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Sunday Dugout Discussion

27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. Akers
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    Still dumbstruck...

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      shocking news

      great guy

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  2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    just heard about gary speed

    only saw him on footie focus yesterday

    RIP

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      oh my god, now i've found out he may have killed himself?!

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    2. Akers
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      Wasn't he commentating on the West Ham game yesterday?

      Just can't get my head around it. I can't even fathom what it must be like to suffer from depression.

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        take it from me

        i wish it upon nobody

        it has affected me for years, i was just reading about stan collymore yesterday and his plight and i was gobsmacked

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      2. applebonkers
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        serious? that's mad, kind of makes it worse that he could hide it that well

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          that's usually the way, sadly

          like a coping mechanism, you do all you can to hide it

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          1. Drip Doctor
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            The timing is shocking, considering they were talking about depression in football yesterday on Talksport.

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  3. Manilaman
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    RIP Speedy, such a sad loss x

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  4. Bubbles
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    Bloody hell, only just heard the Gary Speed news. Absolutely shocked!

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  5. Scratch
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Jesus, just heard about Gary Speed.

    Totally shocked. I only started following football in '93. And as a Leeds fan he was my first ever favourite player.

    Great player and proper pro

    RIP

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  6. Anorak
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    Nice words.

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  7. 4vets
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    A crying shame. RIP.

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  8. gruffyboy
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Never the flashiest of players - but one of those that when my team played his, he was one of the few I'd always wish was on my team's side instead.

    RIP Gary Speed

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  9. whoracle
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Guys, sorry for interrupt, but I need some piece of advice. Little RMT, would ya?

    Vorm, Ruddy - Simpson, Naylor, Brown, A. Ferdinand, Enrique - Nani, Lampard, Silva, Bale, Moses - Gabby, RVP, Ba.

    2 freebies, so should I go for: A. Ferd -> Jones; Fat Frank -> Mata?

    Help me with this one.

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  10. DV8R
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Predictions for Swansea vs Aston Villa? I'm going for a 2-1 Swansea win

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    1. Akers
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      Score draw.

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    2. Smarty Pants
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      doubt they'll be able to win this one after this news

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        i dunno

        maybe the swans will want the win even more now, as a bit of a tribute

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    3. McDog
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      I hope 0-0 but more likely 2-1 Swansea

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    4. Manani
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      2-0 hopefully

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    5. applebonkers
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      an eery atmosphere 1-0. similar to man utd v everton after busby died

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  11. kooni01
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone have any idea as to when the next stage of the Suarez case will take place?

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  12. Samwise the Brave
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Come on the Nathan Dyer, Need him to outscore mata (ie miracle)

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    1. unoaime
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      I have him coming on for vDV. I very much doubt Dyer will do anything.

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      1. Samwise the Brave
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        I have VDV,Drentre,Jones all out so Dyer,R.Taylor,Enrique in, Dyer is my only differential now, VDV and Drentre were both differentials

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  13. Royal5
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Rumors that Collins will not play..

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  14. RoyaleBlue
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    On my watchlist Adebayor Larsson L.young who do i get

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    1. Samwise the Brave
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      Ade

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  15. LT10
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    As a Swansea fan, I really can't believe this game is going ahead.

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      JUst spoken to a few swans fans and they don't want it to go ahead.

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  16. Smarty Pants
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Since we are on the fantasy football site, I'd like to say that I had Gary Speed in my team in the first gameweek of my first fantasy season. He made an assist that week...
    A great player, a great manager, can't believe the news 🙁

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      what year was that?! can't believe you can even remember it!

      gary played for leeds in the first liverpool match i ever went to see back in the early 90s

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      1. big oak
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        it was his bolton days, where he continued te 2nd half of the season in the championship with sheffield
        had him and scored a penalty for me, he was on 5.5 if i remember well and on pens

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      2. Smarty Pants
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        that was 2006/2007 season, I don't remember all my team, but I remember that I had a combo of Speed and KDavies because a goal by KDavies assisted by Speed were my first points ever, I got so excted and fell in love with this game...

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  17. RoyaleBlue
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    RIP speed

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  18. Horizontal
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    As a Leeds supporter and a lifelong fan of Gary Speed then I'm devastated.
    Tragic doesn't sum up the situation at all. It's worse than that.

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  19. Tangerine Army XI
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Oh my God, so sad to hear about Gary Speed.

    Met him a few years ago. Really nice guy and had a lot of time for others.

    R.I.P 🙁

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  20. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    The more i watch Sky Sports ahead of this game, the more i think it should have been cancelled, we are talking about the Welsh National manager after all.

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      So many players who were close to him now have to try and play an hour after finding out. It isn't fair on them.

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      1. AIRMILES
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, agreed, they'll be shellshocked.

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    2. Somalion
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      I reckon if there had been more time it would have been.

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      1. applebonkers
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        +1
        i'm sure those who travelled and every one concerned would understand if it was off though

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        1. Somalion
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          Ye I think they would have understood it, stuff like this makes a football match trivial.

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    3. AIRMILES
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      Really sad news. Wonder if this will affect the Swansea players.

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Even those who think they want to play could be seriously affected for a long time after this. The huge emotion in this game could cause major problems.
        Also, is there any way this match can now be reffed properly..?

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      2. MCH
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Of course it will especially the players who knew him. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few last minute changes. I know I wouldn't be able to give it my all if I was one of the players who had played for him.

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        1. Royal5
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          +1

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    4. GREENDREAMS11
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      I totally agree, he will have been as much a friend to them as a manager, I cant imagine how some of the players will feel having to play a game in the knowledge of what has happened. In all fairness to all concerned it should have been called off. Every fan would have understood.

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      1. MCH
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        Seems more than likely that we won't see Bellamy later he must have known him well after all their time playing together and then being with Wales together.

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  21. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    they reckon there are people in the stadium who don't even know the news yet?!

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    1. Somalion
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      Well if people were travelling and maybe didn't have the radio on or something like that then it is quite possible. It's relatively recent news so a lot of people could have been in there cars with a CD on a couple of hours ago.

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    2. MCH
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      Possibly a few earlier unlikely to be any now.

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      They know now. The crowd was chating 'there is only Gary Speed'

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  22. shiffo
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    Do we have an update on Jones' absence yesterday? VDV's injury? Thx

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  23. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Come on you swans I need a cleanie to give me a chance of staying in the cup. 11 points behind rival he has no more players, I have Vorm Dyer and Aguero he also has little pea who looks destined for 3bps so in theory 14 behind do I have a chance guys or is it all over for me?

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    1. MCH
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      I hope you have a chance as I have Rangel and Vorm but it seems a lot less important now.

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        +100000

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    2. McDog
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      Hope for a Swansea clean sheet and a big game form Aguero. You're in with a chance still.

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  24. super zlatan
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Rip Gary speed. Great professional. Will be missed

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  25. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    Watching this on Sky player, it just does not feel right that a game is going to be played now.

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  26. Anti-Ipswich
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    I'll be honest, I don't care much about the game after what's happened this morning

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    1. MCH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Yesterday this was a massive FPL game for me with Vorm, Rangel & Sinclair and my rival playing Given ahead of Vorm and for some reason putting Bent (c) while having RVP but now it just seems a lot less important.

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    2. gruffyboy
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      +1

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    3. Nice1Cyrille
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      This will definitely affect players from all games today, but particularly the one at the liberty stadium.

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  27. Anti-Ipswich
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    Both teams have black armbands and a minute's silence will be held

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  28. denial
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    Shockingly sad news to hear of Gary Speed's death, even more so if it's true that he committed suicide.

    I really hope this comes across in the spirit it's meant, but if anyone reading this does suffer from feelings of depression, please don't feel like you are alone with it. There are people you can talk to ( I work as a counsellor/therapist and it's clear to me that it can help people when they share stuff going on for them).

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      well said

      it's a terrible affliction

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  29. pauld74
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    R I P Gary Speed

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  30. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    Just tuned in ready for the games today and in total shock to the news

    Suicide as well. Unbelievable

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