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FPL July 6

Best £4.0m FPL defenders for 2023/24

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It’s that time of the year again when we commence our exhaustive trawl through the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) price list – and we begin with the best £4.0m defenders.

We start here for a reason.

While nothing has changed with the FPL rules, chips and scoring system, there’s been a bit of a shift in the pricing structure.

Usually, we’re scrabbling round for one or two £4.0m playing FPL defenders at best. A lot of the time, these budget gems – such as John Lundstram, Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Tino Livramento – only announce themselves during pre-season.

But this year, perhaps to counter price rises for the likes of Erling Haaland (£14.0m), the games-makers have made it much easier to find £4.0m options with strong chances of game-time.

BEST £4.0M DEFENDERS: THE PROMOTED TEAMS

All of the stand-out picks in the £4.0m bracket, at present, come from the three newly promoted clubs.

A quarter of the 56 defenders currently in FPL’s reduced-to-clear aisle ply their trade for Burnley, Luton Town or Sheffield United:

 

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  1. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Wonder what price Haaland would have to be to not be in 80% of squads? Or is it more about the prices of everyone else?

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    1. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      When I saw him at 14 it did make me wonder how strong you could get without him, but then I saw how easy it was to get an excellent team with him in there so it's not a consideration anymore

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    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      I think even at 15 or 16m he'd be in 90% of squads, but it would kill off Salah and anyone over 9m

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    3. WVA
      • 7 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      He'd be in everyone's squad no matter what, no other trustworthy premium's if Kane leaves

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    4. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      16-17m this is a price when I would remotely consider to build a squad without him

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    5. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      If they bumped all the midfielders 7m+ up by 1m then he wouldn't be in as many teams.

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  2. The Knights Template
    • 10 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Hall of Shame is welcoming all players: b84jwh

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    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Great imaginary prizes:

      1. Guaranteed knighthood
      2. Free jousting stick
      3. Prominent position at Round Table
      4. Second crack at post-tourney feasting buffet
      5. Personalised helm (not great helm but)!

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      1. Our Man Charlie
        • 13 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        With a smorgasbord of prizes like this , it would be rude not to partake

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    2. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Are any qualifications needed in order to be worthy of entering into thine Hall of Shame?
      I don't expect to be joining, but it would be interesting to know.

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      1. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        All are welcome to enter the Tourney! The tourney was originally the brainchild of one of the more popular Mods so I would be very surprised if you didn’t join! Tis certainly better than being forced to play Soare! Huzzah!

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        1. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          OK, I'm in then.
          But I'm not quite sure whether it would be more shameful to finish first or last!
          Which will the imaginary prizes be awarded to?

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          1. The Knights Template
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Just remember, if you are mediocre you are always at your best! Prize allocation rationale will be considered closer to the starting date of the tourney and depends upon how many millions join.

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            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              And welcome aboard!

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Sounds like my kind of league!

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    4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      It's an honour to join this league. Cheers! and good luck.

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    5. Firminooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Im in. Hope to join you in the protection of the poor and the weak, my Lord.

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      1. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        This is the way.

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    6. Arn De Gothia
      • 13 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Thnx, im in and in real shame of last years position

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      1. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Perfect entrant!

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        1. Arn De Gothia
          • 13 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          *taking a bow*

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      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Go on then.

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    7. Charlie Price
      • 3 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      I have joined. I always try to take part in any league which is born of initiative shown by contributors to these pages. Just hope my multi 1 million+ finishes are poor enough to enable me to rub shoulders with the mediocre.

      May as well advertise whilst I am here the league named after me - The Charlie Price Marathon.

      Code to join is p3txc3.

      Already got someone in my league who can boast once finishing 204th in the world. Presumably he would receive a lifetime ban from The Hall Of Shame for such behaviour.

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    8. 2999 - Lady of Legend
      • 3 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Looks like a fun league so joined 🙂
      Full steam ahead!

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  3. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Really useful article, thanks Neale.

    Beckenbeyer is an awesome nickname.

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    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Neale is the man 😎

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  4. TheTinman
    • 8 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    When there are brilliant known options at £4.5m, and it's easy to get a good squad because it's so cheap does the £4m def actually matter?

    I'm considering going for 3x £4.5m which I will rotate, should be able to get a good home fixture every week.

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    1. Calculated Risks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Depends how you set up your team. Either way, we should have varied teams apart from everyone having Haaland

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    2. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Just to name a few Botman / Pinnock / Tarkowski / Ream / Semedo / Cash / Cresswell (does he still start?)

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      I'm torn between three 4.5s or 5.5 - 4.0 - 4.0. The latter leaves me flexible to potentially important players like Chilwell.

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      1. TheTinman
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Yes me too. Need to have a look and think

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    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      It matters if you want to park him at the end of your bench and invest an extra 0.5 in your starting XI.
      Personally, I've heeded Neale's tip and am rotating Bell with Tarkowski (for today, anyway).

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      1. TheTinman
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Maybe not phrased perfectly, I usually comment on here on the fly whilst walking the dog.

        The point is, it is so easy to find £0.5m, is it not better to have a deeper squad (mitigate the need to make a transfer if your £4.5m defender gets injured/banned etc.)

        You're not seriously going to rotate a Luton defender are you?

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          That's the plan. It's only about 3 times in the first half-season and I'll have wildcarded long before then. Currently he's due to play home to Burnley and Wolves and possibly away to Forest if I delay my WC. I mean, what's the worst that can happen?

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    5. Firminooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      You always need that 0.5 down the line. Never fails.

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      1. TheTinman
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        My opinion is that you always 'think' that you need that £0.5m down the line.

        Sometimes the better option is the cheaper option but we always turn our noses up at them

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    6. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 2 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Still relevant. I don't think I really need a 5-way rotation for 3 spots; 4 will do with a 4m on the end who doesn't need to start

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      1. TheTinman
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        I was more thinking £4.5m striker fodder who never plays (there's never value in that bracket)
        5x midfielders who you stick with / rotate via transfers
        Rotate the 3rd defender spot between 3x £4.5m

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        1. The Mentaculus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 2 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          I'll surely have one of those too, and 5 mids who start every week. Think just one 4.5 defender sub is fine for me personally since I'll probably WC earlyish (6-7)

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          1. TheTinman
            • 8 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            That is true. I played for the early WC last year for the first time and regretted it.

            Going to play to hold it this year like I always used to and see how I go!

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            1. The Mentaculus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 2 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              I did actually enjoy playing with a deep squad last season, and will probably setup with 2 playing subs after WC, which will likely also coincide with European competitions starting up. But there's so much new info on who the good budget options are after the first 5 GWs or so, so I'll reassess my 4.5 defenders and the likes of Enciso then

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  5. Calculated Risks
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    I said it yesterday, but I don't think the variety of 4 mill options is JUST to enable people to have Haaland. The increased cheap options mean people have more choices and we have more varied benches rather than everyone having the same 4.0 mill Def and 4.5 mid. I personally like the look of two 4 mill Defs and a 5 mill mid for my bench

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    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      When everyone owns a £4m it can mess with the algorithm so they end up dropping price (despite never playing in anybody's team) and then they're £3.9m and you're stuck with them. It never typically matters, but it is annoying!

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    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Are you going to say it tomorrow?

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      1. Calculated Risks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Possibly. Stay tuned

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        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Woohoo!

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  6. Rohirrims
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    After last season's heroics by the 4.5 midfielders this season's 4.5 offering seems like a post apocalyptic waste land.

    Feel it may be better to punt on a 5.0 and then move down when a good option emerges.

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    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      I think there's more value in £4.5m defenders.

      Would rather bring one of them in than a £4.5m Mid. So have your £4.5m as fodder and rotate in defenders when needed.

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    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      I think a lot of people (maybe the majority) will go 5 across midfield with 6.5 being the cheapest. The cheap benchies will be defenders and forwards.

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    3. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Where were no obvious candidates when the game was released this time last year either.

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    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Give it time. Might be a loan move for someone like Amad, who played well in the Championship.

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    5. Calculated Risks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      The 5 mill mid options seem a lot better than 4.5 ones.
      Two 4 mill Defs and a 5 mill mid for me at present on my bench which is cheaper than 3 x 4.5 players

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  7. Limbo
    • 13 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Anyone know where you can manage your FFS subscription? Can;t see it in members area or profile...?

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    1. Limbo
      • 13 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Got it:

      https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/profiles/%5Busername%5D#/edit/account

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    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Clicking Edit Profile on your grav privides you with a renewal date and the option to cancel if that helps.

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  8. WVA
    • 7 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Where are we are with the Brighton keepers?

    Steele
    TAA Shaw Gabriel
    Bruno Saka Son Mitoma Mbeumo
    Haaland Gakpo/Nkunku

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Currently have Vergruggen. Assume he would be first choice.

      I imagine I'll end up with either him or Flekken.

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        They're both 4.5. We'll know who's first choice by the time the season starts

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    2. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 2 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      They just signed Verbruggen from Anderlecht for 16m. Think he will probably be 1st choice but just guessing at this point

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  9. N00B
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Thoughts on this draft without Liverpool and Chelsea players?

    Flekken
    Shaw Stones Gabriel
    Rashford Son Saka Foden Mitoma
    Haaland Jesus

    Bench: Areola, Botman, Beyer, Surridge

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  10. Nate(U)dog(ie)
    • 3 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Uhhh do 17 teams really have green keeper kits this season or is the PL app bugging on me?

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    1. Who let Udogie out?
      • 1 Year
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Goalkeeper have their own kits that were not unveiled until today. Only keeper kits of Arsenal and Crystal Palace were unveiled.

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    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Tis the traditional keeper colours.

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  11. Moxon
    • 9 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Rashford or Bruno + 0.5m?

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    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      I felt like Bruno was a bit unlucky on the eye test last year. Could have posted some big numbers.

      Rashford is very streaky, when he's running hot it's him.

      Maybe Bruno is the safer pick to start with?

      I'm leaning to Bruno, but most leaning to Rashers. What you thinking?

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      1. Moxon
        • 9 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Currently on Rashford as don't need the 0.5m elsewhere. However, if I need to save funds in future drafts I wouldn't be opposed to the switch

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      I'm on Bruno.

      I like the consistency and the penalties. But that's not to say I don't think Rashford is a good option as well. Could easily see myself going for both to start the season.

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  12. JAC THE CAT
    • 10 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Any 4.5 forwards with a sniff of minutes?

    Any 5.0 forwards worth the extra 0.5?

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    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      No and no

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      1. Who let Udogie out?
        • 1 Year
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Choose 4.5m forward that have no chance of playing because their price will not decrease due to no one owning them. If you are picking 4.5m forward don't pick Surridge or any player with high % of selection from other managers.

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        1. TheTinman
          • 8 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          I agree with this.

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        2. asquishypotato
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Not necessarily the right logic, just the less owners the less needed to hit that transfers out threshold

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        3. Critical Observer
          • 7 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Players owned by 0% will still drop due to the gravity effect built in the algorithm.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Woodrow was the only 4.5m that had decent game time last season I think. Made 32 apps for Luton last season, 27 in the league. Just signed a new contract. Seems like the best 4.5m striker option to me.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Sauce: https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2023/july/cauley-woodrow-contract/

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Rob Edwards, The Gaffer: “Cauley has had a frustrating time since we came in. When we arrived he was just coming back from injury and worked extremely hard to get himself fit.

          “He may not have been starting matches, but he was coming on a lot as the first sub to be introduced and was always very important, whether we were winning or losing games.

          “I thought he was excellent when he started against Rotherham and Reading, but unfortunately he hurt himself again, and although he tried really hard to come back for the play-off semi-final, he then broke down again which ruled him out for the final.

          “Looking back, Cauley arguably scored the most important goal after we came in, which was against Norwich at home on Boxing Day. Down to ten men, we went for it and put him on and thankfully he did what we know he can do.

          “He scored a brilliant goal and I think that really got the whole thing going for us. A home win, the first for a while – it got a lot of belief going and helped create a connection between us and the supporters. It really helped us, so Cauley played a huge part in us building momentum.

          “He still chipped in with goals, but it was his all-round play, his work-rate, which again we know that we need, that’s what we are about.

          “He’s a local lad and he’s had a little bit of Premier League experience in the past with Fulham, so he’ll be desperate to try and get some more. He’ll be someone who will be very hungry now to come back, try and impress and show what he’s about.

          “He’s a brilliant human being as well. I love seeing him around the place, always smiling, always gives everything, so I’m really pleased that he’s agreed to extend his contract with us.”

          I like what I hear.

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          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Hmm, mostly substitute cameos. Not ideal.

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            1. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              Any minutes is ideal for a 4.5m striker. When WCs come around, people will bring in the 4.5m striker with the most points, and that will likely be Woodrow. 1pt is better than 0pts.

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          2. JAC THE CAT
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Perfect!

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  13. Who let Udogie out?
    • 1 Year
    11 months, 5 days ago

    First draft:
    Ramsdale Areola
    Shaw Stones Estupinan Bell Baldock
    Martinelli Salah Rashford Andreas Bailey
    Haaland Jesus Muskwe

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    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      You should build a Bailey bridge to get over Bailey!

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      1. Who let Udogie out?
        • 1 Year
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Do you have a good replacement for him in mind?

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        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Billing

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          1. Who let Udogie out?
            • 1 Year
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Billing is CDM. Bailey is a forward.

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            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              Sorry, I was talking about mine fee payment structure.

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    2. The Final Boss
      • 6 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Andreas bailey.. Seems like we are still on last season 🙂

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  14. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    How is this as a draft
    Pickford
    Taa rjames saliba
    Martinelli maddison macallister mitoma bruno
    Haaland jesus

    Steele botman lamptey morris

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    1. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Looks good, trust your gut, and go with the underlying data.

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  15. Who let Udogie out?
    • 1 Year
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Why everyone owns Saka? He is a slow starter.

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      This is Kane sucks in August all over again.

      He's one of the best attackers in the league playing for one of the best teams with really good opening fixtures. It's not that complicated.

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      1. Moxon
        • 9 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Well put

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      2. Who let Udogie out?
        • 1 Year
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Are you sure? Last season Saka was terrible on the beginning of the season. I would love to have him, but I already own Martinelli, Jesus and Ramsdale. Should I replace Martinelli with Saka?

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        1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 3 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Why Jesus when he doesn't bang in many goals?

          You think he starts on fire and digresses?

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          1. Who let Udogie out?
            • 1 Year
            11 months, 5 days ago

            I don't want 2 forward cannon fodders. But you have a good point. I will reconsider replacing Jesus instead of Martinelli.

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          2. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Mins per goal all comps:

            118 = Nelson (589 / 5)
            124 = Jesus (2347 / 19)
            155 = Nketiah (1859 / 12)
            187 = Saka (3744 / 20)
            200 = Odegaard (3404 / 17)
            215 = Martinelli (3440 / 16)

            Mins per goal PL:

            67 = Nelson (201 / 3)
            187 = Martinelli (2805 / 15)
            189 = Jesus (2075 / 11)
            210 = Odegaard (3150 / 15)
            228 = Saka (3194 / 14)
            267 = Nketiah (1069 / 4)

            Seems to bang them in as much as anyone else at Arsenal

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            1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
              • 3 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              He should be banging in more as a striker. Big test this season he needs to get at least 25 in all comps

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            2. Who let Udogie out?
              • 1 Year
              11 months, 5 days ago

              Deulofail the only problem is Saka is owned by 50%. I would easily go without him if this % was lower.

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              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                11 months, 5 days ago

                That won't affect the number of goals he scores, so you're okay

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      His hattrick for England was sexy as hell. Still only 21, and he just keeps getting better and better. On pens. Good fixtures. Good price. What's not to love?

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        The close season was very short last year. He's had a proper rest this time.

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    3. I Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Arsenal's best attacking option imo but if you don't want him that's perfectly fine. Odegaard, Martinelli and Jesus are all viable picks.

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  16. Who let Udogie out?
    • 1 Year
    11 months, 5 days ago

    I was a supporter of threemium at the start of last season. This season threemium is almost impossible.

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  17. Who let Udogie out?
    • 1 Year
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Is TAA worth 8m?

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    1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 3 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      No

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Without Trent I struggle to spend the money. While I don't think he's the best value player, I think he's involved in the best value combination of players.

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      1. The Mentaculus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 2 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Kind of thought the same but, with a couple extra trimmings of 0.5, I'd rather turn one of my mid-priced mids into Salah & just start with a really cheap defence

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          By having my most expensive defender at 5m, there's so much more money to plough into midfield. And yeh, i know the 'Trent's as good as a midfielder' line, but 8m gets you a damn good midfielder this year.

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            The 8m mids are amazing, but Mbeumo at 6.5m is also amazing. And the 3 Arsenal player limit is really limiting. Personally not a fan of the Spurs guys, Son and Maddison.

            Also, and I know this won't be popular, but I think Sterling could be the best value player in the game. Obviously waiting for pre-season though of course...

            So the stacked options in midfield kind of adds a lot of value to the likes of Trent and Jesus, who have very little competition in their respective positions.

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            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              I kinda see it the opposite. In addition to Mbeumo, my other mids as it stands are:
              Salah, Rashford, Saka and Foden.
              I can easily shift one of the 8.5-7.5 assets to the likes of Bruno, Ode, Marti, Havertz, Grealish, Son, Maddi, Sterling, Jota, Luiz and whoever I've forgotten.
              If you have 3 or 4 mids in the bracket, you can be very flexible going forward. But if you've tied up money in Trent, you're a bit restricted (unless you've forgone Salah for another 8m mid).

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              1. Piggs Boson
                • 12 Years
                11 months, 5 days ago

                At this point I may as well just post my current team:

                Vergruggen
                TAA - Shaw - Botman
                Rashford - Saka - Martinelli - Sterling - Mbeumo
                Haaland - Jesus

                Areola - Anderson - Beckenbeyer - Woodrow

                I'm struggling to remove a single 0.5m out of that front 7, I adore every single one. And the two 4.0m defenders give me that crucial 5.5m defensive slot. Bench is dodgy, but It's a compromise I'm happy to make for that 11.

                The flexibility in midfield you mentioned would be attained through Martinelli. Being the one you could remove for any bandwagon, and then put the money elsewhere.

                I guess our key difference is how we rate the City and Spurs mids.

                Trent will surely be the highest scoring defender by a distance. He's kind of unique. He can smash in 6pt goals at any time be it from FK or open play, and his assist potential is unrivalled in defence. His performance for England really lit a fire in my eye for Trent. The other cheap defenders don't come close to his attacking threat imo, and that makes him valuable. Whereas midfield has lots of alternatives. I haven't even mentioned Mitoma yet...

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        2. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          I think Trent is better value than Salah personally. And I love the likes of Rashford, Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli.

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          1. The Mentaculus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 2 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            If I go with a 5 / 4.5. / 4.5 / 4.5 / 4 structure at the back, I can afford:
            Salah Saka Martinelli Rashford Mitoma
            Haaland Wissa
            I'm quite into that at the moment

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            1. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              I like it, it's v strong. But I think I prefer the Jesus and Trent combo, given how little I plan to captain Salah.

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          2. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Oh, I see what you've done. You've gone TAA over Salah. That's the equivalent of my Salah+4.5 defender to your Trent+9m mid. Yeah, horses for courses, although Salah is my captain when Haaland is not chosen.

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  18. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    If I went no Salah I still wouldn't go Trent. I just think the value isn't there relative to what you could do investing that money in midfield.

    Pickford Areola
    Shaw Ake Gabriel Botman Baldock
    Rashford Bruno Saka Maddison Diaz
    Haaland Jesus 4.5m

    A) Salah, Brownhill, Mitoma
    B) Rashford, Maddison, Diaz

    I could see myself going B to start with the thought to WC back to Salah once the budget options present themselves.

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    1. Who let Udogie out?
      • 1 Year
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Gabriel is garbage(I'm Arsenal fan). Choose Zinchenko instead. He is a beast when he is fit.

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      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 3 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Gabriel is not garbage, he's prone to the odd error but is a better option then Zincenko who spend half of the time on the sidelines.

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      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Being a fan doesn't make you knowledgable.

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        1. Who let Udogie out?
          • 1 Year
          11 months, 5 days ago

          I think Zinch have more points per game but he is injury prone.

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          1. TheTinman
            • 8 Years
            11 months, 4 days ago

            Gabriel has a bigger goal threat

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    2. Who let Udogie out?
      • 1 Year
      11 months, 5 days ago

      B

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    3. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      There is a month of transfers, friendlies and additional players to be added.

      I bet you don't even have 8 of these players come gw1. You are wasting your time.

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        I'm fairly certain at least 8 of these players will be in my team come GW1.

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  19. Moxon
    • 9 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Who is your pick of the 4.5m GKs?

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Possibly whichever 4.5 takes the #1 spot at Brighton or Brentford.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        ^ This

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      2. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Yes if Raya leaves then it's gonna be Flekken no brainer. Brighton defence I don't trust tho.

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    2. The Mentaculus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 2 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Flekken if Raya leaves

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    3. I Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Pickford

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    4. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Johnstone

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  20. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    New team name: Cow Pat Kai

    (Complete with a beautiful brown kit)
    (Khao Phat Kai = Thai for egg fried Rice)

    If you can find a way for me to fit in Durian fruit (as in Jurrien Timber), I will be eternally grateful

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Holding a Saka Jurrien

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      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Too long, sorry/thanks

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    2. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Cannot help you, but Youtube cats reacting to the smell of durian. It's a hoot.

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        I eat durian regularly - it's delicious and doesn't smell if you get it at the right time.

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        1. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          I've never had it but I would like to try.

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    3. aussie-trav
      • 11 Years
      11 months, 4 days ago

      New team name: sakameenutz

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  21. Zenith UK
    • 7 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Just curious any update on the Cancelo situation?

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    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Haven't seen anything recently but can't see him staying.

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  22. Calculated Risks
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    Anyone going for one team goalkeepers 4.5 and 4.0?
    By my reckoning (at present) you can pick from 8 teams: Bournemouth, Burnley, Everton, Fulham, Luton, Forest, Sheff U, West Ham all will give you an 8.5 costing unless they buy.

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Add Brighton and Brentford when Raya and Sanchez leave

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      1. Calculated Risks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Brighton would be 9 still (Steele and Verbruggen), Brentford would be 8.5 tho

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      2. I Member
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Not Brighton. Verbruggen + Steele = 9m

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    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Currently on Pickford and Areola as there's some talk the latter could take the number 1 spot from Fabianski but yeah if that doesn't happen I'll just have the Everton 4.0.

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      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • 7 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        That's my current choice as well.

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        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          I thought I was being clever having Olsen as my 4m, thinking Martinez could go to Chelsea or United late on. But I've taken soundings here are opted for Areola for now.

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          1. I Member
            • 8 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Even if that happened you'd think Villa would buy a new keeper.

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  23. The Mighty Hippo
    • 7 Years
    11 months, 5 days ago

    How does this early go at a draft look?

    Pickford
    TAA | Gabriel | Shaw
    Saka | Rashford | Maddison | Mitoma | Mbuemo
    Haaland | Watkins
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Areola | Botman | Beyer | Surridge

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    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Tis a good draft to commence proceedings.

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  24. Noooisy
      11 months, 5 days ago

      Help on Brighton mid situation?

      I didnt play last season so didnt follow closely

      Mitoma looks to be most popular here but has the least minute played. Is there something I should know?

      Gross looks the most nailed but least popular too.

      Is it roll the dice and stick or is there more to it?

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      1. The Mentaculus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 2 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Mitoma started the season as backup to Trossard but after WC De Zerbi described him as unbenchable. BHA had a crazy schedule at the end and suffered widespreaf fatigue after their FA Cup run. Groß split his time between RB (covering Veltman) and the no6 role. Should mostly play the latter & is likely on pens. Lots of new talent coming through like Enciso who may well be the new no10 with MacA gone, might share mins with Joao Pedro though. March should be fairly nailed RW (but there's also Buonanotte). Big hole alongside Groß if/when Caicedo leaves, no obvious replacement there yet

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        1. Noooisy
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Thankyou very much for all of the info. Mitoma does sound like the obvious pick but all options are awesome.

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      2. Who let Udogie out?
        • 1 Year
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Ramsdale Areola
        Shaw Ake Akanji Estupinan Bell
        Saka Martinelli Salah Rashford Andreas
        Haaland 2x fodder

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      3. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        If Kane goes overseas, the game is down to two bigger hitters with KdB kinda hovering. That’s it. Son & Bruno back in the pack. Nothing else.

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        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          If KDB can hover I’ll definitely bring him in!

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        2. OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          And... Feel there's something missing here. A question? An action we can take?

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          1. Jafooli
            • 12 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Yeah, just an observation, nothing more really…

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            1. OShaughnessy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              Hey, who knows maybe a big signing on the horizon. Or, we always have players who make the leap.

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      4. Our Tiny Windows
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Hey guys. Love you.

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        1. The Mentaculus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 2 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Those of us putting Salah in our drafts? 😉

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          1. The Knights Template
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            He’s in mine!

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            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 5 days ago

              And Captain!

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      5. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        I kinda wanna rotate Beyer Baldock Bell for the 3rd defender and pump funds ahead. Maybe even Branthwaite or Van Hecke if they play. Gabriel and Pinnock the other 2 defenders. Their xG is super high for defenders and are in good defences. Doesn't seem worth it spending too much in defence this year.

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        1. Jafooli
          • 12 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          Think it’s worth having someone in the 5.0-5.5m range in case you need to jump on a massive bandwagon without 2 x transfers?

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        2. The Mentaculus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 2 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          I imagine I'll shift to Trippier, and maybe Trent (after having a look at Pool's new tactics), on WC but a cheap starting defence is very appealing. Isn't it usually the case that most teams (City especially) struggle to string together consistent CS in the opening weeks anyway?

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      6. Who let Udogie out?
        • 1 Year
        11 months, 5 days ago

        A)Andreas+Bailey
        B)Mitoma+fodder

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        1. WVA
          • 7 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          A is very last season

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      7. WVA
        • 7 Years
        11 months, 5 days ago

        Brighton keepers are a no go for me now they've signed Verbruggen and Steele is ridiculously also priced at 4.5

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        1. I Member
          • 8 Years
          11 months, 5 days ago

          No appeal for me anyway when you can have Estupinan's attacking threat for only 0.5 more.

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          1. OShaughnessy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            11 months, 5 days ago

            Why not both?

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