Dugout Discussion
27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. andres
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ia m consdiering the following suarez and de leat out to:

    1 ba and walker
    2 ba and vermaelen

    Help;)

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    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ba and Verm looks good, or Ba and Jags.

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    2. Jordan
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ba and Walker I would say because Walker can get assists by crossing them in from the wing. 🙂

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    3. mehedi2173
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      i think ba and walker will be perfect..spurs have double game week in GW 20

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  2. onionbarje
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    if bonus points go my way i could be looking at the 50s if you forget the minus 4.

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Take it as forgotten... doubt fpl will though 😉

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  3. Retro
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I can't see Aguero not playing against Norwich, because Mancini has locked himself into a weekend and a midweek team. If Aguero is tired/out of form there's no point playing him in the Carling Cup so soon. Therefore he has to play next weekend, or else he ends up being dropped/rested for at least 10 days before the Munich game. And if he's so out of form he'd be dropped for that too, and then you have your star player out for two weeks. I think he plays and scores against Norwich.

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      dzeko and johnson + 1 in the carling cup is my guess. hopefully the 1 is someone like milner/nasri

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      1. Tommytour
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Nasri was brought off around 60 min mark today so fingers crossed!

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  4. div
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Whats the thoughts on getting rid of Augero, maybe for Hernandez or Ba.

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      ba can wait a week. if aguero doesn't play in midweek i'd rather have him for 70mins home to norwich than hernandez for 90mins at aston villa

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  5. Moves Like Agger
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sorry for the repost, it was lost on the last page :-/

    If money was no object what midfielder and striker would you buy? (Excluding Silva and RVP)

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Moses

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Hernandez and VDV.

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      1. Moves Like Agger
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Am I just terribly misinformed? I thought he was injured???

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    3. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Hernandez/Ade and VdV

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    4. div
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      VDV

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  6. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ranking updated.

    Down from 26k to 44k, with 31 I'll happily take that.

    How has everyone else done in this rotation ruined gameweek.

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    1. VarunK
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      From 21k to 42k with just 33 points.

      I think you and me are scarily close my friend.

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        The gap between us is probably like 3/4 points.

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        1. VarunK
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          You're on 708 points. I'm on 709 :O

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          1. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            One good GW will propel us into the top 20k again.

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      192k to 172k.... slowly getting there.

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    3. Declan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Up from 284k to 148k, still 16 BAPs to come, a bit more respectability, finally going the right way!

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Is that over 80 points.

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        1. Declan
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          67 plus 16 BAP's! Ade, Hernandez(C), Mata, Silva, Kompany

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          1. DarPaC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            How do you get 16 from those?

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            1. Declan
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              3, 6, 3, 1, 3

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bejayus! A green arrow (most unexpected) up to mid 60k. Hope the bonii don't ruin my 9th green one in a row...

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    5. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Gone down from 94k to 96k with 40, which isn't bad after scoring 11 yesterday.

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      1. Bumbaclot
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        im up to 109k so not doing too bad!

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    6. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Up from 49k to 31k. 56 (-4) with between 6-8 bonus to come. Happy.

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    7. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Up 120k, but from where I was coming, it wasnt hard....

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    8. Stevomill
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      down from 450k to 560k, terrible week

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    9. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Up from 23k to 16k. Hopefully atleast 6 bps tomorrow (Kompany & Adebayor)

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Well done Demi... it seems I have to wait until next week to make some ground 😉

        Did I really do Komps > Baines?

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        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          You did i'm afraid 4vets. Did i really bench Vorm @ Home and bring in de gea

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Touche!

            It's been a funny old week. Can't win them all, I guess. On to the next where I expect De Gae & Baines to perform! 🙂

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            1. Demí
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              +42 😉

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          2. JK - Cønt â­
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            I benched Vorm at home for Westwood. :o:

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      2. Towser44
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Up to 622 after a terrible Saturday, redemption today!

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Oooh.. I'm jealous. All the best for next week 🙂

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    10. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Down from 51k to 64k...after 8 green arrows. It will get worse as I won't get any baps

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    11. Wuffs
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      95K...happy enough, considering some of the duffers i have in my team.

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  7. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Bale... Number 1 player to bring in if you don't own him? I'm thinking he is.

    Although can't understand why some are shipping Sturridge out. I think he's also one of the best players to have until Winter WC time

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I think he will return to scoring 2's and 3's. VDV is still the main man in that team.

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      1. Screaming Midget
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Well if I bring Bale in, I'll have both. I do think having both is a decent shout.

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    2. Menly
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'm hearing you. My personal position is i can either have Bale or Adebayor... (as i already have VDV and Walker).
      So should i get Bale or Ade basically?

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      1. Jukesy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Who would they be replacing?

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        1. Menly
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Bale in for Sess/Sinclair/Eagles
          Adebayor in for Sturridge/Helguson (want to get Ba aswell)

          What do you reckon?

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          1. Jukesy
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Bale easy then. Not a big fan of any of those 3 midfielders, whilst Sturridge/Helguson/Ba all have potential

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            1. Menly
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              Just have a bad feeling that Ade will continue to score and Bale may return to the 2's...

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              1. Jukesy
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 1 month ago

                It's possibly, but you'd expect Sturridge and Ba to return a few goals anyway.

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                1. Menly
                  • 14 Years
                  14 years, 1 month ago

                  I just dont know about Sturridge. I had him for a while and he did nothing. Then i was SO ready to get rid, and he scores in two consecutive games...
                  How much will he be able to do against new/MCI/wig/tot/FUL/AVL

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          2. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            I'd get rid of Eagles.

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            1. Menly
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              Ye reckon? He's been quite an explosive cheapie to have, and Sess however has done sweet F all

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              1. Mull
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 1 month ago

                I watched Sess yesterday for the full 90 and he is definitely worth keeping especially when he was on the wings.
                When he was brought central in the last 10 minutes his influence started to fade.
                Very unlucky not to do anything yesterday.

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      2. DarPaC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        VDV and Ade would appear to cover both bases. If one doesn't score the other will

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        1. Menly
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Unless Bale and Lennon steal it all... ðŸ™

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          1. DarPaC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Ha ha, I hear you. IMO only team worth tripling up on is Man City......even after today's result.

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    3. Waldaz
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Words cannot describe how I hate him as a fantasy player.

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    4. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Is it too much spurs coverage having all three??

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  8. Bumbaclot
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    i finished with 42 (obviously without bonus) and im staring at my first red arrow for at least 6/7 weeks!

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    1. Bumbaclot
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      scratch that my mistake... another green arrow lol

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  9. Spaghetti Hoes
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Begovic Ruddy
    Kompany Enrique Wilko Raylor Brown
    Silva VDV Walters Allen Drenthe
    RVP Aguero Bendy

    2 Free Transfers:
    Thinking Begovic & Aguero -> De Gea & Hernandez

    Thoughts?

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    1. SlightHawk
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Begovic to Vorm, not de gea

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  10. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Bah, gutted for Tsonga, so close.

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  11. DarPaC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    41 points. Suarez to Sturridge was a good move. Sounds like a low scoring week all round?

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  12. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Used wildcard last week and one of my transfers was kompany to richards:(.. now worried about the rotation risk richards carries and the pure certainty that is kompany:(

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  13. GlasgowFF
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone have any advice on how to improve the below?

    Have one free transfer and still have wildcard

    Given

    Jose Enrique
    Kompany
    Assou-Ekotto

    Dyer
    Van der Vaart
    Ramsey
    Silva

    Sturridge
    Rooney
    Van Persie

    Subs

    Ruddy
    Brown
    Simpson
    Tiote

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    1. Jukesy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Money in bank? Upgrade Tiote/Dyer, and at some point downgrade BAE

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      1. GlasgowFF
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Nada in the bank mate?

        Thinking Rooney - Ade then using the cash to upgrade a mid. Can't afford a points hit though so would need to do it over two weeks.

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe Rooney to Hernandez as you can't justify Rooney's 12m price tag when he is off form.

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      1. GlasgowFF
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Is Hernandez a nailed on starter?

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        1. brianyboy 42
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          MUN/MCI/CHE - Is anyone nailed on anymore? Really very annoying..

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        2. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          If he keeps scoring then yes.

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    3. brianyboy 42
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Nice squad, maybe Ramsey to Ben Arfa but thats just my Gut feel for the next few GW's.

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      1. GlasgowFF
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Rooney is not justifying the price atm so am looking to ship him out.

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  14. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I still can't believe the news about Gary Speed, how old are his kids?

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  15. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    May just have sneaked my FFS cup round. Going to go down to bonus pt though, but quietly confident.

    53 pt pre bonus....he's on 49 pre bonus.

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  16. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Vorm
    Jones Richards Baines Enrique
    Silva Bale Sessegnon
    Rvp(c) Adebayor Sturridge

    Krul Walters Pilkington McAuley
    0.1 in bank

    A)Save transfer
    B) Sturridge to ba
    C) Sessegnon to Ohara
    Ohara and Pilks rotate perfectly till jan wildcard

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    1. NeedleVor
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I've only gone and become just the second player this season to beat Granville in the H2H.....

      Cue plaudits...

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        uhm.. congrats.. :).. now A) b) or C).. not too keen on b) honestly..
        Are wolves gonna continue playin 4-5-1? how long is Doyle out for?

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    2. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      A or C

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  17. ★FC Borecelona★
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Is Dzeko gonna start against Norwich, if not should I get rid of him for Adebayor?

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  18. Lordjim
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else contemplating VdV for Bale. Its a tough one given how prominent VdV is in free kicks, corners and penalties. But, experience shows he does not heal well and bales price is likely to rise......

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Think it could be a very shrewd move. VDV's hammys are so unreliable. Heading into the xmas period, there'll be lots of games in quick succession. Bale's a fit enough player to give 90 in practically each of these games. VDV isn't and also has competition with an in form Defoe. Bale is rotation free.

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      1. Lordjim
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I am loathed to move quickly, but am struggling to see what will influence my decision not to given Bale came through the week unscathed...

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  19. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Average = 37 so far. I imagine once BPs are added it'll be 39 maybe 40.

    I've come out of this having a below par week but not as bad as first imagined... now back to the 60+ route again next week!

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Lol yeah I know what you mean.

      Towards Xmas is keeping in mind players who will play every game... ie Kompany over Richards... Enrique, Baines et al.

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    2. Lordjim
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Wait for the Blank weeks and injuries as winter sets in. getting more than a five aside team is a bonus...you will bounce back....

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  20. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    *Sob* 😥

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    1. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Another red arrow is it Doosra???

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Number two ... ðŸ™

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      How come you get 43pts and a red arrow and I get 44 pts and a green arrow? That can't be right!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I have a four pointer ...

        *sigh*

        ... and another this week - I am a week behind ...

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Chin up... there's always next week! 🙂

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Yep - and I have the forwards I craved. Probably 6 points between them, next week! 🙂

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            1. 4vets
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              That's my defense, that is! 🙂

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      2. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        4 pts hit 4Vets, actual score 39.

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          It's a truly harsh world we live in. Live by the sword... 😉

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        2. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Reply fail/delay!! Those comments weren't there a moment ago 😕

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Thay are still appreciated Gnu. I need all the help I can get!

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  21. andres
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Can decide wether to bring in walker or vermaelen, please help 😉

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    1. Animals & Scandals
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Walker

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    2. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bring in Vermaillen. Happy to help.

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    3. brianyboy 42
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on your finances, but for me Vermaelen by a mile. Walker is good value if you are short of cash.

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    4. andres
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thx,
      I am downgrading suarez to ba and the extra cash is to be used to transfer out de leat and bring in one ofmthose two players.

      I am also more convinced by vermaelen. Hope he doesn't get injured.

      Thanks for the help

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  22. Phaze 1
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Upto 189 but made such a horrible kneejerk yesterday I'm not sure if I really know what I'm doing.

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  23. Animals & Scandals
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    What would you rather have?

    A) Silva/Bale/Walters/N.Dyer
    OR:
    B) Silva/VDV/Eagles/N.Dyer

    Seems like Walters can´t be ignored now?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Im shipping Walters out this week.

      Basically it's Bale/Walters vs VDV/Eagles.

      I'd prefer B

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      1. Animals & Scandals
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Ah, thanks.

        I´ve had bad timing with my third MF spot this season.

        Started out with Sessegnon, changed to Jarvis, then SWP, then M. Petrov, and now Eagles.
        Crappy returns...

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  24. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    62 points with rvp(c) and maybe 8 bonus to come ppc opponent with 45 and maybe 6 bonus to come..im through

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  25. Mr Sarcastic
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    My frontline is Adebayor, Rvp and Ba so it's really difficult to get rooney in for gw15.

    Maybe I go for nani/young instead, not the captaiin material, but I think I'll go with rvp next few weeks anyway...toughts anyone?

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    1. Menly
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Don't you have the best frontline imo

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, I was referring to that when saying hard. Realised that it could be understaded other way too...Bad english, I blame the teacher 😉

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    2. Lordjim
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Probably a blessing in disguise. Rooney has a new role and is playing so deep more akin to a midfielder...

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Hope so, would be nice to have rooney (C) for gw15 tough.
        Now that I've tripled on spurs, I'm just waiting when one of their games will be cancelled!

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  26. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    New post

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  27. manu4life99
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Any suggestions for transfers for next gw given than I have nil in the bank?

    Vorm (krul)
    Richards brown Enrique (evans, simpson)
    Brunt ramsey vdv silva (dyer)
    Ade hernandez rvp

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    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ramsey - Ben Arfa, Evans- Jones

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  28. Pierre Luigi Collina
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Interesting post on sport, have a look 🙂
    http://tonyromo123456.wordpress.com/2011/11/25/is-sport-a-mans-world/

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  29. Senior Agbonlahor
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    bos out for young/walker
    gabby out for who help is needed i have to free transfers ???

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    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bos out for Walker/BAE or Jags

      Gabby out for Ba/Ade

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  30. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    What are the expected bonus pts for SWA v AVL?

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    1. rasher
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      hopefully vorm/sinclair get them

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