The Knee Jerk
29 October 2011 3157 comments
Mark Mark
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The concept of a player being fixture proof in Fantasy football is a much discussed topic around these parts. Wayne Rooney put forward a strong case a few gameweeks back, defying United’s tricky opening to the season with a points tally that left all but Sergio Aguero in his wake. Today, Robin Van Persie perhaps presented even stronger evidence that, when a player has talent and form, no opposition can stand in their way.

Van Persie is certainly a force of nature right now. Seven goals in his last three games have propelled him to the top of every Fantasy manager’s most wanted list. The Dutchman, along with Rooney and Aguero, have all enjoyed devastating spells of form this season. Any Fantasy manager who has failed to catch at least one of them, surely finds themselves floundering.

Ironically, it’s Wayne Rooney who has been hugely overshadowed by Van Persie’s recent returns. Today at Goodison, Rooney dropped alarmingly deep, as Alex Ferguson charged Danny Welback and Javier Hernandez to push on. In Fantasy terms, certainly as far as our own ICT Index is concerned, Rooney suffered his least effective 90 minutes of the season – the numbers are there – our Members can see for themselves.

Van Persie meanwhile, made a mockery of the fixture list which told us that a trip to Chelsea would pose him problems; that perhaps he couldn’t maintain his recent form at Stamford Bridge. Friday night’s decision to go with Van Persie over Sergio Aguero in the Scout Picks wasn’t taken lightly. We suspected that the Chelsea defence would be unable to keep the Dutchman at bay. Nobody could have predicted the havoc he would cause, the delicious end product he would deliver.

In three games, Van Persie has returned 36 Fantasy Premier League points – a tally that will surely increase with bonus points on Monday and perhaps the award of an assist for Theo Walcott’s goal. In contrast, Rooney has produced 5 points over the same three gameweeks. When you throw in the captaincy, that’s a big swing and painful reading for those who held Rooney with faith that his undoubted talent and early season form would see him through.

Conveniently, then, that takes us full circle. While Van Persie has done so much today to prove the theory that, with class and form, the opposition is irrelevant, Rooney’s recent returns present strong evidence of the contrary. The matches against Liverpool, City and Everton looked tough for Rooney- five points is certainly proof of that. Another twist in what is rapidly becoming a fascinating Fantasy season.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. differentgravy
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    No he wont..goals conceded after red card still count

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  2. Connor's Calling
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    Is Aguero DEF going to rise in price tonight? Got 1m spare to do Aguero -> rVp...who's clearly going to rise. So need Aguero to get to 11.4 to avoid an early transfer!

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      he most likely will, i dont think enough people will be transferring him out by then. RVP also goes up tonight though..

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  3. tw
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    so much doubt after today's results! i know this is all very knee jerky but just some thoughts im considering. obviously i'd only do one or two if i did any

    time to ditch rooney for rvp? or is it worth keeping for uniteds run of fixtures? right now my only united cover is the roonster and ive got just ramsey from arsenal.

    dyer to allen?

    one of ramsey and walters out for either petrov or sess?

    bosingwa out for someone?? thinking its time to get rid here as i'm really frustrated with 2 and 1 point returns

    and i obviously want to get ward out at some point.

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    1. Cashnex
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      Ditch Rooney for rvp IMO. I'd keep ramsey and walters though.

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      1. cechmate
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        Agree 100% with this. Ramsey and Walters are the best mid price midfielders. Rooney is playing as a midfielder and not worth 12m while he's in that role.

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      dont get petrov mate, go for drenthe instead

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  4. Bazman returns
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    Luis Suarez produces a left-footed shot from inside the area that goes over the bar.

    Comment from BBC I think is probably the most stated comment on their football site.

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    1. mufc802
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      I was thinking that just before lol.

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  5. FPL Daniel
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    Everybody, here are the facts:

    Kompany will have the CS awarded in Monday, together with the RVP assist and he is banned for 3 games. And I told you, that Bosingwa is banned, he got 0 points right? How he can get points when he is banned? Silly people...

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    1. Yossi
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      Derp... Kompany won't get the CS....... Silly people....

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        Yeah he will!!!

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        1. Yossi
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          "If a player receives a red card, they will continue to be penalised for goals conceded by their team."

          I love being right.....

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        2. wrong
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          from the fpl site man united 1 man city 6

          evans played 46 mins conceded 6 goals

          jones played 25 mins conceded 4 goals

          evans was penalized for each goal conceded when he was off the pitch

          jones wasnt

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      2. Bazman returns
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        And the reason why Bos got 0 points is because Chelsea conceded 5.

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      3. TranE
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        +1

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    2. DV8R
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      He played...Bosingwa got 0 points because he played 90 and conceded 5 goals.... Do you ever pay attention?

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    3. heartsattack
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      Kompany will not have his clean sheet awarded. I've had a player sent off for conceding a penalty and the subsequent goal still stood against him.

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    4. Demí
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      You sold Suarez coolJ? tut tut

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        Yeah I sold him for Aguero, I was scared 😀 And brought Kompany. Nice job this time 😀 It was 11.25 am Saturday transfer

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    5. Kings of Lyon ★
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      love this post 🙂
      someone that speaks sense

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        Thank you Kol, finally someones who understands 😉

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    6. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      Cock

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  6. RoyaleBlue
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    Ward for a wigan defender there cheap and have some easy games

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    1. Syd.
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      No such thing as an easy game for Wigan

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      1. Bazman returns
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        +1000000000000

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    2. heartsattack
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      Keep ward and play him next week.

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      1. RoyaleBlue
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        THANX

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  7. My Name don't Mata
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    Sickened over not having RV3 as capt, Aggro only got an assist

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  8. Cars and Mané
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    Suarez is so bad at finishing.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      i thought the same after the stoke match

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      One more shot of target (chuckles)

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  9. applebonkers
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    i think this is another game where suarez will be MOTM but get pipped by adam and carroll to bps

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    1. Bazman returns
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      Poor chap he would be so good if only he could shoot on target.

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    2. Cashnex
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      Standard.

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    3. Kings of Lyon ★
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      yeah maybe even skrtyl for the other

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      I can see a hat-trick of assists, I'd take that.

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  10. Cashnex
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    Anyone here play FIFA 12 (360)?

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  11. kaz 96
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    2 weeks, 26 points(inclucing bonuses)....u did your job,now time to leave sess.

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Hey, kaz, why did I get kicked out of your league? Was I not a regular enough poster 😀

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      1. kaz 96
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        my team was spending too much time in the mid-table section so i decided to kick out everybody new to the league who was above me, poor luck
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        and for the record, no you were disappointing, 1 post in 4 weeks?

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          Classy move. I didn't post once 😉

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    2. Kings of Lyon ★
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      keep him mate

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    3. Mull
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      After United they have 4 nice fixtures.

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    4. Dirty Dhalsim
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      I agree I'm keeping Sess - Can't you bench him?

      After Utd (A) next week his fixtures are Wigan & Fulham (H)

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  12. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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    I think its only a matter of time before suarez does some serious scoring in FPL. I mean like 4 or 5 goals in one match type of thing... The amount of attempts he gets in games is frightening. And yes i know he has been wasteful to date, but eventually the sheer amount of involvement he has in attacks will count for him.

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    1. Bazman returns
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      good point. Question is how long can we wait for him. I fancy Vorm to do well next week with save points etc etc.

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    2. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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      After SWA next week his fixtures toughen up so I'll be getting rid. To me he seems like a card risk too, when things aren't going his way his temper is seriously present, the up and coming fixtures could test him in this aspect too.

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  13. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    when are the CC 1/4 finals?

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    1. kaz 96
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      28 nov

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    2. Kings of Lyon ★
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      gw14 i think 28th nov

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      so not quite 2 liv-chel games in a row

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  14. RoyaleBlue
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    My team for next week
    Begovic(vorm)
    Baines ShawX Jone (Simpson Boyce)
    Silva RVDV Walters Drenthe (Ferguson)
    RVP (C) Dzeko Di Santo
    Do you think i got my startin XI rite ?
    And anyone I should bring in

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I'm not suggesting you take a hit for it but Ferguson, Di Santo and Boyce really need to go over the next few weeks. Baines (too expensive) and Dzeko (too much benching) could be changed as well.

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      1. RoyaleBlue
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        yeah I should try to get rid of Di Santo Boyce and Ferguson.
        I think Baines had some hard fixtures and will do well now and even when Dzeko come on as a sub he usually gets a goal but thanks for the advice

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  15. applebonkers
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    enrique shot on target

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    1. Yossi
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      Any chance of Enrique baps AB??

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      1. applebonkers
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        maybe 1. him, skrtel, adam, carroll and suarez slugging it out right now, as a guess, carroll 3, adam 2, and any of the others 1

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        1. Yossi
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          O.k cheers....

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    2. Syd.
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      dd t go n?

      the s not workng on my keyboard

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        lol

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      2. Yossi
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        No, t dnt....

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  16. Ninjaa
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    Sorry for re post, got to do this either way in the next 15 minutes

    got 2 freebs next week, got rooney gabby and suarez up top,

    1. rooney > rvp straight swap, and strengthen defence with other free transfer
    or
    2. suarez and ramsey(to make rvp funds) > rvp and pilkington

    which one, i’ll have to act before midnight?

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    1. kaz 96
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      2

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    2. Yossi
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      No. 1, even as Rooney owner can't rely on him these days....

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    3. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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      Looking at the fixture lists I'd stay with Rooney. I play the fixtures to a pretty stupid level so I'm considering getting Rooney in for Suarez after SWA game.

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      1. RoyaleBlue
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        2

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  17. FPL Daniel
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    Carrol nailed on the 3 BP

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  18. Red_mist
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    I probably think Suarez's favourite pastime must be shooting off target.

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    1. Cashnex
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      That, and getting a million chances per game...

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      😆

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    3. kaz 96
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      don't forget diving

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      1. Red_mist
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        Well it's on water.

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      2. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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        Biting people and handballing could be on that list too.

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  19. LT10
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    Angel Rangel - 2 assists today and unlucky not to get a clean sheet.
    Excellent value at 4.5 - Consider

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    1. Bazman returns
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      Hmm and there he was in the scout picks. Interesting one.

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    2. LT10
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      Actually, prob not best to get him in considering fixtures.

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    3. OPTA FPL
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      Rangel is the player have the most the ball tough in the league until now

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  20. RoyaleBlue
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    I have got 20.4 mil in the bank and 2 mids to buy who should i get

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    1. Cashnex
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      How the hell do you have 20.4 mil in the bank??

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      1. Silva is Gold.
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        He means after he sells the players...

        Silva and VDV

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        1. Bazman returns
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          Ah that makes more sense. Except selling Silva and VDV who would sell Silva and VDV?

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          1. Bazman returns
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            Oh sorry you meant he will sell players to buy silva and vdv not with it sorry.

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          2. kaz 96
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            oh boy, he means the guy shd get silva and vdv....read the question again

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            1. Bazman returns
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              I think you missed my response. I realised my mistake. I did think it was a bit ridiculous.

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        2. Cashnex
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          Oh yeah, most definitely.

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          1. Silva is Gold.
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            Silva and VDV were my suggestions

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            1. Cashnex
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              No contest, but I assume he must already have Silva.

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      2. Bazman returns
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        Yep I would be really worried if I had £20 m in the bank. Would suggest my team needs a bit of work.

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      3. kaz 96
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        sorry but thats a very dumb question. he means after kicking out two mids, he has 20 mil available for replacements

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    2. kaz 96
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      vdv an silva but im assuming that u already have silva so i'd say nani

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    3. Cashnex
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      Who do you have already?

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  21. Silva is Gold.
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    I know it's early but what would you go with out of:

    Nani and Agbonlahor to RVP and Pilkington/Dyer (Free)

    or

    Nani and Agbonlahor and Shawcross to RVP Sessengon and Wilkinson (4pt

    Pilkington/Dyer and Sess will play every week.

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  22. Menly
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    Can I just take a minute to laugh at everyone who took RVP out of their team

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      i took him after Swansea. I will give you more than a minute to laugh...

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      1. Menly
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        Ah unlucky. Ive had him for the past 3 games 😀

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      2. FPL Daniel
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        One minute of silence is more appropriate

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    2. Yossi
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      Now thats not nice..... We've all made mistakes in this game......

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      1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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        Not having Rooney, Aguero, Dzeko or Young rank up there for this season. The start was not kind to me.

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        1. Yossi
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          Yeah, ditto.....

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          1. Menly
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            Oh I've had some shockers this season. Main one was I didn't start till gameweeks 5 because I was somewhere with no internet 🙁

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          2. Bazman returns
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            And me. Been struggling to make up ground ever since.

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            1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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              On the plus side it has meant that ever since 'playing the fixtures' has started to work to a degree I've had lots of sweet green arrows. Always a charm.

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  23. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    Got to change things around:

    Given Vorm
    Kompany, Bosingwa, Enrique, Simpson, De Laet
    Silva, VDV, Dyer, Cabaye, Walters
    Rooney, Sturridge, Ade

    Kompany 1 game ban so can bench him. 3.6 in bank.

    Options are:

    1 – Rooney–>RVP
    2 – Bos & Ade —>Shawcross and RVP/Aguero (-4)
    3 – Bos & Ade —> Walker and RVP/Aguero(-4)
    4 – Bos & Cabaye —>Shawcross and Ramsey/Nani/Mata (-4)
    5 – Given –>Begovic

    Opinions please?

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  24. GoneFishing
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    As is, would Suarez get the 3 BP

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    1. Kingston
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      My guess is Adam 3 Carroll 2. Suarez will be lucky to get 1 due to number of shots off target

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      1. mufc802
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        Enrique got a chance?

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  25. Syd.
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    Rooney on Twitter...

    "Just have to say 12 o'clock kick off is no good for players. Trying to force pasta down at 9 in the morning is not nice."

    Maybe he should try some rice crispies instead...

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    1. lespaul
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      yeah or get up at 6am

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    2. Menly
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      Or maybe he could man the **** up?

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  26. Lewis - Sky Pod
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    This has been an absolutely pathetic, limp effort from WBA so far.

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    1. Cashnex
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      I honestly thought they were better than this. They've been a shambles.

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  27. Bazman returns
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    So I know we say this every week but how many shots does it take for Suarez to score?

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      7 attempts in average

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  28. Cashnex
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    WTF is Suarez doing! Through ball to the opposing goalkeeper?

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  29. Menly
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    How long is kompany out for?

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      till Christmas

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    2. Cashnex
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      Are you lot just taking the piss out of me for asking the Bosingwa question when I was pissed last night or does this actually happen a lot (been away for a week or so)

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  30. Kuqi Monster
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    good to see Kuqi getting 2 goals today, but did he do his celebration?

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