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19 January 2023 1623 comments
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There’s one more Double Gameweek 20 match to go and it’s a big one.

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur is the fixture in question, with kick-off at the Etihad Stadium set for 20:00 GMT.

Four Man City assets boast double-digit ownerships in the top 10k, but two of them aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s starting XI tonight. It’s Ederson and the heavily captained Erling Haaland who get the nod, with Joao Cancelo and Kevin De Bruyne on the bench.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola makes five changes overall from Saturday’s defeat at Old Trafford: Kyle Walker, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and Phil Foden are replaced by John Stones, Rico Lewis, Ilkay Gundogan, Jack Grealish and Julian Alvarez.

Antonio Conte, meanwhile, makes four alterations after losing 2-0 at home to Arsenal, with Ben Davies, Emerson Royal, Ivan Perisic and Rodrigo Bentancur coming in for Clement Lenglet, Matt Doherty, Ryan Sessegnon and Pape Sarr.

Harry Kane – who has scored three of his four goals against Man City in all competitions at the Etihad – leads the line, flanked by Dejan Kulusevski and Son Heung-min.

GAMEWEEK 20 LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Stones, Akanji, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, Grealish, Mahrez, Alvarez, Haaland

Subs: Ortega, Laporte, Walker, Phillips, Dias, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Foden

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Romero, Dier, Davies, Royal, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Perisic, Kulusevski, Son, Kane

Subs: Forster, Sanchez, Doherty, Sessegnon, Tanganga, Sarr, Lenglet, Bissouma, Richarlison

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  1. CrouchDown
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    What can I do with this lot with 1 FT? Also, should I play Ward?

    DDG

    Shaw Trippier Akanji

    Salah Mahrez Rashford Martinelli

    Haaland Mitro Kane

    Subs: Ward, Andreas Bueno Patterson

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Subtle Mahrez brag

      1. CrouchDown
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Don’t worry mate I had Haaland TC and the rest of the team sucked

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Haaland TC a win in my book. Always glad to be shot of any chip and it still produced a few points.

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Save and play ward to spread risk with shaw in your team

    3. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I'm playing him but Henderson is my other GK (inj.). Still happy to go with Ward though.

  2. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Ben White coming on for De Bruyne yes!!!

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Nice, I’ve got him coming on for mitrovic

    2. Hubley
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      No he isn't

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yes he is, De Bruyne didn't play.

        1. Vinyl78LP
          • 16 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Erm... didnt he play against Man Utd ?

          1. Biggsy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Shhh, let him dream

            1. Amartey Partey
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Exactly!

        2. The FPL Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          He played in the first game of the 2 citeh played in this game week. So no sub.

  3. Krafty Werks
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    A rested KDBlank will prove the best captain GW21...you'll see?!

  4. Bartowski
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    I was seriously worried the consistency they've shown to me might be in question but no, not at all, they once again both showed me what I needed to see...and it was another week with two points combined from Cancelo and Foden...

    This is the type of consistent performance I demand when I put my investment in....

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Truly outstanding management. Demanding consistency!

      1. Bartowski
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        It just brings a tear to my eye when I see how they've responded to my management.

        And for an outstanding manager such as yourself, KT, to acknowledge it...well...it's not just one eye that's gushing, I can tell you that much...

        1. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          As a manager with multiple +10k finishes and a -1 bench boost I know talent when I see it!

  5. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is KDB?

    A. Slightly injured
    B. Out of favor
    C. Rested

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A little from column A and a little from column B

    2. Krafty Werks
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      C)hilling

    3. sulldaddy
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      C

    4. Begbie.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      C

    5. DangerFC
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A/C def not B imo

  6. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Humble brag alert: It's only taken 20 GWs but looks like I'll finish the GW with OR inside the top 1M for the first time this season.

    1. DARE TO BISCAN
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      You're like the fat girl that's proud of their body. Lauded by all the other girls (because she ain't a threat). You go, girlfriend! Stunning and brave.

  7. No Professionals
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Ward
    Trippier Ake White
    KDB Saka Rashford Almiron
    Haaland(c) Kane Mitrovic

    Kepa Shaw Andreas Bueno
    1ft 0.3m

    Feels like a solid roll? Risk Ake doesn’t play, rest should be fairly nailed.

    Would like to do almiron to Brighton but makes sense to hold off?

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I have similar team and think saving makes sense. Gives you a few options next week - I’m looking to get a third arsenal in

  8. Scalper
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Thinking of TC Bruno if they have DGW 22. Survey can’t be any worse than Haaland this dgw

  9. DangerFC
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Bit of advice appreciated

    A. Cucurella to botman
    B mitro to toney
    C save

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Are there more dangerous trades you’re considering?

  10. gart888
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Best Cancelo replacement if you already have White, Shaw, Trippier, Bueno?

    1. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Robertson / TAA?

      1. gart888
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        But Liverpool look dreadful.

        1. Touré De Force
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          They do, but they are differentials vs the FFS community / top 10k and they have potential for hauls, more so TAA probably, although prefer Robertson myself

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Slim pickings - in isolation another arsenal defender but you might want 2 mids instead. Maybe dunk or Newcastle but both might blank in 25

  11. banskt
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    The plan for selling Mahrez is now shelved. Dizzy heights: 97 points and up to 11k. Unfortunately, used my TC on Haaland.

    1. Nightf0x
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He's city best player right now, im keeping until pep rotation strikes

      1. banskt
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        But I am selling KDB.

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yeh keep mahrez

  12. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Why didn't Ederson get the assist points?

    According to FPL's own rules he should have it:

    "An assist can be awarded for a pass or cross, even if an opponent gets a touch before the goal is scored. However, that touch must not significantly alter the intended destination of the ball. That "intended destination" can often be a team-mate if he is a clear target."

    https://www.premierleague.com/news/825262#:~:text=An%20assist%20can%20be%20awarded,he%20is%20a%20clear%20target.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah they literally have to give it it’s nuts if they don’t

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah, that's the worst fantasy assist decision of the week!

    3. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Are they thinking mahrez wasn’t the intended target

      1. Hairy Potter
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        He was as more the intended target than the average corner or free kick into the box.

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Just seen it again and agree with you

    4. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Kane got it, Alisson got it no reason not to give it?

    5. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      3 points, season over……

      This happens with players all through the season, why only the noise once it’s a highly owned player?

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Isn’t the answer to that quite obvious

        1. Qaiss
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          No because inconsistencies happen all the time and no one cares. It’s 3 points, just let it go.

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I think people do care when they have points taken away that should count as per the rules it’s just when more people are f*cked over there’s more of us to cry about it

            1. Qaiss
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              The rules didn’t include 2 free hits at the start of last season and then FPL went and added one in. The game will never be precise the rules. They’ve shown that many times already.

    6. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Given to Kane instead

  13. Nightf0x
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Mitro darwin tross -4 to toney kane mahrez massive pts swing, glad im on the right side

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Well played

  14. Hairy Potter
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Hope Howe gives an update on Trippier tomorrow. Not seen in the training photos. Hopefully he's okay for the weekend.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Is Howe a reliable source of player information?

    2. Onz
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Thanks for the tip, hope he plays though my bench is good. I miss most of the pre deadline news due to the time difference.

  15. MikeLowrey
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is Foden a hold? Surely he plays against wolves after a rest

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      You should hold him for the hauls to come. Owes owners 140 pts and rising.

      1. Hairy Potter
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Good point

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Reply fail

  16. Bartowski
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Why wasn't that an Ederson assist? Intended target, Spurs defender just deflected it slightly but didn't have it under his control.

  17. DropkickMurphys
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Pep post match interview was interesting. Then he got mad at the end and took off lol

  18. Pat Bonner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Seen the last goal and should be an ederson assist. Still time to change it?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Points still say provisional on the site so hopefully that’s because they’re looking at it

    2. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Sutherns is on the case

  19. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Who scores more points in GW21?

    A. Mitoma
    B. Odegaard

    1. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A. I think arsenal vs Manchester United will be a tight game.

      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        But I would want odegaard long term.

    2. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Odegaard, set and forget

  20. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    What do I do here? With 1 FT and 0.7m in the bank.

    A) take out Martial? (can't afford Toney)
    B) take out Castagne to Botman? (and not play varane)
    C) save FT

    Kepa
    Trippier White Varane
    KDB Mahrez Rashford Martinelli Almiron
    Kane Haaland

    Ward; Martial, Castagne, Bueno

    1. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      D) save FT and play Castagne over varane?

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Save and reassess next week when we should know more on dgws

      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks pat. Would you place Castagne over Varane?

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Not expecting clean sheet from either so maybe castagne has slightly more chance of an attacking return?

  21. Buck The Trent
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Play Kepa (liv) or Ward (BHA) ?

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Ward

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’m playing Kepa. Brighton are the most form team of the lot and they play Leicester.

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Kepa. Think both concede but Kepa will perhaps get more save points

  22. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Royal was good tonight, could haul against Fulham if anyone fancies a punt

    1. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Don’t say that, I own Doherty

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’m anti-royalist

  23. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Chasing in a monthly league so captain Kane instead of haaland? About 10 points behind

  24. FantasyClub
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    I think I’ll be going KDB ➡️ Bruno F for GW22.
    Man City aren’t right and KDB is not justifying his price to say the least. Points being spread across the City mids also.

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      City double in 23 so I’m holding

      1. Make United Great Again
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Mahrez >>>

      2. FantasyClub
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I know but I’m not enticed. The points are being spread across the city mods anyone can return. Look at his points return. It’s dreadful! especially at 12.5m

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I agree with you and his returns have been awful but that doesn’t really matter now - only question is will he outscore bruno over 4-5 gws. Both have decent fixtures and a double so it’s a close one

          1. FantasyClub
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Nothing close about their price points though…more value in Bruno atm. You can’t have a 12.5m player with those kind of returns. It’s infuriating

          2. FantasyClub
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Mahrez & Grealish more enticing atm

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’ll be joining you.

    3. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      KDB to mahrez or arsenal mid

      1. FantasyClub
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Im already there, have Saka Odegaard & Nketiah

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Oh ok maybe either keep them or downgrade to mahrez

          1. FantasyClub
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Why don’t you like the Bruno transfer? He’s in form & Man U playing well & I don’t have a Man U player

            1. Stranger Mings
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              City have DGW23

              1. FantasyClub
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                The double ain’t that easy with Arsenal away. Bruno has Leeds. I’ll contemplate getting a city mid the week before.

                1. Stranger Mings
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Agree Bruno great option - it’s just shame losing DGW player

    4. jacob1989
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      just get mahrez. he is peps favorite now

      1. FantasyClub
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I’ll get Mahrez for the double. Don’t be surprised if he’s rested for WOL. Not much of a break

  25. AdamJ91
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Want rid of Digne, best replacement please? Money isn't an issue as I can afford anyone I need too.

    Current Def;
    Trippier, Castagne, Botman, Bueno, Digne*

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenal - unless u want triple mids/fwds

  26. Sterling Archer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Not a deflection off the defender, more a miscontrol

  27. Lord of Ings
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Doherty owners, you guys reckon he starts the next game? Also chances of Leeds and United Doubling in 22?

    1. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I didn’t see much from Emerson apart from being in the right place at the right time for the goal and smashing the ball into the crowd every time City came near their goal

  28. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Due to prior double GW I have Mitro, Pereira and Tete sitting in my squad going in to next GW. Tempted to start all 3!

  29. pablo discobar
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    That pep interview!

  30. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Had Martinelli from the start but decided to drop him (WC) and it feels like a relief!
    He's still a great option but I wanted Saka so I just did it.

    Do we care too much about value tied up in players?

    1. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Only if you are going to want them back

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I hate to break it to you but martinelli is hauling this weekend

      1. pablo discobar
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Trossard is a problem for Martinelli

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Indeed, that's what made me finally do it

        2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          True but he’s not even signed as of yet. Martinelli is starting v United this weekend.