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Saturday’s Premier League football is not over yet, as we’ve still got one more match to come.

It’s Sunderland v Arsenal, which kicks off at 20:00 BST.

TEAM NEWS

The team news is about as straightforward as it comes, with both clubs unchanged from last weekend.

Kai Havertz, Christos Tzolis, Myles Lewis-Skelly and Riccardo Calafiori had dropped to the bench for Wednesday’s win at Napoli but all four are reinstated tonight.

Midweek starters Victor Gyokeres, Eberechi Eze, Mikel Merino and Piero Hincapie are back among the substitutes, then.

Jurrien Timber joins them on the visitors’ bench after recovering from injury.

Cristhian Mosquera hasn’t recovered in time, however.

LINE-UPS

Sunderland XI: Roefs, Mukiele, Danso, Ballard, Reinildo, Meunier, Sadiki, Xhaka, Le Fee, Angulo, Brobbey.

Subs: Ellborg, Methalie, Talbi, Rigg, O’Nien, Alderete, Isidor, Hume, Fofana.

Arsenal XI: Raya, White, Gabriel, Konsa, Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly, Rice, Saka, Odegaard, Tzolis, Havertz.

Subs: Kepa, Hincapie, Eze, Timber, Gyokeres, Madueke, Merino, Zubimendi, Guimaraes.


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Enjoy!


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  1. Ignasi M
    • 9 Years
    9 hours, 2 mins ago

    will look to buy Saka next, methinks Gakpo vs Saka for me.

    1. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      8 hours, 33 mins ago

      You can afford that? Nice

  2. Clintymints
    • 17 Years
    9 hours, 1 min ago

    3 out of 3. Sold Bruno before goals, sold Mbuemo before his goal, sold Saka before his goal today

    Follow me for next weeks tips oh who not to sell

    for free no sub required

    1. Van der Faart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 hours, 33 mins ago

      Unlucky on the Saka one this week in fairness

    2. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      8 hours, 32 mins ago

      Stop making transfers

      1. Clintymints
        • 17 Years
        8 hours, 30 mins ago

        I can’t

        1. Utopsis
          • 6 Years
          8 hours, 28 mins ago

          Well...

  3. Brosstan
    • 12 Years
    9 hours ago

    On 74 with Bruno, Gvardiol and De Cuyper to go. Season saved?

    1. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      8 hours, 59 mins ago

      Check again next GW

    2. have you seen cyan
      • 7 Years
      8 hours, 58 mins ago

      Nice, 73 here with Haaland, Gross, and Gvard left.

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 hours, 57 mins ago

      huge score

      bruno to win the premium derby tomorrow 😀

    4. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      8 hours, 54 mins ago

      Crazy good score with no chips

    5. Warby84
      • 11 Years
      8 hours, 40 mins ago

      60 with Bruno/D Cuyp to go

    6. Old Bull
      • 13 Years
      8 hours, 35 mins ago

      Triple Cap Palmer only bought me 15pts but 76 with Haaland and Gvardiol to go. Currently just under 14k.

    7. Kroenius
      4 mins ago

      On 46 with 14 pts from Raya staring at me from my bench (started Verbruggen over him) Still got Haaland,Bruno,Stach,Dedic & Verbruggen to play

  4. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 hours, 59 mins ago

    The Solio Analytics Optimized team makes it into the top 1k! No Haaland though
    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/en/entry/3333334/event/4

    1. Brosstan
      • 12 Years
      8 hours, 31 mins ago

      Who cares

      1. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 hours, 30 mins ago

        As AI gets better and better, will be harder to compete with these model based teams!

        1. Zalk
          • 15 Years
          8 hours, 16 mins ago

          Inclinde to agree, who cares? Engaging in fpl with friends, co-workers and online is what makes it fun. AI will never be interesting or engaging enough...

    2. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      8 hours, 31 mins ago

      Can we stop talking about this stuff?

      It’s slowly ruining the game

    3. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      8 hours, 29 mins ago

      That's worrying

    4. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      8 hours, 29 mins ago

      Rubbish, AI wouldn’t be so heroic to deliberately start Hume vs Arsenal knowing he wouldn’t play only to get Leaf sexy Davis 14 come in off the bench

      #micDrop

    5. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 hours, 28 mins ago

      the one hope would be these algorithm teams will never win fpl at least

    6. pjomara
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 20 mins ago

      TC Palmer 😆

    7. Clintymints
      • 17 Years
      8 hours, 2 mins ago

      Bleak

      I’m keeping it very in-ai by using my own thoughts every week

      It’s not working out well

    8. Old Bull
      • 13 Years
      7 hours, 56 mins ago

      The best way to beat AI is to choose the irrational option. Humanity needs to remember that.

  5. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    • 9 Years
    8 hours, 57 mins ago

    The amount of fpl managers praying for Hume not to come on at the end there!

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 7 Years
      8 hours, 30 mins ago

      His 3 owners?

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        8 hours, 29 mins ago

        He’s more highly owned than you think because of those first 2 fixtures

      2. Utopsis
        • 6 Years
        8 hours, 28 mins ago

        Just him, as absolutely nobody else is starting Hume this GW

        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          8 hours, 26 mins ago

          Tbf Sunderland solid at home and only really conceded one goal

          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            8 hours, 25 mins ago

            Other option was Shaw and City defo scoring more than what Arsenal have vs Sunderland

            1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
              • 9 Years
              8 hours, 24 mins ago

              Just checked Hume EO is 4% so quite low tbf

              1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
                • 9 Years
                8 hours, 24 mins ago

                Though probably lower now after sales today when he didn’t play

          2. Utopsis
            • 6 Years
            8 hours, 23 mins ago

            But he's lost his place last GW, so huge threat of 1 pt cameo same as last week. Not to mention he's playing the best team in the league.

            Rooted to 3rd on my bench, would've played Van Ewijk over him

            1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
              • 9 Years
              8 hours, 15 mins ago

              Yes I know but 4.5 defender not going to be a priority to be mass sold I wouldn’t have thought…

              Personally will get rid on WC when I play it

  6. Qaiss
    • 10 Years
    8 hours, 56 mins ago

    Delighted we won, Konsa and Gabriel owner so I’m glad I started with Konsa

    But the pricing of Konsa and Pedro has already damaged the first half of the season 4 weeks in

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 28 mins ago

      Konsa was priced while at Villa.

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 hours, 26 mins ago

      the pedro pricing was ridiculous tbh, was like the one player you saw in all pre-season drafts

      wasnt he like over 5 points per start last season and this season chelsea were predicted to be much better. oh well

      1. Qaiss
        • 10 Years
        8 hours, 25 mins ago

        Yeah I don’t know what they’re basing it on, if they now have AI doing their pricing but he should have been at least £8.5m. Think he was £8m last year and everyone started with him?

        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          8 hours, 18 mins ago

          Yeah I think AI must have been used - AI wouldn’t be able to personally interpret the default popularity of a given player.

          Eg someone like Joao Pedro pound for pound would always be more popular than say Thiago, due to team played for, general credence as a player etc.

          So a human has to assess that default popularity and price higher to even the scales.

        2. F4L
          • 11 Years
          8 hours, 15 mins ago

          yeah think it was around 8, agreed. would hope they do the pricing manually tbh, so many variables to take into consideration outside of what their expected points were for last season (or whatever they might use) if it was automated

      2. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        8 hours, 22 mins ago

        He was a bit of a troll last year tbf, and Welbeck signing defo made me worry.

        Glad I bought him this week though and will likely keep I think

    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 hours, 23 mins ago

      9 player game effectively, already feeling a bit templately

      JPedro they messed up on, I don't quite get why they made him 7.5m and Isak 9.0m

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        8 hours, 21 mins ago

        Isak unplayable on his day though, those last 2 seasons at Newcastle he was sensational, IIRC he had a higher ownership than Haaland at one point in that season.

        His ceiling defo higher than Joao Pedro if he can’t hit those heights and pens apparently to boost his confidence.

        Will be interesting once he starts to bang them in again (Ipswich don’t really count as we know as they were horrendous)

  7. Khalico
    • 11 Years
    8 hours, 54 mins ago

    Would you hold Gakpo or move him to Tav/Schade?

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 27 mins ago

      Hold for now

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 hours, 25 mins ago

      havent seen extended highlights, but by the looks of it barcola/munoz were disappointing today , and tbh midweek as well no liverpool winger really stood out. currently gakpo by far their best option on the wing so would keep for now until he loses form.

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        8 hours, 19 mins ago

        *i mean with gakpo i think its promising youve seen iraola use him on the left, the right and up top. clearly iraola rates him, being able to play all 3 positions should up his mins as well

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 24 mins ago

      Like Schade but Gakpo has fixtures and Pool needs him playing

  8. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 hours, 54 mins ago

    Pedro, Rogers and Havertz likely risers
    30+ likely fallers

    1. #1 Arne Engels Fan
      • 2 Years
      8 hours, 22 mins ago

      Easy to see why so many fail at this game

      Just rage hooking their players 1/3 days into a GW

  9. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 10 Years
    8 hours, 52 mins ago

    My late change of FH was Odegaard (3) to Tavernier (8) and Henderson who didn’t play, Kinsky back-up (7) to Raya (14) 🙂

    1. Mr Turnip 1
      • 1 Year
      8 hours, 6 mins ago

      Congrats, that’s a huge swing!

  10. SalahFingers
    • 8 Years
    8 hours, 50 mins ago

    Any opinions of which to do?

    A) Bruno F -> Rogers
    B) Semenyo -> Rogers
    C) Bruno F + Tzolis -> Saka + Rogers (-4)
    D) None

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 22 mins ago

      D

      1. SalahFingers
        • 8 Years
        8 hours, 17 mins ago

        Thanks.

    2. SalahFingers
      • 8 Years
      8 hours, 22 mins ago

      or E) Bruno F + Semenyo + Tzolis -> Saka + Palmer + Rogers (-8)

      1. #1 Arne Engels Fan
        • 2 Years
        8 hours, 19 mins ago

        Lol

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 20 mins ago

      Your not allowed to drop BrunoF before Fulham - rulze

      1. SalahFingers
        • 8 Years
        8 hours, 18 mins ago

        Yeah that makes sense. I need to log out right now, thanks

    4. Brazooka
      • 13 Years
      8 hours, 17 mins ago

      D

      1. SalahFingers
        • 8 Years
        8 hours, 14 mins ago

        Thanks.

  11. Fifa las vegas
    • 14 Years
    8 hours, 47 mins ago

    Both Bruno and Haaland really make potential transfers difficult. Can’t get the likes of MGW/Rogers as only 3rd even without dropping Mbeumo.

    If I downgraded one I could get them and maybe Saka. Tough one to call, minute you do it one of them goes on a mad one

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 18 mins ago

      6.0 attackers are golden
      Just pick the right ones

    2. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      8 hours, 18 mins ago

      It’s nice being in the sixty’s knowing Haaland & Bruno tomorrow followed by Dom under the lights.

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 hours, 12 mins ago

        Pity I’m not in a similar scenario. Moved armband to Isak at 1.29 and put Gakpo back into the starting XI with Kluivert 1st sub. Just Lammens, Bruno and DCL here on 51

  12. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 hours, 46 mins ago

    Anyone considering Palmer to Saka? I was thinking of it after this game, although do wonder if Arteta will plan him limping off next GW so he misses the IB!

    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      8 hours, 17 mins ago

      Nah won’t get 96th minute pens every week

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        8 hours, 17 mins ago

        And Palmer due a pen lol

    2. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      8 hours, 17 mins ago

      Half the games just gone Palmer Cap or TC give them time to stop sobbing first

  13. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 hours, 43 mins ago

    The tough decision is what 3 Arsenal to choose and sticking to them. Thinking of activating WC.

    Currently own Gabriel, Calafiori and Tzolis
    WC was looking like Timber, Calafiori and Odegaard. If I want Saka, I need to go Konsa, Calfafiori and Saka with further downgrades elsewhere…

    1. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 hours, 9 mins ago

      Hold it for one more gw4 and play wc in gw6. I’m at least glad I resisted pulling wc trigger in gw4. Hope I can be early on Timber

    2. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 hours, 7 mins ago

      raya + 4m gets rid of mind numbing gk rotation
      konsa 4.5 total gift
      saka pennos

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 hours, 50 mins ago

        I was saying since pre season that I thought Raya was a boring pick and a poor use of an Arsenal spot when Cala and Mosq etc could give you cs and defcon / attacking returns for .5 less. Eating humble pie after tonight’s performance albeit I don’t think the logic was wrong

        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          7 hours, 46 mins ago

          You're not, realistically his ceiling is 6 points for 6m, not great.

  14. Stimps
    • 13 Years
    8 hours, 41 mins ago

    Play

    A) Sangare
    B) Konsa (double up with Cala)

    1. Mr Turnip 1
      • 1 Year
      8 hours, 4 mins ago

      B

      1. Mr Turnip 1
        • 1 Year
        8 hours, 4 mins ago

        Though who else do you have in the team? Playing both is kinda tempting…

  15. Nightf0x
    • 11 Years
    8 hours, 40 mins ago

    Kinsky (verb)
    Cala konsa ewjik (shaw hume)
    Foden schade bruno palmer (slater)
    Haland dcl pedro

    Initial thoughts, which?

    A) foden to ode
    B) hume to egan/giles
    C) hume shaw -4 to egan/giles aina/dedic/AMN
    D) foden hume -4 to ode aina/dedic/AMN

  16. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 hours, 38 mins ago

    Didn’t see games yet but how did MGW and KDH play?
    Worth sticking with the original plan of
    Rogers and Szob to MGW and KDH with 2 of 3FT for BB this week?

    1. Hantakun
      • 16 Years
      7 hours, 50 mins ago

      KDH has been a bit meh the last few gw’s. MGW seems to be getting sharper

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 hours, 41 mins ago

        Thanks interesting cause it don’t have the cash to get to MGW in one move. Maybe I keep Rogers get MGW and a different move to fund Szob to MGW

  17. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    8 hours, 38 mins ago

    Keep or sell tzolis for any mid up to 6.8m?

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 hours, 7 mins ago

      I thought he looked good tonight and had got into really good positions but just not picked out.

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        8 hours, 5 mins ago

        Ok cheers pr9bably keep

  18. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    • 9 Years
    8 hours, 37 mins ago

    People seem to be making so many transfers this season.

    Meanwhile I’m sat here with no hits and WC still to spare, weird!

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 hours, 8 mins ago

      Yeah, I’ve had no hits either and still have my WC. It’s the value I’m haemorrhaging that’s making me want to pull the trigger. Lost on Tzolis, Mbuemo and others and now staring at a Lammens drop tonight. May pull the trigger

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        8 hours, 7 mins ago

        Yeah and that would make me do the same in previous seasons, but everyone knows this season prices aren’t really a problem, as so many players decently or under priced

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 hours, 53 mins ago

          It matters if you want the likes of Haaland, Bruno, Saka and Rogers et al

          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            7 hours, 52 mins ago

            Only if you also get Gabriel I think, which will be rare.

            I haven't chased any team value and have Haaland, Bruno, Palmer, Joao Pedro and Cherki/Rogers.

            1. FPL Blow-In
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 hours, 42 mins ago

              Yeah this is achievable but not with Cala and Timber…

    2. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 hours, 7 mins ago

      I usually take hits for fun none this year. Doubt if I have the discipline to continue on this track but I would like to see what my season OR without hits would be.

    3. SalahFingers
      • 8 Years
      8 hours, 7 mins ago

      Most people have their WC, and you get 2 this season.

      I don't think people are making more transfers this season compared to the last few.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        8 hours, 5 mins ago

        Seems to be more price changes though, something you wouldn’t see early on in previous seasons because of Wildcards not affecting them.

        So tells me people are using up more transfers instead, good example is Cherki - didn’t he break the transfers instead record?

        1. SalahFingers
          • 8 Years
          7 hours, 57 mins ago

          Do you have any proof of more price changes because it looks about the same to me. Also, same for the Cherki breaking the record? Of course he's gonna be hugely transferred in: low ownership, did well in the first 2 weeks, about to play Coventry at home. It was probably just coincidence. Watch Schade go up massively this week. That always happens after big scores.

          People have more wildcards this and last season. They also have 2 free hits. These alone save some transfers for people.

          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            7 hours, 54 mins ago

            No I don't tbf, just feels like there are more - but maybe I think that because I haven't Wildcarded yet.

            Either way I do definitely believe more transfers are happening, and I have realised why - the fact the price changes now show on the main site

    4. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      8 hours, 7 mins ago

      Personally with no Salah to worry about affording I’ve not been too bothered about absorbing price drops or missing out on rises knowing it’s quite easy to afford who you want.

      Seems to have not had the same effect on the masses though, wonder if they will build in this increased average transfer activity into the pricing algorithm next season.

    5. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      8 hours, 1 min ago

      It's just clicked - the transparent price changes must be driving most of it.

  19. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 hours, 30 mins ago

    Reckon I can survive 1 more week until the international break to use WC? White injury so annoying. 0.0m itb, 1 FT

    Kinsky (Petrovic)
    White, Shaw, Thomas (De Cuyper, Hume)
    Bruno, Rogers, Cherki, Tzolis (Yirenkyi)
    Haaland, DCL, Joao Pedro

    1. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 hours, 52 mins ago

      Do you know what you want your squad to look like for the rest of the season? If so, I'd pull the trigger.

      I usually know the rough skeleton soon after the window shuts. I don't really see a reason to delay the WC, I think the extra information is a little overrated.

  20. Moon Dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    8 hours, 29 mins ago

    Transparent price changes and bonus being added instantly are really nice additions. Kudos Towers.

    1. It's good but also a shame it takes away the good work other people made with livefpl etc

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        7 hours, 53 mins ago

        They showed the way

  21. paulojdsc
    • 7 Years
    8 hours, 19 mins ago

    So White lost his place for Timber?

    White out, Konsa in? Or he's going to loose soon his place too.

    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      7 hours, 51 mins ago

      White went off injured, would probably have happened sooner rather than later though

  22. Ten Hag of Bud
    • 4 Years
    8 hours, 15 mins ago

    Domino's on X

    we’ve delivered 489,297,478 pizzas since spurs last scored a premier league goal

    LOL