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29 October 2016 2782 comments
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Saturday’s events conclude at Selhurst Park where Crystal Palace host Jurgen Klopp’s buoyant Liverpool side.

Goals certainly look on the agenda – Palace are yet to keep a clean sheet this season, while Klopp’s defence are without a shut-out on the road in ten away trips.

Christian Benteke will carry the Eagles’ threat against his former club, while Liverpool’s likely benefactors are far more difficult to pin down.

Philippe Coutinho heads into the encounter having earned more than 174,000 transfers in as the most popular target ahead of Gameweek 10.

However, James Milner won’t be featuring on the scoresheet: he misses out having missed training this week with a virus. Alberto Moreno comes in at left-back for the visitors – a potential weak point that will no doubt be targeted by Alan Pardew’s men.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Think Sterlings time is coming to a close

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Such good fixtures though

      1. TheTinman
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        He has a couple more weeks before I can manoeuvre him out anyway. Maybe he can save himself

      2. Sideways Backwards
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Man city can obviously score against anyone but personally think they'll not score loads over the next 3, Middleborough have shown they can defend now, Burnley at home will park, palace will probably ship some

    2. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have other fires to fight so he stays for me
      Re-access in a few weeks

    3. rocky7st
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He's going to be losing value at a rate of knots now

    4. Virgil Hilts
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It came to a close last week for me & I sold him.

      Don't think he's worth that kind of money long term, and out of form short term.

    5. Sleep Talk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'll give him Middlesbrough, then there's two away games, Chelsea and Leicester. Aguero might be enough for those last fixtures..

  2. Jay_
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Need 5 points from Pieters for a draw, 6 for the win on MNF in FFS Champions league tie. No bonus for Coutinho and Deeney assist removed is a killer.

      1. zambezi_srk
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Do you have any idea how coutinho wasn't awarded any bonus points this evening against palace??

        1. Rasping Drive
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          The system is fooked up. I miss the "Man in the Stand"

        2. Virgil Hilts
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Another travesty, best player on pitch and 2 assists.

      2. Virgil Hilts
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        That Deeney is a blow.

        I was a at live match, on phone said he'd scored, then downgraded to an assist to an OG, now removed altogether!

        What happened?

        He's getting rage transferred out shortly (although I had sacked him already, will just make me feel better when I press the button).

    • The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I was debating Mane in for Son but after today I am not sure....... Opinions?

      1. Hank Scorpio
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If I was selecting now I would go for Coutinho, he looks way more involved and has set pieces.

        1. The Big Fella
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          My rival has him though and I need a differential! You might be right though. Not as expensive and I can upgrade defence.

          1. Hank Scorpio
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Too early for differentials, go for Cout and use the cash elsewhere.

            1. The Big Fella
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Ok. Just done it now to beat the price change. Thanks!

          2. Zombie
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Too early to look for differentials. Just get Coutinho

            1. The Big Fella
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Done thanks

    • Z
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Simple question

      Son or Walcott > > > Sanchez or KDB

      1. Les Bleus
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Son to Sanchez.

      2. Krionos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Son to KDB

      3. Darklord_bg
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I would Son to KDB.

        City have better fixtures and they are getting their stride back and KDB is involved in everything they do.

      4. Mr. Blonde
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Son to KDB

      5. Pariße
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Son to KDB imo

      6. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Son to Sanchez. KDB has more chance of getting rotated (like today)

    • Hank Scorpio
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Evening guys....I want to fit Coutinho in, any opinions on my best option?

      Heaton - Foster
      Bellerin - Walker - Pieters - Holebas - Amat
      Sanchez - Walcott - Firmino - Shaqiri - Fletcher
      Aguero - Bony - Austin

      2ft and 0.6 in the bank.

      Was thinking:

      Shaqiri --> Coutinho
      and
      Walker --> Morgan

      Sound good?

      1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'd keep Shaq myself and get rid of Bony.

        Wait until Stoke play at least.

        1. Hank Scorpio
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I know, but I want Coutinho.

          Time to cash in on Wally?

          1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Agree Cout a must. Like the planned pool double up.
            Arsenals fixtures do take a turn soon. Depends if he's broken.

      2. Cojiro
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Walcott to Coutinho. U have enough Arsenal cover

        1. Cojiro
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Saying that, I don't like the Stoke triple up. Your proposed moves would be solid if bony looks like doing something Monday

      3. Darklord_bg
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Wally to Coutinho is what I did (for -4) and I don't regret it one bit.

      4. Hank Scorpio
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers fellas.

    • Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Bench of Amat, Snodgrass, Diomande.

      Who to fix first!??

      1. FIRMINOLOOKGOAL
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Snoddy

        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I think so. Amat might yet rise from the dead. And I should never have got Diomande in.

      2. Hank Scorpio
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Snoddy, most value tied up there.

    • Cojiro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Which team has the best defence over the next few gameweeks. Ticker says probably Leicester. Do we agree?

      1. Jay_
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Leicester and Stoke rotation for the next 4 looks good. Could just chance Fuchs for the whole next 4.

          1. Cojiro
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Thanks. I'm unlikely to rotate the player I get in. Tempted by Fuchs

            1. Ha.
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Do we think Fuchs will drop? He's at -77%, would be a steal at 5.3!

              1. Cojiro
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Unlikely

        • Hank Scorpio
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Definitely up there.

      2. FPL Footy Show Pod
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Aarrgggggg now Deeney to Defoe just became worse!!!!!

        So next week Valencia to:
        A) Holebas
        B) Pieters
        C) Fuchs
        D) VVD

        1. Hank Scorpio
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          C

        2. Darklord_bg
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Fuchs or Morgan but that's also what I'm trying to decide 😀

      3. Defcons are for Kinnear
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Can't decide if I love or hate this game

        1. Krionos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          🙂

        2. Sylas
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Love to hate this game? 😛

      4. KingOllie
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Son -> Cout a no brainer right?

        1. Hank Scorpio
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I would.

      5. fatherted
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Deeney assist. Now you see it, now you don't.

      6. Clifford☯
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Is Fuchs likely to drop (-75.6 % on fplstats)? Would rather wait till after to get him in for Valencia.

        1. Cojiro
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Unlikely I would say. Good fixtures coming up

        2. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          no chance - people will look at this fixtures - already loads talking about the possibility of importing him

      7. FIRMINOLOOKGOAL
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Which is better combo for the next 5?

        A. Chadli - Austin
        B. Redmond - Musa

        Cheers!

        1. Hansel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          A by quite some distance for me

        2. FPL Footy Show Pod
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          A nailed

          1. FIRMINOLOOKGOAL
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Would it be mad if I combined Redmond-Austin?

      8. Carcetti
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You reckon Ahmed Musa worth a punt??

        1. EmreCan Hustle
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I have asked a dozen times. No one knows.

          1. Carcetti
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Might just do it. Leicesters fixtures are nice..

            Only alternatives I can think of is Austin or Rondon..

        2. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Hard to say with champs league

        3. Freddie Cutecat
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'm going to say no

          I think slimani is first team for Leicester and was just rested for ucl

          And doubt all of vardy, mahrez, slimani and miss would all start- Musa may go back to being a super sub. Also Ranieri clearly sees him as a winger more than a striker which could limit future returns.

          I would expect Okazaki to make way for slimani and musa for albrighton when ucl is sorted for them

          If long term though- he could have value around AFCON as Nigeria didn't qualify and both mahrez and slimani will leave at this time, so he will surely get games then

          1. Carcetti
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Thanks

      9. seanmcging
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        So I need rid of Ibra after today (even captained him), I'm thinking Lukaku & also Haz for Sterling, this would leave me with no Sanchez, but I do have Wally.

        Wot do you guys think?

        1. Krionos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'm so glad I don't have him, cos if I did, I would still be contemplating whether to keep. He had SOOO many chances to score today and could have had 2 if it wasn't for Heaton. That miss in the 88th minute though.... argh!

          1. seanmcging
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Just can't hold him now, not after today, captaining but him over Kun really was a terrible decision!! I'm thinking I might be making a mistake by not going for Sanchez, but Giroud could take his points, then again he might be more of a threat to Wally!!

            1. Jake Donahue
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I would keep him for swansea

        2. Neeskens Under Matip
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Keep him, check his fixtures, he was unlucky today against a good team and amazing goalkeeper...

      10. Garfield1001
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Anybody know why Deeney assist removed?

        1. S.Kuqi
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Cos he didn't assist the goal

        2. TOPCAT1960
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Cos its given to Pereyra....

      11. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Koscielny such a let down since I bought him

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Wish I had him over Walker. Baines googles 🙁

      12. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Hi...got a monster 80 plus score this week...so happy to sacrifice a hit to dispose of Williams....

        Any views on deeney and williams to Austin and fuchs for -4?

        Team is

        Heaton Pickford
        Mustafi Williams Evans holebas amat
        Sanchez Walcott firmino coutinho capoue
        Kun Benteke deeney

        Comments appreciated....cheers

        1. Hank Scorpio
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Good moves.

        2. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Looks good to me. The psychology of feeling good about hits after a big score is interesting. In post coital glow of 80 points I'm not surprised you are gung-ho about hits!

          1. Flynny
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers....I've not taken a hit all season.....so this week feels like the time...

            Just need to decide if I get rid of deeney or benteke first.....

        3. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Well played.

          1. Flynny
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers

      13. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Need a defender transfer for Gw11 me thinks ie bye bye Williams

        0.0itb 1FT

        Heaton
        Mustafi Holebas WILLIAMS
        Sanchez Walcott* Firmino Coutinho
        Aguero Lukaku Wilson

        Pickford Allen Evans Amat

        A - Williams >>> Morgan
        B - Williams >> Cedric
        C - Williams >> Daniels/Francis

        1. Clifford☯
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          A

        2. AZERTY
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          A doing the same

      14. Liber
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Man City
        What will be formation with KDB back and Gundogan playing?

        aguero
        KDB silva sterling
        fernandinho gundogan
        ( 4 at the back?)

        So Nolito fals out?

      15. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thank God I got rid of Ibra 2 GW ago.
        Amazing against Burnley they still cannot score.
        But go Heaton! What a keeper!

        1. the axolotl
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          fantastic performance from heaton tbf. i feel a bit sorry for ibra owners, as on another day, he could have easily had an awful lot of points.

          1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            It's been like that a while though hasn't it. I kept holding on and finally broke free. Result for non owners if many captained Ibra too.

      16. Krul Runnings
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Lads. Sorry for asking what I'm sure has been asked aready.

        Where has my DEENEY assist gone? Lol

        1. Krul Runnings
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ignore.

          Just seen above

        2. Monkey Hanger
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Given to Pereya.

      17. Hansel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I've never been a big fan of hits. However, this season I have started reassessing my opinions about them.

        I have taken three -4 hits and one -8 hit this season, where the -8 was this week.

        Solely Son -> Coutinho made up for the 8 point hit this week and while watching the game I got the feeling that I almost instantly have gained my points back on most occasions. So I decided to look at the immediate effect of my hits this year by the following equation:

        Total IN scores
        - Total Out scores
        +/- Captain effect if captaining a purchased player (compared to VC score which I assume would have been the captain otherwise)
        - Transfer cost

        This gives me, for the 3 GWs with -4 hits, a net of:
        +10
        +17
        -10
        = +17

        This GW I am on a -3 score in immediate effect but with 2 players left to play, thus assuming a positive net effect by the end of the week.

        A hit today is a FT tomorrow. There are long-term gains from my hits in addition to the immediate GW results both in points and i team value, but also points gained from FTs the following weeks where the hit is already "taken care of".

        Sometimes it is worth holding a transfer and it all depends on the hit, but I found this quite interesting and worthwhile sharing. I believe I will continue being a bit bolder with hits for the rest of the season as there are many explosive players out there and having them at the right time is likely to make up for transfer costs!

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          You're right - I too have had good experiences with recent hits. It's more fun too!

        2. JJO
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          If I think Im gonna be better with some player long term I dont mind taking a hit
          Or like this week,with Walcot,Monreal,Snoddy,Cameron,Amat and Rodwell I just had to do -8

      18. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Best Liverpool and man utd combined 11 would be
        De Gea
        Clyne
        Bailly
        Matip
        Milner
        Henderson
        Lallana
        Pogba
        Coutinho
        Firmino
        Mane

        Agree?

        1. Nicks93
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Lol Pogba

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I would put Wijnaldum or Can ahead of him tbh

            1. Nicks93
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Obviously

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                This is not my list btw

        2. Matamatics
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Blind over Matip for starters

          1. Matamatics
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Mkhitaryan over Henderson too

            1. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Then who plays as deepest CM?

          2. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Ok, any other changes

        3. A.T
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Pogba ➡ Herrera.

      19. TheTinman
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Fuchs is worth it over Morgan isn't he?

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Probably

        2. HurriKane
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yes

          The Austrian was second amongst defenders in terms of chances created, top for corners and successful tackles and seventh in terms of crosses.

          As a result he finished 2015/16 with 25 bonus points, the top tally amongst defenders. Couple that with four assists and 15 clean sheets and it’s clear that Fuchs remains the luxury item in the champions’ backline.

          1. Bellerinmondo
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            this was last season though? I got Dawson and PVA in based on last year's stats and they've been rubbish !

            1. Bellerinmondo
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I am also getting Fuchs btw

        3. Nicks93
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Definitely if you can find the cash

      20. F4L
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Why would there be doubts over Austin's playing time? Surely hes nailed in the team now, injury permitting ofc?

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Doubts because Boufal is now fit meaning more rotation and then theres whether Puel will prioritise league or Europa games.

      21. HurriKane
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Guys next week captaincy is a little tricky for me

        Is Austin(HUL) a safer option than all of the below ?

        Kun vs (MID) 2 cs in last 2

        Coutinho/Firmino vs (WAT) - 3 cs in last 3

        Lukaku vs (CHE) - 3 cs in last 3

        1. Bellerinmondo
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Kun is safer than Austin imo

        2. marquinhos
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Tough one for us all tbh!
          Leaning to one out of Kun, Austin or Coutinho
          hard to decide really

      22. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Keep money itb. Lukaku -> Kane switch coming soon 🙂

      23. Nicks93
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Is Holebas getting 1 bap?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          3 - Prödl (29)
          2 - Britos, Amrabat (26)

          No 1

          1. Nicks93
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            🙁

      24. HellasLEAF
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Disappointed in Kos/Gunners defence. Continue to concede despite nice fixtures. And attacking points haven't come. Will stick with but stings when you see cheaper players each week do the business