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4 August 2016 2330 comments
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After struggling with injury in his debut season for Man United, the stage seemed set for Luke Shaw to establish himself as a regular under Louis van Gaal last time around.

Limited to just 15 starts in 2014/15 after arriving from Southampton for around £30m, the left-back had finally proven his fitness in time for the start of the previous campaign.

Handed a spot in the Dutchman’s XI, Shaw’s raids down the left were a feature of the Red Devils’ first five league matches and earned him 27 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) points, courtesy of an assist, three clean sheets and four bonus points.

A broken leg sustained against PSV in mid-September brought an end to that early promise and sidelined Shaw for the rest of the season.

Having averaged 5.4 points per appearance, it was a case of “what could have been” for the former Saint, as United proceeded to rack up 18 clean sheets and concede just 35 times.

The Prospects

Encouragingly, Shaw – who is priced at 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) – has stepped up his injury recovery over the summer period and started all four of United’s pre-season friendlies.

A strong performance in last night’s draw with Everton had the local press purring and his return to fitness has been duly noted by FPL managers, with over 16% snapping up the full-back, making him the seventh most popular defender on the market.

Although this will be Shaw’s fifth year in the top-flight, the youngster has only managed one full season so far – his breakthrough campaign for Southampton in 2013/14.

The left-back managed just two assists across 35 appearances that term, with a total of 123 points not overly convincing.

Delving into the underlying data for that season shows just why United were keen to splash the cash the following summer.

Shaw’s forages forward to join in the Saints’ attacks saw him ranked third amongst defenders for touches in the final third, whilst only Seamus Coleman made more successful dribbles (64 to 56).

His delivery from out wide also caught the eye. Shaw sat second for both crosses and successful crosses from the back and was placed fifth when it came to key passes, with 33.

In terms of goal threat, the numbers are again very encouraging. Although he failed to score with any of his 24 attempts, Shaw’s total of ten shots on target was bettered by only three other defenders.

Should he steer clear of injury, then, there’s cause for optimism that Shaw could play a significant part in the Fantasy season ahead, offering real potential for points at both ends of the pitch.

Certainly, we can expect him to be handed greater license to forage forward under Mourinho as United move away from Van Gaal’s possession-based approach.

When assessing United’s defence, it would be remiss to ignore the form of Antonio Valencia – identically priced at 5.5, he provided three assists in the recent win over Galatasaray.

It’s no secret, though, that Mourinho was a big fan of Shaw and attempted to sign him for Chelsea prior to the defender’s Old Trafford switch. Arguably, that makes the left-back berth the more secure option, with Matteo Darmian pushing Valencia for minutes on the opposite flank.

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  1. LazFC
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Eriksen + Townsend + 4.0 DEF (would lose Fernandez at 4.5)
    or
    Lamela + Siggy + 4.5 DEF (current team)

    Team at the moment looks like this:

    GK: Cech (Jaku)
    DEF: Shaw - Terry - Stones (Friend, Fernandez)
    MID: Hazard - Lamela - Siggy - Fischer (Capoue)
    FWD: Kun - Ibra - Gray

    1. Big Red Dog
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Will all the French players miss the first game? Payet Koscielny etc.. And what about other players from the Euros? English players should be fine right? ze Germans? Belgians?

      1. Big Red Dog
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Oops reply fail

    2. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Eriksen + Bolasie would keep Fernandez

    3. Manilaman
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Zoom back early, Terry's days could be limited

  2. AppleDunk
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    First draft.

    Forster, Jaku
    Friend, Gabriel, Shaw, Souare, Amat
    Hazard, Alli, Ayew, Bolasie, Leko
    Aguero, Ibrahimovic, Gray

    Please shred it. Any comments appreciated.

    1. SheBangsTheDrums
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I like it! Not too sure on Ayew's credentials with Llorente incoming though! Maybe Tadic instead?

      1. boombaba
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Why people not liking ayew with llorente arrival ? Gomis played up top last year so hardly changes his appeal he still Scores loads of points

        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Ayew has been playing up top lately...and might be leaving...

    2. LazFC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Very hard to have a balanced side with Kunibra.

      Alli is differential but not sure if he's earnt his price hike just yet. He is also competing with Eriksen and Lamela for points.

    3. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Bin Gabriel for stones Williams or Morgan

  3. Henryyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Best 5.0m defender?

    1. LazFC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Stones

    2. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      My question too!

      Loads of the 5mil defenders aren't nailed on.

      Williams? PVA? Dawson? All not ideal.

      1. SheBangsTheDrums
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Gabriel maybe if Arsenal don't sign a CB!

      2. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Pva is brilliant. Just maybe bench him for the odd tough game

    3. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Throw Morgan into the mix too

    4. LC1
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Morgan

  4. SheBangsTheDrums
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Hi lads,

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who's considering both Kun and Ibra. Which front 8 would you prefer

    A. Hazard - Mahrez - Deulofeu - Tadic - Bolasie

    Kun - Ibra - Diomande

    B. Hazard - Mahrez - Tadic - Sanchez - Fletcher

    Kun - Gray - Carroll

    1. Meme2011
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      A 100%

  5. Prøphet
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all!

    Am i stuck in last season to have Vahrez?!

    1. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Looks good for week1

      1. Prøphet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Yea, looks really good for gw 1. Looking at an early wc most likely

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      The Ibrmykhtvarovics will be joining us for WK 2.

      1. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        LOL

  6. pompeyfan
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    I hope West Ham take their last EL qualifying round seriously. They're seeded so they have a very good chance of progressing

  7. Meme2011
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    A) Ibrahimovic & Long/Negredo

    or

    B) Rooney & Lukaku/Batshuayi

    1. King H
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Ibra and Long if the latter is nailed

  8. King H
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Can u get a wee rating out of 10 pls. Thank u

    Forster
    Gabriel Terry Taylor
    Hazard Eriksen Tadic Deulafeo
    Zlatan Kun Wilson/Gray

    Jaku Capoue McAuley Lenihan

    1. Prøphet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      7 for me, not a fan of the defense to start with. The rest are cool

      1. King H
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Any good alternatives for the Terry and Gabriel ??

        1. Prøphet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Well with them i would make the last second call prior to the game and get as much info. Dont have great replacements tho, it really depends on your WC plans.

    2. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      8

  9. Dele Harry
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Hey, just wondering if there is a list of every decent rotation.

    or more specifically which teams rotate well with:
    West Ham
    Soton
    Boro
    West Brom

    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Type rotation in search bar. Theres articles. Or just use the ticker

      1. Dele Harry
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        sorry what's the ticker?

  10. boombaba
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Stones Williams or Morgan ?

    1. LC1
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Depends if Stones or Williams leaves. I'm on Morgan currently but will opt for Williams if he goes to Everton & Stones goes City.

  11. Francescoli
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    1.0 ITB. Where to spend it?

    Mandanda / Jaku
    van Djik / Morgan / Shaw/ Paredes / Smith
    Tadic / Siggy / Mahrez / Ramirez / Hojbjerg
    Musa / Aguera / Ibra

    1. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Bank it

    2. LazFC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Beef up midfield

    3. BooYaKasha
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Hojbjerg > Fletcher and Ramirez > 7.5

      1. Martial Eriksen
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        You need 2 ITB for that

    4. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      ramirez to either townsend or deulofeu

    5. LC1
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Mahrez to Hazard.

      Good team!

  12. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Tempted to go Vahrez and leave the United attack alone for the time being. Even if they do start well, the points could be spread out...

    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Maybe just Shaw? Going Kane up top then?

      1. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        ..ignore me...Vardy.

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah, Shaw and Vahrez is tempting me.

          1. Christina.
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Sunday will hopefully give some answers.

            Or more questions.

            lol

    2. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Zlatan

    3. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      is that not a bit high risk? I've considered it, but Hull could mount a great backs against the wall performance for a 0-0

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        It's arguably safer given Leicester are a more settled side than United.

        Have you seen Hull's team in FPL. More red flags than an average Granville team.

        1. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          true, but I wouldn't be doubling up on the Man Utd attack. I reckon one of Vahrez would be good enough

        2. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          This Musa character could do a "Petric" in GW 1...

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            You had to use the P-word didn't you... 😀

            I didn't catch the Barca game. Just how good was he?

              1. Piggs Boson
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Wow. Was he playing Vardy's spot?

                Will he be in Okazaki's position?

                1. Christina.
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  Musa came on half time. In place of Vardy. No idea how they will fit everyone in.

    4. Prøphet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Yea, Vahrez is really tempting me as i wrote above...

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Oh yeah, missed that! I think it's a good idea. One can leave after GW1 if necessary 🙂

        1. Prøphet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Yea, exactly. If really needed. It does depend for me on the Lukaku situation for Chelsea 🙁

    5. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Vahrez some cents too much this year..

    6. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Same here Giggs Boson;
      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/08/04/sleeper-luke-shaw/?hc_page=1#hc_comment_13671112

      We meet every Thursday night. Come dressed as Jemma Coleman.

    7. The Kolarov Mane ⚔
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      You don't think as champions they might not play with the full commitment of last season? I am wary of this... hangover effect.

  13. 32chickens
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Tip
    I've just been doing one of those predict the scores ,for the first few GWs as i'm away.It really does focus the mind and make my fpl more realistic-it can all be a bit fanciful at this stage trying to fit the 'flvour of the minute player'in
    Of particular note for me is the starts both CHE and LEI have.

    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Good call mate

  14. Big Red Dog
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Will all the French players miss the first game? Payet Koscielny etc.. And what about other players from the Euros? English players should be fine right? ze Germans? Belgians?

    1. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I can't see the English players not playing, they have had a lot f rest, including during the tournament! 😉

      1. Big Red Dog
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Lol my thoughts exactly!

  15. Badhat
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Stones + Terry (1)
    or
    Azpi + Pieters (2)

    thanks

    1. Brayden29
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      1

    2. Les Majesteux
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      1

    3. Badhat
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Ty for input, I agree

  16. Rhinos
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Hart
    Dann Van Dijk
    Sanchez Mahrez Hazard Redmond Routledge
    Aguero Gray Negredo
    4m 4m 4m 4m

    AOA WC straight away
    Madness?

    1. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Zlatan

    2. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Are there that much 4.0 options around?

      To start with, there are better GK than Hart at that price.
      Alexis may not start and Routledge might not be nailed imo.

    3. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I don't like it. If you are doing that you should have Zlatan

  17. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    is McAuley nailed on?
    So is JEvans?

    1. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      McAuley no he's about 45

    2. The Brit.
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I'd assume Evans is

  18. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Which is the best 4.5m rotation pair for Goalkeepers?

    1. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Heaton-Foster is very popular

      1. Karan_G14
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate! Was on Foster-Heaton. Is Foster nailed?

    2. OLLY G
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Foster and Heaton.

    3. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Best 4.5m keeper if not rotating ?

      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Foster

    4. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Forster and the hull keeper costs the same

  19. OLLY G
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Is Sanchez worth the 1.5m more than Ozil?

    1. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

    2. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

  20. Henryyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    RMT

    Foster (Jak)

    Terry - Shaw - Stones - McAuley - 4.0

    Hazard - Tadic - Firmino - Feghouli (Capoue)

    Ibra - Kun - Gray

    What do you think?

    1. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Similar to mine but I have Ramirez firm for tadic and feg

      Sure stones is safe ? I am undecided on him

      1. Henryyy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        No i am not sure on Stones, but if he stays at Everton he prob is safe for the start of the season?

        1. boombaba
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Unless his heads been turned too much.

          I hope he starts but if Everton buy another CB I see him benched.

    2. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Good

    3. Wardinator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Looks good but not firmino & feg

  21. anish10
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Hows this lookin for a Kun/Ibra team

    Foster || Jaku
    Shaw || Terry || Friend || PVA || B.Smith
    Hazard || Sanchez || Fischer || Delefeou || Hjoeberg
    Aguero || Ibra || Diamonde

    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Don't like it. Your 3rd forward, 5th mid and 5th defender is very weak.

  22. OLLY G
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    @ Giggs Boson

    Are you still favouring Ibra / Kun / Lukaku?

    I'm really struggling to see how Lukaku can be ignored with those great fixtures.

    1. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      He wasnt that good at the end of the season, and at euro's....thats prob why people are waiting to see...

  23. darkmatt3r
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    A: Hazard + Feghouli

    or

    B: Fabregas + Ayew gives me an extra .5 to spend else wear

    Also

    Deulefou or Townsend?

  24. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    West Brom have announced that chairman Jeremy Peace has agreed to sell the club to a Chinese investment group.

    Cue: Wes Brom sign Messi for $200m

    1. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      lol

    2. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Cue: Wes Brom appoint Wes Brown as CEO and change name of club.

    3. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Hehe!
      Do the Chinese know anything about football?
      Or will they try to sign Lebron James?

      1. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I think some of them do know a lot about football, and even more so about foreign direct investment

    4. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      When you realise Pogba might cost Man Utd over 200M over the 5yrs..
      What a waste of money!

  25. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    BREAKING: Jeremy Peace sells #wba to a Chinese investment group

  26. Koflok
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Hows this team, well assuming Benteke moves to Palace

    Foster - 4m
    Terry - Shaw - Stones - Kone - Wilson
    Hazard - Martial - Mahrez - Deulofeu - 4.5m
    Kun - Tekkers - Gray

  27. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Hi....any views on the best 5.5 Milfield??

    G ramirez....don't know too much about him...is he nailed?

    Max gradel....

    Thanks

    1. Les Majesteux
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Would rather go Ibe or Fischer.

    2. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Gaston - from a boro fan he's good!

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers..will investigate gaston

      2. El-Kloppico
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Better than Fischer?

        1. boombaba
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          No sure, Fischer looked good in pre season but apart from that I ain't seen much of him.

          I like that gaston is in the hole and Karanka loves him, plus he's on set peices with leadbitter (leadbitter won't play)

          1. El-Kloppico
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I'm on Gaston also.. But intrigued with so much love for Fischer around..

  28. The Brit.
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Think I'm sorted now! Would appreciate thoughts!

    Butland (Pope)
    Stones, Evans, Shaw (Wasilewski, Pocognoli)
    Hazard, Mané, Ramsey, Bojan (Hojbjerg)
    Agüero, Kane, Gray

    I know the bench is horrible but I'll probably end up WC-ing early on anyway.
    Tempted to go Andy Carroll over Gray though... someone convince me I'm not crazy.

    1. Big Red Dog
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Missing too many big names in the midfield imo! Nice front line and yes Carroll is a good bet

      1. The Brit.
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Anyone in particular?

  29. Big Red Dog
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Foster/Heaton
    Pieters Souare Evans Friend Koscielny
    Hazard Sanchez Tadic (Hojbjerg Fletcher)
    Aguero Vardy Gray

    What do we reckon fellas

  30. boombaba
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Who has most bonus potential out of 5.0m defenders and below ...

    Williams ? Anyone else ?