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17 July 2015 1372 comments
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Slaven Bilic made his first defensive signing since taking up the mantle at the Boleyn Ground, landing Juventus centre-back Angelo Ogbonna last week. The 27-year-old defender – who’s been capped 10 times for Italy – arrives on a four-year contract for a fee believed to be in the region of £8.5 million.

In an interview with the Hammers’ website, Ogbonna cited Bilic’s appointment as key to his decision:

“I am very pleased to have joined West Ham United. I spoke with the coach and he has given me the opportunity to play in the Premier League. That was always my dream and now I am very happy to be doing this. I knew about Slaven and that he is a good manager. Before he joined West Ham he was coach of Croatia and I know what he can do for his team. I saw his team in action and know that he plays attacking football. He has a great attitude and wants to win.”

The History

Ogbonna started out at his local club, Cassino, before joining Torino’s youth team in 2002. He earned his first start for il Toro in the 2006/07 campaign, notching a further four appearances before teaming up with Serie C outfit Crotone on a one-year loan deal that summer, mustering 22 outings.

Ogbonna returned to Torino for the 2008/09 season, recording 11 starts as the Turin-based club were relegated to the second tier of Italian football. The six foot three inch centre-back – who was named as club captain in August 2010 – cemented a regular starting berth during Torino’s three seasons in Serie B, tallying one goal and one assist in 102 appearances. Ogbonna chalked up 22 appearances in his final injury-stricken campaign at the Stadio Olimpico, having gone under the knife during the Christmas period.

The defender made the controversial switch to rival Juventus in the summer of 2013. Despite playing second fiddle to Giorgio Chiellini, Leonardo Bonucci and Andrea Barzagli in central defence, he managed to rack up 14 starts in his debut campaign with the Old Lady by virtue of squad rotation. Ogbonna played a more prominent role in the 2014/15 season, tallying 25 appearances (18 starts) as the Serie A giants were crowned champions for the fourth year in succession.

Ogbonna made his senior debut for the Azzurri in a 2-0 friendly win over Poland and has since gone on to earn a further 10 caps. His last start on the international stage arrived in a 2-2 draw with Nigeria back in late 2013.

The Prospects

Ogbanna seems set to nail down a starting berth in the Hammers’ XI as Bilic attempts to improve their fortunes in the post-Sam Allardyce era. Discussing his new acquisition with the West Ham website, the Croatian – a former centre-half himself – clearly holds Ogbonna in high regard:

“I am thrilled with the signing. He is a really good player and is a great defender. He was at one of the best clubs in the world with Juventus and we are really delighted he has signed for us. The expectations are big of course. We now have the numbers and the quality at the back. We really need the competition and strength (in the defence) which is one of the most important areas for the whole season.”

Ogbonna’s arrival looks likely to knock James Collins further down the pecking order in the heart of the back-four. It may well be that the Italian international partners Winston Reid for the season ahead, though James Tomkins has certainly strengthened his case for inclusion over the summer, scoring in two of the Hammers’ Europa League matches, including the winner against Maltese outfit Birkirkara last night.

Considering that he’s bagged just one goal in 201 career outings, Ogbonna – who’s priced in line with Reid and Tomkins at 5.0 in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game – offers little in the way of attacking potential. The former Juventus defender attempted ten shots over 1,758 minutes last term, which equate to an attempt every 175.8 minutes – quicker than Reid (241.3) and Collins (222.4), though some way behind Tomkins’ impressive 108.9 minutes per goal attempt.

Nonetheless, Ogbonna’s top-level experience could strengthen the Hammers’ rearguard as a whole and improve their defensive prospects. Certainly, the west London outfit need to better their record from the previous campaign, in light of the fact that only three teams registered fewer clean sheets than the Irons’ nine. On the plus side, West Ham ranked seventh in terms of goals conceded (47), proving that the foundations are solid.

In terms of attacking potential from the back, then, Aaron Creswell will likely remain the prime route into West Ham’s backline. Aside from carding two goals and four assists, the emergent left-back ranked second – behind Branislav Ivanovic (11) – for shots on target (nine) over the season. In addition, no defender that fashioned at least ten shots last term bettered his shot accuracy (47.4%), while only three defenders engineered more chances (34) for their team-mates. The downside, of course, is that Cresswell is priced at 5.5 in FPL and may be seen as too expensive for some right now.

A predominantly favourable start to the new campaign for Bilic’s men could see them begin strongly. Certainly, whilst trips to Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City in Gameweeks 1, 4 and 6 respectively aren’t conducive to shut-outs, the Hammers are left with a raft of enticing fixtures up to Gameweek 9 (LEI, BOU, NEW, NOR, sun, cpl), which should prove more profitable.

Future Reference

Angelo Ogbonna Wikipedia Page

Angelo Ogbonna Transfer Markt Page

  1. TMF86
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I posted my team the other day:

    Mignolet (Hamer)
    Ivan/Koscielny/Darmian (Richards/Morgan)
    Walcott/Haz/Bolasie/Milner (Wanyama)
    Aguero/Sakho/Deeney

    Contemplating trying to switch Sakho for Benteke, but means saving £2mil.
    I'm thinking
    Ivan -> Azpi
    Theo -> Ozil
    and 1 more change to save 0.5

    Suggestions on who else tro chnage and opinions on the idea?

    1. TMF86
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      *who else to change

      1. The Mighty Whites
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Bolasie to Ritchie, fixtures a lot better for Bournemouth.

        1. TMF86
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I hand't even looked at Bolasie's fixtures! There are some absolute stinkers in there

    2. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Liverpool have some VERY tough Away games in the opening 10. Without a rotational keeper you can expect to get very little out of Mignolet away.

      If your set on single keeper, bring in Cech and drop Kos to Clyne.

      New BPS favours Azpi more than it did last year.

      1. TMF86
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah. Truth be told I'm a little concerned with Mignolet anyway. He seemed to let me down the small period that I had him last term. A bit jinxed for me. I do think there is probably a better shot stopper out there.
        I was torn as to whether I go for a keeper likely to keep clean sheets (Cech) or one that is likely to pick up points from saves.
        Cech is probably a much better should

        Thoughts on changing the team to get Benteke in though?

  2. GreennRed
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GFTgkibl7DU

    What chance of Bournemouth having a similar conversation between Championship and Premier? Unlike Dougal the penny will drop every quickly 😉

    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Go on, go on, go on!

  3. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Are Liverpool playing any good opponents in pre-season? I'd like to see how the new players stack up against high level opponents before gambling the team that lost 6-1 to Stoke.

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nope. Pre season, good opponents or not, doesn't really matter. Fitness is the key.

      1. getfunky
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        yeah i seem to recall Utd having a great pre-season last season against solid opponents like ac milan & they started the season in awful fashion

        pre-season for me is about getting an idea on who's most likely to start rather than form

    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      look at the pre-season guide on here

    3. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nope. Which is quite strange imo tbh.

      1. GreennRed
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        All about trying to crack emerging markets.

      2. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        already laughing Liverpool player hype when they destroy HJK 0-10 in their last pre season game

    4. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Milner really helps Liverpool, but I think they will still concede regularly

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        They didn't last year with Sakho in the side.

    5. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      http://xtra.liverpoolfc.com/news/liverpool-fc-2015-pre-season-tour-map-fixtures-and-city-guides

      Nope. Adelaide finished 3rd in the A league so should be better than Brisbane.

    6. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Adelaide United, Malaysian XI, HJK Helsinki and Swindon Town

  4. The Mighty Whites
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    RMT -

    Ruddy / Rudd

    Koscielny / Alderweireld / Mings / Huth / O'Shea

    Hazard / Depay / Chadli / Ritchie / Wanyama

    Aguero / Costa / Deeney.

    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Spurs don't keep clean sheets very often. I would replace him. Other than that looks good

      1. The Mighty Whites
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Gauraval - Think they'll be a lot more solid this year with Belgium pairing at CB instead of Fazio. ANything else you'd change?

        1. gaurava1216
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Agree with that.

  5. Besaid_Auroch
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    What are your thoughts on playing two budget strikers? Bit of a risk but would have worked wonders at times last season with Austin/Ings/Kane. Something like:

    Schmichael/Hanon
    Ivan, Koscielny, Dawson, Yoshida, R. Taylor (waste, I know)
    Hazard, Silva, Ramsey, Depay
    Wilson, Costa, Deeney

    The difficulty this year is with budget defenders. Hardly any good options under 5.0, it seems.

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Thinking along same lines - Deeney & Wilso the two that spring to mind. Also Sakho looks a bargain at 6.5 & Adebayor could be even more of a bargain at 6.0 if he moves to Villa.

      I'm really leaning towards3-5-2

    2. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Attack is too weak. Southampton will buy a Centre back- so I would plan without yoshida. 4m centre back look at Watford- pre season a few been playing

  6. Blue Flag Flyer
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Current Draft:

    Panti - (Ruddy)
    Azpi - Ogbonna - Cédric - (Mings - Baker)
    Hazard - Ozil - Yaya - Puncheon - (Wanyama)
    Rooney - Deeney - Costa

    Any ratings or thoughts?

    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      good team. Not convinced about yaya. Sterling play number 10 now- that means yaya deeper.

  7. mm0507
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Why all this love for Hennessey? Why do you think he will be first choice?

    1. Patty
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      4.0 and likely to go to west brom where he is tipped to be first choice until fosters return

      1. Jax
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        bit strange to put him in as no.1 when myhill did so well in foster's absence.

      2. mm0507
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        thanks

  8. Ibralicious
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Hennessey or Myhill to start till Foster is back?

    1. Business Dog
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Myhill looks more likely

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I wonder does the Hennessey signing mean Foster isn't coming back for a long time? If so Myhill & Hennessey would be a great value GK combo @ 8.5m

  9. Bambi
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Who do Leicester defenders rotate well with?

    1. Patty
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Sunderland and Bournemouth for a 3 way rotation

    2. Dinamo Drachma
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      SWA-SOU

  10. Dinamo Drachma
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Does Lallana worth the extra 0.5? I'm tempted

    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yes he is worth it but the question is will he always start when Coutinho is factored in?

      1. Dinamo Drachma
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        thats a headache

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Not nailed

    3. Eden Hazardous
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      ur team ? No
      ur Buget ? Slightly

    4. Business Dog
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Is he really nailed on when Coutinho and Firmino are back?

      1. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        No.Big part to play this season but not fpl material atm

      2. Dinamo Drachma
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I think he deserves starting in the XI

    5. RustyBz
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I don't see him being a starter

  11. Prøphet
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    A) Kosc> Merte to get Mane instead of Chadhendomil
    B) Kosc and stay with the Chadhendomil and 0.5itb trying to upgrade elsewhere

  12. Warning Hazard ahead
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    A. Tekkers, Wally, Mirallas
    B. Costa, Milner, Lens/Cabaye/Bolasie

    1. JaydenLFC87
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      A and trade Mirallas for Milner

      1. Warning Hazard ahead
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ah yes, that's actually I much better idea. Oversight by trying to find something that's not there 😆

    2. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Forget Mirallas. Those opening fixtures are poor.

      1. Warning Hazard ahead
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Think I only had him for the opening fixture, I can see Everton scoring more vs Watford than Liverpool vs Stoke.

        1. Jax
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Liverpool only beaten Stoke once away in premier league

          1. Warning Hazard ahead
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Hmmm.. Stoke may have two defenders out at the start of the season though.

  13. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Midfield looking much better value for money again this year... 3-5-2 the way to go?
    So many good picks for sub-9m

    1. Warning Hazard ahead
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      How much would you plan to spend on two attackers? Rooney/Kane or something like that? Who would your third be?

  14. Ibralicious
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Depay or Yaya for 8.5? :/

    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      neither.

      1. Ibralicious
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Helpful much

        1. Jax
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          you asked and i answered.

    2. JaydenLFC87
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yaya

    3. Theatre_Of_Screams
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Depay

    4. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      depay. I m not convinced yaya has the legs anymore. also, sterling will play number 10 at times, yaya deeper

    5. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yaya. Depay down the line.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Other way around based on fixtures.

        1. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Depay will be eased into the team imo

  15. Van Klinkert Delarosa
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    So many well priced mid this season.

    Is it 5 premium (7.0 and above) midfielders is the way to go this season?

    1. Manamongst
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I would be inclined to say yes.

  16. Baby Face Nelson
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Why is Brunt a mid in FPL when he clearly plays LB for Pulis.

    The guys running FPL are clearly muppets

    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      because he is a midfielder.

      1. djenzio
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        so is Valencia but he was re-classified as defender after playing at wing back last season.

        same rule should apply to Brunt

        1. Jax
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          no it doesn't.

        2. Black Knights
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          The difference being that Valencia has been playing right back a lot, across several managers, for a few years now. You get the sense with Brunt that Pulis used him there because he had no other option, but will be back further up the pitch this year.

        3. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Brunt played what 10 games as a LB? Valencia has spent the better part of 18 months almost exclusively as a RB/RWB.

          1. Black Knights
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Mine didn't suffice?! 😉

        4. Baby Face Nelson
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          My point exactly.

          West Brom back 4 options down to 3 due to this.

          1. Black Knights
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            They will have a left back that isn't Brunt, don't worry.

    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Because he's not a defender and Pulis could very easily buy a new LB.

  17. JaydenLFC87
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    How nailed is GERARD DEULOFEU ?? good stats but not sure on playing time..

    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Everton have too many midfielders to say who'll start.

      1. gaurava1216
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        and a terrible run of games. not worth it

  18. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Chelsea have had a £20m bid for Stones rejected. Not sure if it's already been mentioned.

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      It has.

      1. Black Knights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I added you on Twitter at the weekend Lucy! Should be an enjoyable H2H league we're in!

  19. Mattrick
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Any southampton fans in here... Whats the likely hood of target playing, are there any other better options at 4.0? I just want someone who is mostly likely to play, dont mind what team tbh.

    1. Black Knights
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I don't think any are around at the moment...

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        there has to be someone but not sure who...

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          stay clasie lads

        2. Black Knights
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          If only they'd posted recently... like as a reply to the previous post directly above, perhaps? We need a clue.

        3. Shipstontrev
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Don't tell me, let me guess...

    2. ADucksBehind
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I think the opinion is he will until Bertrand returns

      1. Black Knights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, borrowed time at best. I think we're waiting for injuries before a 4.0m becomes an option, but they happen and there'll likely be one by October.

    3. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Targett will start while Bertie is injured. I'd expect 2-3 weeks, max 4 weeks. Bertrand is the more accomplished player so it won't be a regular thing beyond that.

  20. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Cech (Krul)

    Ivanovic / Kompany / Darmian (Alderweireld / Targett)

    Fabregas / Toure / Depay / Henderson (Ki Sung Yueng)

    Giroud / Lukaku / Wilson

    Bringing in Kane for Lukaku GW2

    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Too much money spent on df. when r u ever going to drop cech for krul?
      Kompany a waste. Youre 4th def should be 4.5m.

      1. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        In GW6 Arsenal have Chelsea away and Newcastle have Watford at home. Probably then.

        I know what you mean about Kompany but I wanted some MCY defensive exposure and he is nailed on.

        Who would you recommend as a 4.5m def? I am struggling.

      2. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Kompany a waste eh? Should have stuck to my guns!!

  21. skygodslol
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Ruddy/Butland

    Ivan Kosh Huth Francis Richards
    Hazard Ozil Hendo Ritchie Wanyama
    Costa Rooney Deeney

    1. Ibralicious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Ruddy not nailed on from what I've heard

      1. skygodslol
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        hmm thanks for the info, tbh i wasnt really happy with my gks, any suggestions?

        1. Ibralicious
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Hennessey headed from Palace to WBA. Would be interesting to see who starts between him and Myhill till Foster is back, at least not untill October. Both are a steal at 4.0

  22. RustyBz
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    If Schweinsteger was handed penalty duties & a good number of indirect set pieces (I assume Depay, Mata & Wayne will share direct), should he be considered a good FL player? He does have a decent goals record for Bayern

  23. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9915688/jamie-carragher-to-wear-manchester-united-shirt-after-losing-gary-neville-bet

    Jamie Carragher to wear Manchester United shirt after losing Gary Neville bet

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      10th August on Monday night Football on sky sports 1. A must watch for the bantz

    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He thought Paulinho would score more than 15 goals?!?

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        yup......

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          tbf so did a lot of spurs fans......

          1. Jax
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            15 goals? crazy...

    3. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      lol

  24. Ibralicious
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    So a rare breakthrough game for Milner I suppose. Henderson to settle the score next time out?

  25. Black Knights
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Any mods around? When you hover over the votes count it still says 'Aggregate Votes'. Very pedantic, but might be worth a revision.

  26. Dre
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Do you guys have a price for defenders that would make them too high to be a rotation option?

    Would you say 5.5 for Clyne makes him too expensive to rotate so he's only playing his home games for the first 8GWs for example?

  27. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Clarke out for 7.

  28. Shipstontrev
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Another wicket
    Clarke c Ballance b Wood 7

  29. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Southampton will play Vitesse in the third qualifying round of the Europa League. Fixtures to be played on 30/07 and 06/08, the Thursday before the start of the EPL season.

    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Is that the Chelsea reserves team?

    2. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lucky for Southampton Vitesse have lost their best players from last season: Bertrand Traore, Vejinović & Propper, along with some others

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ah interesting. I was quite concerned with that draw, seemed like a toughie.

        1. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          they've got a good manager, but their 4 on loan Chelsea players won't really have had time to gel with the team.

          I'd be astonished & (pleasantly surprised 😉 ) if Vitesse progress

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Sounds positive! 😀

            If we got knocked out, I'd be pretty annoyed but it would only be good for our PL season. It's all swings and roundabouts, as they say.

    3. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Hmm don't like the sound of that.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        We always knew they'd play then? Hence why the untelevised Newcastle vs Southampton match is on Sunday 9th, not the Saturday.

        1. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I didn't 😆

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Oh sorry! This is one of the reasons I'm giving Mané and JRod a wide-berth in GW1.

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              I see it opposite. Southampton are a well-managed club as you know. They will have started pre-season slightly early in order to be ready for the EL qualifiers. Those two competitive games will sharpen them up nicely before the PL kickoff.

              Often teams that play early competitive games get a jump start in the PL season and I expect Southampton to be no different. The EL drag effect won't start to kick in until midway through the group stage - mid-October or something.

              Is the 6/8 game at home or away? Not that it matters too much, Arnheim is only a short flight.

              1. Lucy.
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                It hasn't been confirmed as home/away yet.

                Interesting theory! 😀 Though we have a more challenging friendly game before the PL season than most will have, vs Espanyol.

              2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Word.

    4. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      That's Vitesse through then.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Do you genuinely think so? It would be good news for FPL players 😛

  30. Bobby_Baggio
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Allo peeps. Just seeing what's right and wrong with this

    Schmei
    Azpi, Cedric, Francis
    Rambo, Yaya, Fab, Hendo
    Costa, C.Wilson, Rooney

    (hamer) Coates, Olsson, Fletcher