 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Need to see what Tuchel intends for havertz first

                                At this point we have a situation where he's only started him in 7 of 19 league games, and 11 of the last 20 in all comps

                                He has rotated him for some massive cup matches too (Madrid champs lge, City FA Cup, FA Cup final etc)

                                Need to see him starting 5 of the first 6 league games before progressing onto whether he's a good pick or not for GW7

                                1. Thanos
                                  • 4 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  That's true of last season. Kaku is better finisher than Werner and he would need a strong attack minded partner and can see Havertz as the perfect pick for that.

                                  But I agree that it's a wait and watch for now. Just too much talent at disposal for Tuchel. Maybe fantasy wise not a great thing as points get shared among many.

                              5. Zimo
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                He'll be rotated even more than he already does.

                                1. Thanos
                                  • 4 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Yeah, wait and watch

                            7. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
                              • 8 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Imagine waking up with a hangover and find you own White, Auba and Toney.#

                              1. Rupert The Horse
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                I don’t want to feel that stupid.

                              2. Botman and Robben
                                • 9 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                You just resume drinking.

                            8. FPL Virgin
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              ZERO goal attempts from Toney last night.

                              Is he this season's Mitro (who at least had lots of headed goal attempts)?

                              1. Rupert The Horse
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 13 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Nah.

                              2. Ginkapo FPL
                                • 14 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Go read the previous posts

                                1. Rupert The Horse
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  That’s not trendy.

                              3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                • 16 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Mitro got 4returns and 6 baps in his first 6 starts last season before injury destroyed his (and therefore fulhams) season

                              4. Cok3y5murf
                                • 9 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Harsh on Mitro

                              5. Piggs Boson
                                • 14 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Didn't see the game, but from the highlights it looked like Arsenal played a high line, right? Looked end to end. I think that favours someone like Mbeumo, who can get in behind with pace.

                                I think Toney will thrive against the deeper defences.

                                1. Ginkapo FPL
                                  • 14 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Toney was clearly asked to track back and was crowded out by Arsenal. The only decent defending they did was on him, ignored Mbuemo

                                2. FPL Virgin
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Good point, but who will sit deep against a promoted championship side?

                                3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                  • 16 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  He still could have double returned on another night with the assist for Mbuemo, the ghost assist for norgaard, and Mbuemo not picking him out when he shot wide instead

                                  And I noticed he did make several darts across both white & Mari gambling on crosses that never came in

                                  That's the first time I've seen him play 90 mind & was very impressed - he definitely has a football brain too go with the ridiculous power & aerial ability

                                  1. FPL Virgin
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    4 years, 8 months ago

                                    Fair point. I need to see MOTD tonight to see if he had any near misses that wouldn't register in the stats.

                                    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                      • 16 Years
                                      4 years, 8 months ago

                                      You might not even get that much from MOTD depending on what way they cut it - there’s no substitute for just watching the guy (and the team) for 90 mins

                                      Stats are even harder to discern anything of value from over 90 mins

                              6. Nate(U)dog(ie)
                                • 5 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                No, he didn't really play as a striker last night, he was all over the pitch holding the ball up, winning aerial duels and putting in tackles and blocks even. Even then he still put Mbeumo through with a nice flick for a decent chance. Brentford are missing a few players and seems like Frank wanted him to drop deep for a different role last night but he do thar every week. I don't have him even with no shots his performance made me consider him more.

                                1. FPL Virgin
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Any decent FPL striker needs a high volume of goal attempts. Trust me on this. If he doesn't start shooting soon, he needs to go.

                                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                    • 16 Years
                                    4 years, 8 months ago

                                    Stating the obvious - but the best thing that can happen for Toney and Brentford is 3 points against palace to take the pressure off them & allow them relax into the season a bit - even if Toney isn’t involved again

                                    If they’re sitting on 6 points after two games, “only“ needing another 30 or so points from their next 36 games they can only get better - and they were already great last night

                                    Frank can easily go through the video analysis with them on Monday and point out where Toney made the runs that weren’t found, that’s very easy to fix once they can relax a bit more

                                    Thoroughly enjoyed watching them & consider me a new honorary Brentford (and Frank, and Toney) fan

                                    1. Andy_Social
                                      • 13 Years
                                      4 years, 8 months ago

                                      They didn't just win a game; they were entertaining. I can see a 'second-favourite team' syndrome settling is pretty quickly.

                                      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                                        • 16 Years
                                        4 years, 8 months ago

                                        Yup - Frank comes across as a complete legend too

                                        One of (if not *THE*) highlights of the game was his very deliberate gee’ing up of the crowd at after Pinnock repeatedly physically dominated/(made an absolute idiot out of) Tavares shortly after he came on

                                        He just seems very tuned into how to build & capitalise on momentum, so important for a newly promoted side

                              7. Zimo
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Maybe he plays differently against lower half teams like Palace next week but if he plays deep like he did here then he's not gonna be worth it for fpl no matter how good his link up play is. Also it's not like the Arsenal team was any good so people saying Brentford looked good doesn't matter much while facing such a shoddy defence and an attack filled with 20 year olds.

                                1. Zimo
                                  • 7 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Having said that I don't expect him to play like this against Palace so we'll find out if he's worth it next week.

                              8. GENERATION X
                                • 12 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                For 6.5 personally happy with the eye test and all that data of one game to work with.

                            9. Botman and Robben
                              • 9 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Some guy is already on 47 points for the GW. TC Canós. Must be some betting game these guys play.

                              1. Ginkapo FPL
                                • 14 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                That isnt just 'some guy', thats the world no. 1 you are talking about. Show some respect

                                1. Botman and Robben
                                  • 9 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  Oops my bad. 😀

                                2. G-Whizz
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • Has Moderation Rights
                                  • 8 Years
                                  4 years, 8 months ago

                                  😆

                              2. Drexl Spivey
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Top two are Middle-eastern Villa fans.

                                What are the chances?

                              3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 15 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                the automation bots in effect to get a #1 rank

                            10. Defcons are for Kinnear
                              • 12 Years
                              4 years, 8 months ago

                              Do you think Arsenal will get promoted from the Championship on the first time of asking?

                              1. Zimo
                                • 7 Years
                                4 years, 8 months ago

                                Bournemouth will have em beat