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20 November 2016 1788 comments
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Gameweek 12 continues with a Sunday clash on Teesside as Chelsea bid for a sixth successive win and clean sheet against Aitor Karanka’s Middlesbrough.

Fantasy managers head into the encounter with big expectations of both Diego Costa and Eden Hazard – 17% have the armband on this pair, with Costa captained by 10%.

But Hazard’s form is perhaps the most eye-catching. He’s fired goals in his last four Gameweeks and attracted more than 350,000 acquisitions heading into yesterday’s deadline, more than any other FPL asset.

Meanwhile, Antonio Conte’s defence will be seeking a sixth consecutive clean sheet, with Marcos Alonso’s 144,000 new owners expecting immediate dividends from the Spaniard.

Karanka’s side will not roll-over. Middlesbrough have battled to draws at both Arsenal and City in their last three, and earned a victory against Bournemouth in their previous Riverside Stadium encounter.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    8/12 of my GW ranks are at least 1m. 😆

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Who cares, at least I get top of the page posts.

    2. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      7 here 🙂 smashing season

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        😆 You still ahead of me Nidgey?

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          I would say so.. not by much though 🙂

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Looks like you're 17 ahead. I might close that a bit with a double WBA clean sheet.

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Aye i'm set for further pain tomorrow 🙁

              Just can't get going so far

              1. Davido989
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Same here. Trying all sorts of things.

                1. KingNidge
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Bold steps must be taken young berbs.. i need to save a transfer this week and gather my thoughts i think

                  1. Davido989
                    • 15 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    I'm going for another hit.. get them all in 😀

                    1. KingNidge
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      What you eyeing up?

    3. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I have no idea what to think about my season so far. On for 7th red in a row and still in top 50k OR. Weird.

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I rather be in your position. 🙁

      2. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I would give my left testicle to be in the top 50k but all those reds would annoy me too

    4. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Wow! Just the 2 here

  2. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    .. ...Got 2 FT's and zero cash....
    Is the sensible option williams to cedric and hold the other???

    Pickford Heaton
    Williams Evans holebas Pieters amat
    Sanchez firmino coutinho Hazard capoue
    Kun Benteke Austin

    Cheers

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I'd be worrying about Benteke more than Williams. You can easily get away with Evans Holebas Amat next GW.

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Benteke is at swans next week...think worth keeping for that...

        I'm thinking williams to cedric this week.

        Then use my 2fts for benteke and sanchez to kane and walcott the week after.....

        1. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Ok that's a good plan. Might as well give Teckers one last chance so.

      2. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        This but Everton fixtures don't look good either. With 2 FT I'd lose both.

        1. Flynny
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          The only strikers I want to get though are kane or costa....

          If I use both this week, losing williams and benteke I can't afford either..

          1. Albrightondknight
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Your plan is by far a better idea just go with it makes more sense. I replied above.

  3. Swan - Villa Proud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone watching Survivor Series tonight? Looks a decent show and Toronto is always a hot crowd so should be a great atmosphere

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Wrestling is fake.

      *Logs off.

      1. Swan - Villa Proud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Typical response.

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          It's pretty good tbf.

          1. Swan - Villa Proud
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Results are known, but not to the public and the show is about the story being told.

            1. Worzel Gummidge
                9 years, 2 months ago

                Well the story getting told nowadays is utter gash. Yes it is fake but they still need to be professional and good at what they do. Bring back the Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Jake the Snake Roberts, Bushwhackers, Legion of Doom any day of the week.

                1. Davido989
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  What's their ownership though? 😉

                2. KingNidge
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Bret the Hitman Hart triple (c)

                  1. Swan - Villa Proud
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Wouldn't triple C on triple H be better? 😉

                3. Swan - Villa Proud
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Agreed but that was a different era. Lightning in a bottle which really can never be replicated. Peoples tastes have changed so the formula must as well storylines are more real and based in realit agreed but that was a different era. Lightning in a bottle which really can never be replicated. Peoples tastes have changed so the formula must as well. I like what they've done the last few months especially how the women have a prominent place now

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Is Trish Stratus and Lita still going i remember very fondly wanting to smash their doors in

                    1. umerlfc
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Haha no mate, it's been 10 years since they retired

                    2. Swan - Villa Proud
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Nah long retired all the Lida is an announcer for them. But the new women are better wrestlers in my opinion. Charlotte, night at Jack's, Alexa bliss, Sasha banks, and Bailey

                4. umerlfc
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Well you're going way back. The Attitude and Ruthless Aggression Eras told great stories as well. PG ruined that tbh, but when you talk about wrestling talent, in-ring performances, and matches, WWE still has top level there.

                5. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 2 months ago

                  Hehe rick the model Martel was my favourite back in the day. Not seen it in years now

                  1. fedolefan
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 2 months ago

                    Haha, his weird jump with his hands going up and down was so funny. I remember mimicking that as a kid.

                    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
                      • 16 Years
                      9 years, 2 months ago

                      Hehe yes. And his perfume spray of " arrogance" for men

      2. umerlfc
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yes definitely. Y2J, Owens and Zayn would get huge pops.
        Hopefully Aj Styles takes Team Smackdown to victory

        1. Swan - Villa Proud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Yep. Looking forward to the women's match as well

          1. umerlfc
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Yes but can't see Raw women losing this match

            1. Swan - Villa Proud
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              I think they win as well. Need to build the Charlotte Bayley storyline

      3. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Brock Lesnar fights are real.

        Is the Goldberg vs Lesnar match tonight?

    2. sambyy
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Hmm I had Alonso and Haz but still dropped 7k more :/

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Diego Costa.

      2. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Costa is a high ownership player

    3. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      What do you think to a front line of: Costa, Kane, Austin from GW14 onwards?

      All have juicy fixtures over Xmas, and unlikely to be rotated. Don't know if I can bring myself to sell Aguero but it's certainly tempting!

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Looks ok.

      2. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I will be doing that. Already sold Kun for Kane. Costa comes in for Kaku soon too.

      3. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I keep naddering on about 352 on here. But something like that would make me reconsider a 343.

        1. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Austin is seriously good value and has a long term good run of fixtures.

    4. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Costa could be the highest owned player in the game by next weekend.

      1. keeney
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Spurs and city to come and 4yellows probably holding him back.

      2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        The thing is..while we all wait for this yc. We losing out on a stupid amount of points

        I'm seriously thinking of just doing it

    5. BB-8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Is Redmond + Austin too much Southampton?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I treat them on their individual merits personally.

        1. BB-8
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Soton don't score too many is the problem. Very few forward options in the below 7m bracket

        2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Well said pal. I don't buy into " this gives me cover" crap either

      2. keeney
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yes as you might get tempted with Cedric, Southampton look strong at the back

        1. BB-8
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Cedric will come in for me in a feew weeks. Have Redmond already so need to decide whether Ausrin is the right option

          1. keeney
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            I wouldn't like 3 Southampton players and attacking returns ain't be great. Deeney has some decent fixtures over Christmas ?

    6. uptheboro
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Just back from the Boro Chelsea game...I have an hour spare if anybody would like to ask any questions. I'll do a full analysis tomorrow.

      As a summary, Chelsea look the complete package and they struggled to break us down. Boro will be more than fine - a lot more to come from us

      1. Winks Club
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        How was Pedro?

        1. uptheboro
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Almost scored a great goal in a move that was simply 'hold your hands up, that was great' from our PoV.

          We are very well organised and they'll Chelsea, and Pedro, will be fine.

      2. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        What do you think of Adama? He looked so frustrating.

        1. uptheboro
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          He's frustrating with regards to his composure but you have to remember he hasn't yet played 20 games at the top level.

          His potential is absolutely frightening. Probably the fastest, and one of the strongest players I've ever seen live. He'll score big points in a game soon...

      3. John Nerdelbaum
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Gibson looked good, reports that Chelsea are sniffing around?

        Looked a bit blunt going forward, Chelsea are going to make a lot of teams look ordinary this season

        1. uptheboro
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          He's the pride of Middlesbrough right now: every challenge he's faced in the last three/four years he's met.

          It's not hyperbole to say he's looking like a future England captain. A top top guy as well

      4. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I bought De Roon for Allen as my fifth mid, thought he looked pretty attacking and a bargain at 4.3m. Should I be worried?

        1. uptheboro
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Depends whether you're planning to play him? Attacking today but against Chelsea, City and Arsenal we've brought in the extra holding midfielder - Clayton, pushing De Roon to the right of the three. Against lesser teams De Roon will be asked to play the holding role and Clayton will be replaced with Downing

          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Cheers, yep, bench fodder

      5. uptheboro
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        We're looking really, really solid I'm full of confidence. Chambers and Gibson look fantastic together, it would be great for the two of them if we can get another year out of them both. Any chance Arsenal fans? Seems like a win/win to me for both clubs. Chambers growing at a club that knows how to defend and without the title winning pressure...

      6. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Which stand do you sit in mate? I'm tempted to waste my good rank by adding Negredo/Ramirez/Traore haha....you got any boro?

        1. uptheboro
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          All three?! Haha. I think Traore is worth the gamble, but I'd wait for the fixtures to turn. I genuinely can't wait to see him against Hull. Ramirez is the reliable points maker. Negredo and Ramirez will benefit from Traore in the team against teams worse than Chelsea.

          West stand, were you there?

          1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Haha I'm not that mad! I fancy us against Lei and Hull then would have to be benched 15&16....Negredo should be out saviour but we re giving him nothing! A more sensible route would be Friend as we look better at that end.
            South with the Faction boys (y)

            1. uptheboro
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              From what I understand, Friend has medial ligament damage and is out for a month. Shame as he was starting to get to grips with things.

              I agree. Think though Bournemouth came here and he looked great against them as we could afford to give him more support. Tough for him against teams Like Chelsea up against three top class CBs

    7. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Is Lukaku out for Kane this week madness, should I just wait one week?

      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thinking the same, price rises needs factoring in?

    8. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Heaton Pickford
      Mustafi Alonso Holebas Evans Amat
      Hazard Firmino Coutinho Snodgrass Allen
      Aguero Lukaku Austin

      A save FT
      B Allen to De Roon
      C Get rid of Lukaku to Costa or Kane

      1. Ambu
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Costa is necessary with that form and those fixtures (after 2 GW)

        1. Concrete
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Cheers

      2. IWR
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thinking Allen to De Roon myself as well.

    9. Ambu
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Which is better as my 3rd striker/ 5th midfielder combo:

      A- Austin and Capoue (no transfers)

      B- Anichebe and Siggy (for -4)

      Thanks

      1. keeney
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        A

      2. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        A

    10. jungle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      How is the LMS score worked out? And does anyone know what it is this week?

        1. jungle
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          wow its much lower than I expected this week. Thank you TM.

    11. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Worth a -4??

      Gundo+Lukaku+Pieters > Sigi+Costa+Kingsley

      Thanks all 🙂

      1. Ambu
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Yes. But Kingsley didn't play last weekend

        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          It would be bench fodder! Last pick

          1. Ambu
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Sounds good in that case

    12. Mr Alex
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Why didn't stones start this weekend? And is he likely to start the next game?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Saved for CL and played twice for England

        1. Mr Alex
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Thanks.

    13. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Best nailed 4.4 defender at the mo?

      1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Nyom Chambers?

      2. Legomane
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Kone

    14. Kanteisking
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Sorry if I missed it by why didn't Stones play? Not even on bench?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Saved for CL and played twice for England

      2. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Pep rotation! And he's been crap!

        1. Concrete
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          He's not been crap for City?

          1. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Ok, he's not been great though at times in my opinion! I'd have played otamendi and kompany over him

    15. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      D.Costa not to rise yet tonight?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        What percent is he on?

    16. Misery Loves Kompany
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      If you had all 3 of Coutinho, Firmino and Mane, which would you captain this week against Sunderland? I realise it's a bit of a lottery but can anyone make a case for one over the others? Got it on Mane at the minute but not decided by any stretch.

      Half tempted to just remove the headache and go for Walcott at home to Bournemouth!

      I'm having my best season in many a year so keen to get this right after this one being a dodgy Gameweek.

      1. keeney
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Coutinho, low ownership of the others makes it less of a risk. (Depending on you ML position) saying that mine is on Mane but i don't own the other two

    17. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      It's going down to the wire in the FFS Cup for me. Who's going to win?
      Me: 4 points
      Opponent: Heaton

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Draw

      2. Swan - Villa Proud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Could come down to rank

      3. Messiah Hazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks guys

    18. FPL Footy Show Pod
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Help a brother out

      A) Cedric, Siggy & Lukaku (-4)

      B) Pieters, Chadli & Costa (-8)

      Tar 🙂

      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        A

      2. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        A

      3. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        You don't need to have Cedric & Lukaku for a -4 this week. They play each other don't they? The second is not worth it because of Pieters.

    19. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      For next 4 gw

      Allen to Philips

      Or

      Lukaku + allen to austin + walcott

      Had lukaku from 9.1, is it worth to lose him now?

    20. AdamB
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Thoughts about Cedric Soares ?
      I need a Shaw replacement for a starting spot with £0.0 itb.

      1. mcrayeps
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Sure

    21. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Which combo should I go for?

      A) Hazard and Beneteke (or another 8m striker)

      B) Kane and Chadli

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        B

    22. Garlana
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Chances chadli playing tomorrow?
      On 40 points atm we chadli to play, will end up with 41 if he doesn't so could be worse.

    23. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Sanchez and Allen > Firmino and Walcott or Siggy?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Keep Sanchez.

        1. The 12th Man
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Allen needs to go. Only 0.5m itb.
          Lukaku could go for Defoe

          1. Parm
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Allen to Zaha.

            1. The 12th Man
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Now there's a thought. Thanks

    24. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Lukaku to Costa

      Yay or nay

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        yay

    25. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      is Walcott to Siggy/Chadli worth it or wait one more week?

      i have Sanchez

    26. DeeGee
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Got 0.3 itb and 1FT th week..

      Pickford Foster
      McAuley Shaw Lovren Amat Holebas
      Hazard Gundogan Coutinho Firmino Allen
      Aguero Costa Austin

      a. Only replace Allen with a sub 5.3, probably Capoue
      b. Allen + Gundogan - > Capoue + sonddy
      c. Austin + Shaw - > Anichebe + Alonso

      What should be the top priority? Get a better def or probably get rid of Allen only for now and roll?

    27. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      When you take a 4 point hit on a Saturday night to afford Harry Kane despite still having 2 PL games, Champions League and Europa League games to come: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxu4hxZXEAAToOy.jpg:large

    28. WhatsInAName
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Guys, thoughts on this WC team?

      Heaton (Pickford)

      Alonso - Cedric - McAuley (Holebas, Amat)

      Hazard - Coutinho - KDB - Firmino (de Roon)

      Defoe - Kane - Austin

      1. mcrayeps
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Kane to costa, is it possible?