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15 February 2023 1537 comments
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The final match of Double Gameweek 23 takes place at the Emirates Stadium, where Arsenal host Manchester City in the 19:30 GMT kick-off.

This huge top-of-the-table clash was originally meant for Gameweek 12 but had to be rearranged due to Queen Elizabeth II’s death and the subsequent moving of a Europa League match.

It means that we’ve reached February without the league’s two best sides having faced off, a chance to see if the student – Mikel Arteta – can overcome his master Pep Guardiola.

Visitors Man City can overtake their hosts tonight and have made one change to the side that beat Aston Villa 3-1 on Sunday – Nathan Ake (£5.1m) replaces Aymeric Laporte (£5.7m).

That means Erling Haaland (£12.2m) has shaken off the knock which resulted in his half-time withdrawal and there are also starts for Kevin De Bruyne (£12.4m) and Riyad Mahrez (£7.8m). However, owners of Manuel Akanji (£5.0m) and Rico Lewis (£3.9m) will be frustrated to lose at ‘Pep Roulette’ for both parts of Double Gameweek 23.

Arsenal had the same starting XI for the previous six league matches but have made two changes here. Popular FPL defender Ben White (£4.7m) is on the bench and midfielder Thomas Partey (£4.7m) misses out because of “a tight muscle.”

In comes Takehiro Tomiyasu (£4.2m) and Jorginho (£5.8m), which is good news for Gabriel Martinelli‘s (£6.6m) owners – he keeps his place despite Leandro Trossard‘s (£6.7m) weekend goal.

Bukayo Saka (£8.3m), Eddie Nketiah (£6.8m), Martin Odegaard (£7.0m), Gabriel (£5.2m) and William Saliba (£5.3m) start too.

GAMEWEEK 23 LINE-UPS

Arsenal XI: Ramsdale; Tomiyasu, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko; Odegaard, Jorginho, Xhaka; Saka, Nketiah, Martinelli

Subs: Turner, White, Tierney, Kiwior, Holding, Trossard, Fabio Vieira, Nelson, Cozier-Duberry

Manchester City XI: Ederson; Walker, Dias, Ake, Bernardo; Rodri, De Bruyne, Gundogan; Mahrez, Haaland, Grealish

Subs: Ortega, Laporte, Lewis, Akanji, Sergio Gomez, Phillips, Palmer, Alvarez, Foden 



FPL Marc Broadcaster, writer and overthinker. Hoping that ‘differential potential’ will catch on.

  1. Tonyawesome69
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Seems like majority of the teams that ended up around 100 had both Shaw and Mahrez in the 11 over the template

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'd Shaw & Toney on the bench ffs.

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Wait Shaw and Mahrez aren't template????

      1. Yank Revolution
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Shaw, yes, Mahrez, about 26 pct.

  2. BrockLanders
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Nice wee rest for KDB at Forest at the weekend surely. Mahrez fresh as a daisy with the early sub.. 🙂

    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Im considering benching him myself this week because of this!

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      We could see Alvarez start over Haaland at Forest. More mins over KDB in recent games

    3. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Mahrez, Kdb & Haaland all rested against Forest

  3. Qaiss
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Still early but are people selling KDB?

    1. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Gw25 for me

      1. Qaiss
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        High chance of a rest this week I reckon, 3 games in 6 days followed by champions league.

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      GW 25

    3. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      KDB to Salah in 25

    4. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      25

    5. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      KDB to Salah

    6. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      General consensus is in 25, wonder if you could get away with doing it this week hmm

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I’m not sure he is rested this weekend after having a rest recently already. I’d hold regardless until 24

        1. Qaiss
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I just don’t know if he’ll start 4 games in 10 days

    7. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      why

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      No

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Sped up a small bit.

    3. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    4. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Very clearly yes, look at the speed of the ball

    5. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe

    6. Shark Team
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes he did, just see it from another camera

    7. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    8. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure

    9. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Other angle looks like he touched it.

    10. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      The way the ball accelerated away from him I say he did touch it

  4. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    81. If I'd played Shaw, would've been a good week. Bad decision.

    1. Arthur Shelby
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yup, stings…

    2. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Same. Gutted.

    3. Steve Stiffler
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Same 78 here, Shaw on the bench transferred out Toney for Kane and Mahrez for Salah. Could have had a Mahrez pen late on. Rough

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Join the large club.

  5. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Happy that Cucurella to Lewis has worked out well

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Hahaha! Well played.

    2. BeWater
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I did Shaw to Lewis! Got my 1 Botman point coming off the bench though so all good.

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Oops

  6. BeWater
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Bloody hell Ederson my expectations were low but...

    1. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Matched by Ward....

  7. Shark Team
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I just saw what Adeyemi did to Enzo in that Dortmund goal, also Kepa went road-trip…

  8. TeddiPonza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    208k overall to 16k overall since gameweek 19. Hits galore pulling off nicely!

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Fantastic mate

  9. KaBoZ: Kids,don't Drin…
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Who would you buy from city now?
    A. Mahrez
    B. Gundo (he’s back)
    C. Grealish (great form)

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      A of those

    2. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'm sticking with Mahrez. Think he has the highest ceiling, but he will have benchings.

    3. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      A if he is on pens, B if not

    4. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      A

    5. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      A

  10. BUZZBOMB ♡
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Roll on Saturday. For 40 something years, Ive loved it when the first two teams in the Panini annual play each other

  11. Bakutaner
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Sorry if I ask and not so informed, but if I have Lewis in starting 11 and Estupinan in reserve (7 pts) will I get those 7 pts from Estupinan?

    1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes if he’s your first sub, or second sub with Lewis being part of a back 3

      1. Bakutaner
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Well, thats good news 🙂

    2. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes if he is first of the two defenders on the bench

      1. Bakutaner
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        For fortune, he is!

  12. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    86 all out, happy

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Fantastic score

      73 all out, down to 40k from 30k

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Unlucky mate

  13. Woy_is_back
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone actually suprised Arsenal choking?

    Joke club

    1. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Only morons yeah, we’re without 2 of our best players. Completely different team without Partey especially

      1. BUZZBOMB ♡
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Need squad depth though. I appreciate Arsenal isnt owned by a corrupt country, but need a bit more investment. Thats was how the tables turned under Arsene. Everyone else grew.

        1. Qaiss
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          We should have signed a top class midfielder in January but it’ll have to wait until the summer. This is our chance to win the title though, once Partey and Jesus are back I think we’ll be fine

      2. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Injuries are part of the game and all that type of stuff...

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Bro you got a maggot

    3. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Tonight wasn't choking, Everton & Brentford was.

      Surprised it came this quick is all.

    4. BUZZBOMB ♡
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Like City didnt go all Spursy last GW...

    5. Lord of Ings
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not really. It’s more about City’s quality than Arsenal choking. Even last season Arsenal went toe to toe vs City at the emirates but City came up trumps in the clutch moments. Far too much quality and experience compared to Arsenal.

  14. Scalper
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    79 and red arrow..

    Whut

    1. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      can't be right- lets stats readjust game just finished

  15. TeddiPonza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Play White or Tarkowski in 24?

    1. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      White

    2. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Tark imo

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      White

    4. Bakutaner
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I will go with White

  16. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Saka 2 bonus!

  17. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Hopefully Pep doesn't go too crazy with GW24 rotation - a bit worried as a Mahrez owner!

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Forest are doing well defensively and are at home, won't be expecting much anyways even if he starts

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Expect mahrez to play now as came off early

  18. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Captain Haaland or Rashford?

  19. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Just noticed the FPL site design has changed.

    1. Sun God Nika
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I like it

  20. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I’m off to bed before I get a ban. Nketiah please don’t play for Arsenal next season

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not guilty =/= innocent.

      Getting off on a technicality =/= innocent.

      Just something for you to ponder over so you stop embarrassing yourself!

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      2. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        He's a blinded Arsenal fan. No point talking to him about it.

  21. Steve1987
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Worth taking a hit to do Fernandes to Salah this GW and in prep for DGW?

    Had hoped to do it next week for free but can only just afford it and Fernandes due to drop price. Definitely want Salah for the 5 games after given the fixtures.

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Bruno missed three likely goals and three assists over last two games vs Leeds and Salah is playing away vs the joint best defense in the league. I would wait for one more week.

      1. Steve1987
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Only problem is if I wait one more week, I can’t do that as single transfer Would need to do an alternative hit but nobody I’m keen to downgrade

    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure for a hit, good chance Bruno outscores Salah this week with LEI at home vs. NEW away IMO
      Bruno unfortunate not to return in the last two games

    3. BUZZBOMB ♡
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I would wait and take my hit next GW.

  22. EL tridente
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    KDB to Salah in GW25?

    1. DLLM
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      definitely

  23. Bakutaner
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Any bonus for KDB?

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Just the 3

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      All 3

    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Nketiah ended up on -3bps meanwhile!

  24. Francescoli
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    HELP! No idea what moves to make. Two free transfers and 0.4itb

    Kepa
    White Ake Trippier
    KDB Saka Odegaard Fernandes Rashford
    Haaland Mitrovic

    Ward Shaw Gnonto Bueno

    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Early KDB to Salah?

    2. Rantallion
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Shaw to Tarkowski in preparation for gw25

      1. Francescoli
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        That’s what I’m currently thinking

  25. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Seemingly Arsenal without Partey = United with Casemiro

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I don’t think Jorginho done bad either just not the same effect on the game

    2. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      and Newcastle without Bruno G

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yep, agree on that one too

      2. El Presidente
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        And City without Rodri

        1. Paqueta Rice
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Rodri has been incredibly good this season, more so than I remember in last seasons. However, City squad depth is too good, I don’t think him missing has the same effect.

  26. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Good evening all!!! Bit of a selection dilemma for next gameweek so thoughts appreciated!!!! team is….

    Kepa
    Trippier Estupinan Tarkowski
    KDB Saka Rashford Mitoma
    Haaland Kane Nketiah
    Subs- Sanchez Odegaard Ake Mings

    Will be rolling transfer!! Being unsure of Ake’s minutes I don’t know if to start him or not, would you play Odegaard over Nketiah or Mitoma???

    Advice welcomed!!!

    Cheers everyone!!!!

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I’d play Ake over Tarkowski or even Trippier.

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Thankyou mate!! I would start him over Tarkowski probably, just fear a random benching by Pep

  27. Digital-Real
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    At least Ben White is nailed !

    1. Steve Stiffler
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      haha true, was honestly considering getting rid tbh even if he is nailed there defence is very leaky

  28. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Ederson owners holding ?

    Forest
    Bournemouth
    NewC
    Palace
    WHam

    1. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Even Ederson will get at least 1 CS during that run

      1. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yes going to hold I reckon 🙂

  29. romperstomper
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    73 all out with 4 doublers. WTF

    1. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      84 with Toney on the bench here