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Eight more Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players could be stopped from featuring in Gameweek 4.

Raphinha (£6.5m), Fabinho (£5.4m), Roberto Firmino (£8.8m), Alisson (£6.0m), Ederson (£6.0m), Gabriel Jesus (£8.6m), Thiago Silva (£5.4m) and Fred (£5.0m) may all miss out this weekend as a consequence of their non-involvement with Brazil over the international break.

That’s because, under FIFA law, players not released to their respective countries can be banned for five days after the international window ends – and that period spans September 10-14 in this case, which includes Gameweek 4.

Those sanctions will only occur if a national football association requests FIFA to invoke them, something the Brazilian FA have done this afternoon.

Curiously, though, the BBC reports that Brazil have not asked for Everton’s Richarlison (£7.5m) to be prevented from featuring against Burnley on Monday night in an act of goodwill, as the Toffees previously allowed their forward to be called up for Olympic Games duties when not obliged to do so.

The football federations of Mexico, Paraguay and Chile have also asked for punishment to be meted out, meaning that Raul Jimenez (£7.4m), Miguel Almiron (£5.4m) and Francisco Sierralta (£4.4m) may not be allowed to play this weekend.

We’ve yet to have an official response from the Premier League or the clubs affected, and we’ll bring you more news on this as and when we get it.

Anyone travelling to a red-list country faces quarantine for 10 full days in a managed hotel on their return to the UK, and Premier League players are no exception.

As far as we’re aware, there are only five such FPL assets that fall into this category in the September international break.

Emiliano Martinez (£5.5m), Emiliano Buendia (£6.4m), Davinson Sanchez (£4.5m), Giovani Lo Celso (£5.9m) and Cristian Romero (£4.9m) had all previously been given permission by their clubs to head to South America and all of them will miss Gameweek 4 as a result.

The quintet are available for their countries’ first two World Cup qualifying matches but will not take part in the third international fixture – meaning that their quarantine periods will have ended by the time Gameweek 5 comes around.

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  1. Weak Become Heros
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    So, this is good news for Jota. I think I’ll bring him in, although the fact that Firmino is being caught up in this makes you led to believe he would have been fit enough to travel.

    1. DannyDrinkVodka
      5 years, 1 month ago

      hmmmmm, my thoughts exactly - I think Torres is now the one to get

  2. Imer Naj Neslin
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know where I can find fantasy match data from previous seasons matches?

    Example: who got the bonus pts and how many bonus pts did the players score in the matches between Chelsea and Liverpool last year.

  3. Threat Level Midnight
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Bottomed last page

    Contemplating just going Richarlson for the week as a placeholder for Jimmy...

    Thoughts?

    1. CAPA
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Is Jiminez a risk of not playing - he's not Brazilian?

      1. Threat Level Midnight
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Supposedly he's already been banned. Saw it on a BBC article.

        1. CAPA
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Oh dear, I only brought him in last night (:

          1. ksmith5666
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Reports are that the Mexican FA have requested that their players who did not travel are banned for 5 days from the end of the international window. Not confirmed yet though.

  4. Karan_G14
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Assuming Raphinha is banned & DCL is injured
    Thoughts on these moves for -8?

    Out: Tsimikas, Bruno & DCL
    In: Semedo, Jota & Ronaldo

    Bench: Raphinha - Ayling - Scarlett

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Im fine with the moves being I have those 3 in my wildcard. But once you hit -8, I would be tempted to consider wildcarding. Do you have any other things that are needed?

      1. Karan_G14
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Not at all in fact I have a great team outside of this...

        Dont want to sell Sanchez, TAA, Shaw, White, Ayling, Salah, Greenwood, Benrahama, Raphinha or Antonio.

  5. stewoolley
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Sanchez
    TAA Semedo White
    Jota Salah Torres Traore
    CR7 DCL Antonio

    Torres > Raphina next week
    Opinions?

    1. DannyDrinkVodka
      5 years, 1 month ago

      why would you book a transfer to drop Torres before Southampton at home?

      1. stewoolley
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I’m still uncertain, I like the look of Torres long term but concerned for minutes.

        Also like the look of Leeds fixtures. Think I’m going to leave Torres in and ditch him if he gets dropped.

  6. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Technically they'd have had to quarantine on entry into Brazil anyhow so none of this stacks up or makes sense in the real world.

    1. jason_ni
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Id not be surprised had the Brazilian "health authorities" deemed that Brazilians coming into the country from UK would have been deemed fine without quarantine, but any non Brazilian (ie Argentines) would have needed 14 days from entering the country.

      Also, the whole thing with the Argentines going to Croatia first on the way back to the UK to avoid the isolation rules just makes no sense. So what, you land in croatia for 2 days, and now you are ok to enter the UK and not quarantine?!

      If that was the case, could they not have done that on the way out to Brazil? There is a lot of bureaucracy going on with this!

      1. Antonionio
        5 years, 1 month ago

        The Argentines are staying in Croatia for 10 days (missing GW4) to avoid having to isolate when returning to the UK.

        The key difference is that for those 10 days in Croatia they can train together, before being able to return to the UK and reintegrate with the rest of the squad. If they came directly back to the UK then they would have to isolate on arrival so would not be able to train (therefore missing GWs 4 + 5 to get back to match fitness).

        1. jason_ni
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Ok that makes a bit more sense, but even so, them going to croatia, they can train the 4 of them, yes its slightly better than solo training, but could they not be trusted to keep training on their own for the 10 days if they were to come back to the UK in the first place?

          From different teams so not likely to be any tactical training in croatia, its just them doing to physical training, nothing they couldn't do on there own, other than it being a bit more fun to have some company while doing it.

  7. Ze_Austin
    5 years, 1 month ago

    With the amount of life-changing money available in top-tier football these days, loyalty means nothing

    Any country that finds itself forcing players to choose between 2/4-year-interval trophy chances and the certainty of millions in Europe is in denial, blind, or self-sabotaging. Maybe a combination of those three

    They are starting a fight they simply cannot win. Clubs can add certain clauses to player contracts going forward, and the FA's will see if those Maradona and Pele days still exist

    I mean, Ronaldo and Messi haven't won the World Cup, but are constantly in the "greatest ever" conversation. It's not even needed for glory anymore

  8. The Big Fella
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Does anybody know what DCL's injury status is?

    1. Karan_G14
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No news yet.

  9. Stranger Mings
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Hi guys thoughts please 1, if Jesus can’t play GW4 this increases chances Torres plays? 2, salah will be ok to play GW4?

    1. DannyDrinkVodka
      5 years, 1 month ago

      absolutely, Torres is now ahead of Jota for Bruno replacement

      1. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Hmm, Mahrez usually plays on the wing.

        Plus Torres could be rested for the UCL. I pick Jota over Torres.

        1. DannyDrinkVodka
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Who plays upfront if Jesus is out?

          1. Cruyff's Eleven
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Sterling

            1. DannyDrinkVodka
              5 years, 1 month ago

              Nah, it will be Torres

              1. Cruyff's Eleven
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                5 years, 1 month ago

                I wish I could read Pep, but I can't.

                Bans, UCL, players return to fitness.... It's anyone's guess.

                Jota is nailed, just saying.

                1. DannyDrinkVodka
                  5 years, 1 month ago

                  You’re probably right……..but he may be nailed for just this GW

  10. Kodap
    5 years, 1 month ago

    With Jesus potentially out & DCL/raph also potentially not playing, on a wildcard do these moves make sense?

    DCL > Jimmy
    Raph > Jota

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      5 years, 1 month ago

      As of now Jimmy is out as well

  11. Threat Level Midnight
    5 years, 1 month ago

    I don't see these bans sticking whatsoever. The fact Richarlson is allowed to play due to "good faith", and others are not, will never hold up. Just my opinion

    1. Karan_G14
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Also apparently Raphinha himself decided not to go so the ban shouldn't hold for him.

    2. I Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Why? These are the rules. They were known before the international break started. It's not like FIFA have just come up with this out of nowhere.

      1. jesperdalagersuri
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        If Raphina himself made himself unavailable surely Fifa can't force him to play? That would constitute modern slavery. If indeed he did say he'd like to go it is a different matter.

    3. THE Wild Rover
      5 years, 1 month ago

      It would need FIFA to back down. If they don't and the clubs play the involved players, then they could be charged with fielding an ineligible player, which has potentially big consequences.

      1. Andy_Social
        5 years, 1 month ago

        What happens if any of the players announce they've retired from international football with immediate effect?

        1. Threat Level Midnight
          5 years, 1 month ago

          I love the Devil's Advocate response. I think they would be allowed to play instantly.

        2. jason_ni
          5 years, 1 month ago

          I'd say in this case, they would have needed to have declared the retirement prior to this window, and them getting selected in the squads.

        3. RN
          5 years, 1 month ago

          In 2006 or so Claude Makelele retired from the French national team but head coach at the time, Raymond Domenech (aka the flog), called him up anyway. Makelele was facing a two game suspension at Chelsea if he didn't go and play for France. Cut a long story short, Makelele came out of international retirement. I assume the rules have changed since then (?) but that's the way it worked back then........

          https://www.skysports.com/football/news/2388210/makelele-threatened-with-ban

      2. Karan_G14
        5 years, 1 month ago

        They say if clubs field ineligible players they would have to forfeit that match 3-0 but if Pool & Leeds field their representatives then they really cant do much as they face each other.

        1. Toonmad
          5 years, 1 month ago

          They would both get 0 points and minus 3 goals

          1. jason_ni
            5 years, 1 month ago

            So you're telling me, life savings on 0-0 in that match then?

            1. Jink
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              5 years, 1 month ago

              3-0 Each Way!

              1. jason_ni
                5 years, 1 month ago

                Cant find that option for scoreline 🙁

          2. Rogue Todd
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Exactly this

      3. jesperdalagersuri
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Since the premier league is a pirate breakaway league outside the FA, can the FA / UEFA / FIFA enforce any penalties? surely not points deductions? wouldn't all they can do be threaten them with penalties in European competitions? Since UEFA and FIFA are at loggerheads, to put it mindly, would UEFA even support FIFA in this? They don't want to be without their stars in the European leagues I'd assume. Just a thought.

    4. Joey Tribbiani
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I mean the dude has played non stop since start of last season, they should have not even called him up and given him a rest, so makes sense.

  12. DavvaMC
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Hi

    Would love some feedback as to a wildcard is needed for the below team?

    Bachmann

    TAA | Shaw | Veltman

    Benrahma | Salah | Bruno | Raph | Son

    Toney | Antonio

    Foster / White / Livaremento / Perica

    I would have to replace Son with Jota as it looks like Raph is missing GW4 and play 4 4 2 with White in the back 4 as well.

    Many thanks

  13. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Why is it saying "may miss the next game" and not "will"?

    I've got Raphinha and Jiminez. Obviously hoping they play but looks like Jimi definitely out, right?

    1. Gabbiadini
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Was going to trade Jimi in, makes things interesting if this is certain.

    2. No Kane No Gain
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Becuase the Brazilian players might appeal or whatever to stop the ban

  14. Gabbiadini
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Best mid 5.6 or under?

    1. Ze_Austin
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Gray

    2. Bobby Digital
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Gray Odegaard ESR

      1. Gabbiadini
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yes considering these options, I also quite like Rashica.

    3. Sanchit
      5 years, 1 month ago

      ESR

      1. Gabbiadini
        5 years, 1 month ago

        any rotational threats?

  15. McPollolocco
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Anything about the injury of Callum Wilson? Is he fit for saturday?

    1. Bobby Digital
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Doubtful. Latest is that he'll be out for a couple of weeks.

  16. Letsgo!
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Wow nice! Now jimmy also might not play gw4. Love this fpl

  17. Sharkytect
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Looks like I'll be needing Billy gilmour to step up and do that supersub thing of getting returns on the one week all my team are flagged.

    Who was that cheap midfielder who did that every time premium was ruled out a few years ago? Played for someone like Hull

    1. adams_6
      5 years, 1 month ago

      sUPER gEORGOE bOYD!

      1. adams_6
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Bloody caps lock
        Super Georgie Boyd!

        1. adams_6
          5 years, 1 month ago

          For Burnley

          1. Sharkytect
            5 years, 1 month ago

            That was the one!! Inexplicably scored goals precisely when coming in off the 3rd place on people's benches with 10 points to his name, 3-4 times over the season

            1. adams_6
              5 years, 1 month ago

              I bloody well loved him, ex Posh player, had to have him

  18. g40steve
    5 years, 1 month ago

    All these early wildcarders in tears

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Raph and Jimmy were the only two players viable?

      LOL

    2. jason_ni
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I mean they are on WC, and still do more moves!

      Its the ones who used the FT early and no plan to WC are more likely to be in tears.

    3. Yank Revolution
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not I! WC has allowed me to shed dead weight, improve bench and get CR7 baby!

  19. The Mantis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Is this WC g2g?

    Sanchez (Steele)
    TAA / Christensen / Marcal / Duffy (Williams)
    Salah / Torres / Traore (Allan / Gilmour)
    CR7 / Lukaku / Antonio

    I know defence is risky but that's the price to pay for 4 premiums. I may bring in White if he drops to 4.3

    1. Ze_Austin
      5 years, 1 month ago

      The problem with this team is that you might need a wildcard to get out of it

      1. The Mantis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I think I have plenty of downgrade options to prevent that

    2. Yank Revolution
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Ugh, that midfield...go for 3 premiums, max.

  20. Sanchit
    5 years, 1 month ago

    The disappointment is, all this will again happen in 3 weeks.

    1. Arteta
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Keeping WC for then makes so much sense. It could be worse than it is right now to be fair.

    2. Ze_Austin
      5 years, 1 month ago

      That's why I'll just roll with it and trust my bench. The missing guys (and that's if PL clubs don't find a way) weren't expected to haul this GW anyway. The main explosive guys this week are Salah, CR7, Lukaku, Kane, Son, Jota, TAA, Antonio, DCL, Greenwood, Shaw, Digne and MAYBE Tierney

      The fact that the international players are mostly fit and will be back by GW5 with full team training means the GW4 decision is down to Free Hit or nah, and I choose nah

      1. No Kane No Gain
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Digne lost his explosiveness a long time ago...

  21. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Someone needs to pass a brown envelope to Blatter under the table.

    1. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Hahaha, Blatter.
      He's in prison isn't he.. For exactly that - too many discrete packages?

      1. jason_ni
        5 years, 1 month ago

        He was framed. Aul Sepp was straight as a boomerang.

    2. Gunneryank
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I just love this username, laugh every time i see it.

      Good ole 'Arry.

  22. McSauce
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Is Jimenez now rumoured to be out?

    1. Threat Level Midnight
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    2. Khark
      5 years, 1 month ago

      afraid so, and almiron at newcastle but nobody cares about him

  23. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    I think it might be worth having a stronger bench than usual

    1. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Than last season you mean, with the pandemic and all that?

      oh, wait...

  24. The Mandalorian
    5 years, 1 month ago

    As of now no Brazilian players have been banned from playing in GW4. Enjoy the sunshine 🙂

    1. jason_ni
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Thats the opposite of what the current status is.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58486811

      They are all banned(aside from Richarlison), weather the clubs do something about it is the next question.

      1. Threat Level Midnight
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Premier league is involved as well. I expect it to be overruled or for Richarlson to be ruled out as well.

      2. The Mandalorian
        5 years, 1 month ago

        So if the players are banned why aren't they flagged as unavailable on FPL?
        Read the article properly instead of cherry picking sentences to fit your panic fueled agenda.

        1. Khark
          5 years, 1 month ago

          I've read the article, and yes they have been banned but it's being challenged by the clubs. Nobody knows whether this appeal process will be successful, and as such the players can't be flagged yet. We will know more within the next 24/48hours.

          Agree, enjoy the sunshine worry about this sort of stuff on friday.

        2. jason_ni
          5 years, 1 month ago

          FPL is not the be all and end all of a players status for upcoming games, fpl status is down to some guy in an office deciding which players to update! And they are probably waiting to see what happens next, as its still early.

          Direct quote from the article

          "Eight Premier League players will be stopped from playing for their clubs this weekend after Brazilian football authorities triggered a Fifa rule to prevent them appearing."

          Thats pretty clear.

          I read the article, and what I said stands, at the moment they are banned, its up the clubs and PL to reach a work around, and there is no guarantee of that.

          Where are you getting that no brazilians have been banned? Are you just basing that on the fact that fpl haven't updated their status?

        3. Rio Angora Mohair
          5 years, 1 month ago

          They HAVE been banned by FIFA! But this is subject to appeal!!

  25. Sharkytect
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Have these bans ever been enforced before? Like when a club pretends their player is injured? Or any cases of a club just saying no (pre-covid times).

  26. Kalix
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Only Brazil could cancel a match...proving correct, all their players who didn't travel during Covid...

    To then immediately try and sanction those players for not travelling

  27. Lowkayina
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Well raphinha is my problem now

    1. Khark
      5 years, 1 month ago

      They played liverpool this week, not the end of the world.

      1. Rio Angora Mohair
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Result 1-5 😀

    2. Kalix
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Were you expecting more than 2 points this week anyway?

      I'm just going to let my bench player come on and save the transfer

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not when you look at fixtures from week 5. No big deal losing him for Liverpool

  28. wazzaaa
    5 years, 1 month ago

    is Benrahma at minute-risk after west ham strengthening their midfield with some good players

    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yes IMO, especially with Europe imminent

    2. Harry the Hack
      5 years, 1 month ago

      absolutely. Vlasic scored last night. But Benny probably plays the next match

  29. Lignja
    5 years, 1 month ago

    How is this plan look, 2ft

    Ings, Bruno, Tsimikas to Ronaldo, Jota, Coady (bench Raphina and play 442)

    Sanchez
    Taa, Shaw, White, Tsimikas, Amartey
    Salah, Bruno, Grealish, Benrahma, Raphina
    Ings, Antonio, 4.5

    1. Bobby Digital
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Tsimi out for Livra

    2. Bobby Digital
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Roll the other one