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23 May 2016 784 comments
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We begin our post-season analysis of the promoted clubs from the Championship by assessing runners-up, Middlesbrough.

The Riverside Stadium outfit will make a belated return to the top flight after seven years in the second tier, securing promotion with a final day stalemate against promotion rivals Brighton.

In this first of three articles on the promoted sides, we will examine Middlesbrough’s record across the 2015/16 season, assess the tactics employed by manager Aitor Karanka and run the rule over their promotion squad, picking out the targets that will likely draw our attention in pre-season.

The Statistics

PWDLFAGDPCS
Total46261196331+328922
Home231652348+265315
Away2310672923+6367

CS = Clean sheets

Karanka’s side built their successful campaign around an organised and robust defence – Middlesbrough conceded just 31 goals, recording 22 shut-outs. That confirmed them as the best backline in the division and broke a 30-year club record for clean sheets.

Boro’s attack, while effective, was ranked in mid-table by comparison. They scored 63 goals, ranking them eighth in the division after they failed to net in 13 of their 46 matches.

The form at the Riverside Stadium proved crucial, with just two defeats and a paltry eight goals shipped.

Interestingly, Boro suffered nine losses overall, losing just twice to teams who finished in the top eight, suffering seven defeats to teams who ended the season 14th or below.

That suggests that Karanka’s side are able to raise their game for the big occasion, but may struggle to earn results in winnable fixtures – a trend that the Spaniard will be keen to correct.

The Manager

Following the departure of Tony Mowbray, Boro took a chance on Karanka – a manager without a proven record and experience who apparently had little knowledge of Championship football. However, a stint as assistant to Jose Mourinho at Real Madrid ensured there was great expectation upon his arrival to the Riverside in November 2013.

The Spaniard’s tenure has been colourful ever since. Having led them to the brink of automatic promotion in 2014/15, he was critisised for Boro’s failure to seize that opportunity, most notably following the 4-3 defeat to Fulham in the penultimate match of the season, when goalkeeper Dimitrios Konstantopoulos was sent forward for an injury time corner kick, only for Boro to concede with the keeper out of position.

The situation took another twist in March this year when Karanka was involved in a much-publicised dispute concerning the signing of Stewart Downing, leading to him relinquishing his duties for the away trip to Charlton that followed.

The board and the supporters eventually rallied behind Karanka, paving the way for his return, which has ultimately led to the Teeside club’s promotion months later.

A staunch advocate of the 4-2-3-1 formation, Karanka is widely regarded as a defensive manager who puts great emphasis on work-rate and diligence, even from his attacking players. Given Boro’s statistics in their promotion season, there’s no doubt he has created a side that embodies that philosophy.

Fantasy managers should expect the same formation and outlook to provide the cornerstone of Boro’s first season back in the top flight, with defensive assets standing out over any existing or newly-acquired attacking prospects.

In addition, we should be prepared for rotation – particularly in attacking areas. Karanka developed a reputation as the “Teeside Tinkerman” throughout his Championship campaigns and often came under criticism for seemingly turning his back on key players, despite a flow of results…

“I always (pick) the best XI and the best eleven players in my head is the XI I put on the pitch. (Fans) have their best XI but they don’t know how (the players are) training, how they are in terms of injuries or pains. It’s difficult for people to understand a lot of things, but I have to manage it and sometimes when one player is not confident or I can feel he is not confident on the training ground, I have to choose the best XI.”

Should Boro expand the squad and give Karanka more options, we should be wary of this rotation policy extending to the Premier League.

The Promoted Squad

Having missed out on promotion via the play-offs in 2014/15, Karanka kept faith with his formation and tactics and formed the plans around a backbone of two strong central defenders in Daniel Ayala and Ben Gibson, shielded by a pair of combative holding midfielders in Grant Leadbitter and Adam Clayton.

Around this foundation, Boro relied on an attacking spark from the flanks and, in particular the creativity of a “number ten”.

While big signing Stewart Downing begun the season in this role, he eventually gave way and shifted to the flank and it was the influence of Gaston Ramirez, on loan from Southampton, that was to provide a key creative contribution over the second half of the season.

With Jordan Rhodes arriving for a record fee to provide a late flurry of goals, Karanka’s squad did enough to see off Brighton for second spot.

It’s widely expected that the Spaniard will show faith in his squad, handing the opportunity for many of the promoted side to make a claim for regular Premier League starts.

Here’s an assessment of the current squad, researched and contributed by community member and Boro fan Okladomah.

Dimitrios Konstantopoulos (46 starts) – an assured shop-stopper who is strong on crosses, Konstantopoulos instills confidence and boasts a wealth of experience. A fan favourite, he was the undisputed first-choice in the league in 2015/16, achieving that record 22 clean sheets in 46 league games – at 37, though, Karanka seems likely to look at signing a new keeper to challenge his position.

Emilio Nsue (37 starts, 3 sub appearances. 3 goals, 2 assists) – a versatile asset who eventually made the right-back role his own. Nsue – who can also be utilised on the right wing and plays up front for Equatorial Guinea – has the potential to emerge as an out of position prospect if he’s classified as a defender, although a starting role is far from assured. His versatility could also see him demoted to the role of a squad rotation player; a new right-back is likely to be high on the summer shopping list.

Daniel Ayala (34 starts, 1 sub appearance. 3 goals, 1 assist) – a bargain acquisition from Norwich, Ayala is an integral component of the backline. Strong in the air and equally effective on the ground, he averaged 6.3 clearances and 3.5 interceptions per appearance, which indicates that he’ll be a “magnet” for bonus points, whilst Ayala also possesses a goal threat from set-plays. Injuries are a concern and he also received seven bookings from his 35 appearances, so could very well trouble the suspension tightrope.

Ben Gibson (32 starts, 1 sub appearance, 1 goal) – despite being the chairman’s nephew, nepotism is not at play here. Gibson is a strong centre-back who reads the game well. He’s not the most competent with the ball and could get found out, while he also fails to match Ayala for bonus point potential: he is less dominant in the key areas – clearances, blocks and interceptions (CBI). Nonetheless, Gibson looks certain to present an assured and consistent route into the Boro defence and could win suitors if he’s priced kindly in relation to team-mates.

George Friend (39 starts, 1 sub appearance, 1 goal, 2 assists) – regarded by many as the best left-back in the Championship, the £100,000 signing from Doncaster is a fans’ favourite. “Handsome George” suffered a dip in performance last season but is still considered a superb prospect. An aggressive, intelligent reader of the game, Friend registered 2.5 interceptions per match with 2.3 tackles won. He can also bomb forward to provide width, although his end product could be better. An assured starter and a potential ever-present, Friend could challenge Ayala for bonus potential if he can improve his attacking output.

Grant Leadbitter (39 starts, 2 sub appearances, 4 goals, 3 assists) – Captain and one of two defensive midfielders in Karanka’s preferred formation, Leadbitter is the main motivating force in the side. He’ll likely retain duties on free-kicks and penalties, having rotated the former with Gaston Ramirez and Stewart Downing, and could offer some potential in the fifth midfielder slot, depending on his price point. However, there are some that feel that Karanka will look to replace him with concerns on his age and ability to step up a level – a lack of pace and agility may find him out. Leadbitter is also a card magnet have collected 11 bookings over the season.

Adam Clayton (41 starts, 2 sub appearances, 1 goal, 1 assist) – a vital cog in the Boro machinery, the former Leeds and Huddersfield man breaks up play with his aggressive tackling and ability to intercept passes. While Clayton’s overall contribution and key statistics in areas such as passing completed and tackles are impressive, his attacking output is extremely limited; that’s likely to see Clayton’s importance to Boro overlooked across many Fantasy games. He will likely be a factor, however, given that, when he’s absent, Karanka’s defence is far more exposed which could knock on to Boro’s clean sheet potential. Clayton is very prone to disciplinary issues: having picked up 13 yellow cards last season, at least one Premier League suspension seems likely.

Adam Forshaw (9 starts, 20 sub appearances, 2 goals, 2 assists) – a skillful central midfielder mainly used as an impact sub. Forshaw can play in the centre or as a “number ten†and with his excellent passing skills, has the potential to create chances but lacks consistency and most importantly, assured pitch time.

Stewart Downing – (40 starts, 5 sub appearances, 3 goals, 5 assists) – while he’s a known name and a big money signing, Downing undoubtedly failed to live up to expectations and rarely offered the performances to influence matches over the campaign. Downing started life at Boro in the number ten role but was sacrificed for former player Diego Fabbrini and subsequently Gaston Ramirez. The switch saw him play left or right wing, where he again failed live up to his billing. While Downing offers a wealth of top-flight experience, it’s questionable whether he can raise his game to replicate the form and points output he demonstrated in spells at West Ham.

Albert Adomah (36 starts, 7 sub appearances, 6 goals, 5 assists) – a tricky and pacey winger who can play on either flank and has been likened to Palace’s Yannick Bolasie. An ability to make surging runs and beat his man makes Adomah a potentially exciting Fantasy prospect, although, like Bolasie, his form can dip alarmingly at times.

Christhian Stuani – (20 starts, 16 sub appearances, 7 goals, 1 assist) – the Uruguayan has played on the right wing as direct competition for Adomah and has shown decent ability which has kept him in Karanka’s plans. Unfortunately, his aggressive tendency means he can get on the wrong side of referees, which, along with questionable pitch time, makes him unlikely to tempt Fantasy investment.

Jordan Rhodes (13 starts, 5 sub appearances, 6 goals, 2 assists) – signed for a princely sum of £9 million from Blackburn Rovers (rising to £11 million following promotion) Rhodes arrived on Teeside burdened with huge expectation but has repaid that hefty fee, in part at least. An intelligent player who toils for the team, Rhodes undoubtedly relies on his a eye for an opportunity and movement off the ball to fetch goals. A lack of pace can lead him to being isolated, though, and may yet see Rhodes struggle in the top flight as a lone striker.

David Nugent (24 starts, 14 sub appearances, 8 goals, 7 assists) – a player we know well from previous stints in the Premier League, Nugent is an extremely hard worker who makes intelligent runs off the ball and can cause defenders problems. However, age is clearly a factor and this will likely limit his role next season.

Potential Targets

Boro will doubtless look to strengthen and “upgrade†their squad in all areas.

Only last week Chairman Steve Gibson has announced the club’s intent, conveying a strong message to fans ahead of the summer…

“A lot of the work has been done in terms of recruitment for next season and thankfully we can press ahead with plan A. We know our targets and we can start that process…we are a club with no debt, we own the stadium and we own the training ground. We’ll have to make some investment in the stadium, a lot has changed in the seven years we have been out of the Premier League. So there will be a small investment in that, but other than that every penny we’ve got will be to improve the squad.”

Despite having funds available, an extensive overhaul seems unlikely. There is a strong belief that Karanka will seek to build around the foundation of the side that has earned promotion, adding depth and injecting more experience.

Gaston Ramirez will undoubtedly be the first name discussed.

An inspired loan signing from Southampton in January, Ramirez has been an integral part of the success story in 2016 having been handed the freedom of the number ten role. His creativity, excellent range of passing and vision makes him the ideal playmaker and his dead-ball delivery is also a key factor.

Signing Ramirez on a full-time basis will likely be a major priority and certainly something that the fans will demand. Ramirez has, of course, failed to deliver in the top flight previously and so the jury remains out on the Uruguayan. However, there’s little doubt that he’s played some of his best football in England under Karanka which hints at Ramirez offering huge potential as a Fantasy prospect if he settles on Teeside.

Elsewhere the priorities are likely to be between the posts, with a replacement for Konstantopoulos lined up, and up front, as Boro seek a new source of goals. With Rhodes and Nugent the only current options as strikers, a lack of pace is a real concern.

That striker, plus Ramirez may well be the only “flair†players brought in, with top-flight experience and suitability to Karanka’s philosophy and style the key factors guiding business.

In defence there are already hints that Karanka has targeted the right-back area as a position in which to strengthen. Tomas Kalas was brought in on loan from Chelsea over the previous two seasons and made 19 starts last term: he could be explored as an option for a return, as could fellow loanee Ritchie de Laet from Leicester.

Alvaro Arbeloa is another name apparently being discussed, with Karanka possibly using his connections back at his former club to influence a deal for the experienced former Liverpool full-back, who is currently out of contract following his spell at Real Madrid. Aissa Mandi, an Algerian international, has also been reported as a target.

Elsewhere, the names currently being put forward by the local press are again based on a policy of recruiting experience. Stoke City’s Jon Walters is a player who is likely to attract the attention of all the promoted teams given that he seemingly remains unsettled at the Britannia.

Meanwhile, West Brom’s James Morrison is a proven Premier League schemer who is also out of contract and being lined up for a return to Boro according to reports. Indeed, it’s stated that the club are willing to break their wage structure in order to acquire Morrison.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. ttownstokie
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I cant find anywhere in the rules saying that you can make subs as the game week progresses or you can keep changing your capt in the same game week , I remember that the last McDonalds game you could but I cant see it stated anywhere for this game. Are we all just assuming it's the same as last time?

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Well that's just what I automatically assumed. 😆

      1. ttownstokie
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        And me , going with the flow 😀

    2. FFFrog
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      We have had confirmation from Uefa themselves! It was in the hot topics.

      1. ttownstokie
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        But you know how bent UEFA are 🙂

        1. VS10_
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          It's been always like that in the Uefa games and we have had confirmation. I would think that is enough for people, but clearly not. 🙂

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Link?

            1. VS10_
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Old hot topic. Haven't bookmarked.

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Not that I don't believe you or anything 😀 Was just curious.

    3. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I've been saying this! There's nothing to suggest this everyone's assuming

    4. Ruth_NZ
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      "Your team will be locked only when the first match of the day starts, so you can make any changes you need to your team until the scheduled start of the match – you can transfer/substitute players depending whether it's a transfer or substitution period.

      The substitution period will be available between gamedays where you can replace a starting XI player with a bench player."

      http://eurofantasy.uefa.com/en/fantasy16/how-to-play

  2. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Love how United stuck through LvG's nonsense for ages but now he's finally won something they feel it's time to sack him.

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Never ideal sacking a manager mid season.. An FA cup win was fantastic for the fans and players but Wigan won it a few years ago and were relegated.. it's not nearly enough to keep a manager in a job after all that's gone before

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I know, just the timing is strange. Couldn't they have waited a week or two - let him enjoy his victory?

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          No we have to move on now

          1. Shirokov(c)
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Why?

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Because time doesn't stop.. We need a new manager

            2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              The Euro's are going to seriously disrupt the Summer and Mourinho is going to want to bring in new players . It's better to get your business done as soon as possible or Bayern will buy them 🙂

              1. KingNidge
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Ha well this is another way of looking at it 🙂

  3. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I'm a compulsive midnight show watching muncher. Is this a thing? How do i solve it?

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Get a job.

    2. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      What have you been watching? Just finished Trailer Park Boys myself, looking for something new.

      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Currently Shark Tank.

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Eat all the food so there is none left to much on.

  4. adam28193
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    current thoughts please?

    Patricio, Mucha

    Koscienly, Alba, Rodriguez, Hector, Denayer

    Alli, Perisic, Alaba, Grosicki, Rafa Silva

    Lewandowski, Janko, Muller

    1. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I would like to get confirmation that Rodriguez is on penalties for Switzerland before paying 6mil for him. Otherwise looks pretty good.

      1. Konig Luther
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        hi.. is there any spot left in Seleção portuguesa?

        1. VS10_
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          We are full, sorry. I know you would have liked to represent your country ðŸ™

          1. Konig Luther
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Thanks anyway

      2. adam28193
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        i'd like him even if he wasn't, he takes corners too and gets forward

    2. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure Lewa is worth it.

      1. adam28193
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        really? why not

        1. Shirokov(c)
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Just imply too expensive imo.

          1. adam28193
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            who would you get instead?

      2. Jazz!
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Definitely worth it v NIR at least. But his goal scoring record has been immense.

  5. KingNidge
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Louis's gone it's official

    lol

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Why lol?

      1. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Its a huge relief to have him gone it bring's a lot of different emotions some of which are expressed with smiling laughter etc etc

        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          When Puncheon scored on Saturday I was trying to figure out whether Utd fans were sad or happy about it.

          Pretty sad when it comes to that.

          I remember when LVG was the next big thing and he was the man to rescue you from the Moyes disaster. Funny how quickly it goes sour these days.

          1. KingNidge
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            It is isn't it.. i agree.. modern day football i guess.. results business and if you ain't getting them and dishing out garbage football week in week out and wasting hundreds of millions of the clubs money at the same time then you can expect to be gone.. simples

          2. Licky
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I remember that Gary Neville article on Sky Sports.

          3. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Wasn't any better than Moyes though, wasted a ridiculous amount of money and his squad management has been a shambles all season, many players in the doghouse etc, and various journalists are now having a field day on series of reports on the tension between the manager and the players.

            I'd definitely say that the United fans were sad when Puncheon scored. I can't think for a second that our fans didn't want an FA Cup...

            Most fans were convinced he'd be gone anyway regardless of the result, so it's not like the fans wanted the team to lose just so his departure would be a certainty. 😕

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              His sacking has visibly upset pretty much everyone that took great pleasure in us slipping further and further away from the top mate.. be a very tough day for them and could get much tougher too

            2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Rooney & Carrick said to have voiced concerns to the management, as well as other seniors players said to be baffled by van Gaal's decisions/tactics. Young was said to be "bemused and mildly horrified" when told he was the backup striker. David de Gea apparently had beef with Goalkeeping coach Frans Hoek (who has also left), etc.

      2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Why not?

    2. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      what are your thoughts mate

      Expecting Jose to be confirmed tomorrow

      1. Jazz!
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I'm more happy about LVG leaving than Mourinho coming in but I hope he can bring success to the club 🙂 And bring us back to where we belong 🙂

        1. JK - Cønt â­
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          well LvG lrvt the sqaud in a better state than he found it

          Martial, Shaw, the youth and we've gone from Cleverley and Anderson to Herrera and Schneiderlin

          Hopefully they get more of a chance under Jose

          1. Jazz!
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I'm sure Martial will definitely be first choice since he's phenomenal. Not sure on Rashford's prospects under Jose of course. Lingard has probably played his last game.

            1. JK - Cønt â­
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              not so sure on that

              not sure he'll be a regular starter, but Jose will appreciate his work-rate

              Hopefully Schneiderlin can be our Matic, I love Morgan

              1. Jazz!
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Yep, would love to see Schniederlin into the action 😀

      2. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I couldn't be happier right now mate a return to winning ways with the FA cup which is huge for the fans and players and now a change of management .. over the moon

        1. Jazz!
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Agree 😀

        2. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I could have sworn Man Utd fans were over the moon that LvG was taking over at Man Utd when he first started, just like they are over the moon now about Mourinho...

          1. KingNidge
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I was.. what's your point?

            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Exactly what I wrote.

              1. KingNidge
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                I was happy when LVG took over from Moyes and im happy Mourinho is taking over from LVG.. two appointments that were monumental disasters... now normally when after a bad period comes change and generally the fans will become quite excited that happier times may be returning.. we aren't naive enough to believe that is guaranteed but do you have a problem with that?

  6. Big4FPL
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone considering an all out 11 but 3 playing subs to at least come in for 1/2 points should by some disaster one of them get injured/sent off to sub them off?

    Something like:
    Patricio (4.0)
    Koscielny Hector Alba Juanfran (Denayer)
    KDB Reus Alli (Rafa-Silva + Kukeli)
    Muller Griezman Aduriz

    0.5 itb on this one^

    Or maybe, should Varane be ruled out:

    Patricio (4.0)
    Hector Alba Juanfran Mangala (Denayer)
    Perisic Ozil Hazard (same bench)
    Griezman Muller Kane

    Just experimenting!

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      "......he has behaved with great professionalism and dignity..."

      Shame the club couldn't have done the same.

      1. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        You seem rather annoyed by this.. perhaps you want to give me a run down of Qpr's blue print for managerial stability over the years

        1. Licky
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I'm guessing he's just a fan, and disappointed in this from a neutral perspective. There's plenty about Liverpool that shames me, always the few fans that act badly, tapping up players, and messing other clubs around. There's always more football clubs an do to act respectfully.

          1. KingNidge
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Well you can choose to believe that or read between the lines and see that anyone not associated with man united will be very unhappy that LVG is no longer our manager.. including yourself lol

            1. Licky
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Do I look at other clubs, aware of their challenge, yes, as does every fan. You'd have to agree whoever leaked the sacking information on Saturday should be dealt with, it was uncouth. But it was inevitable and doing it now allows for the maximum amount of time for the new manager to work. Other than not allowing the team, which is what it was including Van Gaal, to enjoy their victory on Saturday, I don't see the problem personally.

              1. KingNidge
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Van Gaal can count himself very lucky to have even been in that dugout at Wembley on Saturday if you ask me.. but it is what it is.. he's gone.. i'm glad and excited

                1. Licky
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 6 months ago

                  Indeed, we had the same thing with Bodgers, I think to some fans it still hadn't hit home how bad it was, it wasn't so bad results wise people were outright calling for his head, but when you examine it the men were clueless, and would never be able to bring their respective clubs to the next level again.

        2. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          We've written the book on how to eff up being in the Premier League, mate.

          Villa, incidentally, appear to be on their way to copying our bad example, but no doubt about it we've been an embarrassment of a club for a long time. No arguments from me there.

          Just because my club have been a shambles and a laughing stock doesn't disqualify me from expressing my opinion on other clubs, though, no?

          I don't like the way this has been done at all. LVG clearly was unpopular with the fans but the whole way this happened seems rather back handed to me.

          I just think they could have handled it better, thats all.

          Sorry if that upsets your sensibilities, like.

          1. KingNidge
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Maybe it could of been handled better and i have no doubt he could of handled his responsibilities as manager better too..
            I take your point.. and i'm on cloud nine right now as i'm sure you can imagine

            1. Nomar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Yeah, I appreciate that you guys are happy and relieved that the LVG era is over.

              Hopefully Jose can make you a force again.

              1. KingNidge
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Yeah and i appreciate those with no emotional connection to United are a little bit sad to see LVG go given that he was systematically destroying us in every way..

                Jose is a winner but you could argue LVG was too when he took over.. it's not a sure thing but reason for relief to see one gone and serious optimism to see Jose coming

                1. George Sillett
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 6 months ago

                  As a genuine fan of football in general I am delighted that LVG has gone. His brand of football was lttle more than an insult to the genuine supporter who pays his hard earned to watch. I believe all the PL's biggest clubs should be strong and competing at the top level. Yes clubs have to be winners but also it is an entertainment business and people like LVG seem to have forgotten this. Moyes received a poison chalice with a side in need of a complete rebuild due to players in decline or getting to the end of their PL careers. LVG grossly overspent on the players he brought in and did not deliver .

              2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Indeed. Of course this could all go tets up too, but I'm yet to see a single United fan who isn't relieved with the sacking.

                Looks like big changes. Assistant Albert Stuivenberg and GK coach Frans Hoek are also leaving, and unconfirmed reports of Giggs ending his 29 year stay too. José said to want to bring in Rui Faria as his assistant and Silvino Louro as GK coach.

  7. FFFrog
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Opinions on this draft?

    Patricio Berisha
    Alba Kosc Schar Dragovic Guerreiro(just for the 4m)
    KDB Perisic Grosicki Rafa Silva Memushaj
    Lewandowski C Muller Janko

    Planning on wildcarding GW3 to stock up on Romanian defenders and Ronaldo!

    Thanks

    1. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Nice but I'd want to take advantage of the daily subs system. Need to upgrade that Memushaj lad I reckon somehow.

      Otherwise I really like it. Defence is excellent 🙂

      1. FFFrog
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks - he plays on the first day and on set pieces so just a punt! Could you please join the mini league when you have a minute.

        1. Jazz!
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Oh, yes of course.

          1. FFFrog
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Thanks.

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Errr ... Romanian defenders? If you get them day 3, they will have needed to be there day 1 ... 😉

      1. FFFrog
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Oh silly me! 😉

    3. Big4FPL
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I like it a lot, my only question would be is a Poland double up a bit of a risk? Obviously Lewa isn't really but would you not prefer maybe a Frenchman (Matuidi seems underrated on here?) or a German (Kroos or Kosc->Mangala for Ozil?) just my opinion!

      1. FFFrog
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I'm going for the potential explosion of points against Ukraine opposed to potential steady points! Matuidi too defensive for me and same for Kroos.

  8. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    How long do we think Jose will last before he leaves and United do a Chelsea? I say 2 seasons.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      11 weeks, from the first match.

      1. Jazz!
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Well that's a bold prediction, Doosy. 🙂

      2. Shirokov(c)
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Ooof, bold call. I think there's a season in him before an absolute and utter implosion though.

      3. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Come on Doos! You might not like him but you don't really expect him to be booted after 11 weeks?? If he talks regularly with SAF then he'll last a lot longer than that even if his first season is poor. Maybe your tongue is firmly in your cheek .....

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      7 months.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      25 years.

  9. Jazz!
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Isn't Laporte in the France squad?

    1. FFFrog
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Somewhat hindered by his leg being in two pieces!

      1. Jazz!
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Ouch. Didn't know that. ðŸ™

        1. FFFrog
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah believe that may be the issue!

  10. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Wishlist for next season

    DDG/ Courtois
    Bellerin/ Fuchs/ Smalling/ Clyne/ Ivanovic
    Sanchez/ Ozil/ Hazard/ Firmino/ Rooney
    Aguero/ Kane/ Sturridge

    Oh and 150m budget to afford them all 😕 😀

    1. Shirokov(c)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I'l have Bonucci over Ivanovic. 😉

  11. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Welcome.

    http://imgur.com/Sk8ypJN

    1. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      🙂

    2. Licky
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I think the United squad is in far worse state than any of those other clubs at those times. Big job.

  12. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Eintracht Frankfurt score, 2-1 agg

  13. Jonesfromthere
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    So pleased with this, final draft barring injuries/players losing starting positions;

    Sommer | Rui Patricio
    Alba | Rodriguez | Koscielny | Hector | Denayer
    Ozil | Mak | Alaba | Volken Sen | Rafa Silva
    Lewa | Muller | Janko

    1. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I like it. 🙂 🙂

      1. Jazz!
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Keepers + Defence identical to mine except I have Schar instead of Rodriguez 🙂

        1. Jonesfromthere
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Great minds think alike. So do ours

    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I hate the idea of spending £7m on Alba when you could get Spain's goalie for £5.5m

      1. FFFrog
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Which one of Spain's goalies? And they don't carry an attacking threat last time I saw!

        1. Scratch
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          We'll know which one prior to the tournament, DDG in all likelihood.
          Alba scored his only goal of the season yesterday... has a good attacking threat sure but £7m is too dear imo, Schar has a better goal record than him

          DDG + Schar £11m
          Sommer + Alba £12m

          1. Jonesfromthere
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            In qualifying he did okay, a goal and 3 assists I thought? But noted, will have a think

  14. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Hodor.

    1. Licky
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      ðŸ™

    2. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      :'(

  15. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    well, there goes Phil Jones on corners

  16. FFFrog
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Final three places in the Fantasy FrogBall Tournament remaining - one in Czech Republic and two in Romania.

    Good luck to all!

      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      It's amazing how you can easily fill 72 places in just a few days (3 days?) alread after the PL season. I love FFS

      1. FFFrog
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I started about 2 on Saturday- less than 3 days if I finish before 3 tomorrow!

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Top idea. Thanks.

          1. FFFrog
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Thanks for the support and organisation of you and everyone else involved!

  17. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    So United basically need a CB, RW and ST?

    Personally I would throw a CM in there too, maybe a RB also. Should make some money when you take into account who might be leaving (Mata, Carrick, Fellaini, Valencia, Valdes) and those expected to go out on loan (CBJ, Januzaj, Blackett, Pereira, Varela)

    What players would you like to see?

    Personally I think Mourinho might be bold enough to put a crazy bid in for Ronaldo, but Ibrahimovic looks likely.

    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Varane
      not sure on CM, want to see Herrera and Schneiderlin given a proper chance
      Bale or failing him, Mane
      Morata

      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I think CM would be looked at because Schweinsteiger/Carrick's legs have gone, Carrick of course could go on a free?

      2. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Yes because Varane and Bale are going to leave Real Madrid for Man United.

        1. JK - Cønt â­
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          he said who would I like, not who would we get?

          Varane depends, he apparently wants a guarantee of first team football, which he hasn't had since Jose left

          We might get Rodriguez, but Bale is unlikely I agree

    2. Licky
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I would say CM, W/AM, FW personally, I think a lot more needs to be worked in the defense, but the first season I would expect will not see too many changes. There'll be a few out the door and a few in initially, a few more will no doubt be kept for now and will be looked at throughout the season.

    3. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Laporte, Bellarabi and Icardi is probably their market right now. They're fantastic anyway.

    4. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I don't think they need anything. They will get into Europe with their current squad.

      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Unless Man U change most of the players I don't see them finishing in much of a different position to the last 3 years

    5. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Ed Woodward

      3 managers in 3 years, 100's of millions spent and now he had taken on the most poisonous manager in football

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Mendes will have control of that club. Imo.

        1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          James Rodriguez and André Gomes confirmed. 😎

      2. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Couldn't let Pep have it all his own way 🙂

        Bring it on

    6. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      The positions you point to look spot on imo

      We have become quite soft over the last few years and LVG himself complained that we were a rather small team pretty much why Fellaini was used as often as he was.. i would expect Jose to rectify that with some real presence and power down through the spine and some genuine quality on the right flank possibly at full back and definitely in the attacking right position..

  18. GS456
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone doing the telegraph euros game?
    Currently 4 teams for a fiver. £10,000 for the winner, and 24 private mini leagues to join, winner gets £100.

    1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Been looking at it since it launched. Never played the Telegraph game but thinking of going with the same package (4 for £5).

      1. GS456
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Transfer system is good to. 26 in group stage, then can change team totally for knockouts and then get 20 from there.

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Weirdly I'd only want 1 team, and because you get 1 extra team free I'd feel it was a waste.

  19. FCSB
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    RP Mucha
    Hector Dragovic Carvajal Bonucci Fonte
    Hazard Reus Pogba Alli Xhaka
    Griezmann Alcacer Vardy

    $0 ITB

    I know it needs a bit of work, but what do you suggest...

    Thoughts please??

    1. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Carvajal is somewhat of a rotation risk, isn't he?

    2. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Paco not selected. Neither Xhaka is a good fantasy pick.

      1. FCSB
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Ok cool, could you suggest a couple of changes for me please??

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Alba, Alaba, Lewandowski, Grosicky, Mak, Schär ...

      2. Netley Lucas
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I see that Hamdi Salihi has been omitted from the Albanian squad. I wonder if this elevates our dear friend Ledian Memushaj to spot-kick duties?

    3. Konig Luther
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Fonte, Carvajal not nailed (Denayer, Vrsaljko, or others at 4.5)

      Alcacer isn't in Spain squad (Janko, Milik, Shaqiri or something similar)

      1. FCSB
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Great thanks

  20. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Best defender 5.0 or less for the first matchday?

    Can't be from the following teams:

    France, Germany, Wales, Austria, Switzerland, Portugal

    I like Chiriches over the whole group but not the first matchday

    1. Konig Luther
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Glik (poland), Pekarik(slovakia), Lustig

      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        All good shouts - thanks!

    2. FFFrog
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Is glik under 5m?

      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        5.0.

        NIR looks like a cleanie in the making so he could be the one

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Dier for me by some distance, with Glik next best.

      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I don't trust Hodgson with Dier. For me he would be an absolute no brainer, shoe-in to the starting xi but with Woy ....

    4. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Smolnikov, Glik, Pekarík

      1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Apologies, just seen "for first matchday".

        Dier, Glik or Pekarík then.

  21. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Any comments welcome please on this draft. Designed hopefully to take advantage of game day subs/captain change if necessary

    Neuer/Sommer
    Alba,Hector,Kos,Bonucci,
    Denayer
    Alaba,Alli,Busquets,Perisic,
    Rafa Silva
    Griezmann (c -day1), Janko, Lewandowski

    1. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Busquets not good for fantasy. Forsberg is same price or downgrade one of the defenders to get Mak/Weiss.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Defence/GK way too heavy, upgrade Busquets to at least Mak, ideally to a 7 or 7.5 because Rafa is not nailed.

  22. UnitedFan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Would the loss of Varane deter any of you from french defence?

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Big time. Any team without their 2 best CB/best partnership will struggle.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      A saving of a mill? Might take the chance.

  23. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I'm back

    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      who are you?

    2. Licky
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I remember you.

  24. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Team more or less sorted, just waiting to see in who is nailed on and who isn't in defence. Friendlies should let us know more. If Denayer is looking dodgy I might punt on Fonte/ Cedric if they can get a place. Otherwise that Turkish guy for 4.5m

    DDG*/ Sommer
    Mangala*/ Dragovic/ Djourou/ Vrsaljko*/ Denayer*
    Hazard/ Ozil/ Alaba/ Mak/ Kombarov
    Ronaldo/ Giroud*/ Shaqiri

    * to be watched

    1. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Bowstring, I have joined Team Austria!

      Eminently winnable group (although Frog has messed up the fixtures)

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Awesome! 🙂 can't wait

  25. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I'm going to miss LVG

    1. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Me too. Mourinho is a broken record

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        He really is a hateful sod, his Ego needs Man Utd. Not sure that the majority of fans want him anywhere near the club

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          And Guardiola is just a little ray of sunshine haha there is no one in the management game with a more inflated opinion of themselves than Pep.. the guy is a serious douchebag quite frankly but very successful so far..

          1. Syd.
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            It's Mourhinos tantrums and blaming everyone but himself is what I can't stand. Pep is maybe a bit over inflated but at least he does it gracefully unlike Mourhino

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Should be a good old battle 🙂

          2. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            +1 Pep is a tw@

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Of massive proportions but goes unnoticed as he doesn't manage United.. no one is really interested in talking about him or City.. Mourinho has a personality at least only have to see the majority of his press conferences..

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Everton should try convince him. Finding out that you're losing a job to a manager you made an hour after winning a trophy your club hasn't won in yonks is classless.

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        United are no different from Chelsea or City now. 🙂

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          "Not a sacking club"

        2. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Sure they are.

          1. Shirokov(c)
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            In terms of their managerial merrygoround, no.

            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Yes. Top 4 was a contractual minimum that both Moyes and LVG failed to deliver on, the latter having spent a quarter of a billion pounds and still complaining he didn't have what he needed.

      2. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Hi berbs you ok mate?

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yes mate. Just waiting for the Euros now to kill some time. You?

          1. KingNidge
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Top of the pops mate thanks 🙂

            1. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Top stuff. Wouldn't want it any different

  26. Shirokov(c)
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Hold the door.

    1. BB-8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      ðŸ™

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        ðŸ™

  27. UnitedFan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    If Varane is out, is it better to look to the defences of others or can they still kepp Albania and Romania out? Currently don't fancy the French defence if he is out, so how do these transfers look?

    1. Sagna > Schar + 0.5
    2. Sommer + the 0.5 > DDG/Casillas

    Means I will gain Spanish defence.

    1. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Schär good attacking threat so looks decent. I think many will go ahead and save 1mil with Mangala if Varane doesn't make it.

    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      They look very good to me. Schär is a good attacking threat, playing for a well organised team that has been together for years, got good experience in the last World Cup, and will play Albania and Romania first.

      There's always a chance of keeping Romania at bay, I don't think they have much attack. Albania is a bit more complicated, but still, hard to see them scoring much. However, look at the French central defenders now:

      Koscielny/Rami, Mangala/Mathieu. There's by the way every chance that the starter is Mathieu and not Mangala. But whoever it is, that is extremely unconvincing as names (except Kosc), it is extremely convincing by its selection history (little experience, and almost only bad), and imagine if Koscielny can't make it to one match. I would not touch that defence. Switzerland has much better chances to keep CS than France.

  28. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Just watching Sky Sports news

    According to some Celtic fans Brendan Rogers is the new messiah 😯

    1. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      He probably went there to win the league title then laugh at Liverpool and show them what they're missing

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      One of the few people I actually hate. Not as a manager, but as a man.

      Some of the things he said behind closed doors last season were vile and unacceptable.

      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Elaborate?

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Homophobic comments, racial slurs

          1. Licky
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Really!? I despised him already, but wow.

      2. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        How do you know if behind closed doors ?

        1. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Maybe he was on the same side of those doors?

  29. BB-8
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    In the Euro game can we make captain changes everyday or is it just a one time thing?

      1. BB-8
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Nothing about captaincy here. Cheers anyway.

          1. BB-8
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Cheers mate, read the hot topic. Much clearer than the official site rules

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Good man will get a look at that.. thanks