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The build up to the new season is the most exciting part of the year for Fantasy Football addicts as we welcome new faces from far off lands to the Premier League to propel our squads to glory.

Then after a few Gameweeks reality kicks in and those fresh faces, who brought so much promise with them through the arrivals lounge, turn out to be flops, leaving our dreams and season in tatters. But are new recruits from abroad really that bad an investment for Fantasy managers?

Let’s take a look at the 2015/16 season for evidence. In this season just 15 of the new signings into the Premier League scored more than 100 points in standard FPL scoring.

Now you might be thinking that actually that’s not all that bad. But let’s also consider some further evidence from last season.

 – Only seven of those players featured among the top 120 FPL points scorers. That’s just 7.5% of new recruits. 

Should we take a risk on these expensive new faces?

Arguably not. A far better group of players to consider is those that have had at least one Premier League season to get used to the English top flight. Last season proved the merits of this tactic with Leicester’s Riyad Mahrez as well as Arsenal’s Hector Bellerin and Christian Eriksen of Tottenham all excelling after building up their Premier League experience the season before. This may not be the sexiest of strategies but it does give you a better chance of starting well.

Another group that is better for investment is those players that have been firmly established in a promoted Championship side.  You are far better off picking from the newly promoted teams, with Watford’s Odion Ighalo and Troy Deeney as well as Bournemouth stalwarts Matt Ritchie and Charlie Daniels all scoring in excess of 120 points in their first Premier League season.

Last year’s rare successes

So, I know you’re only half reading this and you’re really trying to work out who those seven successes from foreign leagues were aren’t you? Let me put you out of your misery:

1.   Andre Ayew – 171 points

1.   Dimitri Payet – 171 points

3.  Georginio Wijnaldum – 170 points

4.  Roberto Firminio – 155 points

5.  Anthony Martial – 141 points

6. Kevin de Bruyne – 131 points

7.  Virgil Van Dijk – 130 points

Last year’s flops

So how about those new signings from abroad that failed to feature amongst 2015/16’s top 120?

Chelsea proved a happy hunting ground for foreign flops, with £17m signing Baba Rahman and Pedro failing to live up to expectations.  Ramiro Funes Mori and Gerard Deulofeu of Everton gave some great performances, but too often succumbed to rotation or injury.

Meanwhile in Manchester, City’s Nicolas Ottamendi may have cost £33m but that didn’t buy him one of 120 seats at FPL’s top table.

Who can forget the disaster that was Memphis Depay at United? Nearly £35m in total was spent by the Red Devils on Depay and Sebastian Schweinsteiger for almost no return whatsoever in terms of FPL points – they actually only just manage 100 points between them. Matteo Darmian proved to be another newbie to blot Manchester United’s copybook.

Other’s include Newcastle’s Florian Thauvin and Aleksandar Mitrovic at Newcastle, while Spur’s new faces Son (who cost an eye watering £22m) and Clinton N’Jie offer two more names for the dustbin of history.  The list is quite long, and we have barely touched the surface.

The simple fact is, that for the first few weeks it is a far less risky strategy to pick players with experience in the Premier League or at least have already got a year of English football in the Championship under their belt.

Conclusion

With the ability in FPL to transfer in players that improve as the season goes on we can afford to be patient with the Premier League’s new recruits to see how they settle at their new clubs. Some may take a whole season to improve, while others, such as Roberto Firmino only need nine Gameweeks to get going, with the bulk of his impressive tally of 155 FPL points coming in the final 29 Gameweeks.

Now, after saying all that I’m thinking of picking Manchester United’s new face Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who has zero minutes of competitive action for an English side under his belt, for my Gameweek 1 squad. What could possibly go wrong?

Notso Athletic Scotsman trapped in an English accent, big fan of #LFC, #FPL, Currently CMO of Matchday Fantasy. 63k overall last year in FPL... lowest season yet, damn those pesky chips! Twitter = @Opinions_Vary

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  1. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Ha, Ibra is in my first draft too....surely he's immune from first English season-itis? Well that's the hope anyway.

    1. Wimmer winner chicken dinne…
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      All my players will be proven premier league players, yes I'm a complete dullard - your Ibra pick is pretty out there 🙂

    2. Sheeeit
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I'd love Ibra but I keep thinking Mkhitaryan is better value. Both newbies, but when their quality is so obvious does it really matter if it's their first season in the prem?

      1. Bunk Moreland
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Ibra has dominated wherever he's been for 10-15 years. He scored in his first 9 matches in La Liga and dominated from the start in Ligue 1.

        How did Mhikitaryan start his seasons at new clubs?

        1. Sheeeit
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          First season at Dortmund he got 9 goals & 10 assists in the league. Decent stats for a first season.

        2. But he's 34 and in a league were play is much quicker/intense than Spain or France

    3. MarkyMarkovic
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      He has a track record of scoring against english sides and keepers regardless of level of comp.
      He's in ma squad!

      1. Notso Athletic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I think he could be the signing of the season (so hard for me to admit as a fully fledged LFC fan), he has the experience and the dynamism of Martial alongside him. But i'm still waiting for GW 2 before I blow the budget on him or Ibra

  2. Carcaju
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Is John Terry nailed?

  3. Carcaju
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Mkhitaryan Silva Mané Feghouli 4.5M

    Good or bad?

    1. Ropey. Mkhi & Feg punty. Feg & Mane tricky fixtures. Silva overshadowed by KDB.

    2. Peterpan500
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I think you want your premium mids to be as close to a lock as possible. 2 of the mids are new to their team (Mikh and Mane) and Mane in particular is in a very crowded midfield. Silva is coming back from chronic ankle issues and is overshadowed by KDB and possibly Sane.

  4. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Wijnaldum scored one less point than Payet 😯

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Payet was injured for a bit, doesn't surprise me

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Wijnaldum was injured for longer ?

        1. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          i was gonna make the same comment but see u already did.. it amazes me even if no one else.. world of class difference and every game wij was scoring 2/3 except a cpl of games where he obviously exploded. knowing how i play i think i will avoid him all season cos ill get annoyed and take him out just b4 he explodes.

          1. YO97
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Wijnaldum played 600 mins more than Payet. that's like 6 matches more

            1. gwitbrock
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              erm closer to 7

  5. Ber2k
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Alderweireld was at Southampton the year before.

    1. Ziro
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      This

    2. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Quite right - I've removed him.

      1. Notso Athletic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Oops sorry! was stat blind clearly

  6. Gadonkadonk
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    RMT please:

    Foster, Jakupovic
    Nsue, Pieters, Gabriel, Souare, WIlliams
    Sanchez, Bolasie, Hazard, Hojbjerg, Fischer
    Kun, Ibra, Gray

    Thanking you

    1. Barragans got the nod over nsue. Sanchez out gw1. Overall I think your pinning too much on those 2 mids which weakens the rest of the team.

      1. Gadonkadonk
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks!

      2. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Any facts behind "Barragans got the nod over Nsue"? - Nope didn't think so
        http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/middlesbrough-fc-news-transfer-rumours-11692808

  7. Bunk Moreland
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    It's well documented that players tend to do better in their second seasons in a new club and league. Just like most people aren't really effective in their new job untill they've been there a year or two.

    Now the question is: who of these 100+ players that were new signings last season, will impress this season?

    1. Bunk Moreland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I think Martial can do really well this year. And perhaps Darmian, if he can nail down the right back spot.

    2. Notso Athletic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      That is the question!
      I think Martial will stand out well, not much competition for his place and no longer the star for teams to focus on. I like Firminio but the first 5 gameweeks are really not kind so he won't feature in my first lineup. Ali is also nailed on for me as a good 2nd year option (I know he isn't foreign but still..)

    3. cfizzle15
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Delofeu

      1. FrankieTheGent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        This

  8. SAY SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    I'm convinced Ibra will not do as well as everyone seems to think he will. Not flop as such, just be underwhelming. The Community Shield is looking like an important match for late squad decisions.

    Great article btw!

  9. oghash
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Kdb is surprising. But if this article is right he could be on fire this season.

  10. Cech yer Konetract
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Would like some expert opinion on my latest team:

    Valdes / Foster
    Stones / Walker / Souare / Pieters / McAuley
    Hazard / Eriksen / Tadic / Gray / Gradel
    Kun (c) / Kane / Carroll

    This is part dependent on Stones going to City and Mahrez going to Arsenal!

  11. porkido
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    It seems like it would be more convincing if we compared the ratio of new players/new +120 to returning players/returning +120. In other words, if new players make up less than 7.5% of all players, wouldn't 7.5% of them doing well mean they are a good bet? That is, assuming all other factors are equal (which they obviously aren't, but then, the article is isolating that as a factor)...

    1. porkido
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Clarification: if new players make up less than 7.5% of all players, doesn't that mean 7.5% representation in the top 120 is a good result?

      1. Notso Athletic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        It's just a way of thinking as yes, I did isolate the one area. But it's an area we all get carried away with every year. The big money signings are far sexier than the ones who consistently do well or are in the their second year. Vardy and Kane are getting far less mentions even though they are proven commodities with teams that will rely on them.

        It is still a good bet to pick the ones that are guaranteed to start, but who are they? Sane / Nolito / Ibra / Batshuyiiwhatsisname are not nailed on GW1 players yet. Bailly because Smalling is injured and maybe Mendy at Leciester .... I'm out of gurantees now

    2. porkido
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      What was initially unclear to me was whether you meant 7.5% of those 120 were new players, or 7.5% of total new players are in that group. After re-reading, I see you must have meant the latter...which means new players under-perform as a group (if we assume ~600 players in the PL). So, basically, nevermind!

      1. Notso Athletic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Sorry, yes that is exacty what I meant. New players generally under perform. So we should be careful and I try to pick only one of them at most for the initial game weeks

  12. Blinkey88
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this lineup...

    Butland (Schmeichel)
    Shaw/Ivanovic/Williams (McAuley/Paredes)
    Ibe/Ozil/KDB/mkhitaryan (Kouyate)
    Gray/Zatlan/Long

  13. Luca Brasi
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Who is Michael Antonio and which foreign league did he play in?!

    1. gwitbrock
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      English guy played at forest, late bloomer, versatile midfielder can and will also be played at right back. Works hard and gets amongst the goals. His favourite colour is blue and he likes long walks in the park. No known diseases. 5'11 brown eyes. Up for friendship maybe more.

    2. gwitbrock
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Also, googling is probably quicker than posting.

      1. Luca Brasi
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        It was a tongue in cheek comment because of the misspelt name and fact he didn't play in a foreign league. I see he's been removed from the list now.

        1. gwitbrock
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Oh I see, sorry that went over my head

  14. Malinwa
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    would be grateful if you could rate my team.

    Foster (Jaku)
    Williams - Van Aanholt - Morgan (Fernandez - McAuley)
    Sigurdsso - Mkhitaryan - Ibe - Mahrez - Fletcher
    Gray - Ibra - Aguero

    Any stand out weakness?

    Tx lads!

    1. Offs!de
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Looks solid, only point to be issued : PVA got his first match against City; better bench him.
      cheers!

      1. Malinwa
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks!

    2. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Pretty good. Maybe downgrade Mkhi or Mahrez>Eriksen
      get heaton and PvA>Terry Sunderland only look good 2nd week. Can play Terry for 4.

    3. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Good

  15. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    TONY MARSHALL.

    1. The_Socca_Philosopha
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      CAME FROM FRANCE

      1. Ryssel
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        AND MAY OR MAY NOT CAPTAIN HIMSELF IN GW1

  16. Thoughtopsy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    RMT please

    Jacupovic, foster
    Walker, morgan, friend, shaw, paredes
    Hazard, ayew, tadic, deulofeu, leko
    Ibra, aguero, gray

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      downgrade Shaw or Walker and get rid of the 4.0s (get a 4.5 3-man rotation). Really like the front 8

      1. Thoughtopsy
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers

  17. bakayoko
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Who's the best 7.5 Chelsea mid & why? 😀

    A. Fabregas
    B. Oscar
    C. Willian
    D. Pedro

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      A most nailed and corners and long restarts.

    2. Notso Athletic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      C. Will start, where as questions still around B and D

      Even though set pieces are a good guideline they are not all we think. Chelsea were top scorers last year from direct free kicks - with just 4 goals (same as Sunderland and West Ham). United and City scored one between them all season and the guy that took it (Mata) probably won't play this season lol. And Willian does get involved in them too.

  18. bakayoko
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    A. Hazard
    B. De Bruyne

    1. NielsYBFC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      B

    2. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      A if you have Aguero.

  19. josiahdclark
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    RMT- Total 99m

    Schmeichel Jakupovic

    Koscielny Shaw Azpilicueta Stones Fernández

    Özil DeBruyne Fischer Leko Eriksen

    Agüero Sakho Borini

    Should I:

    A.) pick up VanDijk and De Gea, dropping Stones and Schmeichel?
    B.) invest in a better striker? Maybe Iheanacho (who seems like he may have an amazing season)?
    C.) look at a different option in midfield over Leko (who could have a breakout season if Pulis allows)?

    1. Ryssel
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Downgrade your defense and invest the money in another frontline striker that is assured of minutes in GW1.

  20. Birds of Prey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    I like the DDG or upgrade Jaku
    ARS is dicey until fixtures improve and not a mess.
    downgrade back line by 1.0
    Haz makes more sense since you have Aguero--gives you another capt option.
    Upgrade 2 fwds to 6.5s IMO GL

  21. Ryssel
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Not so sure KDB can really be included in New Players.
    Yes he came from a foreign league, but he also played at Chelsea for years.... he would have known exactly what to expect in the BPL

  22. FantasyADE
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    yes.. virtually every MAN U supporter i know is over excited about Zlatan.. i'm not sure how much game time he will get and will the physical nature of the Prem.. render him useless.. i might try him out and see what happens.. also i agree with RYSSEL.. kdb is familiar withe prem.. as is Negredo.. and Pogba?