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Gameweek 13 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) begins at the City Ground, where Nottingham Forest and Liverpool meet in the 12.30pm BST kick-off.

Most Premier League clubs have played three matches over the last week and none have had turnarounds as quick as Liverpool, so there is unsurprisingly more rotation from Jurgen Klopp today.

Having made five changes to his starting XI in Gameweek 12, the Reds’ head coach has done the same again this lunchtime.

Trent Alexander-Arnold is among those players dropping to the bench, while Darwin Nunez – flagged as a doubt ahead of this game – isn’t involved at all.

Thiago Alcantara doesn’t make the matchday squad, either, with Klopp explaining ahead of kick-off why those two players aren’t available today:

“No [it’s not precautionary], I wish I could do that.

“For Darwin the game comes too early, he still feels the intensity of the game muscle-wise so there was no chance he could play today. Maybe he could play tomorrow or on Monday but not today.

“And Thiago got a bad ear infection overnight. The decision was made this morning at 5.15. That’s how it is sometimes and that’s the reason for that.” – Jurgen Klopp

Jordan Henderson and Kostas Tsimikas are the other two players to make way, while Andrew Robertson, James Milner, Harvey Elliott, Fabinho and Curtis Jones are handed recalls.

If Klopp is sticking with his new-look 4-4-2, Darwin’s absence means that Mohamed Salah looks set to play through the middle alongside Roberto Firmino.

As for hosts Nottingham Forest, Neco Williams gets another start and comes face to face with his old club.

Steve Cooper’s two changes see Brennan Johnson and Orel Mangala drop to the bench and Taiwo Awoniyi and Cheikhou Kouyate return.

GAMEWEEK 13 LINE-UPS

Nottingham Forest: Henderson, Aurier, Cook, McKenna, Williams, Yates, Freuler, Kouyate, Gibbs-White, Awoniyi, Lingard.

Substitutes: Biancone, Worrall, Mangala, Hennessey, Surridge, Johnson, Dennis, Boly, Renan Lodi.

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Milner, Gomez, van Dijk, Robertson, Elliott, Fabinho, Jones, Salah, Firmino, Carvalho.

Substitutes: Adrian, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Tsimikas, Clark, Bajcetic, Phillips, Kelleher, Alexander-Arnold.


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  1. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Imagine KDB and Son are running riots ...

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Phew halfway to Salah clean sheet

  2. Bishopool
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Extremely few chances created. Tactically this would be perfect Trents game.

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Surely he comes on at half time. This has been tragic. I've even relegated it to the iPad at the expense of the cricket.

  3. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Half time thank God

  4. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Half time. Liverpool look crap!

    1. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers Ron

  5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Liverpool look rubbish but Forest look decent but lack a cutting edge up top

    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Best Forest performance since beginning of season

      1. El Presidente
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        No mate, Liverpool has been horrible. Rubbish.

  6. el polako
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    How many Salah scored?
    Or still trolling?

    1. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Been trolling 13 gws

      1. el polako
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Since February really, yet people still think he can deliver...

        1. chocolove
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Lol. They just cant move on.
          1 goal against city and got hyped up. Very amusing.

  7. Goodfeathers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Yawn..

    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Ynwa.

      1. chocolove
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Nayw

        1. Utopsis
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Master Yoda!

    2. Sandy Ravage
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      anyway

    3. Amsterhammer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wayne?

    4. The Train Driver
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      No way!

  8. chocolove
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Paying 12m+ only for getting few points.
    < Pay 11.5m for captaining every week
    B)

  9. tbos83
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    So far, so textbook early kick off

    1. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Not really. Rvp been banging them for arsenal in the past.

  10. Sandy Ravage
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like I gave up on double NFO too soon. Henderlliams / Necoderson FTW

    1. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      WC fail.
      I transfered them out as well

  11. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Might have 7.3m ITB if Salah keeps this up.

  12. SirWenger
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Salah (TC) failed

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Solid 9 points.

      1. how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I'm not sure he'll make 60.

    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      9 points better then 3

    3. Mambino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I TC'd him GW4 and he got 3 points

  13. El-Kloppico
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    RIP to Salah captainers today.
    Surely Haaland gonna score a hatty again, right?

    1. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Foden 😉

    2. Supersonic_
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Probably. This is a terrible watch

    3. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      They may just start to delete their fpl account in advance before Haaland kicking a ball.

    4. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nobody captains Salah these days.

    5. umerlfc
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Kane is the only alternate captain choice this season. Very few realize it

  14. Fabreghastly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Not just the shirt colors making it difficult to tell which team is Liverpool

  15. Letsgo!
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Forest to score later

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Dennis

  16. El Presidente
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    This 2nd tier Liverpool is nowhere near the level required for a top 6 team in the EPL. I'm sorry but players like Carvalho, Elliot, Milner, Curtis Jones and Gomez are just really not up to standard. Horrible.

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Gomez is definitely the standard if you ask me. Not been great today but was incredible v City. I think Carvalho and Elliot are still very young and may eventually make the standard. Curtis Jones, I just don’t see it.

      1. El Presidente
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Maybe, I can see the potential of some but when you put them all together playing in a stage where the team is not in great form it's really noticeable.

        1. Paqueta Rice
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Sure but Klopp has had his hand forced with injuries and illnesses. Only HT so a lot could change. I’d love Forest to get something though

    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Injuries

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Gomez MOTM so far.

      1. El Presidente
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        What? He was so weak in that 1v1 vs Lingard... if its someone else...

        1. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Fwd playing def, cut him some slack

    4. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Spent their money poorly this summer.

      Klopp can complain about City having unlimited funds but it’s blatantly obvious the squad needed a couple of midfielders and he spent all his money on a striker he didn’t really need.

      1. El Presidente
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Agree and I would also add letting Mané leave was a huge mistake. Yes I believe they could have done much more to keep him.

    5. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      They don't play in their best positions. Really it should be the deputies in their rightful positions as follows:

      GK: Alisson, Kelleher
      LB: Robertson, Tsimikas
      RB: TAA, Ramsay
      CB: VVD, Konate, Matip, Gomez
      DM: Fabinho, Melo
      LCM: Henderson, Jones
      RCM: Thiago, Keita
      LW: Diaz, Carvalho
      RW: Salah, Elliott
      FW: Nunez, Jota

      They have serious issues in midfield with Fabinho, Melo, Thiago, Keita injured and Jones only coming back from injury.

      1. Mirror Man
          3 years, 5 months ago

          They've shot the sheriff

    6. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Majority of Liverpool’s attacks have been down the right which seems very strange considering Milner is there and Trent being benched. I mean why not use Robertsons side more?

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Forest are weak defensively on that side

        1. Paqueta Rice
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Sure but Robertson is better at attacking than Milner.

    7. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      If Salah won't score, I want Foden to be benched.

      Should have done Salah to Foden, but didn't.

    8. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wildcard still warm and already looking at how to get kane back in for salah.

      1. Mambino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        My WC still warm and 0 points for 2 picks in Nunez and Trent. Gonna save a FT for next GW and transfer both out the one after

      2. chocolove
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Not with tony and mitro banging goals

        1. how now brown cow
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Toney YC would change that

    9. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Game panning out as expected after seeing Liverpool lineup.

      Quite alarming how the younger Liverpool players don’t have the basics. Curtis Jones cannot make a 5 yard pass but how can he when he never addresses the ball properly? It’s always underneath him or slightly to his left. Screams of a player who was good in the academy who can beat plebs on the ball but will get found out at prem level every time and lose the ball constantly.

    10. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Klopp should bring on TAA on the right side of the midfield three. Inject some creativity. Probably take off Carvalho, shift Elliott up.

      1. I Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        They're not playing a midfield 3.

        1. ZimZalabim
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          half the people commenting arent even watching the game it seems lol

        2. diesel001
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          They should be

          Alisson
          Milner Gomez VVD Robertson
          TAA Fabinho Jones
          Salah Firmino Elliott

      2. bench boost for every gamew…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Tbf, Carvalho is one of the left creators with all those injuries. HENDO in for Jones might do wonders as well as Trent. Milner had his last hurrah Vs Foden but Forest is a whole different kind of challenge. Firmino tired does not help.

        1. I Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Agree with this. Hendo + Trent for Jones + Milner.

          1. bench boost for every gamew…
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Klopp will also agree. I bet

    11. bench boost for every gamew…
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I dont think people would cap Salah of they knew Thiago was out, as well as Nunez. SAY all you like, but Nunez makes Liverpool better and Thiago is instrumental. Salah can still score, Nfo are not good.

      1. Qaiss
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Nunez does not make Liverpool better, he’s a complete downgrade on Mane.

        1. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Well, Mane is the most complete attacker/left wing in the world. Nunez will be right up there with Haaland when Liverpool get their mojo back.

          1. Qaiss
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Ho ho ho, on the Nunez bit, are you having a laugh?

        2. DMP
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Where was Mane at his age ….

      2. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Not many capped Salah anyway, only 5% of the top 10k went for him and most of those were probably people who missed the deadline and had their captain from last week

    12. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      If Salah blanks then I think I will transfer him out for Zaha.

      1. Digital-Real
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Do you like pain?

        1. The Philosopher
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Think it's quite obvious he does as he owns Salah

    13. Sandy Ravage
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Predictions for MCI line-up?

      1. DRIZ ✅
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Itk here foden might

      2. banskt
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I predict Foden on bench.

        1. Sandy Ravage
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Are you Pep?

    14. I Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Praying for a penalty. Only way Salah scores.

      1. FantasyTony
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Milner says hello

        1. banskt
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Beats me to it.

        2. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Oooo Frosties!

      2. banskt
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Nope. He is not on pens tonight. Milner.

      3. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Milner on pens

      4. CABAYE4
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Salah will take.

      5. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Salah is the pen taker now

        Hes taken pens with Milner on the pitch

    15. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Salah > Almiron in the card, sending the remaining fund to charity!

      1. DRIZ ✅
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Desperate times

    16. The Philosopher
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Neco 16 pointer loading

    17. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Hoping for a Neco CS.

      1. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Me too

    18. Mirror Man
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I've just ordered myself a couple of burritos

      • Shultan
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Thinking Salah > Saka for GW14

        1. Botman and Robben
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Nice upgrade

        2. Gandalf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Glad held off on the Kane transfer.. looks like that move the one to make