Dugout Discussion

Sunday Dugout Discussion

27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. @ImpressiveTackl
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Hmmmmmmm.

    Have exactly enough to do:
    VDV > Bale
    Bendtner > Adebayor

    Worth it?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Almost identical to my moves - so yes, imo! 😀

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Definitely get rid of bendtner

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    3. mikess
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I done Nani & Bendtner out for those two. have VDV too. Cost me -4 but crap week means I've took the risk

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    4. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      As a VdV + Bale owner, I'd say no.

      Looking at past fixtures, VdV gets the goals and points when he's played, although during last few weeks since his hammy has gone he has suffered and Adebayor benefited.

      My prediction > VdV will be scoring the goals once he's back and Adebayor will lose out.

      Bale, worth keeping for the assists and occasional goal.

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  2. EGIAL10
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    was on 16 points after yesterday and now after today i'm on 40 with riise coming on + BP, pretty lucky i must say!

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  3. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Away dressing room door has been damaged. An incident involving Balotelli.

    Never a dull moment.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      he better chill the f*ck out

      i won't have people like him breaking my stadium!

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  4. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Im thinking Walters > Bale this week.

    Thumbs up or down?

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    1. chicrah
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Up

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Up. 🙂

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      1. RoyaleBlue
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Down

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    3. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      DOWN*

      Walters is great value. Who else is in your midfield?

      *as long as that arrow is being used as a "to" not greater than.

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  5. BONZ
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Mario Ballottelli gone nuts in dressing room and then kicked the changing room door in.....the bloke is nutz

    Mancini's management of him certainly don't help him - made him look an even bigger cwnt.

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ban him 😀

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    2. brianyboy 42
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He's a time bomb, it was just a matter of time. He's totally nuts......never in my FF Team

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    3. BONZ
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Mancini NOW sticking up for him on Sky...reckons he should not av been sent off and he didnt say nothing to him on side of pitch???

      Is Mancini a fibber? Tevez says so!

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  6. chicrah
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    My paddy cup match will come all the way down to the bonus points..

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1170563/event-history/13/

    vs

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/9306/event-history/13/

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    1. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Silva on bench vs Kompany on bench...

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      1. chicrah
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        If only I captained Larsson.. I made a last minute switch to Bendy..

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    2. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Wow that is really really too close 2 call

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  7. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    44 points with possible BPs from Bale, Adebayor and Silva to come.... Decent I guess, although I did take a 12 point hit. 8)

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      So 32 then lol.

      Anything approaching nett 50 I think its a very good week and surely above average.

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        i should get over 50 points after baps

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    2. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      12 pointer!

      I'm on 43 with Ade and Silva. Only a 4 pointer. Lining up an 8 next week.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Snap. Not Adebayor or Silva, though ... 🙂

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    3. fatherted
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Silva baps????

      Were we watching diff games?

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      1. chicrah
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Silva was anonymous..

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        1. Royal5
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Lol. Did you watch the game?

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        2. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          You watched a different game to me. He was awesome for most of the match, but faded towards the end.

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      2. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        He got an assist, that could easily be enough.

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          how many hits have you taken now this season?!

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        2. fatherted
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          He also hit 2 shots into row z

          Dont get me wrong I have Silva but cant see it(hope I am wrong)

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    4. Dale Cooper
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I've got 46 with saving transfer - got 2 FT to rebuild before next GW.

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      1. alsybach
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I am on about 62 after bonus points despite captaining van persie.........waste of time that bloke is!

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      2. alsybach
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        nice grav by the way!! are you a fan???

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    5. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Despite RVP (c), 57 points with at least 6 bonus to come. Somehow managed to have a great week.

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  8. mclaren
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on my team for next week?

    Vorm
    Richards Taylor Jones Taylor R (Wilkinson)
    Larsson Silva VDV (Mikel, Buzsáky)
    Adebayor Van Persie Ba

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    1. mclaren
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Sorry -

      Richards Enrique Jones Taylor R (Wilkinson)
      Larsson Silva VDV (Mikel, Buzsáky)
      Adebayor Van Persie Ba

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      1. mikess
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        mikel or buzsaky out. you must have a low budget. any spare money?

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  9. Portsmouth Bubblejet
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Blimey. Mainz 05 are leading Bayern Munich 3-2 in a real humdinger. Catch the last ten minutes if you can.

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    1. Portsmouth Bubblejet
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      And Mainz have held on for a famous victory which sends Bayern down to third in the Bundesliga behind Dortmund and erm ... Borussia Mönchengladbach. Strange game - Daniel van Buyten scored both goals for Bayern and missed two late chances for an unlikely hat-trick.

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  10. Cyril Figgis
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Am I mad to consider Aguero>Ba for a hit? Good chance Aguero won't play against Norwich, after which his fixtures get harder, and Ba seems fixture proof with his price rising tonight.

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    1. chicrah
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Go for it..

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Crazy, with Ba playing Chelsea and Aguero should still start against Norwich. Wait untill next week and do it for free.

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      1. Cyril Figgis
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I know your right but I'm still really tempted.. The thought of transfering out a rotation risk for someone who's nailed on would make this game alot more relaxing.

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      2. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        The Chelsea defense is not solid and Ba can score against anybody. He is also on pens and on top form.

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        1. McDog
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Even so you'd still prefer him than Aguero against Norwich for -4? And Chelsea have kept 2 clean sheets in their last 3. I have Ba myself he's a great pick but I wouldn't get him at the expense of Aguero.

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          1. Royal5
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Agree.

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    3. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure about your logic. Aguero will almost certainly play against Norwich - and probably start. He's often been touted for a rest but normally starts and gets his rests with 15-20 mins to go.

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      1. Cyril Figgis
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Ok thanks, this is what I was hoping to hear. Ill stick with Aguero for another week.

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      2. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        am planning Aguero out after Norwich. have 2 frees this week, but makes more sense do Aguero-Ba after Aguero plays Norwich and before Ba does, and still take no hit.

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  11. VarunK
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I removed VDV and Ramsey for Bale And walcott.

    Anyone think this was not a bad move?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'd have kept VDV

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      1. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        +1

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        1. VarunK
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I wanted to, but that meant I had to remove Hernandez or Silva other than VDV to make these two moves possible.

          So VDV had to go.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Good move, imo.

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  12. XVIVX
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    hello,

    so i this is my current team

    vorm, krul
    kompany, brown, wilkinson, n taylor, simpson
    vdv, silva, ramsey, b johnson, ferguson
    rvp, aguero, ade

    3.2 left in the bank

    what should i do? i could upgrade ramsey to bale and still have money left (but 3 tott players), i should upgrade ferguson but that isn't my biggest worry, or i could upgrade my defense. so what do you think?

    cheers

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      you're better off upgrading ferguson to larrson/drenthe/walters/similar

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      1. XVIVX
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        who should i get? i have 7.2 in the bank if i upgrade ferguson.

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        1. tangtastic
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          i have drenthe.. but if i could swap for free.. larsson seems like a solid pick. form+fixtures

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        2. RoyaleBlue
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Drenthe/Walters/Larsson

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      With Xmas rotation and potential for games to be called off Ferguson should be your biggest worry. Could get Ben Arfa for him which would leave 1.8 in bank. Don't think 3 Spurs attacking players is a good idea.

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  13. Le Bluff
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    My PP Cup:

    Me: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/722679/event-history/13/

    Opponent: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/565753/event-history/13/

    I'm 3 points ahead after automatic substitutions. So barring any massive baps on his behalf, I should be okay 🙂

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Well done

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  14. Smarty Pants
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    how many baps do you reckon Nani, Bale, and Raylor will get?
    cheers

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0+1/2+0

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  15. Somalion
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Mancini post interview seems to actually be quite alright with Balotelli, not angry with him and said that he's just a young player who was very disappointed with the red card. Sounds like he could be on for Norwich so!

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      does he not serve a 2 game ban now??? hasn't he already had a red this season?

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        no, just checked

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Ha grand, I wasn't sure if he had been or not and it did seem likely 😛

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    2. Dr Bronner
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      yep looks as though he'll be playing against Norwich. Annoying.

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I can live with it!

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  16. Dale Cooper
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    BP predictions?

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Kompany 3 Skrtel 2 Silva 1

      Williams 3 Albrighton 2 Gower 1

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Shit, mean't Agbonlahor not Albrighton

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    2. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Kompany-3 Adam-2 Downing-1

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Albrighton???? Demi what??

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    3. Dale Cooper
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I think Hart may get a BP. His saves kept City in the game.

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  17. Kgriffsnake
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Shawcross > Jag for long term?

    Rest of defence: Brown, Enrique, BAE and R Taylor.

    I have Krul/Vorm in goal so I didn't think Simpson would be a good move.

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  18. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Who would you prefer to have this week, Baines or Ba?

    I'm going to either do

    P.Jones to Baines or Bendtner to Ba.

    Can do the other one the week after taking a hit to get rid of Given for someone cheaper. Have 0.0m leftover when I do either transfer this week so have to take a hit on the goalie next week.

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      i think you're good as you are. give bendtner 2 more gw. he could return big in at least one of those weeks.. i know how frustrating he is.. i have him too.

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bendnter to Ba. Easy.

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    3. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      You should do both with a hit!

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      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Can't afford to do both without doing a third transfer for an 8 pointer.

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  19. 7thHeaven
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    am actually considering charlie adam at the moment. he seems to be consistent with his 5 point returns.

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  20. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    How many BPs do you fancy from
    Vermaelen
    Naylor
    Silva
    ??

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    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0 for verminator
      0 for Naylor
      2 for Silva

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        2+1+1(probably)

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    2. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I predict about 4-5 between them.

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  21. brianyboy 42
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Manager of the month must go to Mancini just for the way he dealt with Balotelli today. A lesson to other premiership managers on how to deal with prima donnas!!

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Redknapp or Wenger or Pardew Id say

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  22. Ismail
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    lucas,what a brillant player,even out muscling yaya toure and almost every tackle was made by him

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  23. Andy1
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    6.7m for a replacement for graham. Any suggestions? Currently thinking of Ba?

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    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ba 100%

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ba definitely.

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    3. Sleep Talk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Do it. Even with Chelsea first at home Newcastle now have a pretty decent run of fixtures.

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    4. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yak

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    5. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Do it soon then. He's going up in price.

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  24. FPL Touches
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Decisions, Decisions..... (for next week)
    Sensing a hard-ass decision come next Fri, any help would be AWESOME. I currenty have 1.1 in bank and 1 FT
    I could...A) Sell Nani for Bale (Have VDV & Ade. Nani only Utd coverage)

    B) Sell Agbon buy Ba and leave it at that. (note that most people will do this anyway)

    Or go for the Jugular... C) Sell Nani buy Walcott, Sell VDV buy Bale, Sell Agbon + buy Hernandez. (Phew!)

    Feel free to suggest any other options. Alternatively I could do nothing. However, this option appears shit.
    THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      B..chelsea defence is useless and most of them will play midweek

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  25. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Why was Kompany not sent off?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Because he's massive.

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  26. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Average GW score prediction? Mid to late 30s?

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      33-37

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      32

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    3. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      31

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      1. Laserface
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        32

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  27. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    56 with bps lined up for Ade,Sturridge, Kompany and probably Silva and Warnock

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    1. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      56 as well (after substitutions) bonus from ade and mata to come. Well chuffed.

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  28. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Won't even get 50 after baps ðŸ™

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  29. Mr Smith
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Worth doing:

    Aguero & Wilkinson -> Ade & Baines

    ?

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    1. 7thHeaven
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      would keep aguero for norwich, not to keen on baines myself atm. everton don't really put in much goals and clean sheets are hard to come by.

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      1. Mr Smith
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Don't think Aguero will be rested against Norwich?

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    2. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      10000000000% YES!!!!!!!!

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  30. VarunK
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Should I keep Graham?

    Yes or No?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on what you are trying to achieve this season.

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    2. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      NO!

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      1. VarunK
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Is he injured or no?

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          No, he just plays for a sh*t team.

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          1. VarunK
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Should I keep atleast against blackburn and avoid a 4 point hit?

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      looked a bad injury, he was on crutches after the game

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