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A second Friday kick-off of the season and a huge cauldron of a fixture.

When Chelsea meet Liverpool at the Bridge, things are rarely dull. We can normally bank on goals aplenty and for Diego Costa to find a way to court controversy.

Being fair, he’s managed to achieve that every match so far, though he’s also managed to notch either a goal or an assist in each of his four starts – making it easy to forgive his little indiscretions. For now.

Antonio Conte will be looking for more of the same as he puts out a Chelsea line-up that includes a second debut for David Luiz. He steps into the back four with John Terry nursing an ankle injury.

Liverpool are forced into a change of their own – the late revelation that Roberto Firmino would miss out with a “minor” groin injury opens the way for his compatriot Philippe Coutinho to make a return.

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  1. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Definitely the toughest season yet imo. People say that every year, of course they do, but there's almost a helpless malaise atm.

    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      chin up ser davos, you've faced worse

  2. brianutd-why always we? 20
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Serious knee jerking going on

    1. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah I think it's time for me to get off soon

  3. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Average is 7?

    Pretty high

    1. BbBb
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      From how mane players?
      Can't see many people doing well from the game tonight. I'm glad I only had hazard

      1. BbBb
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        How many* 😉

        1. PvA
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Average is like 2 players

      2. Numb
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        That's bad. You'd be better having no one.

    2. BbBb
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lovren and Henderson 2.2 and 0.8% ownership... Only Costa and Coutinho will hurt at all

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        It's from fpldiscovery not me guessing lol

  4. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    How does this Hazard less wildcard look??

    Heaton jaku
    Valencia williams Evans holebas amat
    Firmino Antonio cazorla bolasie capoue
    Kun ibra costa

    Uses exact cash...comments appreciated

    Thanks

    1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Very nice.

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks....

  5. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone seen much of Stoke this year? I know they've been bad but fixtures haven't been fantastic.

    All changes from next week. Wonder if Pieters or Anrautovic is worth a look

    1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Without Butland, avoid the defense.

    2. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Bony could do really well too imo

    3. GS456
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      ive sat through all 4 games, wouldnt go near us yet mate. Players struggling for form, and we don't know the best line up or system yet. 1 win in 15 matches! and no clean sheet since march. Don't fall into it.

      1. Les Bleus
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        We need more of these kind of fans around here 😉

        1. GS456
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          And im going the game sunday, really negative about us at the minute.

    4. Scholes Balls
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      i am considering shaqiri from nect week

    5. 42towels
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wait and see. Maybe Pieters if you don't actually need to play him most weeks.

  6. Emiliano Sala
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Guys how statics are calculated ? Is it computers to do or people ?
    Something like passes numbers or posession or bps and ...

    1. Podge
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      people

  7. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Are people shipping Hazard?

    He's not been involved really in the past two games.

    1. Pirlø's Pen
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Gone already for me. Much rather Mane/KDB/Sanchez.

    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Just did. Better options at the moment. I'll get him back later I'm sure

  8. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    90% chance I'm dropping Ibra on my WC.

    KDB, Firmino, Antonio, Snod, Capoue
    Aguero, Costa, Lukaku

    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Don't think KDB is the best pick.

      1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Why?

        1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Drops deep, rotation risk, points spread

      2. Pompel
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Agree, would swap for Sanchez given Arsenal fixtures

    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Great front 8. Just note that KDB at risk of rotation with CL, plus City mids may spread the points.

    3. Zoom Zoom
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Downgrade Costa to Tekkers/Bony/Deeney and use cash to upgrade Snodgrass to Santi or Firmino to Mane. Should have some Arsenal coverage, and both Chelsea and Hull have really really tough fixtures ahead. Also Firmino has a possible groin injury. Keep KDB... he is looking so dangerous and this should increase with Kun coming back. Plus set pieces, etc.

    4. DantheManinaPan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ibra is better than all those picks bar Aguero.

  9. Lizard Lips
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What's the attraction with Heaton? Burnleys fixtures are very poor.

    1. GS456
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Save magnet!

    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Gets save points. Rotates well with Pickford. Clean sheets are a lottery this year, so many are going cheap

    3. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      saves. wasn't he top keeper 2 years ago?

  10. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Nice

    Thierry Henry says "The thing about Matip is he's been solid"

    1. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Henry is the worst pundit ever

      1. The Iron Tulip
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Worse than Owen?

        1. TokyoRisingSun
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Ah, forgot about him

  11. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Austin looking like a good pick in a couple of weeks!

    1. clownbot2000
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Good one, he looked sharp and hungry in midweek.
      Although he will have to score a bunch to break into most people's front lines, so many in-form strikers to choose from it seems

  12. 42towels
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    WCers who are you getting in tonight as placeholders for potential 0.2 rises?

    So far Mane, Baines, Walker, Benteke, Fer, Costa on my list. (have Antonio and Lukaku already)

    1. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Got the ones rising tonight will see about the games tomorrow...

    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      KDB, Baines, Heaton, Benteke. Already have Antonio, Capoue and Lukaku.

      Can get Mane without dropping Sanchez who (if he scores tomorrow) could get me a 0.1 with one more rise. Not sure Mane will double rise anyways.

    3. Ibracadabra
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Already own Baines and Costa.

      Getting in Mane and KDB as those are likeliest double risers and may want to keep Mane anyway.

      Ditching Barkley, Redmond and Gray who all may drop tonight or this weekend by look of it...

  13. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is it worth doing sanchez & Gray to firminho & Kun? I have exact amount ITB but gray is expected to fall today.

  14. clownbot2000
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I noticed Arnautovic in the differentials article just as I noticed Stoke have an awesome row of fixtures coming up. Although I was thinking Shaqiri when he comes back from injury. Just have a feeling now he is settled in England he will show us just how good he is. And still only 24 years of age, although he can look 40-odd at times.

  15. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    3 - Henderson (37)
    2 - Coutinho (31)
    1 - Lovren (30)

    1. Podge
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Baps hate Costa 😆

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Costa fail

    3. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lol, knew Coutinho wouldn't get 3

    4. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Btw this is why Costa is a no go for me in fpl

      1. Ibracadabra
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        He got 3 BPS last week against Swansea, in a game CHE had possession.

        It will be EXTREMELY RARE this season that CHE don't have more possession and that they are pressed so well as LIV did.

        This caused Costa to lack service up front. He was never going to get 3 BPS today (Hendo winning goal) and so maybe 2 or 1 if he took more players on 1 v 1 but not enough touches. Not really surprising.

        His value is still tremendous on form.

  16. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Would you be happy with this WC team?

    Foster Pickford

    Baines Valencia Walker Holebas Amat

    Mane Cazorla Firmino Bolasie Capoue

    Aguero Ibra Benteke

    1. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Antonio instead of firmino sorry

      1. Podge
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yeh its quite lovely

      2. Pompel
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        looks solid, but not sold on Walker. Downgrade him and upgrade Benteke to Lukaku

      3. stuarto
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Great team. Only problem is who to bench.

    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I would downgrade walker and mane to get Lukaku over Benteke

    3. 42towels
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Looks good. Antonio instead of Mane gives you Lukaku? Am leaning that way.

    4. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      thanks gents

  17. Pompel
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Costa - is he fixture proof? Upcoming fixtures are offf putting, but could provide better value than Ibra

    1. The Iron Tulip
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I always go form over fixtures

      1. Pompel
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Let's see how Ibra fares on Sunday, if it's wirth swapping

    2. 42towels
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      If it's either/or, For a little more money, you also get bonus, penalties and cover the large ownership.

      1. Pompel
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Those £1.8 is quite a lot in fpl terms. Allows upgrade of e.g. Benteke to Lukaku

    3. Numb
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Big players like that are generally fixture proof

    4. GS456
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      im waiting on ibras performance sunday. to decide who to ship for Kun

  18. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    It's either drop Costa or drop Hazard. If you pick Costa then you are making a mistake.

  19. Swan - Villa Proud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Last Aguero watch until 2am

    FPLS: -98.5%, needs almost 3.6K more NTO to reach -100%.
    FFF: -101.7% and steady. NTO's have stopped it seems

    I don't think it'll happen 🙁 Hope I'm wrong thought

    1. Costa in Wengerland
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wont drop.

  20. EspanYOLO
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Who would you transfer gray out for?

    Have 0.3 ITB

    Is Rashford worth a punt?

    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No way about Rashford. Much too risky.

      1. EspanYOLO
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        So who should I get in?

        Really struggling.

  21. 7alwachi
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Double rise for Fer this week you think? (Wildcard)

    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      maybe if he scores a hatrick tomorrow. double rise is pretty rare

  22. JabbaWookiee
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Evening all. Looking for some sensible advice.

    WC or hold fire? Both would leave me with 0.0m ITB.

    Current XV (-4):
    Schmeichel Jakupovic
    Valencia Paredes Walker Stones Amat
    Capoue BOLASIE Redmond Alli Firmino
    AGUERO Lukaku Ibrahimovic

    WC XV:
    BORUC Jakupovic
    Valencia WILLIAMS EVANS Stones Amat
    Capoue BOLASIE ANTONIO CAZORLA Firmino
    AGUERO Lukaku Ibrahimovic

    1. 7alwachi
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Definitely current, Spurs will do well in the coming weeks.

      1. JabbaWookiee
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah I'm currently swaying towards current. My only worry is price rises. Can always downgrade Evans as a spare defender if need be though

    2. The Iron Tulip
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Hold!

    3. Podge
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      current one looks fine, dont waste it

    4. Sweetboi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      That WC team isn't affordable?

      1. Sweetboi
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Wait...don't mind me.

      2. JabbaWookiee
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Is that a question or a statement? Either way, it is affordable!

  23. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    WC team so far;

    Foster / Jaku
    Baines / Valencia / Stones / Amat / Kingsley
    Sanchez / Firmino / Antonio / Bolasie / Capoue
    Aguero / Costa / Benteke

    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Can drop Sanchez to Hazard if he picks up form again.

    2. The Iron Tulip
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Looks good, but don't like stones at all

  24. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    if on WC, keep haz or go

    1 Hazard - ars,hul,LEI,MUN
    2 Payet - SOT, MID,cry,SUN
    3 KDB BOU, swa, tot, EVE

    1. The Iron Tulip
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Out of those, 2

  25. DantheManinaPan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I am £0.4 short of Hazard + Gray to Aguero + Mane. Where can I find this extra £0.4?

    Foster, Jakupovic
    Valencia, Stones, Williams, Friend, Amat
    Sanchez, Hazard, Antonio, Fer, Capoue
    Ibra, Defoe, Gray.

    I could take Defoe out instead of Gray, but don't really want to take Gray's looming drop.
    I could swap Stones for Holebas perhaps?
    Do I just leave it and get Firmino?

    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Stones to a 4.5 maybe

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ok thanks for the help

    2. C0YS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      The biggest question is why you want Mane in the first place.

    3. WE GO FOR IT
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'd take Firmino.

      1. DantheManinaPan
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ok thanks

  26. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Ok, so do you guys prefer this front 8.

    Sanchez, Firmino, Antonio, Snod, Capoue
    Aguero, Costa, Lukaku

    It's good right? 😀

    1. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I like it

    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I do like it as well

  27. C0YS
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Benteke or Costa for short-term transfer (2-3 GW's)? Need to get somebody in before Negredo price drop, and can't get Aguero in just yet.

  28. Emiliano Sala
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Fml
    Costa now at 0 bonus !!!!!

    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No surprise really.

    2. Alonso's Ball
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I think there is an adjustment for the winning team after the final whistle. I've noticed this happen a few times this year

  29. Alonso's Ball
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I have the perfect money for Ibra & Haz -> Kun & Mane

    No other attackers from any of those teams

    Yay or Nay?

  30. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Can I have I view on the better wildcard team please....

    A
    Heaton jaku
    Valencia williams Evans holebas amat
    Firmino Antonio CAZORLA  bolasie capoue
    Kun ibra COSTA

    B
    Heaton jaku
    Valencia williams Evans holebas amat
    Firmino Antonio HAZARD  bolasie capoue
    Kun ibra BENTEKE

    Both use exact cash...comments appreciated
    Thanks