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4 August 2015 5434 comments
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With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. Liftbox
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Hennessey
    Kosc-Huth-Cedric
    Hazard-Wolcott-Ozil-Mane
    Rooney-Kane-Wilson

    Myhill-Oshea,Target,Westwood

    Have a plan for aguero shaping up too.

    1. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Looks fine. Would maybe try and find some money to get a 4.5 instead of Targett.

      1. Liftbox
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thank you.

        Have .5 left and kind of hoping Gomez gets nailed on at Anfield to replace Target

  2. Millar55
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Why people putting Aguero if he's injured????

    1. COYS Down Under
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      He's not injured, just not match fit. And he may sub on in the first game and scoring 20 goals or so they hope.

  3. COYS Down Under
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Compare the pair

    A) Mane, Kane and Koscielny
    B) Benteke, Chadli and Ivanovic

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A)

    2. Nerazzuro
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Prefer A personally but both pretty even

    3. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hm. Very close. I'd go A, just.

    4. sleecc
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A

    5. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mix the pair

      Benteke Mane Koscielny.

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Benteke is a poor pick IMO I think many will be disappointed by him

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          8.5m will prove to be better points per value than Kane, Giroud, Lukaku, Pelle and Bony IMO - and that's the yard stick for that price range.

        2. Simon69
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Why?

    6. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A for me, but not by much.

    7. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      A

  4. Random Name
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    No such thing as a template team

    I looked at the so called template team and bar hazard most have below 20% and even 10% in ownership

    1. COYS Down Under
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Just because most casual players don't know the template doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ruddy/Butland

      Azpi/Cedric/Huth

      Walcott/Haz/Sterling/Ritchie/Wanyama

      Rooney/Tekkers/Sakho

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Bar sterling and Ritchie basically template

        1. Greenbackbøøg…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Who would you put as a classic template player? I'm thinking *Arsenal 8.5 Mid and Chadli

          1. TJ_777
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Ya that would be perfect don't know if 100 tho

            1. Greenbackbøøg…
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              If the other defenders are 4.0s I guess lol

      2. Random Name
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Read the rest of my post

        Not the first sentence

        1. Greenbackbøøg…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I know I just tried making the most template team possible for fun

          1. Random Name
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Fair enough

  5. Kamo Warrior
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Who's the best 4pt (playing) defender?

    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      None nailed on

  6. tm245
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Evening. Been on this team for over a week but have been trying to downgrade Hazard to Fabregas and I can't stop thinking that all the upgrades are sideways moves.

    Hazard Walcott Yaya Mane
    Rooney Kane Sakho

    Any upgrades with that 2.5m if I switch to Fabregas that you feel are clearly improvements? Silva is the only player I have really considered so far, but Yaya could be great value. Cheers.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Just keep Haz for me

      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers.

    2. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Improve your defense.

      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Best fortress 32m can buy, my back seven!

  7. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Could this work?

    Pants, 4m
    Ivan, Kos, Cedric/Coates(rotating), Saylor
    Alexis, Caz, Mane, Mahrez, Fletcher
    Aguero, Benteke, Wilson

    Silva as a placeholder for Alexis.

    1. COYS Down Under
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      +1 for being the first Sanchez mention I've seen in two weeks.

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        hey, hey!

        i've been suggesting alexis baby for a while

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I've got Aguero Hazard and can get Sanchez whilst keeping balance, with just 2 transfers.

      Tinker you defence, balance is the key.

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I also have a version with the holy trinity.
        Includes Lei goalie combo, 7m mid, Pelle(no Benteke), Azpi(no Ivan) I think that's all.

    3. sleecc
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I wouldn't triple any team.

    4. Liftbox
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      without doing the math, can you get hazard for Sanchez by moving Ivan to Azpil?
      Rather see that

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yes it's possible but I rather have Alexis then Haz tbh.

    5. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Theo is my Sanchez placeholder but I like it.

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Great, no Haz does wonders.

        1. Random Name
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Haz only 0.5 more expensive than Alexis

          Don't see what wonders you're talking about

          1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Look up, I prefer Alexis. My other option though (also mentioned above) have both Alexis and Haz but makes me pick 2nd choice on many posstions.

        2. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          To your rank.

    6. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      No Hazard.

  8. mgilbert86
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Hello DZ, do we think Bolasie will be fit for this weekend?

    1. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I fear not. He's out of my team...sadly...

      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        i loved having him at the tail of last season. I will wait until their fixtures get better than he's in!

      2. mgilbert86
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        darn, he was a sure shot for my 11 and then that flag came up

        1. Oz lotto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          first 6 fixtures aren't the best.. just wait and see.

        2. Walsh
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Yesterday first time I've not had him in my page since the game opened and it feels not so good 🙁

    2. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I wish. Had in my first draft for a few weeks but it doesn't look promising.

  9. Dazza66
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    RMT please, think I am going mad, lol

    Have decided to take Costa out waiting to see any news on Friday
    I have enough money to bring in Agüero with one transfer
    I understand Gomez will be a starter and thats all I want and he will help my rotation with Southampton GK
    Ibe I believe will be a good this year after watching a number of his games and for the price he is worth the chance, I also thin Yay is a great price as well and will perform this year
    I am not sure about Hazard to much expectation, and I know everyone else in the EPL is but I think Fabregas will have a great 2nd season

    Schmeichel
    Azpilicueta, Schlupp, Mertesacker
    Yaya Touré, Fàbregas, Cazorla, Ibe
    Benteke, Pellè, Rooney

    Subs
    Stekelenburg, Wanyama, Gomez, Baker

  10. Oz lotto
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ok lads... I finished with this team last night and I have to say I'm liking it (at least for the minute)

    Rutland
    Azpi Huth Francis Bassong Targett
    Haz Sterling Mane Walters Mahrez
    Kun Sakho Pelle...

    nothing ITB... and a bit left field. let me know what you think 🙂

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Aguero is appearing in a lot more teams!
      Did I miss something?

      1. Frank Black
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        In three of the last four seasons he has always skipped pre-season and in those three seasons he then always scored in the first game.

        1. Oz lotto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          that is a great stat. My logic is that I would rather just start with him. He will definitely play GW2 and I don't want to burn a trade on it so I just did it now

          1. Frank Black
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I have the same doubt, i'd like to start with Kun but at the same time i want Benteke and he is in the same exact situation, he's going to feature but he's probably not going to start and i can't afford to have to big strikers coming in from the bench. I like Rooney as a pick because his first three fixtures are practically the three teams he likes to play/score against the most. So i have to go either with Kun and Pellè or Rooney and Benteke and make a transfer anyway in GW2 or 3.

            1. Dax
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Rooney and Pelle?

              1. Kane Toads
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Rooney, Pelle and Kane for me until Aguero time!

              2. Frank Black
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Those are their names.

                1. Dax
                  • 10 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  I was suggesting playing Rooney and Pelle. Was that not clear?

                  1. Frank Black
                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 5 months ago

                    Not with the question marks, actually.

                    1. Dax
                      • 10 Years
                      10 years, 5 months ago

                      As in 'have you thought about Rooney and Pelle?' I think it is abundantly clear that I know who Rooney and Pelle are simply by my participating on this forum. I was trying to help. That is all.

    2. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You should upgrade Targett to a 4.5. I don't like Walters AND Mahrez together. Sakho and Pellè are going to play and you're definitely not going to bench Kun because if you want him from the start that means you're sure he's going to feature and score. A little too much with both Walters and Mahrez maybe.

      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I understand. I have too many hunches at this stage. Targett is ok for now. I just need him as a filler because a 3 way rotation works fine for me with Azpi... although I'm considering just going Ivan. I don't know what to do to be honest.

    3. Liftbox
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      You really hate Arsenal, huh?

      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        not at all... it was either Kun and a cheap... or ramsey and rooney.
        I know what i want in a few weeks time so I just did it now.

    4. Dax
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Walters...Will he even start? Massive punt there and I'm pretty sure that there are better options. And what if Kun doesn't start GW 1, is home to what will be a very tight Chelsea team, and then away to Everton. And no Utd cover. May be worth downgrading Stirling to Utd cover seeing as though you have Kun.

  11. Ninjaa
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    How's this looking chaps?

    Butland Ruddy 
    Azpi Cedric mert n.taylor baker 
    Sterling Hazard ozil siggy surman 
    Rooney pelle Wilson 

    1. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Williams over Naylor. I'd go without Pelle. And would want a player instead of Baker.

  12. semiconductor
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    cazorla or mane??

    azpi + saylor or mertz + francis

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mane Azpi and Francis?

      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        yeah i can do that....actually currently on that. trying to see best options

  13. Cathal Cantona
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Kind of got lost on last page but who is best between Pelle & Depay vs Mane & Benteke for first 8 Gameweeks??

    1. Gloria Kanchelskis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Seriously considering Mane and Pelle

    2. Liftbox
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      mane & Betenke

    3. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      The second pair.

    4. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mane and Benteke

    5. sleecc
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      mane & tekker

  14. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I've got a few questions lads.

    1. Ive already got Walcott. Is a double up on Arsenal with Ozil in midfield worth it over Mane?
    2. Kane + Wilson (or) Pelle + Sakho?
    3. How nailed on is Chadli?

    Thanks you lot 🙂

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1. MANE
      2.A
      3.85%

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mane
      P&S
      Pretty but not 100%

    3. The Left Duke #3
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1. Mane
      2. A
      3. If you go with Kane don't worry about Chadli and bring in Milner/Hendo or Ritchie maybe?

    4. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      1. I'd rather Mane
      2. The first pair
      3. Nailed

      1. Doctor X
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Looks like there's some sort of unanimousness here. Thanks again.

        I'm quite confused. Double Arsenal looks very tempting to be honest. But Mane seems to have the publics backing! Great fixtures too tbh.

    5. sleecc
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      No
      Kane + Wilson
      Short term may be, long term not sure. Poch like to promote youngsters. Last season Kane, Mason, Bentaleb.

  15. The Left Duke #3
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Need help finalsing my team.....seem set except for 4 players (22m).
    Feel I need So'ton coverage given their fixtures or do I go without?
    Any thoughts please?

    Ruddy Butland
    Azpi Gomez Huth ?? ??
    Hazard Ozil Sterling Ibe ??
    Kane Rooney ??

    A) Pelle Wanyama Mertesacker Targett
    B) Defoe/Wilson Mane O'Shea Targett
    C) Something else completely?

    Fantasy mind is boggled and a ball hasn't been kicked yet 🙁

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Sakho
      Surman
      Kosc
      Cedric

      1. The Left Duke #3
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Uh I like those DF's. Have never seen Surman play, would he just be a bench warmer?

  16. TJ_777
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ok with people talking about template and stuff and referencing fpl % as sources I want to remind people...
    FFs applies to less than 1% of fpl

    3.2 million players last yr

    1% of that is
    32,000

    Ffs has (I'm guessing)
    Around 10,000 people that read some of the articles/post

    So ffs is

    0.3% approximately of fpl

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Do we all not know that at this stage?

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Well when people say template many times they refer to the percentages in fpl

    2. Oz lotto
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      and how may people do you think from here do well? guarantee the winner every year would have been labelled "template" at some point so there is nothing wrong with that...

      of those 3.2 million there are probably well over half who are completely clueless

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Ya but I'm referring template as what people on ffs label template not what the world or the winner would

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      10000 would be way too low seeing the FFS League will have more.

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Really? I was unaware but I think u get the gist. I'm sure most know about this but some don't

  17. SH
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ritchie+Mane or Hendo/Milnar+Chadli?

  18. Oz lotto
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Walsh...
    you helped me with a few tough decisions last season and I ended up raking in $400 (AUD so not quite as good as US).

    talk to me about Pelle... I have had him locked. why do you think he is no good (aside from being a donkey)?

    1. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ah tidy sum for last season mate, glad to hear it 🙂

      I think Pelle is just awful, end of. I don't think he makes good movements and time and again last season he was being easily marked out of the game and wasn't creating much for himself. He had a few crackers but more often than not he was missing his chances. It seems like he was only scoring tap ins or when the ball would just fall to his feet in the six yard box and he would slot it home. He reminds me of a Soldado type. I think there are many better options than him in and around his price bracket and I don't think he should be considered. If you really want a Southampton attacker I think Mane is miles better, and I would rather have Tadic than Pelle as well. I just think he is crap.

      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        thanks mate... I feel like you are describing Soldado to me aswell... Maybe I'm being too punty having Mane and Pelle and should just lock Sadio.
        I have huge doubts over Liverpool and subsequently Benteke... I posted this last night and it's really concerning me:

        I have always been an admirer of Benteke as an opponent and I love henderson as our captain - a workhorse and still developing rapidly... but our first 5 fixtures aren't the easiest... Stoke, Arsenal and United away in the first 5 makes me really consider just waiting. Christian will take time to settle (yes I know he scored a belter) but I will happily jump on him GW6 before Norwich at home...

        1. Walsh
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah I mean I don't think Benteke v Pelle is a close debate, but that's just me. I would be quite comfortable starting with Benteke.

    2. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I was heavily set on him. Trying to move funds around for Kane maybe. I'm still deciding.

      But tbh he looks great value at that price with those fixtures.

  19. flippetyflop
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Which team is better guys.....I know there's not much love for Lukaku, but I'm happy with the balance of either side, so don't see any big issues with doing Lukaku to Sakho for GW2.

    Team A :

    Rutland

    Huth Mert Cedric (PVA) (Jenkinson)

    Hazard Walcott Sterling Sinclair (Fletcher)

    Pelle Rooney Lukaku (C(

    Team B

    Rutland

    Huth Mings Cedric (Coates) (Jenkinson)

    Henderson Hazard Walcott Sterling (fletcher)

    Rooney Benteke Sakho

    I'm concerned about the weakness of the defence in draft two, however does the strength of the BOU/WHU and LEI/SUN defence nullify this?

    Team B has 1.0 in the bank which I think offers greater flexibility for transfers in later weeks, however the reason why I've gone for Mert in Team 1 is that I think ARS defence will offer a steady stream of CS points.

    Is there a way I can mix/match each side to get the best of both worlds?

    1. Oz lotto
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      The second... only because of Hazard

      1. Random Name
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Both have hazard

        1. Oz lotto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          lol... that's shocking by me... different order.. I like A just because you have Arsenal defensive cover

    2. pablo discobar
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Honestly, coming from a WHU fan, I`d go nowhere near one of our defenders 😀

    3. sleecc
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B, but upgrade your defence since you have 1m ITB.

  20. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Coates-Kaboul seems to be first choice CB

    http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/once-fer-and-mvila-sign.1112996/

    1. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Sad day for the O'Shea family.

    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Coates could be useful, if only for all the "I'll get my Coates jokes.

  21. pablo discobar
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Hi guys

    GK Ruddy
    DEF Ivan, Mertsecker, Cedric
    MID Mahrez, Ozil, Walcott, Hazard
    FWD Rooney, Lukaku, Wilson

    Subs (Butland) Ki, Huth, Coates

    Marhez and Ki rotate 100% which is a plus.

    Have left 0.5 in bank to do Lukaku to Benteke in GW 2

    Provisional Aguero plan, GW 3 – Walcott to Lens (Sunderland H to swansea), that gives the right money for a GW 4 switch – Rooney to Aguero.

    I like the defence set up in it, Ki is bothering me a little, which could be solved by a Ivanovic to Azpi move, leaving room for a 6.5 mid, but nothing really grabbing me at that price. I have gone off Ritchie due to Bournemouth getting new attack mids in which limits his appeal. I still like Wilson though

  22. Kikofraeuropa
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    RMT please

    Ruddy (Butland)
    Ivanovic, Bellerin, Mings (Angella,Bassong)
    Sterling, Hazard, Ozil, Henderson (Wanyama)
    Rooney, Benteke, Wilson

    1. Random Name
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Tired of seeing the same front 7 on this site

      1. Kikofraeuropa
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Really?

  23. Random Name
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I can't believe Joseph Gomez will be a starter

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      why?

      1. Random Name
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Bargain if he is

        I want to be absolutely sure before putting him into my team

        4.5 def in team like Liverpool with only 1% ownership - damn...

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          he'll start on sunday

          http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/10689514

          1. Random Name
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Nice

      2. Random Name
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        So my answer is its hard to believe I can pick up a 4.5 starting def in Liverpool

        Surely not nailed?

        1. Doctor X
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Not nailed. But a good punt.

  24. cricketmad787
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Any way this defence could be improved?

    Schmeichel Butland
    Azpilicueta-Cedric-Jenkinson-Wisdom-Coates

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Maybe Schmei to Ruddy

    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Is Wisdom a starter?

    3. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Wisdom doesn't seem ideal. I like the rest, though!

  25. Walsh
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Check out my FPL podcast just started up with my buddy. Episode 2 up and in iTunes store for your consumption and subscribe if you'd like!

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-2-manchester-city/id1024068765?i=348660394&mt=2

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Get on this people!

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      99c?

      1. Walsh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Free. Will always be free.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Free is bad 😛

    3. Liftbox
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Bookmarked, Look forward to listening to this.

  26. PM
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    QUICK POLL:

    1. Depay, 8.0 striker (Pelle/Lukaku); or

    2. Kane, 7.0 midfielder (Milner/Tadic)

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Kane Milner

    2. Liftbox
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I like #2 but maybe Hendo or Milner

    3. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Kane and Tadic

      1. PM
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks and good luck with final tinkering.

        1. Walsh
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          You too mate 🙂

  27. How Mina You
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Which of Hennessey and McCarthy will start?

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hennessy but not for sure

    2. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hennessey.

  28. Kane Toads
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Mane and Benteke I would think. Depay may need time to settle in.

    1. Kane Toads
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Reply fail

  29. osceola31909
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Is Huth still nailed down as a starter?

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Benalouane worrying u?
      Don't worry

      1. Tiamani Warrior
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        If they switch to 2 at the back who misses out from huth, benalouane and morgan??

    2. Walsh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'd be comfortable with him.

    3. osceola31909
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks.

    4. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I imagine so..