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An intriguing clash at the Etihad gets the day’s Premier League football underway.

Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur is Saturday’s 12.30pm BST kick-off, with this fixture being another stern test of the early progress that the visitors have made under Thomas Frank.

The Lilywhites performed admirably in their last encounter against elite opposition, running Paris Saint-Germain mightily close in the UEFA Super Cup. They had been thumped by Bayern Munich a week earlier, however.

Frank, interestingly, doesn’t go with the ‘five at the back’ set-up he used against PSG.

Many, including ourselves, thought Kevin Danso would come in for this fixture, with Brennan Johnson making way. Johnson, however, keeps his place in what looks like a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3.

The two alterations he has made were expected, at least: Joao Palhinha and Rodrigo Bentancur are back after their Gameweek 1 breathers to replace Archie Gray and Lucas Bergvall in midfield.

Richarlison again leads the line, with Dominic Solanke warming the bench.

Pep Guardiola has also made two changes and, like Frank, has gone more attacking than perhaps anticipated.

Rayan Cherki gets his first Premier League start since his summer move, with Omar Marmoush also coming in.

Jeremy Doku and Bernardo Silva drop to the bench.



Tijjani Reijnders may be slightly more curbed than last week, then, but with Rico Lewis inverting into central midfield from right-back, the Dutchman may still get the odd chance to creep forward.

Ederson is back in the squad after missing the win over Wolverhampton Wanderers through illness. He has to settle for a place on the bench, however, as James Trafford starts in goal again.

LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Trafford, Lewis, Stones, Dias, Ait-Nouri, Gonzalez, Reijnders, Cherki, Bobb, Marmoush, Haaland.

Subs: Ederson, Ake, Doku, Rodri, Bernardo, Nunes, O’Reilly, Khusanov, Foden.

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Vicario, Porro, Romero, Van de Ven, Spence, Sarr, Bentancur, Palhinha, Kudus, Johnson, Richarlison.

Subs: Kinsky, Danso, Vuskovic, Davies, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert, Tel, Solanke.

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  1. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Is Reijnders playing the same position as he did vs Wolves?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Now he is

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Ah ok

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 8 Years
          7 months, 24 days ago

          Cherki was ahead of him before he got subbed off

    2. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Think Cherki ruined him? Been invisible

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Spurs ruined him 😛

    3. el polako
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Just not the same opposition.

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Fair, not gonna complain just glad I had him GW1

  2. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Hope Trafford enjoyed his spell in the first team.

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      For a while now we’ve been hearing that it’s very difficult to find a good center forward, looks like it’s even harder to find a goalkeeper judging by all the games so far.

  3. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Last night everyone was clambering to buy Haaland before he rose 0.1 (Watkins & Palmer > Haaland & Anderson very popular).
    Bet there’s some buyers remorse after this game - and that’s before potential injuries/suspensions in the remaining games.
    Patience is a virtue in this game!

    1. RICICLE
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Just never had any desire to get Haaland, it was him or Salah and I trust Salah way more.

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Always back the mid, more routes to points

    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      I think Watkins scores today and then has very decent fixtures, found it amusing all the people on here rushing to sell last night

  4. panda07
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Who was it who authorised for Sim Simma and Classix to have a day off at the same time?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      BBC

      1. panda07
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        I knew it!

    2. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      I'm so lost. Are there even games today? How would I know?

      1. panda07
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        This forum will eventually eat itself without the likes of Sim and Classix..

  5. tiger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Vice captain Watkins...good luck, we're counting on you

    1. La Roja
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Same here. Rodon coming on for Palmer (c).

      Hatty from Watkins and 15 pointer from Rodon.

      That’s would be such a Lalaland thing to do

      1. tiger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        For Palmer, I will have Guiu if he makes an appearance, but otherwise it will be Gudmundsson from Leeds. So not looking great from the bench 😀

  6. Feanor
    • 16 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Bobb off

    1. Jet5605
      • 11 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      No need for that

  7. The Knights Template
    • 12 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Prince of the Pine on, but has he forgotten how to play?

  8. The Knights Template
    • 12 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Trafford shocking

  9. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Can we just get a 0-0 in the Burnley Sunderland game pls.

  10. Deulofail
    • 10 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Porro OG needed

    1. La Roja
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Behave!

    2. RICICLE
      • 3 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Just a goal 😉

  11. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    I'm not saying you should never change a winning team, but Pep bringing in Marmoush and Cherki is so frustrating? Perhaps he thought Frank would go with how he setup against PSG in a 532, if so, great credit to Frank in surprising him.

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Pep is his own worst enemy at times, he really is!

  12. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Foden like Benjamin Button, getting younger

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Did his ankle already

  13. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    What the hell Trafford?

  14. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Actually could do with a city consolation goal. Porro 2nd on my bench (not gonna sub in) and there’s a lot of people with 2 Spurs defenders so will hurt the rank if they get a cleanie.

    1. Under my Cucurella
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Ditto

  15. Kaneyonero
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    C'mon Earl

  16. Jet5605
    • 11 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Must have beem a fair few hits to get Robot in this week. A few WCs too ofc

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      You can always count on the masses to play each new game week based on the previous weeks points

      1. Jet5605
        • 11 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Yup, points chasing at its finest.

  17. tiger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Porro YC

    10 minutes...will City bust the Spurs CS?

    I am guessing they will in the last minute.

  18. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Imagine a lot of people will be getting a Porro CS off the bench for Palmer

    1. tiger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      I had to play him because of the Konsa RC last week.
      He just got a YC, will probably concede soon now too

    2. mixology
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Agreed

    3. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Dorgu for me with Porro 2nd.
      At least he picked up a yellow card just now 🙂

    4. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Yep or vdv

    5. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Or vdv to

  19. BobbyDoesNotLook
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Porro with useless yc.

  20. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Pretty deadline Captain Switch from Haaland > Saka. Keep the ball.So far so good

  21. Ruinenlust
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Is Reijnders asian?

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Reindeer is from Lapland I believe

    2. Deulofail
      • 10 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Dutch. Indonesian mother.

    3. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      "Reijnders is of Indonesian descent through his Moluccan mother"

      -Wikipedia

  22. Deulofail
    • 10 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Porro YC needed

  23. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Is Doku any better than a headless chicken??

  24. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Porro just a couple more defcons please

    1. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Y/c to

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Imagine they messed up and it counted as a defcon lol

  25. Pedersen
    • 7 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Thomas Frank have done some solid work with Spurs

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      A real football manager, not like that charlatan Postecoglu.

  26. Gizzachance
    • 11 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Wished I would have stuck with vdv instead of porro and banked 1 mill !

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      I’m gonna sell him for Munoz in GW4, so he’s a nice placeholder at that price point

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Same, hence the 5.5 porro

  27. PartyTime
    • 4 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Haaland & Kudus are both absent today. Nice!

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Is Kudus playing?

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 24 days ago

        Been subbee

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          7 months, 24 days ago

          *subbed

  28. PascalCygan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    All those new Haaland and Reijnders new owners ruining them for us long-time GW1 owners 🙂

    I don’t remember the last 12:30 captaincy that went well for me

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Yeah I avoid early captains at all cost

  29. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    Anyone know how to find a list of the most transferred in and most sold players for the GW?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      Transfers page, sort by transfers in/out

  30. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 24 days ago

    City already look better with Rodri & Foden on.
    Rodri just coming back from injury, so understandable he didn’t start. But no idea why he doesn’t play Foden - he’s miles better than Doku & Cherki!

    1. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      7 months, 24 days ago

      And Bobb