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23 June 2022 268 comments
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From the start of 2022/23, Premier League clubs will be allowed to make five substitutions per match.

We previously saw this rule temporarily brought into play at the back-end of 2019/20, when a Covid-interrupted campaign had to be played to a conclusion over the summer months.

Here we take a general look at what the overall impact could be on Fantasy Premier League (FPL) next season.

We’ll follow this up with a more focused club-by-club piece on the players who look the likeliest to avoid a withdrawal – and those who are most prone to being substituted.

READ MORE: Which FPL assets played the most minutes in 2021/22?

FIVE SUBSTITUTES: WHAT’S ALLOWED

→ Who was substituted off on more occasions (23) than any other player?

“Clubs will be permitted to use five substitutions, to be made on three occasions during a match, with an additional opportunity at half-time. A total of nine substitutes can be named on the teamsheet.” – Premier League statement

In short, managers can’t make substitutions on five different occasions in order to waste time.

The game can be stopped for substitutions on a maximum of six occasions (three per side), as was previously the case in 2021/22, with half-time offering an additional window for changes.

WHAT HAPPENED IN 2019/20

The five-substitutes rule ran for nine Gameweeks at the conclusion of the 2019/20 campaign.

Four teams – Manchester City, Arsenal, Aston Villa and Sheffield United – each had an extra fixture during the run-in, so contested 10 games in total.

Below, we look at what each Premier League manager did with their permitted allocation.

Managers highlighted in bold are still at the helm of a top-flight club in 2022/23.

TeamManagerSubstitutions madeGames playedAverage subs per gameNumber of times all five subs were used
BrightonGraham Potter4394.88
LiverpoolJurgen Klopp4294.77
NorwichDaniel Farke4294.76
ArsenalMikel Arteta45104.55
BournemouthEddie Howe3894.26
NewcastleSteve Bruce3894.24
Manchester UnitedOle Gunnar Solskjaer3794.15
Man CityPep Guardiola41104.14
EvertonCarlo Ancelotti3694.04
ChelseaFrank Lampard3694.02
Aston VillaDean Smith38103.81
LeicesterBrendan Rodgers3493.83
WatfordNigel Pearson/Hayden Mullins3293.61
SpursJose Mourinho3093.30
Sheffield UnitedChris Wilder32103.20
SouthamptonRalph Hasenhuttl2893.11
WolvesNuno Espirito Santo2893.11
Crystal PalaceRoy Hodgson2893.10
West HamDavid Moyes2793.01
BurnleySean Dyche1691.80

A total of nine Premier League managers from 2019/20 will still be in charge come Gameweek 1 of the upcoming season, with seven of them at the same clubs.

Four of the six most active head coaches are still in the managerial hotseat, with Graham Potter the most prolific tinkerer: the Brighton and Hove Albion boss averaged 4.8 changes per match from Gameweeks 30+ to 38+ of 2019/20.

Jurgen Klopp wasn’t far behind the Albion manager (4.7), with David Moyes relatively hands-off with an average of three alterations per game.


A CLOSER LOOK AT LIVERPOOL AND MAN CITY

There’ll be plenty of FPL investment in the top two in 2022/23, so it’s worth a quick look at these clubs in more focus.

Given that Liverpool had the league sewn up by Gameweek 31+ and City’s focus was on the latter stages of the Champions League, the above tables perhaps aren’t the best sample if we’re looking for clues for next season.

Despite having his focus on Europe, Guardiola was far from the most prolific tinkerer during this period (more of which below).

What he did do, however, was use the half-time window: a total of seven substitutes were made across three matches when City were coasting at 2-0 at the interval. A further 17 of his 41 changes were made in that uncomfortable 55th-to-65th-minute zone where we Fantasy managers are fretting over appearance points.

As for Jurgen Klopp, he was more prolific with his changes (averaging 4.7 per match) but only three of his 42 alterations came before the 60th-minute mark. One of those was enforced because of injury, while the other two were half-time substitutions after poor performances from Joe Gomez and Takumi Minamino.

NUMBER OF SUBSTITUTIONS MADE IN 2021/22

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  1. Brimble82
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 12 days ago

    This was a really interesting read and great content to put out, thanks FFS.
    It's reassuring as someone who is looking at loading up on defence to see that the impact on 5-subs didn't appear to massively impact defenders as much as those further forward (unsurprising, but good to have confirmed).
    Obviously those 'attacking' defenders (WB's etc) may be more at risk than our CBs, but still good to see relatively low subs made across those 'Premium WBs' (looking at the 2nd table of LIV/MCI comparison, focusing on TAA/Robbo and Walker/Cancelo - who were first choices in 19/20)

    1. Skonto Rigga
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      My pleasure, thanks for reading! I'll be taking a bit of a closer look at a few current managers in the next piece to see how the most popular defenders in particular may fare (eg Conte subbed a wing-back off on 30 occasions last season!).

      1. Brimble82
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        Hadn't clocked the author - but should've realised it was you SR.
        Big fan of your writing and analytical perspective.
        Look forward to a more in-depth article next time then.

        If I could be so bold... and I realise this would add work to the analysis, but it would be interesting to look at the 'minute subs were made' too.
        If only within 15min breakdowns.

        I think this would be interesting for two reasons;
        1. MIDs/FWDs; how many minutes are subs in getting to attack tired defences.
        2. DEFs; arguably more importantly, how often are managers subbing defenders pre-60! Because I'm actually fine with owning a defender who gets subbed after 65, banks a CS, and then often can score BAPs too if his tired teammates (or second string replacement) concede a late 89th min goal!

        I think it'd be an interesting analysis - but also realise there are only so many hours in the day!
        Keep up the great work

        1. Skonto Rigga
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          You've read my mind, Brimble! Unfortunately the substitute minutes data isn't easy to get from our Members Area but I briefly covered Liverpool/City above with some manual totting up! I'm going to take a bit of a closer look at withdrawal times in the next piece on a selection of managers (Pep, Klopp, Conte, Tuchel etc) to see what they did last season. It'll probably most cover the key assets, particularly wing-backs.

          Thanks for the kind words, btw, they're always much appreciated.

          1. Brimble82
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            I figured that data would be difficult to mine!
            Rather you than me 😉

            And yeah, I think all to often round here, we jump straight to the comments and ignore the content!
            Obviously 'we are a community' - and I hugely appreciate the comment section - but, I don't think we do enough of showing our appreciation.
            Anyway, enough of that... back to complaining about the game not being live yet!

            1. 11 smelly shirts
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 11 days ago

              I think it's really a huge grey area. Most likely you can only refer to Champions League for a realistic comparison. In Europe Leage and Conference League often the second teams play, so it's not that reliable for a comparison. And in CL most likely also different approaches during group stage and the knock out games.

              Didn't Pep say something like that people might think he will be a genius once there are five subs? Of course you never know if he was joking or serious, but it's one of the few references we got, right?

              Looking forward to what's going to happen this season

  2. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 12 days ago

    Price estimation for cancelo?

    Hard to see a reason why he shouldn’t be 7m really ?

    Will you have him at that price ? It’s going to be really tough to pick defence with chillwell, James, Robbo, Trent, cancel, spurs full backs etc in the mix and many of them getting price bumps, love it !

    1. ritzyd
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      I wouldn't be surprised at all to see 8m for TAA, 7.5 for Robbo and Cancelo and 7m for James, Chilwell 6.5 - in fact i kinda hope they do to cause decisions to be made

      1. David Kessler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        "in fact i kinda hope they do to cause decisions to be made" - I 100% agree. It makes the game far more interesting, and it's not like every other FPL player won't be in the same boat.

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      I expect 7.5 and will be getting him at that price. Initially I wasn't planning on getting him and thought I'd go for Dias or Laporte but I had briefly forgotten how much of a bps monster he was, and how many shots he had. He was unlucky at times and also a bit wayward but he loves taking on shots and I expect a few goals this season. His assist potential has to improve too with Haaland, like for his cross to Jesus against Liverpool, he's excellent at whipping crosses in from the half-space

    3. Kun Tozser
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      7.5

    4. El Presidente
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      Same price as TAA 7.5

  3. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 12 days ago

    Ffs is great value, £15 a year that’s not bad really

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      £29.99 from 1st July.

      FPL is a game with no cash prizes, so why I'm even considering spending money on it I don't know 😆

    2. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      Where is it £15 a year?

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        I paid £17.50 in June ?

        1. Deulofail
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          I am confused

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Would £17.50= £15.00 make you less confused or more?

              1. Deulofail
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Yes thanks!

            • bitm2007
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              You pay the price that FPL membership was when you first signed up providing you don't cancel the auto renew, £17.50 for me, but others who signed up in previous seasons are paying less, and those who signed up since pay more. Full price is £36 now, or £24.99 before 1 July, so if you signed up at that price today you will pay that price again next year, and the years after providing you don't cancel.

              1. Deulofail
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                It doesn't answer my question, but thanks! MynameisIQ sorted me out

                1. bitm2007
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  You can't sign up at £15 a year anywhere now, you had to signed up years ago and not cancel the auto-renewal to get it at that price for the coming season.

      2. Herger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        They did it for me for a tenner

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            4 years, 12 days ago

            Neutrals discount

            1. Herger
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              😀

        2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          Can I cancel my current 2.99 a month?? I'm all for saving money

      3. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        Nice article. Midfielders look the ones mostly subbed off then!

        But is a post-60 substitution really that bad?

        1. They're more likely to start the next game
        2. They'll be fresher and sharper, therefore more likely to return
        3. Getting more starts may increase their total minutes played

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          There is definitely a risk of trying to be to clever and avoiding great options through fear of them being subbed now and again

          Having someone nailed for 90 mins is appealing but 2 points is still 2 points!

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            Yeah you'd think a manager would want their best players on the pitch for as long as they're capable.

            The worry is if it results in more pre-60 subs for wingbacks. Hopefully Neale's future article will shine some light on that.

        2. Skonto Rigga
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          Thanks, Giggs.

          I think that's the thing with KDB - he was subbed off quite a lot last season but generally it happens because the game is already won and he's often inflicted that damage on the opposing team to get City into that position.

          I'm going to have a closer look at Conte's (and others) sub times in the next piece too. My first instinct, from memory, is that the wing-back changes tend to be mostly after 60+ mins. I wonder how many clean sheets were banked by Sess, Doherty and co in early withdrawals when Spurs went onto concede.

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            Ooh that sounds great. Look forward to it.

          2. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            That's going to be a key issue with Haaland. If he's scored once and City are cruising at 2-0, does he get hoiked? Contrast with Sir Harry who almost always plays 90 mins whatever.

            The Spurs wingback issue is very important to me too. In fact, I'd love to see a breakdown of wingback substitutions (eg compare Chelsea and Spurs with the likes of Villa) and wingbacks compared to central defenders.
            Also (getting so greedy here!), how about an analysis of the chances of retaining baps if subbed off early.

            1. Chilli Heatwave
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Very good points on Haaland, if he comes in .5 more than kane and is at risk to a fair few 70 minute games may have to reconsider where the value lies. That said, going to have that issue with any Man City asset less ederson.

            2. Skonto Rigga
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Will try and address as much as I can in the next piece, Andy!

              1. pilgrimchris
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Great piece. Do you think there will be a difference though between the 19/20 situation which was essentially a short term change of rules in order to complete the season compared to this season where managers have had know the change is coming and have had a chance to plan and prepare (and even recruit) on the 5 sub basis?

                1. Indpush
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 11 days ago

                  Yes. Too short a run to think the stats will hold up going forward.

      4. Chilli Heatwave
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        Great article, many thanks. would be interested to know (a) when defenders were subbed, what % where done when a CS was already banked, and, (b) what minute was the average for midfielders being taken off, I.e. had they already got their 2 pts for appearance.

        On a side note, when I click ‘manage subscription’ it seems to just take me back a step and seemingly to the incorrect page, not sure if anyone else has had the same issue?

        1. Chilli Heatwave
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          Seems like (b) was somewhat asked above during my writing time!

          1. Brimble82
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            Looks like we had the exact same thoughts on the article!
            https://tinyurl.com/yytce3b9

            1. Chilli Heatwave
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Just read your comments on the top post and seems you have covered all my queries, that’s what happens when I get sidetracked when writing a comment! Great minds think alike and all that good stuff.

      5. Chappers96
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        I think I am liking 5 at the back to start, flexibility a bit of an issue if another mid goes big early and not much of a bench..

        Got this team on livefpl with 0.5m to spare
        Raya
        Doherty, TAA, Chilwell, Cancelo, Tomiyasu
        Kulu, Saka, Salah
        Johnson, Haaland

        4.0, Dendoncker, Douglas Luiz, Gelhardt

      6. Deulofail
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        Great article Neale, thanks! I must say, however, that I can't stand the gradients you do on the tables, sorry. It serves to add visual noise rather than clarity. Love the words you write though 🙂

        1. SteJ
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          "Visual noise" what a phrase

          1. Deulofail
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            Thanks! 😀

        2. Skonto Rigga
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          Ha, thanks Deulofail. Duly noted! Can't promise we'll do away with them altogether (I think we introduced them to visually break up my endless waffle) but I'll maybe look to see if there are any less jarring colour combinations...

          1. Deulofail
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            I like pretty things, but it should serve the functionality imo. Changing colour of specific or alternate cells/rows/columns is a pretty standard way of helping the viewer segment and attend to the important information. Time to get creative! Just remember that green is not a creative colour.

      7. Tomerick
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        I remember when VAR was going to make a seismic change to the amount of penalties too.

        1. SteJ
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          It did for a bit though. Wasn't the first 12 games or so one season dominated by penalty takers?

          1. Tomerick
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            Maybe. I don’t have the stats but I don’t remember there being much of an impact in the end and there were people stuck with dross just because they thought they might be penalty takers.

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                4 years, 12 days ago

                My memory isn't the best but I remember an absolute avalanche of penalties being given initially then they toned it down

                1. Tomerick
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Fair enough

        2. Tinslinger
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          Anyone know of an app/website that holds wagers? Had a few people not pay up at the end of last season

          1. Tomerick
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            I’ll send you a sort code and account number and look after it for you.

            1. Tinslinger
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Perfect

        3. SteJ
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          I'd be interested to see how many CS were lost after the 60th minute. There could be some upside for wingbacks being pulled in the 5 subs era if they bank the CS as opposed to losing it to a 90th min consolation goal

        4. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 12 days ago

          Nick Pope having his medical at Newcastle today, set and forget GK at 5.0m?

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Started at 5.5 last year for Burnley

            • Tomerick
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              If Dubravka goes sure. They have some pretty poor games to start though so maybe worth bringing in on a wild card later on. I’d prefer Trippier at 0.5 more personally.

              1. The Mentaculus
                • 4 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Do you think there's a chance Dubravka starts ahead of Pope? I've seen Pope described as "competition" for him but has assumed Pope would be 1st choice.

                I'm pretty keen on one of Pope / Trippier. Not too worried about the fixtures (could sub out Trippier for City & Pool / treat Pope as set & forget)

                1. Tomerick
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Speaking to my mate who’s a Newcastle supporter, he doesn’t think it’s clear cut that Pope walks into the team. Could see a period where they’re battling it out a bit so might be better to go for a defender.

            • Chilli Heatwave
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Do you think Martinez will be 5.5? My watchlist is pope, Martinez and Sa at the 5.0 bracket

              1. Mr. O'Connell
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Think they all could be 5.5 which is too much, whereas 5.0 is a bit of a bargain. Dunno why they have to price in increments of 0.5m really.

                1. Chilli Heatwave
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I think if they all come in at 5.5 my eye will turn to the 4.5 range of Sanchez and raya (assuming they remain there)

                  1. Holmes
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    doubt Sanchez would be 4.5

                2. Tomerick
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I think it’s because we all start with 100m. You’d have loads of pricing headaches or wasted budget if they didn’t start at 0.5 increments

                  1. Mr. O'Connell
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Yeah for sure, definitely makes it easier to start with. Just think by doing it they'd increase the player pool a bit. Martinez was 5.5 last season for example and never dropped in price. Can't remember even thinking about owning him.

                    1. Tomerick
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      I think it’s more an example of them just overpricing him really then. 5 would probably have been fair given their frailties for much of the season. Can’t get them all right just like they underprice a few each season too.

          2. Tic Tacs
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            I’m looking at a premium double up of KDB and Vardy to start the season, safe starters and Vardy usually has good early season form with a juicy GW3 fixture home to Southampton. Allows a back line of TAA, Robbo, Cancelo and Cash.

            1. Tomerick
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Vardy could be a great differential. I think most will be going Maddison.

            2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Will certainly be a differential premium match-up! Nice to see a bit of variation in ideas so far this year

            3. ElliotJHP
              • 14 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Arsenal GW2 as well, a famous Vardy Party venue

            4. Chilli Heatwave
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Think vardy could be a great shout if opting for 2 or more forwards!

            5. The Knights Template
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Oscar Wilde’s sequel will shortly be released, The Picture of Jamie Vardy!

            6. Tomerick
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Takes me back to the season KDB was 9.5 or something after injury. I had KDB and Vardy from the start. Took me to a 3k finish!

          3. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 12 days ago

            FanTeam draft:

            Martinez Rodak
            Cancelo Laporte Doherty Coady Salisu
            Salah KdB Coutinho Martinelli Wissa
            Ronaldo Wilson Davis

            Ronaldo is 10m in the game and considering you get extra points for shots on target, I think he'll be better value than Haaland out the door.

            De Bruyne + Ronaldo OR Haaland + Fernandes?

            1. The Knights Template
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 12 days ago

              Coady > Ayling

              1. Camzy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Nah. Leeds defense is awful. Wolves at least when they're on form are tough to break down.

            2. MJF
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Is there a season long game this year?

                1. Camzy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Yes. But it's 5eur to enter. There's also a 50eur.

              • Conners
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Pricing looks generous. I'd be surprised if you can get that team in FPL.

              • Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Looks like a nice blend of safe picks and high impact players.

                Are you playing any high roller games this year?

            3. MJF
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Funny that Dyche only made 1.8 subs on average. Almost like he was trying to prove a point.

                1. No Professionals
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  should have focused on getting them.

                2. The Knights Template
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  As opposed to getting any.

              • Sickboy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 17 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Very basic question here so apologies in advance for being thick, but I presume that if I can still access the members area my membership has renewed automatically?

                Thanks.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Depends on the date of your renewal. Mine is due in August.

                  1. Sickboy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 17 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Ah right, thanks mate.

              • Deulofail
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Apologies if you hate long posts and scrolling. Here's a link to the next comment if you want to skip the next 3 metres of text 🙂

                https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/25025380

                ______

                Last season I planned to start with 4 or 5 Man City attackers, and play with a dead team for as long as possible. Until around GW1 deadline day, I had Torres, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish and Kane in my team, with the hope that both Grealish and Kane would move to Man City. Of course, the Kane deal didn't go through, but I still figured it was a fun and reasonable strategy with 4 players that overlap in playing areas and responsibilities.

                Knowing City would score lots of goals, I would be much more likely to have the right player(s) when the floodgates opened on any particular week, owning players that were quite cheap, but still low-owned due to the rational fears of rotation.

                My rationale was that the value was increased by owning them all, because a benching of one, increased the value of the other, who would be playing. And this even incorporates injuries short (medium?)-term injuries. Their price is low for a reason (the cost of rotation), and I was mitigating that cost to some extent to raise their value.

                Unfortunately, Foden was injured before the start of the season, and I figured that my risky plan was now not optimal, for sure, and I went for only 3 City attackers, Mahrez, Grealish and Torres. Needless to say, this didn't work as well as hoped for various reasons.

                _______

                Anyway, was I a year ahead of schedule for a strategy like this? Picking a team with plenty of rotation (bringing the price of their players down), and filling your FPL team with those players in an attempt to raise their value? Does this even make economic sense?

                If you were to do this, which players would you pick? One of my only hypothetical drafts so far included both ESR and Martinelli, for instance, whose prices would likely be as high, or higher, than Saka's if they were equally as nailed. I would be tempted to at Nketiah to this group as well (though less overlapping), assuming his price will take into account his competition with an incoming striker.

                Nketiah and ESR, in particular, have the potential to capitalise on lesser minutes as they are opportunistic and good finishers imo. And with 5 subs raising their overall expected gametime, could be a golden opportunity that many will avoid due to the traditional fear of rotation. The Arsenal plan would be muddied a bit by the arrival of other attacking players. So who might you consider in this approach (from Arsenal or elsewhere)?

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I've already rationalised a weird mini-version of this and it's seems to be going viral here.

                  I'm in the one-up-top camp, with two benchie forwards. So what I've done is pair Gelhardt and Greenwood. My reasoning is that Bamford will often sub off and a youngster will come on for a few minutes - but which one? Having both maximises the chance of getting a cameo off the bench rather than risk 2 non-appearances (of course all being well, they stay on my bench anyway).

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 10 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Ah, yes it definitely makes sense if the price is right. Much like having a backup keeper from the same team as your #1 if the price is 4.0.

                2. Tomerick
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I reckon you’d get a lot of benched points with this strategy to the point it would become very frustrating. I went the exact opposite route and had a rule of rejecting Pep roulette entirely. I missed a few points sure but overall finished 15k

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • 13 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Not quite the same. These are two players intended to stay on the bench, and enable a stronger Starting XI.
                    When you have City players in your squad, you of course want them to play and get frustrated when the team sheets shows they're not in the Starting XI.

                    1. Tomerick
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Well like you say, it isn’t the same strategy as outlined in the first half then.

                      In my view, it is always better to target one player who is considered nailed and a decent cheaper bench option. This could be the difference between having for example

                      Son, Saka, 4.5
                      Or
                      Kulusevski, ESR, Martinelli

                      You’re spreading out value to your bench in the hope that those 2 players outscore one more expensive option. Unlikely imo.

                      1. Tomerick
                        • 11 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        Not to mention the inflexibility it provides. If you lose one of those players to afford a move you may as well lose both which means hits.

                      2. Deulofail
                        • 10 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        I think this is quite a biased way to present things. (A) will likely be significantly more expensive than (B). And I didn't specify that one would necessarily be benched everyweek. So..

                        Which would you prefer in your starting XI? (excluding captaincy)

                        A) Son, Saka, 4.5
                        B) Son, ESR, Martinelli

                        I think it'll be rare that someone from B gets 0 mins, but you can still have your 4.0-4.5 bench players as backups.

                        Your example also doesn't consider that the bench players cover the whole team, not just 2 players. The 5-sub rule means that nailed players are less nailed, and the pool of nailed starters that we would actually want in our teams is greatly reduced.

                        I think most people will be picking players that are not nailed to start every week, whether they know it or not. Spreading some value to the bench, as you put it, might not be a bad idea, especially if you can capitalise by purposefully looking for a player (or 3 or 6 or..) who is priced low because of their expected mins. But as I said, you don't have to spread to the bench to buy into that concept. It's just an option.

                        1. Brimble82
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          I'm with you Deulofail.
                          I started with a strong desire to have Son & Saka.
                          I actually went the other way (after checking the dearth of 4.5 MIDs) and downgraded Son > Kulu
                          But essentially going from:
                          A) Saka, Son, 4.5
                          B) Saka, Kulu, Odegaard (/Rapha if he goes)

                          Again, to reiterate your point, if I'm looking at which three I want to have starting in my team every week - it's B (not to mention the potential for incremental improvements with the spare change from the anticipated 3.5m saving from Son>Kulu)

                        2. Tomerick
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          I doubt that this year A will be significantly more expensive than B. I’d estimate A at about 24 and B at 22 which could be easily accommodated with 4.5s.

                          I honestly think it’s even worse if you’re planning to play them both each week instead of having them cover for each other. If you think they’re both legitimately better options in their own right then great but if you’re getting them when their price is lower because of mins risk then that’s the price advantage offset imo. Only if they saw much more minutes than anticipated would you benefit.

                          Even with Son in both examples I’d want A and it’s even less of a debate then in my eyes.

                      3. Andy_Social
                        • 13 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        No no no. I'm hoping that IF one of my Starting XI is rested, one of those guys gets me 1 or 2 points, as opposed to having 2 non-playing subs.

                        1. Andy_Social
                          • 13 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          * reply to Tomerick

                          1. Deulofail
                            • 10 Years
                            4 years, 12 days ago

                            I think Tomerick was talking about my post the entire time, not the Leeds forwards.

                            1. Tomerick
                              • 11 Years
                              4 years, 12 days ago

                              Yes that’s right

                        2. Tomerick
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          Then you’re likely locking in a solid 2 or even 1 that, let’s face it, a good 4.5 option could equal off the bench.

                        3. Tomerick
                          • 11 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          Looking at your leads one it makes more sense in my eyes but still has the issue of being a 2 for 1. I’d only consider that if there were really limited 4.5 options.

              • Deulofail
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Have a nice day 🙂

              • Bavarian
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Bored

                Sanchez
                Robertson-Cancelo-Coady-Cash
                Salah-KDB-Kulusevski-Saka-Guimaraes
                Mitrovic

                1. Conners
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Looks pretty good.

                  Assuming Guimares and Mitro are both 6.5, I think I'd upgrade Mitro to a 7.5 like Watkins or Wilson and get a 5.5 player like Ramsey for Bruno G.

              • Return Of Chamakh
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Is an one else on mobile (android) getting a constant HUGE advert at the bottom of the page as soon as they try and scroll? Like, a third of the entire screen...

                I've tried and blockers but it's still there, makes the site horrible to use so I'll just have to go elsewhere if it continues which would be a shame!

                1. Deulofail
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Sometimes, yes. One of the reasons I rarely use mobile. There was a time I turned off my adblockers on desktop for FFS, but the ads were too intrusive, blocking my view, etc, so ads are blocked again now.

                2. The FPL Units
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Not for me but I use duckduckgo

                3. Brimble82
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Yeah, I get it (using Safari on iPhone).
                  It's annoying, so instead I just use FFS whilst 'working' on my laptop! 😉

                4. Scapegoat Salah
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I use a VPN with an adblocker, so don’t see them. It also blocks YouTube ads! Really good

                5. Nuka Girl
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I do. Goes when I login back in though.

                6. Conners
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Yes I've had that issue. Just refresh once or twice the page then it should go.

                  I also hate those ads which have a fake cross in the top corner which causes the ad page to load instead of removing the ad.

                7. SchluppsIDidItAgain
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I was getting this but then I signed into my ffs account and the ad hasn’t been there any more

                  1. Return Of Chamakh
                    • 12 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Ah interesting, thanks for the heads up on this guys, I'll log out and in again and see if that does anything!

              • Return Of Chamakh
                • 12 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Seems crazy to me, if they carry on with massive ads and constant gambling promotions then it just makes sense for people to go somewhere that doesn't do that - I know money needs to be made but there's a limit when the site becomes something horrible to actually use 🙁

                1. Return Of Chamakh
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  (reply fail)

                2. Steve The Spud
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  You tried to be the cool guy and got android, this is what you get. On iPhone no adds

              • Herger
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                I think I’m just going to carry on as if there was no rule change at all.

                1. Deulofail
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Neutral to rule changes

                2. Tomerick
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  The Johnson strategy?

                  1. Herger
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    😆

              • Nuka Girl
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                With not much value in Forwards I'm thinking of just going Haaland up front.
                That gives me a choice of 5-4-1 or 4-5-1. Never thought I'd do either!
                Assuming I can get a playing 4m defender on bench I have choice of a 5m defender with 5 at back or a 5.5m midfielder with 5 in the middle.
                Seems to me that 5m defenders the season just gone scored roughly 120-130 and 5.5m midfielder 110-120.
                From my reckoning it seems a 5m defender with 4.5m midfielder on bench will likely score me more than a 5.4m midfielder on field with 4m defender on bench.
                I wasn't expecting that. Also makes me reconsider my bench or philosophy.
                Anyone else concluding the same?

                1. _Make
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I'm happy to play four at the back. The only read downside to me of only playing one forward is that early-season you have less team value and every 0.5 counts, and only one up front can mean 0.5-1.0 extra value stuck on the bench: 9m compared with, for example, 8m for two non-playing 4.0 fodder defenders if you play 3-5-2.

                  1. Nuka Girl
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    That was my point. Taking .5 off the bench seems to be negated by 5m defenders scoring more points than 5.5 midfielders.
                    The greater 'value' seems to be in the defenders. So maybe 4m of defender on the bench is a waste!! 🙂

                2. Moxon
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I have always been a huge proponent of 3 at the back. However, with the recent increase in point from defenders I will likely be starting in a 4-4-2 for ultimate flexbility

                  1. Moxon
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Jumping between Watkins, Antonio, Wilson etc. for that second striker spot is fine by me

                    1. Chilli Heatwave
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Playing devils advocate, do you think Watkins outscores cash, Wilson outscores trippier etc. and that’s before accounting for the 2 mil savings?

                      1. Moxon
                        • 11 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        This is a discussion board after all 🙂 I think covering the 7.5m striker price point will allow you to score heavily because you can move from player to player depending on form and fixtures. Over the season, the player to player comparisons might not be extreme (i.e. Cash vs Watkins), however by being able to flexibily switch between the huge pool of 7.5m strikers you will definitely be able to justify the extra spend on that position

                        1. Chilli Heatwave
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          I do understand that form of taking and ultimately I am hoping to do the same on the 5.5 bracket capitalising on fixtures, depending how many fall in that bracket I.e. cash tripper etc.. Guess it will depend on who falls in the 7.5 bracket and how their fixtures line up to capitalise on your strategy. One to consider!

                          1. Chilli Heatwave
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 12 days ago

                            *form of thinking

                          2. Moxon
                            • 11 Years
                            4 years, 12 days ago

                            I think both brackets will hold great value and I'll almost certainly be starting with Cash in my defence. However, I will also be covering that 7.5m striker spot and using the extra 0.5m (from having a 4m defender on the bench instead of a 4.5m striker) to jump on early bandwagons flexibly to catch those tasty price rises 🙂

                            1. Chilli Heatwave
                              • 8 Years
                              4 years, 12 days ago

                              Good luck!

                              1. Moxon
                                • 11 Years
                                4 years, 12 days ago

                                Good luck mate!

                        2. KujaliaFC
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          You can always get any player within two moves no matter what your team structure.

                          Therefore, but banking a transfer early, it's possible to get any player at any time.

                3. Chilli Heatwave
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I will be going 541 for the exact same reasons, seen a few doing the same too.

                4. Brimble82
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I've been looking at similar comparison, but for Premium defender vs 'sub-premium' midfielder.
                  Case at point being my 3rd Liverpool slot.
                  TAA/Robbo nailed on.
                  So the 3rd spot is between VVD/Diaz (Salah is outside my budget for the lineup I'm working to)

                  Looking at total points and PPM doesn't really work because Diaz only had a partial season, so I compared via Mane instead (who I see Diaz getting similar numbers to)

                  They both got 183 and a PPM of 5.4, yet Virg started £5.5m cheaper than Mane and according to Raga's predicted numbers, will be £2m cheaper than Dias in the forthcoming season.

                  So makes sense to bank the cash and save elsewhere, but it's really messing with my thinking and how I approach the game and my GW1 squad.

                  1. Chilli Heatwave
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Brain dump, as we seem to have many of the same considerations.

                    Guess it comes down to (a) value - could you use the extra 2 million effectively enough that even if Diaz performs 15% better than VVD (I foresee no higher) that you would still score more?

                    Also (b) need to consider points scored against the teams within the remit of games you are looking at, assuming they’re not season keepers. Diaz likely to score more against certain teams that play a higher line and are defensively solid from set pieces then VVD would, for example.

                    1. Brimble82
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Nice! (b) is next level considerations.
                      Haven't even started plotting fixtures against playing style!

                      [writes off rest of the working week]

                      1. Chilli Heatwave
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        Yeah I haven’t done the data behind it (yet..) but would make for interesting findings! Guess you would need to know when you want to wildcard to properly strategise, I’m undecided.

                        1. Brimble82
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          There’s only one IB prior to the WC (as opposed to the usual 3), which falls between GW8-9.
                          So I guess if you were going to ‘strategise’ around when you’d play your WC it would be;

                          A) After GW8; IB break
                          B) After WC; to freshen squad dependant upon who got beasties in Qatar.

                          Only consideration there is (and we’ll know this before too long), will FPL make allowances for the mid-season WC a la the extra FH and unlimited changes we got last season and in project restart.

                          Either way, I think they’d still be your two ‘most popular’ windows.

                          1. Chilli Heatwave
                            • 8 Years
                            4 years, 12 days ago

                            Agreed I think we will get a WC and price freeze during the World Cup. I still need to decide between the two you presented which would be most effective, most likely leaning towards A but need to check against fixture swings

                            1. Brimble82
                              • 7 Years
                              4 years, 12 days ago

                              I’ve always been a ‘hold them as long as you can’ kind of manager.
                              But this season, I’m putting all preconceptions aside!

                    2. Brimble82
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      As for a)
                      I used the £2m from Diaz>VVD to turn Gabrielle into VVD, Diaz into Eriksen and Odegaard into Jesus (switching to 532)
                      So:
                      VVD, Eriksen, Jesus vs Gabrielle, Diaz, Odegaard

                      1. Chilli Heatwave
                        • 8 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        Without looking at the data, I would say A on paper looks the strong of the two and would be a better use of the two million, in my opinion

                        1. Brimble82
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          Agree. That’s what I’m leaning to.
                          (Pending the Jesus tfr goi g through and Eriksen finding the right PL club)

              • Lieutenant Frank Columbo
                • 14 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                If the pricing is announced prior to Lingard and Rapha moving to me clubs, they will likely be in many teams. Lingard could be a steal.

                1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Dunno if they will put Lingard in the game yet until he moves to another team? (as he's basically just waiting for his contract to expire)? Not sure.

                  1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Good point … I would hope that if he is still officially under contract they would include him as he’s still officially a Man U player … fingers crossed

                  2. RedLightning
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 15 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Could that be a reason for the delay in launching FPL?
                    Waiting for players' contracts to expire at the end of the month so that they don't have to include them in the game or decide their new prices till they sign for new clubs?

                    1. Zimo
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      That seems smart

              • Deulofail
                • 10 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                I think they'll be some 4.0 defenders that we can expect to be in some kind of rotation with 5 subs per game, if not starting some/most games. Perhaps some full-/wing-backs? I plan to pop a couple in your team and give some beans to attackers. At least for a draft or two. Are there any early potential contenders?

                How about Chambers?
                Konsa out till September? But Diego Carlos coming ing. Still, Chambers is quite the utility player, covering RB and DM if needs be.

                Joe Bryan?
                Subbed on a lot last season (relatively-speaking). Usually played the whole game if he started. I know nothing about Fulham.

                Johnson at West Ham?

                1. Deulofail
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Correction: I'll pop them in MY team, and leave your team to the hackers.

                2. Brimble82
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  As a Bristol City fan - I will be a lifetime supporter of Joe Bryan.
                  Great LWB, solid crosser of the ball, has a thunderbolt in him, and will pick up BAPs due to passing/tackling abilities.
                  Last time Fulham were in the Prem he was getting good mins, hadn't realised he'd lost his place last season.

                  If he comes in at £4.0m I wouldn't turn my nose up.

                  1. Brimble82
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnFScu9VRKA
                    Corker against Utd in the Carabao Cup quarter final 2017.
                    I was there that night - couldn't speak the following day!

                3. The Knights Template
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Just get Ayling and forget all this. Tis the best advice.

                  1. Brimble82
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Ayling? At £4.0m?

                    The only time Ayling has been 4 was when he was four sheets to the wind at the Cheltenham Festival!!!

                    1. The Knights Template
                      • 12 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Ayling likely to be £6.5m. Premium defender.

                      1. Gnu
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        Don't you ever wish we could have 2 Aylings?
                        I do.

                        1. Brimble82
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          Ayling essential.

                        2. Ahtikullervo
                          • 8 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          On the night of KdB 30 pointers I wish I could have 11 of him in my team and triple captain them all... 😀

                          1. Brimble82
                            • 7 Years
                            4 years, 12 days ago

                            On the night of KdB 30 pointers, Ayling got -3.
                            11 Aylings, with triple captain on all of them would've seen you walk away with an impressive -99

                            Stuff that dreams are made of!

                4. Holmes
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  1-2pts are hardly going to make any major difference. But yeah, something is better than nothing. I guess every player will be getting some minutes here and there.

              • Kobayashi
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Do any Spurs fans know if Bissouma is likely to go straight into the starting XI or more of a rotation/back-up player?

                1. Holmes
                  • 12 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I guess he will be rotated and used in Cup games initially.

                  1. Kobayashi
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Sounds good, thanks Holmes!

                2. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  No, no Spurs fans know this. Not even his manager knows this, not having met him yet.

                  1. Kobayashi
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    I doubt the manager needs to sit down and look him in the eye before realising what plans he has for him in the coming season.

                    As for the fans, it's not too much of a stretch to weigh up the strength of the current XI and whether he might fit in as a replacement for another player or more for rotation.

                    1. Andy_Social
                      • 13 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Why do you need to be a fan to speculate about that?

                      1. Kobayashi
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        Because while anyone can speculate, I would say fans - of any club - are probably more informed than your average person to comment on what type of role a new signing might fill in their team.

              • SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Bit different to most teams I’ve seen on here, keen on CB’s this year & quite like Brentford/Newcastle opening Fixtures:

                Alisson(6.0m) 4.0m
                Laporte(6.5m) Dier(5.0m) Dunk(5.0m) Kilman(4.5m) 4.0m
                KDB(11.5m) Diaz(9.0m) Kulusevski(8.0m) Odegaard(6.5m)
                Haaland(12.0m) Wilson(7.5m) Toney(7.0m)

                1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  *4.5m MF

                  1. Brimble82
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Odegaard - but no Saka or ESR!
                    Username does not check out!

                    This is very different to my thinking, but I like it.
                    It looks like it should cost more than it does.
                    But still, I think you’ll miss not having any of TAA/Robbo, Chilwell/James or Cancelo.

                    1. David Kessler
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Agreed. I'd change Allison for a 4.5 or 5.0 GK and increase spend on one or two of your DEFs.

              • Conte and five subs: How he handled Perisic in 2020/21
                Skonto Rigga
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                A nice tie-in with the article above and a great bit of research from Wilko on Conte and his wing-backs at Inter in 2020/21, when five subs were allowed:

                https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2022/06/23/how-the-new-five-substitutes-rule-may-affect-spurs-wing-backs/

              • The Mandalorian
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Are there any websites/apps available to review our season?

                1. Moderately content penguin
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  I also use anewpla but this one is something else

                  https://fploptimized.com/highlights.html

                  1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Nice. No idea what half of it means, but I'll take a proper look later!

                2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  In addition to the ones above: https://fplreview.com/season-review/#points_table

                3. The Mandalorian
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Thanks for the responses

              • Andy_Social
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                Nick Pope has signed his contract as Newcastle player until June 2026, deal completed after medical in the morning. ⚪️⚫️ #NUFC

                More on goalkeepers:
                ▫️ Dean Henderson will join Forest, matter of time.
                ▫️ Man Utd, in talks for Bachmann.
                ▫️ Areola, really close to West Ham.

                1. Deulofail
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Forest of Dean
                  Manbackmann
                  Areola ham

                  1. Brimble82
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Nic-astle Utd

                    1. Deulofail
                      • 10 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Magpies nick
                      Castle fortify with new keep

              • Zimo
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 12 days ago

                How would u improve this team?

                Raya
                Robbo Cancelo Chilwell Perisic
                Salah Kulusevski Saka Neto Wissa
                Haaland

                1. Kobayashi
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 12 days ago

                  Remove Perisic, not sure about Neto (and especially Wissa), both seem like transfers out waiting to happen. Substitutes?

                  1. Zimo
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Why remove Perisic? Neto and Wissa are there cuz they are cheap. Do u have any alternatives?

                    1. Andy_Social
                      • 13 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Read the article just posted.

                      1. Zimo
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        What about it?

                        1. Zimo
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          Oh community article

                      1. Zimo
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        Thanks!

                    2. Kobayashi
                      • 7 Years
                      4 years, 12 days ago

                      Perisic - given his age and the new 5 substitute rule - will likely be rotated more often than not by Conte (see the related thread from today).

                      I realise Neto and Wissa will be cheap, but you will probably end up wanting to transfer them out when they blank for consecutive weeks on end. At that price point, I'd consider Harrison or Ødegaard perhaps.

                      Also, assuming you have two 4.5m forwards you might be in trouble if Pep decides to rest Haaland every now and then unless you have good cover.

                      1. Zimo
                        • 7 Years
                        4 years, 12 days ago

                        I was considering Harrison as well. 🙂 thanks. I might just risk Perisic to start with. I'll switch to Digne or Cash if he rotates too much.

                        1. Kobayashi
                          • 7 Years
                          4 years, 12 days ago

                          Perfectly fine, his opening fixtures aren't too bad and easy to swap if things don't work out. Good luck!

                          1. Zimo
                            • 7 Years
                            4 years, 12 days ago

                            Thankyou! Good luck to you too 🙂

                          2. Zimo
                            • 7 Years
                            4 years, 12 days ago

                            Honestly if Odegaard comes in at 6m I will choose him over the rest but I think he will be 6.5 unfortunately

                  2. Chilli Heatwave
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 12 days ago

                    Agree with all these points