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Newcastle can count themselves a little fortunate remain in the Premier League after their decision to part company with Alan Pardew midway through the previous campaign proved disastrous. Having won seven times and earned 26 points in their first 19 fixtures, the Magpies stuttered to safety under the guidance of John Carver, with three victories and 13 points accrued over the remainder of the season.

In this latest article for members, we assess Newcastle’s faltering campaign, running the rule over their squad in terms of goal threat and creativity ahead of the Steve McClaren era.

Paul Is certain he won't make the same mistakes next season. Follow them on Twitter

  1. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Don't want to come across as negative and I tend to say the same thing every summer on here.

    The work some guys put into rotation pairings is brilliant and I do read through all of them and bookmark some of them too. And I know finding cheap rotation pairs or even triplets is a big part of the summer tinkering fun for lots.

    BUT. What happens if one of the pair finds himself as a benchwarmer or gets injured?

    Do you replace him with a player from the same team to keep your rotation pairing in tact? What if this involves a hit? ( EG. having to move from the 4.5m non-starter to the 5m nailed on option ).

    Or do you get tempted by the shiny bargain that has emerged? ( EG Bellerin ).

    Or do you break up the pairing because you spot a 4.5er has a run of 4 nice fixtures?

    All that planning but in reality how long do any of us keep those rotation partners in tact? 4 GWs? 6 GWs?

    I absolutely see the validity of doing it with keepers. However, as usual, I shall be avoiding rotations and plumping for 5 defenders that just take my fancy fixture-wise or from teams I fancy to do better defensively than the previous years. I tend to not look further than the first 8 to 10 GWs or so. And take it from there 🙂

    It's not a criticism of any of the hot topics or of any posters. I just don't like rotation (H/A or difficulty based). Surely I'm not alone? 😀

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      This is what I keep saying. Imo there's no point in looking anywhere past the first 10, maybe 15, game weeks. So much would have changed by then.

      1. The Train Driver
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I just look at the first 5 games and ignore the rest. Save 2 FT and sub according to the next 5 games. Worked out well so far 🙂

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Rotation rarely works. One expensive and one mid price for me who play most weeks and three cheapo's, picking the one I think will do best that week.

      *Disclaimer. My form is very patchy in this game 😉

      1. Captain Goodwin
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Agree with you guys on this. A new season always brings surprises. Who would have predicted that Southampton would have done so well again with Koeman after selling half their team last season. And Palace's upturn after Pardew moved. Pulis ending up at WBA. Boyd being Burnleys best player. Bellerin breaking into a regular starting position for Arsenal. Van Persie being abysmal under LVG. How amazingly well Sanchez would adapt to the EPL.

        I think before last season most people would have not thought all of these things would have happened based on historical indicators, so who knows what's going to happen!?

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I prioritise getting decent defences over good fixtures. Then put them in a rotation as best I can. That way when the rotation fails, you've got decent defences to fall back on, rather than ones that only work in a rotation.

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yep, nicely put GB.

    4. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      There's alot of rotation talk pre-season, and by the end of it, there's alot of folk saying it wasn't worth the effort. Agree with the keepers, that's pretty much all I'll look to rotate. Not saying it can't work, but it certainly doesn't for me.

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Agreed.

    5. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hit the nail on the head.. Rotating defenders only works on paper.. If one of them gets injured you really are stuck. I generally stick a big defender alongside 2 midpriced ones and get good cheap backup if available/4.0's .. Rotation only works(kinda) with 4.5/4 goalies

  2. The Train Driver
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Looking at my GW38 team from last season, Sanchez and Aguero are orange flagged which they weren't yesterday 😮

    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You're gonna have to take a hit in GW39 🙁

      1. La Roja
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        He kept his wc

        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          phew

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I am not worried I followed Jafooli's advice and saved my wilcard 😎

  3. Mr. Grv
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Guess the player
    EPl
    Defender
    _ A _ _E _ (Surname)

    1. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Larsen ?

    2. Numb
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Eboue

      1. The Train Driver
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        wow

        1. Numb
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks. It was a good first stab - I got it right second time tho

          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            😀

    3. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Baines

    4. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      BAE. But he's suspended for 3 games.

    5. Numb
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Baker

      1. The Train Driver
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        wow x2

        1. Numb
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Oh, I missed a _

          😆

          1. The Train Driver
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            😀

    6. CoolBeans
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Baines

    7. Mr. Grv
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Baines it is 🙂

    8. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Azpilicueta

  4. Just A Hat
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Is there any truth to the rumors that FPL could open up soon?

    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You'll have to wait and see...

    2. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Absolutely none whatsoever

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah.

    4. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      There is rumors on Internet and everything you read here is the truth

  5. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Has Ryan Taylor been signed up by another team yet?

    1. Captain Goodwin
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Nope, lots of championship teams are interested by the sounds of it, but none of them can afford his wage packet

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Shame. A decent fpl pick if fit.

  6. Guy Demel's SH
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else on the fantasy Ashes? How did you do?

    Not sure when the league updates, so hard to tell if my score so far is average or above average etc.

    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      672 with Stokes(c).

      Presume Root captainers will have a fair few more.

    2. ronty
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      639

      Star(c)

    3. Jay_
        10 years, 5 months ago

        630
        Stokes C

      • Guy Demel's SH
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Pretty similar scores then.

        I guess most people will have very similar teams so the captaincy matters even more.

        Although I have had a mare with my Aussie players, having two non starters for them.

      • il Brutto
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        819

    4. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Guess the Fpl forward

      _e_ne_

      1. CoolBeans
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Deeney

      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Betner

      3. Beautiful Game
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        DEENEY

      4. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Rooney

        1. The Train Driver
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Seriously?

          1. Zombie
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Yup. Why not?

    5. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Any rumors United signing new striker now that Rvp is pretty much gone?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Balotelli.

        1. Beautiful Game
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Baxter

      2. Azathoth
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Mitroglou

      3. ronty
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Agent Djibril Cisse

      4. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        "random striker name"

      5. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Jutkiewicz

    6. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Guess the FPL midfielder.

      W A L C O T _

      1. Beautiful Game
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Walcoth?

        1. Bolivian Seaman
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Idiot, Walcota

          1. Beautiful Game
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Idiot, It was a multiple answer question

            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Gibbs?

              1. Beautiful Game
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Good question... But your question hurt me...

                *holds chest and falls down

      2. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Can we have a clue?

      3. CoolBeans
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Boyd?

      4. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        😆

      5. Mr. Grv
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        dimaria ?

    7. Mr. Grv
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Guess the defender EPL
      R _ _ G _ _L

      1. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Rangeel

        1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          😆

        2. Mr. Grv
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Rangeela 😛

    8. Mr. Grv
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Guess the defender EPL
      R _ _ G _ L

      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Rangel

      2. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        oi

      3. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        😆

    9. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Name the player with the anagram of Park farmland

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        No.

      2. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Frank Lampard

        1. Bolivian Seaman
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          🙂

      3. The Gambler.
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Frank Lumplard

      4. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Karp Landfarm.

      5. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Fark Parmland.

    10. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not sure if this has been asked yet but is FPL open?

      1. The Gambler.
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah 2 days ago

    11. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Name the player with the anagram of Shin negotiable

      1. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Leighton Baines

      2. Konig Luther
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Diaby

    12. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Name the FPL player that I am thinking of right now

      1. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Kolarov

        1. The Gambler.
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Wow what a guess. Sooooo close

          1. Zombie
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Send me my prize then - one business class flight ticket from Bangalore-London would do

      2. Bolivian Seaman
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Rooney!

      3. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Daniel.

        1. The Gambler.
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          😀

      4. Mr. Grv
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Fuchs

      5. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Benni McCarthy

    13. Guy Demel's SH
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A and B are two footballers who played for club X sometime after the year 2000.

      Both went on to leave the club.
      A went to Y and won the league.
      B went to Z and also won the league.

      Z and Y are rival clubs.

      A and B were reunited at W.
      This was before A went back to play for X.

      A and B have both won the champions league.

      Name A, B, W, X, Y and Z!

      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        A-Van Bommel
        B-Robben
        W-Bayern
        X-PSV
        Y-Barcelona
        Z- Real Madrid

        1. Guy Demel's SH
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Correct! Someone's seen this one before 😉

        2. Anorak
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Going through it with KoL a few weeks back we realised that Seedorf and Davids come pretty close as an alternative.

          Both played for Ajax (albeit in the 90s)
          Both left
          Seedorf won the league with Milan
          Davids won the league with Juve

          Juve and Milan are (tenuous) rivals

          Both players then played for Inter (though at different times, and before Seedorf played for Milan)

          Davids then later returned to Ajax!

      2. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Errrrrrrr, Wayne Rooney?

      3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        42

      4. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Nah

      5. jdogg
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I got asked this the other day and got an other answer that i think works

        A gio van bronkhorst
        B henrick larsson
        W barcelona
        X feyenoord
        Y rangers
        Z celtic

        1. Anorak
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Pretty good effort - even better than the Seedorf/Davids above, but also falls down as Gio/Larsson were at Feyenoord in the 90s as well. The rest works beautifully though.

          1. jdogg
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Yeh never noticed that.i struggled as i read it as they both left club x and went straight to w from y and z so struggled because of robben going to chelsea.x

    14. Bojan Horsemack
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      'Nother anagram:

      Frigid Lumpyslugs

      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Name a name.

    15. Beautiful Game
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Name the player "who must not be named"

      1. Mr. Grv
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        jonjo shelvey 😀

        1. Beautiful Game
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Fear of the name only increases fear of the thing itself!

      2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Steve stone

      3. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Sessegnon. and even if you name him, better not in front of me

      4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Klaxon

      5. Zasa
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Craig Noone

    16. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      This is an easy one for you guys.

      Can you name this Angolan Girabola football player?

      _ L _ _ _ T........M _ Y _ _ G

      If you need a clue, just ask.

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I need a clue, have I ever heard of this player?

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          How do I know? 😆

      2. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Alight Moyang

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Very close! Top goal scorer last year!

          1. Konig Luther
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            oh.. it's Meyong

          2. Captain Shirokov
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Oooooh.

            Clinnt Meyorg

      3. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Albert Meyong

        hail google

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          WRONG!

          1. The Sarjeant
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Joking, just wanted to see you sweat!

            1. Zombie
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              With your face in front? Hell no, I find it hilarious

    17. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I miss Igor Biscan

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Don't blame it on the biscan,
        Don't blame it on the hamman,
        Don't blame it on the finnan,
        blame it on traore.

        He just can't, he just can't, he just can't control his feet

    18. 32chickens
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      JRod is a back
      A brace coming on as sub
      Whats his price?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        ?

    19. Guy Demel's SH
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If Sunderland did it in 79 and Villa did it in 81 - who did it in 1980?

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Some player. Can't remember.

      2. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yer ma

      3. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Notts County.

      4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        The lad who scored the winner in the cup final? Not sure

        1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Sorry doos...
          Brooking

          1. Guy Demel's SH
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Correct.

        2. Guy Demel's SH
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Close. But I'm not liking him described as "the lad" and "some player" !!

          Hint: He played for the last team to win the FA Cup whilst outside the top division.

    20. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      How long has this place descended into madness?

      1. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Since you changed the fish

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          A fish isn't a real thing.

            1. Zombie
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              screw it..too much internet for tonight

              1. Zasa
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                The fish only appear when you surf the web

                😯

                1. Zombie
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  I can't stop looking at it. I think I maybe a psychopath

                  1. Zasa
                    • 11 Years
                    10 years, 5 months ago

                    Same, looks like we're on the same boat, man....

          1. Zombie
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Ahhh. So that's the reason. Thanks mate

      2. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        7 inches.

      3. Holy See
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Twas the autumn of 1936, if memory serves. Or '53. Or summer. One or d'other.

    21. pundit of punts
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Launch imminent.

      Stay put.

      Got inside info on this.

      #BattleForID2Begins

      1. Konig Luther
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        more 7h20, right?

      2. Beautiful Game
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        You live in India... Will you stay put? 😉
        It's already past 1

        1. Zombie
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I am in India and I am gonna be staying put like for another 4-5 hours 😛

          1. Beautiful Game
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            You are what your name suggests 😛

            1. Zombie
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Suggests?

              1. Beautiful Game
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Zombie

                1. Zombie
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  yes?

    22. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Only person to score a goal for Newcastle and save a penalty for man it'd?

      1. gravless
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yuri Gagarin?

        1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Been in Cardiff all day so that sounds like "your in a garden..."

          1. gravless
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            lol

        2. Beautiful Game
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          FFS veterans turning up... Is something fishy going on? 😉

          1. gravless
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            probably

      2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Just to close this off...
        the honey monster is the correct answer

    23. Mr. Grv
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Brooking. They are the surnames of the scorers
      of the winning goals in the FA Cup finals for
      each year.

    24. Zombie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Jose on Cuadrado: "I tried to offload Cuadrado to Swiss team FC Basel. Told him it's beautiful country with lots of opportunity. And the flag is a big plus."

      True story!

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        😀

    25. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Good start for England in the cricket.

      1. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        You guys are missing Harris..a lot

      2. Beautiful Game
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Long time buddy...

    26. The Train Driver
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Who is Ighalo? Bandwagon?

      1. palace ash
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Watford player!

      2. palace ash
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        ...and, no!

      3. Zombie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        A fish

      4. buffrey
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I was saying this morning to my mate how I actually think he'll be the Watford man to hit the ground running.

        Big and strong and most likely one to adapt to the hustle and bustle of the prem (look at upload early start).

        Probably too risky for me though as it might be a rotation of their strikers.