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4 August 2015 5434 comments
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With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. indiangunner
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    SANTI OR THEO???

    1. Asmodeusz
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Right now Theo is certeinly better choice, but long term Santi might be better.
      I'am going with Theo and capping him gw 1.

    2. JasonG123
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Theo

    3. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Don't shout.

      1. indiangunner
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        are you on drugs?

        1. @BigChrisso
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          that's better (CAPS lock off was the reference)

        2. BIG TONES
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks for using a quieter tone of voice.

    4. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Theo

    5. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Theo - Risk/Reward
      Caz - A less explosive but nailed and decent choice

      1. indiangunner
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        thank u guys

    6. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ozil over santi
      Theo over ozil

  2. JasonG123
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Can I get any thoughts on this? I'm not sure who the best rotating defenders are:

    Butland (Hennessey)
    Azpi Coates Huth (Richards Saylor)
    Hazard Silva Walcott(c) Mane (Wanyama)
    Rooney Lukaku Sakho

    1. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      LEI, BOU, SUN

      1. JasonG123
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers, Might replace Richards with Francis then.

    2. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not a fan of lukaku. Defence looks weak.

      1. Pochecinno
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Same here, not too sure about Lukaku. Has never really fulfilled his potential. Defence is a bit weak but it means you can have three proper forwards

        1. JasonG123
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I'm not his biggest fan, but what's the alternative in that price bracket?

          1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I'd start with Wilson and transfer to an in form cheap striker if one emerges.
            For similar price, pelle, gomis, benteke are good options, but nothing wrong in going with lukaku.

          2. Pochecinno
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            In that price range I'd rather go for Pelle, especially since they have a good start. Benteke for me is still a risk because we don't know how he'll adapt in a new team.

  3. Pochecinno
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this team?

    Cech (Schwarzer)

    Azpi - Kolarov - Koscielny - (Targett, S Taylor)

    Hazard - Sterling - Mane - Ozil - Henderson

    Rooney - Lambert - (Graham)

    Much appreciated

    1. JasonG123
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lambert and Lolarov are abit too risky for me, as are two 4m0m defenders. Is Schwarzer 4m? If not you might as well downgrade him. Nice midfield though.

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Kolarov actually a very good punt with free kicks with toure and Kun out

        1. JasonG123
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah he could be but with two 4m defenders it's too risky.

          1. TJ_777
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Oh didn't notice that

          2. Pochecinno
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I'm taking a punt on Kolarov at the moment (and hoping he will definitely start) because Clichy is injured and he has very good attacking returns. Once we know who the regular Southampton defenders are I'll transfer kolarov for one of them, preferably Cedric.

    2. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Rate Lambert, but probably too early to put him in yet. Too many unknowns.

      Kolarov, Targett and Saylor could potentially leave you with 2 defenders on any given week.

      1. Pochecinno
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I'm not really sure who else in Lambert's price range is worth putting?

        1. BIG TONES
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Wilson, Deeney etc are all popular choices.

          Or you free up more funds from your squad and go more expensive.

    3. fantasyfanatic2016
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Scrap Lambert, Graham and you have a decent team. Mabye look at Wilson/Deeney

    4. maratus
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Your bench defenders are not playing much.. Upgrade atleast one of those to get playing 4.5m defender. Kolarov also has rotation risk?
      Mid is really nice.
      West brom has really awful fixtures, i would not go with lambert in early season..

      I would simply downgrade Kolarov in order to upgrade your bench defender and lambert to sakho?

      1. Pochecinno
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Scrapping Lambert seems to be the consensus, although I'll definitely want him later in the season. I can't really take Sakho because he's more expensive, he also has Arsenal away first fixture. I'm tempted to go for Bojan instead which will give me an extra 0.5 for upgrading sub defence. thoughts?

  4. Asmodeusz
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    RMT pls
    Courtois (McCarthy)
    Kolarov(vc) Monreal Cedric (Williams Gomez)
    Walcott(c) Sterling Lens Ibe (Chadli)
    Rooney Kane Benteke

    1. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Kolarov, Monreal and Gomez aren't 100% nailed every week. Play it safer to begin with.

      Chadli > Hendo/Milner Ibe > 4,5 bench player. Boom, you have a nailed Liverpool midfielder upgrade

  5. Lallana_
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Bottomed. Any thoughts on a Deeney/Ritchie rotation combo? Deeney being the 5th midfielder.

    You get:

    AVL (H) - Ritchie
    WBA (H) - Deeney
    SOU (H) - Deeney
    LEI (H) - Ritchie
    SWA (H) - Deeney
    SUN (H) - Ritchie
    CRY (H) - Deeney
    WAT (H) - Ritchie

    1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Looks good as such. But players score or assist in away fixtures as well. Better to stick with a permanent starter and a player that you will bench every week imo.

  6. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    If mata is benched or misses a penalty , do we expect the next one to be taken by Rooney or does he stay at the back end of the line ?

    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney not on penalties? Did i miss something (legit question)?

      1. the cromulent one
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Some ridiculous LvG scheme where the designated penalty taker keeps taking them until he misses one, at which point he goes to the back of a circular queue of 5 players. Apparently Mata is first up, or at least he was last year. Who knows to start this year...

      2. Arvin-ation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        We're not quite sure, atm(nothing concrete). All we have to go on is that Mata was the last penalty taker. I do believe Rooney will reclaim them for the new season though.

        1. @BigChrisso
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks for the info guys

    2. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney, imo.

      1. the cromulent one
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Is that based on anything concrete?
        I agree that would make sense, but we are talking about LvG here.

        1. Arvin-ation
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          He's the captain, it's a new season, (IMO indicates it's just my opinion. 🙂 )

    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I believe i read this ridiculous filosofee that if you miss a penalty you go to the back of the cue(Even if you are THE best penalty taker in the team!) and all the worse penalty takers got to miss their penalties until you get a chance again. Bit ridiculous

      1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        That's what I meant by ' back end of the line ' .

        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          So basically i agree with the "back end of the line" part of your question :grrr:

          1. Pochecinno
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            LVG really is a rabid psychopath. What a genuine weirdo

  7. Harry 13
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Which Arsenal Midfielder should I get?

    1. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Walcott if you like excitement, Caz/Ozil/Ramsey if you like safety

    2. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Theo or ozil

  8. The Mighty Slovenian
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone interested in a draft type fantasy game? Draft starts in 14 hours:

    https://www.dugoutfc.com/league/6735808887259136/i

  9. mranonymous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    How do I delete my FPL account?

    1. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      by jumping from the bridge

      1. BIG TONES
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        +1 can confirm

    2. :
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      My Account, Update Your Account, Delete Your Account (bottom right hand side).

      Careful, you might start a rush.

    3. Flynniesta
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      FPL is for life, not just for pre-season

  10. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Will we get a better idea of who will lead the line for CHE this weekend?

    A certain community champ contender would like to know

    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      hey FW, good luck do us proud!

      Not sure if Jose will lets us know or not

      1. the cromulent one
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Probably not. Already with the stupid mind games.

        1. @BigChrisso
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Obviously trying to win the FPL title himself

    2. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Wait until pressers. It's all just speculation until then

  11. Shifty
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    What's the strategy with Chelsea defenders if they get off to a rough start?

    Keep for whole season unless injured? Or will hop off if they start off like how they did last season.

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Speculation is speculation let's cross this bridge when we get to it

      1. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Why can't there be a plan? Most managers at the end of last season were saying "Ivanovic is in my team from GW til the end". How strong is their resolve?

        This isn't just a hypothetical...we're talking about 6-7m of our budget in one defender who no doubt will be at the top of the def charts come GW38.

        1. TJ_777
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Azpi is a season keeper IMO

          Although other teams have upgraded chelsea are arguably the best defensively

          I think rough start may make me look elsewhere however because of TV

          1. Shifty
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            your 3rd line contradicts your first line. if he's a season keeper, he's a season keeper.

            1. TJ_777
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              If everyone and their mothers transfer him out obviously I won't keep him

              In my third line I'm saying somehow transfer out counts are at like 200000

              Basically no I'm sticking with Azpi for season

              1. Shifty
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                fair enough.

    2. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Keep unless injured and even then shift to another Chelsea defender. They can spring up a run of 3-4 CS anytime.

    3. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I am using Ivan a one option for funding Kun. If it all goes tits up at the back for Chelsea out come Ivan to fund the Kun

      1. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Good thinking there, with Ivan as Aguero bank amidst other options.

        1. @BigChrisso
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          i think having multiple options for Kun (or Dirty Sanchez) is vital

      2. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I thought about this.. but some other priorities will always come up. Ive decided to go with Aguero as my Aguero bank in the end 🙂

  12. SomewhatPleasing
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Can I have a spot of assistance please people. My team has come together well over the past week but a bit of tinkering in defence has clouded my view of what's preferable.

    I have both Leicester keepers. 3 defender spots fixed for most weeks.

    The 2 remaining 4.5's were Francis & Prodl based on price, chance of starting and the Bournemouth / Watford rotation.

    I've been fiddling with swapping Prodl with Huth as I see Watford struggling and have more hope for Leicester as a team and rate Huth as a player.

    This would give me double Leicester defence if ever forced or needed and a poorer rotation with Francis.

    Any thoughts? Thanks

    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Back the team more than the rotation/fixtures etc.. I know who i'd want coming off my bench in an emergency between Huth and Prodl. Maybe try out Coates too

    2. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I wouldn't be afraid to double up. I went double-double most of last season with the various defensive bandwagons for stretches at a time. worked well.

      Krul-Saylor at start > Guzan-Hutton > Dawson-Myhill > Morgan-Schmeichel

      The latter 2 double ups were achieved with WCs. The Krul/Saylor > Guzan/Hutton used 2 FTs but paid off in spades.

      1. SomewhatPleasing
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for that chaps. It's provided me with a clear view. Much obliged.

      2. dmhomag
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I had Foster Clyne Bertrand triple for their amazing stretch.

        Then Wisdom Foster Myhill.

  13. La Roja
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    @shifty

    Still got Lolarov?

    1. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yep still in there!

      But have a draft without for if I bottle it 😀 you?

  14. @BigChrisso
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    This season needs to start already, have got this squad and was happy with it but the more i look at it the unhappier i become. #FPLProblems

    Kaspar / Butland

    Ivan / Cedric / Huth / Francis / Bassong

    Hazard / Walcott / Mane / Lens / Bentaleb

    Rooney / Kane / Wilson

    1. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Looks fine. Standard looking team for this forum

      1. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        thats kinda the problem....

        Kane and Rooney sitting there staring me in the face as the two highest owned forwards is the other

  15. cricketmad787
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Which 4.5 defender? Defence at the moment is:

    Butland-Schmeichel
    Azpilicueta-Cedric-Jenkinson-Coates-________

    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Huth

      1. cricketmad787
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeh was thinking him. Cheers!

    2. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Francis or Huth

      Would do Williams instead of Jenko as well

    3. OReiMessi
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Francis

  16. nedfoo
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Would love some feedback on this squad

    Ruddy | Rudd

    Azpi | Huth | Ward | Coates | 4.0

    Hazard | Sterling | Walcott | Mane | Chadli

    Rooney | Benteke | Hooper

    1. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Get 5 playing defenders instead of having a 4.0

      Hooper - It's a no from me

  17. TekkersFC
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Peoples thoughts on Gomis?

  18. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Guys thoughts on this team?

    cech
    azpi cedric bassong
    sterling hazard walcott barkley
    rooney kane Jerome

    henn wanyama targett jenkinson

    Barkley is a one gw punt. Hendo in for gw2. Might chicken out and change Walcott and Jerome > ozil and Wilson before deadline. Hopefully not.

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Terrible money allocation

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Any suggestions?

    2. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      D -

      Start again.

    3. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Good.

  19. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Don't think I'll have anyone in the 1st game of the season.
    Should I be worried?

    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      no....

    2. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      be glad. I currently have 2 and am already depressed.

      1. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        This. Cue a nil all bore fest with Smailing and Vert getting 3 baps each. Oh the horror

          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Don't say that! I've got Eriksen, Depay and Rooney :O

    3. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hmm mayb. questionable tho

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Not as fun

    4. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Probably not

    5. SomewhatPleasing
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lot of guys in that match that could hurt. Only 1 myself, Rooney.

      Plenty of alternative and exciting picks in the matches that follow though hopefully for both of us.

  20. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    pick two out of Walcott, Ozil and Mane. I have Pelle and Cedric and no other Arsenal.

    1. robdag
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Walcott + Ozil

    2. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Walcott and Ozil considering you other players

      In a vacuum I'd have Mane and Walcott (wait, i do have them.... good)

      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        think I'll do Wally > Mane once Sanchez is back if it seems like Giroud takes precedence

      2. Jayblue
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I have mane and ozil. I want walcott too 🙁

  21. robdag
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this:

    Boruc - Ruddy
    Ivan - O'Shea - Huth - Mings - Bassong
    Hazard - Sterling - Walcott - Hendo - Coq
    Rooney - Benteke - Deeney

    - I plan to play Ivan plus two of the remaining defenders. They rotate quite well for the first 10 GWs
    - Is it worth upgrading one of the keeprs to Pants?

    Appreciate any input

    1. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      O'Shea > Coates

      Don't waste an Arsenal slot on bench fodder. Get a different 4.5, there's a few standard ones.

      Good apart from the above

  22. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    mmm like this

    Schmeichel - Butland
    Lescott - Cedric - Huth - O'Shea - Francis
    Hazard - Walcott - Ozil - Ritchie - Westwood
    Rooney - Kane - Pelle

  23. Jayblue
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Any thoughts?
    Cech (hennessey)
    Azpi huth cedric (oshea baker)
    Haz sterling ozil mane (yacob)
    Rooney(c) benteke wickham
    Is benteke a bad option? Should i go for lukaku instead? RMT

    1. ONTHEGEAR
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      get benteke !

  24. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Alright. Finally going to strap myself for three hours and create my team.

    What are the good cheap goalkeepers and defender combinations going around?
    Who is this Mahrez dude?
    Is Bellerin worth a shout over Kos?

    1. Jayblue
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mahrez was brilliant in the last season and this summer's preseaso . hes definitely worth a punt. Bellerin wouldn't be a great choice.he might not play every match. Rotation and stuff

    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Regarding Mahrez.. Ranieri loves him and has been playing him behind the front 2 in preseason. He is taking most of their set pieces and has looked their best player even under Ranieri(Arguably their best player when fit last season and in the championsip). Pearson had a lil bit of trouble controlling him but Ranieri looks like he's finally gonna make Mahrez live up to his potential. Now put him in your team and pretend you dont have him and dont mention him on here again since there are a few differentials left as it is 🙂

      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Nailed on?

        Hit me with keeper and cheap defender combos.

        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Till he messes up and his form tails off.. yes. Plus it's the tinkerman so a small risk is attached

    3. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Popular cheap GK rotation : Butland/Ruddy, opton B: just Pantilimon

      Bellerin will save you the 0.5, and seems to have established himself as first choice over Debuchy, but there's always a chance...if you need the 0.5 go for him, if not go for Kosc who's a goal threat and a baps magnet.

  25. mbrucie
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A) Walcott

    B) Sterling

    Already have Ozil.

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not A fan of doubling up so I'd go sterling

    2. Jayblue
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B

  26. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Is owning Lukaku just for GW1 a legit option?

    Seem to only want him for that week, then would rather Tekkers.

    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If you think he scores big, sure. Best fixture of the lot. In form, and on penos. Why not.

    2. BIG TONES
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If it's just for one week, then yeah,

      You know the rules when you pick him though.

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      If you think he will beat Benteke by 5 or more then it's an easy one.

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        why 5 or more? it wont take a hit to get trekkers if you leave 0.5 itb.

        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          This.

      1. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Why 5 or more? I'm not taking a hit to transfer him out. It would be for free.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          FTs are really worth 4 especially if you get an injury.

          1. Acquafresca
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            that's complete bullocks.

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Is it? Say you have Hazard & he gets injured in GW1. Everyone sells for free whilst you take a hit. If Benteke matches Lukaku in GW1, how has that punt worked out vs someone with the same team as you who saves the FT in GW2?

                • 12 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Then sell Hazard and hold Lukaku for a week, its hardly the end of the world.

                Lukaku will have then played WAT sot, rather than the target WAT, BOU games we were hoping for but its not much worse than stop, BOU for Benteke and the whole thing is an opportunity dashed. Injuries and suspension happen to your XI yes but its less than one every other week so there's benefit in trying to and plan ahead.

            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            If that were the case I'd gladly bank 4 points most weeks rather than make any changes.

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              That's why saving the transfer is important at times. You can do lots with 2 FTs over one. Simon March said as much in his article. Benteke smashing it in GW2 & being stuck with Lukaku would hurt whereas if that is the forced plan then a hit is necessary when 11.5 is injured for example.

                • 12 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Sorry, I got stuck on the later pages, you don't literally get 4 points for saving an FT but if you did I'd bank them rather than make transfers many weeks. What they are is a limited resource to be used efficiently that have an indirect value based on the improved score your squad makes. Hits have an indirect value based on the same improvement to your squad but with a -4 adjustment.

                Yes having 2 FTs is has more potential as it opens up more options as money can be reallocated between slots. But if you can't see a double transfer you like to make in two weeks time it can often be more beneficial to use it immediately if you see a single transfer you do want to do.

                And with regards to this situation, if Benteke becomes too expensive and you don't judge the hit to be worth it there are also viable escape routes such as Pelle and Sakho with good fixtures too. Plan but be flexible.

  27. BIG TONES
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Alright then, I've given it out. Now time to get it back.

    RMT

    Ruddy (Butland)
    Ivan - Kosc - Huth (Coates - Francis)
    Haz - Walcott - Mane - Mahrez - Fletcher
    Rooney - Benteke - Wilson

    Cheers team.

    1. robdag
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I like it.

      Is Fletcher nailed on?

      1. BIG TONES
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        As far as I know. Could always change to another 4.5 if it was proven otherwise

  28. RNGD Shobby
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I'm done. Unless you can suggest some improvements...

    Cech (McCarthy
    Azpilicueta - Huth - Francis (Cedric, Alderweireld)
    Hazard - Sterling - Ozil - Henderson (Sinclair)
    Rooney - Pelle - Wilson

    0.5 ITB

  29. Butters_lfc9
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ruddy-Rudd
    Azpi-Cedric-Huth-Coates-Saylor
    Haz-Ramsey-Mane-Ritchie-Fletcher
    Costa-Rooney-Sakho
    1ITB

    Plan was to have the 1ITB and then downgrade one of Sakho or Mane to allow me to get Aguero. Would I be better off using the 1ITB to upgrade Ritchie to Hendo though?

    1. maratus
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Costa is injured

  30. amitmishr
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Sakho vs. Berahino

    1. ihateramsey2
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Defoe vs Fletcher

      1. amitmishr
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Defoe... as Fletcher is unfit. But would go for Wilson at 5.5 as a new target man would arrive at Sunderland, pushing both defoe and fletcher