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Sunday Dugout Discussion

27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. Royal5
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    Wonder how the celebrations will be after goals in this game...

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  2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    chants of 'there's only one gary speed'

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    1. MCH
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      Great to hear. Be nice if they keep it up all game.

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    2. Holy See
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      It's all very unreal.

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  3. GreenWindmill
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    Such awful news, can't quite believe it. 🙁

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  4. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    Shay Given is struggling. This should not be going ahead. Watched all that with a tear in my eye. Cant imagine how Allen, Williams et al are feeling.

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    1. MCH
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      Given probably knew him as well as any of them. I don't think I could do it if I was him.

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  5. big oak
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    its not fair for this game to go along. some respect should be shown for the players feelings, if they knew yesterday then its fine, but noway they will be able to play normally now, especially the swans.

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  6. Dale Cooper
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    Can't believe it. I saw him on Football Focus just yesterday. He was smiling and in great condition and now this shocking news.

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  7. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    shay given crying on the pitch, must be horrendous for them

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    1. MCH
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      Absolutely especially for players like him who would have known him so well.

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  8. In Like Flynn.
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    Everyone watching channel 5 ? 😉

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      errol!

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Halcyon days.

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  9. A2U
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    The fixture really should be called off, at least as a mark of respect. RIP Gary Speed

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      what better way to pay your respects than go out there and give it your all for 90 minutes though

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        +1

        You make the game a tribute to Speed. Like that player the other week who played a couple of days after his son died - it's cathartic.

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      2. A2U
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        Very well put, I just think that with the close relationships held between him and many of the player playing today, a day or two to recover may well have been more suiting, the emotions they're experiencing must be quite shocking

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  10. Test Eagles
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    Any news on what happened??

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      hanged himself apparently

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      1. Somalion
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        Yep that's what I've heard too.

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    2. MCH
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      Hung himself apparently. He was on Football Focus yesterday and Robbie Savage said he was talking to him yesterday on the phone and he was in good form. So sad.

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  11. Drip Doctor
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    Lovely tweet from Xabi Alonso: "RIP Gary Speed. My first PL game game was against him, he showed me in that game what is british football about."

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    1. gruffyboy
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      Both complete class acts

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  12. Disco Pat
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    RIP Gary Speed

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  13. Test Eagles
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    Oh boy, just read the news release... horrible stuff!

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  14. Manani
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    was there a one minute silence b4 the match?

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    1. RogerC
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      Yes, there was.

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Started as a silence, then the crowd spontaneously started applauding and singing 'There's only one Gary Speed'. Very moving.

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      one minute applause and chanting!

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  15. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    RIP Gary Speed

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  16. Mílanista
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    Shocking news, my hopes of going to first in my league today don't seem so important now.

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  17. skooldaze
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    Can't quite believe it. It was a proper "What!?" said out loud when I read it on BBC news. Can't pretend I knew what he must have been going through to have committed suicide but from the reports it seems like it was a shock to his friends and family potentially.

    A true legend in the premier league and a good guy by the sounds of it.

    RIP Gary Speed!

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      same here, i just turned my pc on and have bbc news as my homepage and had to read the headline a few times before i could take it in

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    2. jimnastics
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      I can't believe what I'm reading, committed suicide??? So sad 🙁 Have there been any rumours recently about problems in his private life?

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  18. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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    Rumours that Bellamy has been removed from the Liv squad.

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    1. CFCTom
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      Never been his biggest fan but I do feel extremely sorry for anybody close to Gary Speed. Just heartbreaking. If there is such a thing, I hope he rests in peace.

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      1. CFCTom
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        *Never been Bellamy's biggest fan- I did like Gary Speed.

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      well as a red, i'm disappointed by that, but understand

      where'd you hear it?

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      1. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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        Just circulating on twitter, i know its not the most reliable but it does seem to have originated from credible sources.

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  19. Says
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    Hard to care much about FF today.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      i know

      even sinclair's yellow didn't bother me, and i need the point!

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    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      +1

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  20. Rowley Birkin
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    Sinclair yellow already

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  21. Holy See
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    Woeful challenge by Hutton, seen reds for less.

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  22. Gaz Downright
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    unbelievable

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  23. Freshy
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    Villa, what a bunch of choppers

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  24. Says
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    The news hasn't affected Hutton's game.

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  25. CFCTom
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    Another horror tackle from Hutton.

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  26. Royal5
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    Awful tackle by Hutton!

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      How long before mcleish says 'ok then, he IS that type of player'

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      1. Royal5
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        🙂

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      2. CFCTom
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        He's said it himself, everyone knows anyway. He confuses being hard and being aggressive with being angry and dangerous.

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    2. CRAZY TRAIN
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      A horrible player, why McLeish bought him beats me. A liability if ever there was, doesn't belong in the EPL

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    3. AP
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      Proper ankle breaker. Urgh.

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        you looking forward to supporting liverpool later?

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        1. AP
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          I want them both to lose. Liverpool to win 8-0, then to get deducted 6 points just for being scouse.

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          1. CFCTom
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            Haha.

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          2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            just admit it, you'll be singing you'll never walk alone like your life depends on it

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            1. AP
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              No deal.

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              1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                walk on, with hope in your heart

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                1. AP
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                  ... and you'll neeeever, get, a job. 😉

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                  1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                    gizza job!

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  27. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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    Rangel going off perhaps

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    1. CFCTom
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      He ran off the pitch, so he doesn't seem too bad.

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    2. Royal5
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      Twisted his ankle..

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  28. DV8R
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    Rangel down

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      big blow for Swansea. Very good player (as a cardiff fan that takes a lot to say)

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  29. ktk_interista
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    any change rvp will get any bps? he has many shots on goal and was unlucky not to score

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    1. CFCTom
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      Possibly one.

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    2. ktk_interista
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      chance*

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  30. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    Rangel coming off. Injured

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      coming off huttoned

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        rangel mangled

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