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Gameweek 13 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) begins at the City Ground, where Nottingham Forest and Liverpool meet in the 12.30pm BST kick-off.

Most Premier League clubs have played three matches over the last week and none have had turnarounds as quick as Liverpool, so there is unsurprisingly more rotation from Jurgen Klopp today.

Having made five changes to his starting XI in Gameweek 12, the Reds’ head coach has done the same again this lunchtime.

Trent Alexander-Arnold is among those players dropping to the bench, while Darwin Nunez – flagged as a doubt ahead of this game – isn’t involved at all.

Thiago Alcantara doesn’t make the matchday squad, either, with Klopp explaining ahead of kick-off why those two players aren’t available today:

“No [it’s not precautionary], I wish I could do that.

“For Darwin the game comes too early, he still feels the intensity of the game muscle-wise so there was no chance he could play today. Maybe he could play tomorrow or on Monday but not today.

“And Thiago got a bad ear infection overnight. The decision was made this morning at 5.15. That’s how it is sometimes and that’s the reason for that.” – Jurgen Klopp

Jordan Henderson and Kostas Tsimikas are the other two players to make way, while Andrew Robertson, James Milner, Harvey Elliott, Fabinho and Curtis Jones are handed recalls.

If Klopp is sticking with his new-look 4-4-2, Darwin’s absence means that Mohamed Salah looks set to play through the middle alongside Roberto Firmino.

As for hosts Nottingham Forest, Neco Williams gets another start and comes face to face with his old club.

Steve Cooper’s two changes see Brennan Johnson and Orel Mangala drop to the bench and Taiwo Awoniyi and Cheikhou Kouyate return.

GAMEWEEK 13 LINE-UPS

Nottingham Forest: Henderson, Aurier, Cook, McKenna, Williams, Yates, Freuler, Kouyate, Gibbs-White, Awoniyi, Lingard.

Substitutes: Biancone, Worrall, Mangala, Hennessey, Surridge, Johnson, Dennis, Boly, Renan Lodi.

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Milner, Gomez, van Dijk, Robertson, Elliott, Fabinho, Jones, Salah, Firmino, Carvalho.

Substitutes: Adrian, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Tsimikas, Clark, Bajcetic, Phillips, Kelleher, Alexander-Arnold.


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  1. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Salah redemption day!

  2. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Let's go Mo!

    1. Mirror Man
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Very cheap monthly plan but has abysmal coverage. Up to yourself.

    2. navin
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Ohh crap TAA.

    3. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      FFS

      1. Mirror Man
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Five Fingered Shuffle. Only professionals know what that means and I am a professional.

          1. THFC4LIFE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Five Finger Shuffle*

            1. Mirror Man
                3 years, 5 months ago

                Non-professional spotted.

          2. DycheDycheBaby
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Fantasy Football Scout. Great site.

        • Mirror Man
            3 years, 5 months ago

            LiveFPL tells me my team is very template. This is hugely disappointing and I might have to take a -16 next week to rectify this.

            1. GoonerSteve
              • 16 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              There's a reason those players are template though.

            2. The Knights Template
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Moving to the dark side of the template, huh?

              1. Mirror Man
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  I'm ashamed of myself.

            3. Biggsy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Was so close to a hit for Darwin. Thanks all who dissuaded me

              1. El Presidente
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                You're welcome.

            4. Urban Cowboy.
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Salah brace, Haaland hat trick would be marvellous.

              1. v1nc3
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                *Kane brace

                1. Urban Cowboy.
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  I'm not a selfish man. Brace for Kane too.

              2. Utopsis
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                Will take just 1 Salah goal tbh

            5. Ne0
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              If you own Salah but didn't captain him, do you want him to:
              a) Haul
              b) Score decent
              c) Blank

              1. The FPL Units
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                A

              2. Revival
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                Haul, all points are great

                1. Ne0
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  Just saw that he has a 46.6 EO. Might mean that depending on your rank, his haul might have a positive or negative effect on your rank.

                  1. Black Knights
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    If you own Salah and his ownership is only 46%, you definitely want him to haul.

              3. Sun Jihai
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                A obviously with that EO

                Haaland 189.5
                Cancelo 85.3
                Trippier 79.7
                Martinelli 78.9
                Foden 56.1
                Mitrović 48.2
                Zaha 47.5
                Salah 46.6
                Kane 46.6
                Toney 34.3
                Jesus 29.3
                Pope 24
                Saliba 23.6
                Ward 21.1
                Saka 21.1
                Bowen 21
                Andreas 17.4
                Maddison 13.4
                Perišić 12.9
                De Bruyne 12.8

              4. Independiente
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                3 years, 5 months ago

                Dumbest question I’ve heard in a while

                1. Eat my goal!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  Only dumb when considering EO. Otherwise perfectly valid

                2. Ne0
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  Why is it dumb? I didn't know Salah's EO when I asked the question. And EO matters. For instance, if you captained Salah but owned Haaland, you wouldn't want Haaland to haul (with his 189.5 EO).

                  1. Black Knights
                    • 14 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    You didn’t ask about haaland though.

                3. Mirror Man
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    Straight for the jugular. Lovely stuff. Upvote locked in.

                    1. El Presidente
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      He's Argentinian so needs context

                      1. Mirror Man
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Could I interest you in a glass of punch? Free of charge.

                  • ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                    • 15 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    C

                    You want every player you own to blank

                    1. g40steve
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      That’s just the normal after a week of planning & many hours 🙂

                    2. Ne0
                      • 12 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      No, but if you owned a player with say 150 EO and hadn't captained him, you'd want him to blank. Obviously not the case here though.

                    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                      • 15 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Yep, it’s true

                      Some are experts in this field 😆

                  • Gandalf
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    D - mega haul

                  • DycheDycheBaby
                    • 10 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    A. Haul. He is a differential for me in my ML.

                  • RamaJama
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    Last week’s wildcarders transferred Salah in based on the previous GW, this week, many wildvcarders transferred him out based on last GW.

                4. Ze_Austin
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  Oh, hold on. Johnson benched. Didn't see that coming

                  1. g40steve
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    Still tinkering

                  2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    On holiday figuring out how he can outdo himself in his second stint as PM

                    1. El Presidente
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      LoL

                5. g40steve
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  So the last minute news had me swapping Darwin & Saka > Salah & Lankey

                  Gives me WC of,

                  Alisson,
                  Cancelo, Saliba, Gomez, Tripps
                  Salah, Martinelli, Foden, Bowen,
                  Toney, Hauland

                  Reya, Andreas, Justin, Solanke

                  .4 itb

                  1. g40steve
                    • 8 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    Thinking should’ve just left if 2 hours from now will know!

                  2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    Why didnt you just do Darwin -> Bobby?

                6. Mr. O'Connell
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 5 months ago

                  Started Guehi over Doherty. Feel so dirty. This game used to be about fun and look what it's done to me.

                  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                    • 15 Years
                    3 years, 5 months ago

                    You can still make it fun. It’s up to you

                    1. Mr. O'Connell
                      • 13 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      I need an intervention

                    2. Mirror Man
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Are you FPL Virgins' older brother by any chance?

                        1. El Presidente
                          • 6 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Why can't he be he's younger brother instead?

                          1. El Presidente
                            • 6 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            *his

                          2. Mirror Man
                              3 years, 5 months ago

                              More chance of you being the younger brother by the sounds of this.

                      • Hughes Your Daddy
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Well Guehi did score v Everton in the cup last season when we beat them 4-0, so you never know 😉

                        1. Mr. O'Connell
                          • 13 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Here's hoping

                      • Sun Jihai
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Why? Doherty likely to be benched according to Paul O’Keefe

                        1. Mr. O'Connell
                          • 13 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Yeah, that's what swayed me. Shame really. Need to make my own decisions.

                    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                      • 15 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Anyone watching bt. Crouch and Ferdinand and 2 tiny women in the middle

                      1. Scapegoat Salah
                        • 9 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Sounds like they’re on the wrong channel

                      2. Hazz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Before the watershed? Blimey.

                      3. tiger
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Crouchy also talking about being dominated...

                        https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1583779669022605312

                    4. Old Wulfrunian
                      • 9 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Was there a leak before deadline that Taa is on the bench?

                      1. Hazz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Yes there was.

                      2. mojoindojo
                        • 12 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Yes. 10 min before deadline

                      3. The Knights Template
                        • 12 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        HotD last episode was leaked.

                      4. Hughes Your Daddy
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Not sure, but quite a few hours ago we saying he was a risk

                    5. Prinzhorn
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Spent hours and hours puzzling on my team and one drunk evening turned into making Salah captain.

                      1. mojoindojo
                        • 12 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Could well be a masterstroke

                      2. v1nc3
                        • 6 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        My condolence.

                      3. The Knights Template
                        • 12 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Guzzling instead of puzzling by the sound of it!

                    6. jonnybhoy
                      • 13 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Looking at next week is Mitrovic to Jesus a good option. Have exact cash and don't see anything else worth going for?

                      1. v1nc3
                        • 6 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Jesus has 4 YC.

                        1. Sun Jihai
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Saliba and Jesus to get a tactical YC this GW so they miss Forest rather than Chelsea 😉

                        2. jonnybhoy
                          • 13 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Ahh good point

                      2. DycheDycheBaby
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Mitro doesn't have an awful fixture next week so probably not worth it. I was going to wait until GW16 for Jesus.

                    7. The Polymath
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Which combination would you have?

                      1. Kane, Mount, Andreas
                      2. Martinelli, Zaha, Toney

                      1. OPTA FPL
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        A

                      2. Hazz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        2

                      3. jonnybhoy
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        2

                      4. Paqueta Rice
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        2

                    8. Deulofail
                      • 10 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Darnit I bought Trent and Martinelli for a hit. One down...

                      1. Hughes Your Daddy
                        • 13 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Ouch yeah Trent was a big risk

                        1. Deulofail
                          • 10 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          I had no idea

                      2. The Knights Template
                        • 12 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        It’s all ok because I didn’t do that.

                    9. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                      • 15 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      Why does Steve mcmanaman have to commentate on every Liverpool game on bt?

                      1. OPTA FPL
                        • 14 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        He is ex liverpool simple

                      2. Marvin.
                        • 9 Years
                        3 years, 5 months ago

                        Yawn.

                    10. The Knights Template
                      • 12 Years
                      3 years, 5 months ago

                      C’mooooonnnn …errr…ahem…Joe Gomez!

                      1. Mirror Man
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          I prefer to say Goe Jomez. It's more fun that way.

                          1. The Knights Template
                            • 12 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            I’ll tell you what’s fun, placing two long cheesy puffs in your mouth giving the effect of fangs!

                            1. Mirror Man
                                3 years, 5 months ago

                                Tremendous fun indeed. It helps that they match the color of my actual teeth as well.

                        • DycheDycheBaby
                          • 10 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          I know it's weeks ahead but Toney (mci) to Jesus (wol) for GW16 could be worth it? I only went for 2 Arsenal players on wildcard just in case I wanted Jesus back. Not sure if that was the right move but just keeping options open;

                        • Paqueta Rice
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Come one Forest, get the win!

                          1. The Knights Template
                            • 12 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            0-0 mine strategy

                        • Totalfootball
                          • 9 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Did we get news of arnold benching?

                          1. Paqueta Rice
                            • 5 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Yep

                          2. Sun Jihai
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Yep, 30 mins before deadline or so from memory

                          3. FPL Brains
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Yeah 10mins before the deadline.

                          4. DycheDycheBaby
                            • 10 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Yeah we got the whole team lineup thank goodness

                        • JT11fc
                          • 7 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          2 up top for Liverpool

                        • DycheDycheBaby
                          • 10 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Let's go MO!!!!

                        • Paqueta Rice
                          • 5 Years
                          3 years, 5 months ago

                          Wow, that’s some atmosphere

                        • Mirror Man
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Salah (c) fail

                          • JT11fc
                            • 7 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            As a Bobby and Mo owner expectations are high

                          • Camzy
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 15 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Jesus is my lowest owned attacker this week at 32% lol

                            Template FC here we go!

                            1. Urban Cowboy.
                              • 14 Years
                              3 years, 5 months ago

                              Flip those 4 yellow cards messing with people.

                              1. Camzy
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 15 Years
                                3 years, 5 months ago

                                Yeah I consider it a big opportunity. He's been on 4 YCs for the past 3 games already and I have Almiron ready to step in if he gets booked.

                          • Free Hat
                            • 7 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Watched a few times nfo these last few gws.

                            As a player I would really hate playing versus Yates.
                            Sticks on you like glue and always those little fouls

                          • Urban Cowboy.
                            • 14 Years
                            3 years, 5 months ago

                            Continents drift apart faster than a Milner sprint.