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8 January 2012 2975 comments
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Clint Dempsey grabs an FA Cup hat-trick to see off Charlton. Simon Cox also bags three as West Brom get the better of a battling Cardiff, Hatem Ben Arfa scores a superb solo goal in his return to the Newcastle first XI and Harry Redknapp welcomes back a couple of key individuals as Spurs cruise through at the expense of Cheltenham…

Simon Cox
Afforded a mere three starts in the league by Roy Hodgson this season, the Irishman has taken a backseat as countryman Shane Long gets the majority of game time up front alongside Peter Odemwingie. Hodgson sent out a near full-strength side for the home clash with Cardiff and while Odemwingie managed an assist in the 4-2 win, Cox bagged a hat-trick to see off the Welsh club. With Long likely to be sidelined for the next couple of weeks, Cox should get the chance to take his strong form into next weekend’s gameweek 21 home encounter with Norwich.

Simeon Jackson
Paul Lambert started with Simeon Jackson alongside Grant Holt up top for the visit of Burnley, with the former once again preferred to Steve Morison up front. The starting duo grabbed a goal apiece- Jackson’s strike was his third in his last four Norwich appearances. Morison came off the bench midway through the second half and, mirroring his performance at QPR last week, notched a goal as the Canaries cruised to a 4-1 win.

Hatem Ben Arfa
With Demba Ba now absent on international duty for Senegal, Alan Pardew named Ben Arfa in the Newcastle first XI for the first time in seven matches. The last time the Frenchman started was back in the gameweek 14 home defeat by Chelsea and since then, he’d managed a mere 86 minutes prior to yesterday. An outstanding individual effort against Steve Kean’s strugglers brought Ben Arfa back onto the Fantasy radar, with Pardew also affording him the full ninety minutes- something he’s yet to achieve in the league all season. The Newcastle boss was clearly impressed- post-match, he claimed the effort was the “greatest goal” he’d ever seen.

Ryan Taylor
Handed a game on the right flank against Man United due to the absence of Gabriel Obertan, Taylor dropped to the bench yesterday with the winger fully fit to face Blackburn. Alan Pardew once again preferred Davide Santon for the left-back role, with Taylor eventually coming on around the hour mark to replace Danny Simpson at right-back. If the pattern continues, it’s a major worry for his 32.7% Fantasy owners, with Santon now beginning to settle into Pardew’s first-team thinking.

Nathan Dyer
The winger netted for the second game in a row to help Swansea ease to a 4-2 win at Barnsley. Dyer had notched in last weekend’s league triumph at Aston Villa and vindicated Brendan Rodgers’ decision to start him by also providing an assist. Scott Sinclair’s Fantasy owners will be alerted to the fact that he once again was omitted from the first XI, with Wayne Routledge again starting on the flank. Routledge produced a couple of assists, as Sinclair was afforded a late second half cameo. Danny Graham’s brace will boost the forward’s confidence- he had previously netted in just one of his last five league appearances.

Clint Dempsey
A hat-trick from the American earned Fulham a comfortable 4-0 win against Charlton. Martin Jol named a near full-strength first XI for the home clash and Dempsey, one of our top tips for the upcoming gameweeks, warmed up for his favourable run of fixtures with a three-goal haul that takes his recent record to 6 strikes in the last eight games. A trip to Blackburn next weekend looks promising, then.

Michael Dawson
The centre-half made a welcome return to the Tottenham first-team after several months on the sidelines with an Achilles injury. Dawson’s last league game was back in gameweek 3 and his recovery couldn’t come at a better time for Harry Redknapp. With William Gallas ruled out at the back with a torn calf muscle in addition to Ledley King’s hamstring problem, Dawson may well come straight into the first XI for next Wednesday’s league clash with Everton. Aaron Lennon also returned for the 3-0 win over Cheltenham- the winger hadn’t played since gameweek 16 due to a hamstring injury.

Jermain Defoe
Harry Redknapp made plenty of changes for yesterday’s game, with Defoe the sole survivor from Wednesday’s 1-0 win over West Brom. Having notched the only goal in that narrow win over the Baggies, the forward continued his scoring form by grabbing the opener for the London outfit. Emmanuel Adebayor’s Fantasy owners will be hoping Defoe’s scoring run doesn’t prove detrimental to the Togo international’s prospects next Wednesday as Everton roll up to the Lane.

Jonathan Walters
Fifth top-scoring Fantasy midfielder despite picking up a mere 2 assists on the road this season, Walters is clearly someone who prefers home comforts. The Irishman notched a rare effort on the road yesterday afternoon, helping Stoke to come from behind to see off a valiant Gillingham. Robert Huth also served a reminder of his capabilities, nodding home the Potters’ third from a Wilson Palacios corner.

Royston Drenthe
The Dutchman has been absent with illness of late, missing Everton’s last two league games, but returned to action as the Toffees made hard work of a home clash against Tamworth. David Moyes’ side have been struggling for goals and have failed to net more than once in their last seven league games. Their lack of cutting edge continued yesterday and with the game finely balanced at 1-0, Drenthe climbed off the bench to provide an assist for a Leighton Baines spot-kick as the Merseyside club edged through 2-0.

Gabby Agbonlahor
A notable absentee from the Villa starting XI to face Bristol Rovers, Agbonlahor managed a second half sub appearance at the expense of Emile Heskey. There’s little doubt his season has tailed off after a superb start- Agbonlahor had bagged 4 goals in his first seven gameweeks and was shaping up to be an absolute bargain this term but since then he has netted just once. Nevertheless, he seemed a pivotal figure in the Villa team and Alex McLeish’s decision to bench him was something of a surprise. The shock certainly seemed to jolt him out of his recent lethargy, as Agbonlahor grabbed Villa’s second in a 3-1 win.

Ciaran Clark
We mentioned his eye for goal and out-of-position prospects in Friday’s Wildcard Defenders piece and Clark duly obliged, popping up to net his side’s third in the win at Bristol Rovers. Playing in central midfield for most of the game, his versatility was highlighted as he dropped back into the heart of defence after James Collins left the proceedings but that’s five starts in a row now for Clark and he’s looking more pivotal to Villas’ prospects with every passing game.

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  1. Locarno
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    Say what you like about Fergie, he always manages to find world-class keepers. 🙂

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    1. Forest4Life
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      Could have got Lee Camp ahead of De Gea for 2 or 3 million cheaper. Better player and better value

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    2. Kanus hat trick
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      Kuczczak bandwagon?

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  2. Hate that rotation
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    Commentry back.

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  3. msimms89
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    Looks like the picture as well as the commentary might be gone in a minute.

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  4. NATSTER
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    Can anyone help to clarify formation of this team?

    Sunderland: Mignolet, Gardner, O'Shea, Kilgallon, Bardsley, Larsson, Richardson, Cattermole, Vaughan, McClean, Sessegnon.

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      4-3-3 according to ITV

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    2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      O.O

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    3. Chris_White
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      4-5-1(4-2-3-1)?

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    4. Forest4Life
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      Mignolet Bardsley(RB) Oshea/Kil(CB) Richardson(LB) Gardner/Vaughan/Catt(Cm) Larsson and McClean(RW/LW) Sess up front

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      1. NATSTER
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        Thank you very much. It's interesting!

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        1. Forest4Life
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          Your welcome

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    5. NATSTER
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      Where's Sessegnon playing ?

      Sorry to ask. No live coverage in my country.. 🙁

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      1. adziom
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        ...............Mignolet
        Bardsley, O'Shea, Kilgallon, Richardson
        ..Gardner, Vaughan, Cattermole
        Larsson......................McClean
        ...............Sessegnon

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        1. NATSTER
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          Thank you, Adziom. 🙂

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      2. Carl@streetkids.com.au
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        Get some live stream action happening.

        Can't beat it!

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  5. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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    Thought I'd put in my two cents ...

    - Going in to the game, my plans were 3 City, 0 United players. Given United's fixtures and form, I was OK with that, especially given City's next fixtures. The first 45 minutes made me re-think though - Rooney looked lively, while Valencia and Welbeck could be good options. United's momentum was certainly stemmed second half though, and I wouldn't go for defensive options.

    - Is 3 City overkill? I think a defender is essential over the next group of games, but is having both Silva and Aguero necessary? Silva's returns are diminishig slightly. Then again, City looked very good second half considering they had 10 men and could take weaker teams apart.

    - I got Kompany in yesterday, really stupidly, thinking Kompany would go up. So now he'll miss two EPL games - and Richards looks a better WC option. BUT - what are the chances that his red could be rescinded? It wasn't a stone waller anyway.

    Thoughts?

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    1. msimms89
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      There's no way it will be rescinded, it wasn't a red imo but they're trying to cut out tackles like that so it will remain.

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    2. Somalion
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      I'll tell you straight away that the red will not be rescinded and could easily be lengthened as a frivolous appeal.

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      1. jimnastics
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        13 years, 11 months ago

        Exactly, City should leave it alone, rather than risk a 1 game extension on the ban. It'll never get rescinded.

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        1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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          Interesting, seems to be a pretty common consencus on that.

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          1. Somalion
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            Honestly man, it was a two footed challenge with studs showing. They want that type of tacking out because it is potentially dangerous. They'll never turn around and let him away with it when it's the type of tackling they want to cut out.

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            1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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              True, good point.

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        2. Somalion
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          Very foolish I think. I reckon that people's fantasy teams are clouding their judgement on this. The way I see it, he had both feet out and exposing studs. That is potentially dangerous and the ref has to send him off. I know I'm a Utd supporter but I was talking to my dad after the game, who happens to be a City supporter and even he said there was no way the ref could not give him a red for that.

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          1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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            Most ITV pundits seem to think it was harsh though, that was why I was wondering. Still, some of them do talk out of their a*se, Southgate knows what he's talking about though IMO

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            1. Somalion
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              Was listening to them too and honestly couldn't believe the stuff they were saying. If it wasn't a dangerous challenge I'd willingly say they should over turn it but them's the rules. If Nani hadn't jumped over it I wonder what people would be saying?

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    3. Indalo
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      • 14 Years
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      A) red card might be rescinded
      B) Silva is the top scoring midfielder so he is doing something right
      C) Aguero is looking very dangerous and with good fixtures coming up..

      So basically I don't think 3 city is overkill 🙂

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    4. Hate that rotation
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      Aguero is starting to pick up after a little dry patch. Captain material especially at home. Milijias didnt get rescinded.

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    5. ktk_interista
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      united were lucky nothing more than that, city would have mauled them if kompany wasn't red carded. I still wouldn't consider rooney or any expensive defenders in utd...Only Valencia is worth considering ATM. I have Nani but will transfer him out after Bolton game

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        Not sure Utd were lucky, they went 1-0 up with Kompany on the pitch ... Scholes' introduction swung the game though IMO, meaning City dominated the second half.

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    6. Forest4Life
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      3 city aint overkill, Im going 2 city strikers and will get yaya when he returns, Also getting 3 united

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        3 United given their fixtures - Really?! Who?

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        1. The Finnisher
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          Well he has Carrick....ha

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          1. Forest4Life
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            Getting rid of Carrick Nani, Getting Valencia and Smalling

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            1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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              Fair enough ... wouldn't get a defender though, given United's fixtures, they're horrible.

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    7. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      A lot of replies, cheers lads.

      So Silva and Aguero is probably wise, and having United coverage definitely isn't essential. That helped clear things up a bit! Maybe only Valencia is worth looking at.

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    8. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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      3 players from a team seems a lot but you have to remember by getting 1 from each position you are not limiting your options like you would if you, for instance, got two City forwards in. City will win a lot of games, hence they will score goals and to win games they will occasionally need to ground results out so they will keep some clean sheets. I dont think there is any doubt of them finishing top two.

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  6. ktk_interista
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    how many matches will kompany miss? will he miss more than the carling cup game against liverpool?

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      4, including 2 PL.

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      1. ktk_interista
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        how come??? it wasn't even a foul kompany won the ball cleanly. A player like Nani would be 10 mins on the floor rolling and crying and acting if there was a slight touch. The fact that he didn't tell u the whole story. This ref should quit refereeing and join a circus cuz hes a clown

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        1. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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          Well basically because he was sent off.

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        2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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          It's not all about contact, but intent, and the studs / lunging.

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          1. ktk_interista
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            studs weren't lunging. I see tackles worse than this one in almost every pl game. You are being biased 😀

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            1. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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              He went with two feet. Ref sent him. Whether you agree or not, thats the law.

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    2. Somalion
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      4-5, 5 if they deem the appeal to be a waste of time.

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  7. waitinginthelonggrass
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    Senderos in for Kompany and Aguero in for Ade? Both FTs.

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    1. Chris_White
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      Wouldn't get rid of Ade this week

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      1. Cyril Figgis
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        You mean the week Man City plays Wigan?

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    2. Cyril Figgis
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      I'm doing something similar in my WC team, so yeah I would.

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    3. Declan-
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      keep ade for this week i think. I have ade and vdv and in gw 24 im switching to silva and aguero. Spurs have wolves and wigan in next three weeks so i think you should hold on

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  8. The Duke
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    Whats the deal with Stoke keepers?
    Will Sorenson keep his place or will Begovic be back as No.1 ?

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    1. mosch1one
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      Sorenson number 1 ATM.

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  9. Baines on Toast...
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    Is Demba going down tonight? It's -108 now but I'm not sure if it was already sub-100 last night.

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    1. moment
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      Isn't he price protected while at the ACON? I don't really understand how the flags work though.

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      1. Baines on Toast...
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        That's what I thought but everyone was on about how he was going to fall so much on here...

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    2. heartsattack
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      It takes more when they're flagged. Not sure how much more.

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  10. Pratik
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    Please fill in the single blank as I am looking for a defender under 4.9m?
    Vorm, Krul
    Senderos,Clark, Assou-Ekotto, _______, Shotton
    Dempsey, Sessegnon, Mata, Silva, Bale
    Adebayor, Rvp, Yak

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      Caulker, Evans, Simpson

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    2. Declan
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      It'll be hard to drop one of those midfielders

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    3. heartsattack
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      Bardsley or Santon.

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    4. The Duke
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      Caulker

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    5. Telly
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      Taylor from swansea or simpson from New.

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    6. Forest4Life
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      SANTON

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  11. What is love? Robin Van Per…
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    W/C Team .. any thoughts are appreciated
    Vorm / Mignolet
    Shotton / Caulker / Richards/ Enrique / Williamson
    Silva / Dempsy/ Nani / Bale / McClean
    Aguero / Graham / RVP

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    1. JW10
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      like it

      my top 8 is the same except got Ben Arfa in place of McClean

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    2. heartsattack
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      I have the same front three. What formation are you planning to use?

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    3. Cyril Figgis
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      Graham and McClean? So you going 4-4-2? I would downgrade Richards and upgrade Graham to Yak.

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  12. Declan
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    Rate this generic WC team?

    Vorm Mignolet
    Simpson Kompany Enrique Cahill Senderos
    VDV Silva Dempsey Surman Sess
    RVP Aguero Yak

    .2m in bank

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  13. BootlegRascal
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    Thoughts?

    Krul/Mignolet (rotation)
    Senderos , Evans , Santon (Shotton, Caulker)
    Gerrard , Bale , Sessegnon , Dempsey (McEachran)
    Aguero, RVP, Torres

    Rotation through defence dependant on fixtures.
    I feel I have good variety here with atleast one player from each of the top 7 (soon to be 8 in Sunderland), aswell as Dempsey who is always a good pickup. I'm very aware Torres is a risk, but hey, if it pays off who'll be laughing then? Probably you cause it won't but anyway.

    Got McEachran sitting as 3rd sub as he is cheap and likely to go out on loan and could be a useful 5th midfielder if he plays regularly.

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    1. BootlegRascal
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      OR Team B
      Krul/Mignolet (rotation)
      Senderos , Richards , Santon (Shotton, Caulker)
      Van der Vaart , Mata , Bale , Sessegnon , Dempsey (McEachran)
      Aguero, RVP

      3-5-2

      Mata just scored (haha) and with his recent form and Tottenhams impending games vs Wolves and Wigan I couldn't help putting them Rafa and him in

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    2. BootlegRascal
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      OR Team B
      Krul/Mignolet (rotation)
      Senderos , Richards , Santon (Shotton, Caulker)
      Van der Vaart , Mata , Bale , Sessegnon , Dempsey (McEachran)
      Aguero, RVP

      3-5-2

      Mata just scored (haha) and with his recent form and Tottenhams impending games vs Wolves and Wigan I couldn't help putting Rafa and him in

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  14. Mr Smith
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    Valencia or Dempsey if WCing?

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    1. Chris_White
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      Valencia if you don't have Utd cover elsewhere - if you do, Dempsey.

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    2. I need a miracle
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      Apart from today they seem to be playing Vance at the back, and his performance was ok, Fergie may keep him in mid so good choice I think.
      More dangerous than Nani if he can guarantee his place.

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      1. The Finnisher
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        He has only been right back when Smalling has been out, if you're a United fan I really hope you knew that..

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    3. Mulder
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      Both

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    4. Corrigan
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      Dempsey has way more goal threat and better fixtures. Go for him, though Valencia is a decent shout.

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  15. Indalo
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    Seems like most people feel it won't get rescinded... I'm not giving up hope yet though 🙂

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  16. viewoftheland
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    A GW22 WC. Two options. Which do people prefer

    A:

    Vorm Krul
    Richards, Enrique, A Ferdinand, McAuley, Santon
    Silva, Dempsey, Bale, Sess, Moses
    Aguero, Ade, RVP

    OR

    B:

    Vorm Krul
    Senderos, Santon, A Ferdinand, McAuley, Brown
    Silva, Dempsey, Bale, Sess, Moses
    Aguero, RVP Rooney

    Cheers folks

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    1. Jonny
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      • 13 Years
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      a

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    2. The Duke
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      Would have to be B for me mate!

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    3. moment
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      Like them both, prefer A, too many shortcuts in defense in B to get that ridic front line.

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      1. viewoftheland
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        I think Im leaning A wards, been getting very frustrated with lack of any defensive returns. But am scared of a Man U run, and A leaves me with no cover. I've had Nani twice this season, and have only had 1 decent return from him, so thats why Ive cast my glances at Rooney.

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        1. viewoftheland
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          Hmm, actually, I might go B while Ba is at ACON, take a chance, then if its all going wrong, have a mini WC to bring him in for the underperforming big gun, and upgrade defence then.

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  17. Jonny
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    • 13 Years
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    hi all, got to catch up about 100 points so need a lot of differentials to what i would usually have
    RMWCT (1.5 in bank)

    Vorm, Schezeny
    Enrique, Senderos, Kompany, Cahill, Simpson
    Sess, Walters, Moses, VDV, Dempsey
    Helguson, Aguero, RVP

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  18. Dr Bronner
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    Can I just remind everyone, United were 1-0 up before Kompany got sent off, we were going to win it anyway.

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    1. I need a miracle
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      Thats what I said, I think Utd slowed because they thought they had it in the bag.
      Never take your foot off the pedal when playin city - at any time.

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      1. Mílanista
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        • 14 Years
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        There's no nice way of saying this but you're both idiots. There was 80 minutes to go.

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        1. The Finnisher
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          +1000000

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        2. Dr Bronner
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          Oh for sure, I am admittedly being quite flippant as I'm enjoying the aftermath of our win but we still had the advantage - city were playing well before that goal - they had the upperhand until we scored - after that anything could happen, but at 1-0 up you'd expect us to win.

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      WUM

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      1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
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        yup

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    3. Jonny
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      • 13 Years
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      we didnt need to try, i mean we brought scholes on

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    4. adziom
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      United were beaten 2-0 over 45 minutes by a Man City side without Hart, K Toure, Y Toure, Silva, Balotelli or Kompany. The game wasn't won after 12 minutes. It wasn't even won after 89 minutes.

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      1. Dr Bronner
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        Well, that's different circumstances - City were completely galvanised with 10 men and it happened twice in the game, for about 10 minutes straight after the card and after their first goal. There is no doubting city outplayed us in the second half but I doubt that would have happened if they hadn't had kompany sent off - it completely changed the game, if we hadn't got our goals the sending off would have actually been bad for us.

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        1. Kanus hat trick
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          They completely outplayed Utd in the opening 10 minutes as well. I think if you ask most teams whether they would rather play 11 v 11 or 10 v 11 they'd pick the former!!

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      2. Telly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        And Citeh were 1-0 down then went 3-0 down in the first half where United didn't have Vidic, Evans, Cleverly, Young or Hernandez. Face up to life - you're out of the FA Cup and have been beatne by United twice this year. A great year for City is leading the league by 3 points and going out of the CL. A bad year for united is going out of the CL, knocking city out of the FA cup, winning the Charity Shield and being 3 points behind City from the top of the league. Different expectations!

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Sorry but this is just utter bollocks.
          Vidic? Sure, but City had no Kompany
          Evans? He was on the bench fit enough to play - obviously SAF thought Jones was the better option
          Clevery? Are you forgetting Yaya?
          Valencia and Welbeck are better then Young, that's like saying City had no Dzeko and had Aguero instead, a decent player but wouldn't improve by replacing who was there to begin with..

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        2. Dr Bronner
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          and we have spent f all money! I'm glad you bring up the injuries, I can't think of a top team losing so many players to injury like we have, a couple of weeks ago we didn't have 1 fit defender, we've lost our main centre back, we lost two of our best midfielders to injury, our keeper retired, scholes retired.

          What angers me the most is, I expect all this nonsense from the city fans but it's everyone, they can't bare to give us a break.

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          1. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            man utd had a very strong starting 11 today. and their dad is bigger than man city's dad

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        3. Kanus hat trick
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          If you're missing Evans and Cleverley (who has made 5 appearances for the club) then u really are in trouble!!

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      3. Samwise the Brave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Kolo doesn't start, Kompany got himself sent off, mancini chose to take silva off andas for botelli not playing thay paid 25million for his replacement in nasri so you can't complain about quality thier

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    5. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Of course you were...

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    6. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      lol

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    7. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Lol who said City have suddenly become sh*t? Still the team to beat is city. Its city's to lose.

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      1. Bolt-on
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        +1

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    8. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Congratulations, you only just beat City who had 10 men, a reserve keeper and 3 of their best players not player for 45+ minutes

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      1. Hakuho FPL
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        so whats ur point JACKOFF? It was mancini decision to make those player changes u fool, I would be an ass to say manutd didnt have vidic, young, de gea, rafael etc

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          You would be an ass, because besides Vidic they are all shit?
          And Mancini didn't make the decision to have no Kompany or Yaya 🙄

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      2. Hakuho FPL
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        and so what id they had 10 men on the pitch that like saying barca only beat real madrid and arsenal in the champ league because they have 10 men on the pitch (you make no sense), a two footed tackle dont deserve a red? you really are a jackoff!!!!

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          What are you talking about?
          I know they had 10 men, whether the card was deserved or not is another thing that isn't relevant. All I am saying is don't have a willy sneeze because you beat a 10 man City. A win is a win, but there is no need for people to say "we were going to win anyway" when its bullshit, anything could have happened.
          You just need to go calm down.

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          1. Samwise the Brave
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            I agree Jackoff, although utd were a goal up it was completely against the run of play and the game could still hav gone either way. But in regard to Triniweb's point about players united had no vidic,young etc (even if you class them as crap they were inj and not available while city choose to rest hart,take silva off although the toures are differnet he spent millions on back up e.g. nasri. they is still a long way to go but if city were to play utd 2moro I'd expect a city win (I'm a UTD fan btw)

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            1. Hakuho FPL
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              +1000000000000000

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  19. adziom
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Wait so for committing a foul that was very arguably violent conduct, and then putting forward an ambitious, but not ridiculous appeal, and for it being his second sending off this season, Kompany could end up with a 5 match domestic ban? That's only 3 away from Luis Suarez who got found guilty of racially abusing an opponent....

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    1. Dr Bronner
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      does anyone actually get an extra ban for appealing? I thought that would only happen if the red was so obvious it was wasting their time

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Ferdinand got an extra match for a ''frivoulous' appeal a while back.

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Only 3 away, or - to put it another way - almost half as much.

      See what I did there? 🙂

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    3. Voyeur
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I'd argue it would be a ridiculous appeal. If Nani had his feet on the ground, it would've been a leg-breaker. Red card.

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    4. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      One of the problems with the system I think. I don't have any time for racism but the way I see it is violent conduct is worse because you could potentially harm someone a great deal. I don't like Suarez but I feel 8 matches for that when violent conduct is less is unfair.

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  20. What is love? Robin Van Per…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    How nailed on is Kelly??

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      He's virtually Jesus Christ.

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      1. Hotrod
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        😀

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        He's not the Messiah - he's just a very naughty boy! 😉

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      3. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        😆

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      4. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Hahaha brilliant 😀

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      5. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        oh.. on the sabbath day too...

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      6. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        i can take banter as much as the next person, but thats just uncalled for imo. what an idiotic comment.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          No Methodism in your madness, then ... ? 😉

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          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            lol,well, not really, i just try and leave jesus jokes out of stuff, im no bible basher by any means, must just be having a sensitive day, just a daft comment i reckon.

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            1. Locarno
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              Yeah, no, you're totally right. I apologise.

              Wanna hear a joke that finishes with "I can see my house from here!"???

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    2. I need a miracle
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      At a guess percentage wise, taking into account his blinding performance last GW and he has played the last 3 games without rest about 98%

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  21. I need a miracle
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Sunderland seem to be struggling lol

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    1. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I would love it if Posh beat them, just to see MON's face

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      1. I need a miracle
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        What a result that would be, look at his face now lol

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        1. CRAZY TRAIN
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          🙂

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  22. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    A lot of Valencia about today....

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    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      "Valencia Love"

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    2. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      He's a good player, good for coverage and decent for the odd assist.

      But there are better alternatives with better fixtures.

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  23. Qubit
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Hmmm, think ill come back when theres some fantasy football to talk about.

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      If you'd like, you could RMWCT ... 😀

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        ... or mine, just doing a reincarnation ... 😉

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  24. the axolotl
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    mcclean hits post. looks a player

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    1. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Gonna be my cheap midfield option me thinks

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        He'll be picked up by the 2,000 people on this site and the odd Sunderland fan. Could be a great differential on the rest of the world who have never heard of him.

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        1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          yup, me inc

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      2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        +2

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      3. the axolotl
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        i've sessegnon already tho, think it would be too much to double up.

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        1. CRAZY TRAIN
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Looking at him more as a cheaper alternative. A midfield of Bale Silva Valencia Dempsey and McClean looks very satisfying right now

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        2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          +3

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  25. CRAZY TRAIN
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    McLean looking good. Just struck a corcker of a shot against the crossbar

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    1. I need a miracle
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      McClean will come good, I hope. I have kept him sub for now awaiting result of this game to strike.

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  26. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Would it be unwise not to have Bale in my WC team? Thinking of having Dempsey instead.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Very, imo. Particularly if you've made money on him, as I have ...

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    2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Try and get both in?

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    3. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yes even with Fixs, He is the only must have mid/ Striker imo

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  27. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Hmmm ... back to plan A ... back to Rooney.

    Bye, bye Nani ... bye, bye sweet caress ... I think I'm gonna cry ...

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    1. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      forget the niceties....just give him a good boot up the 'arris and show him the exit door

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    2. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQJPL9Yuq0

      I feel this is apt due to the whole Nani = MJ thing.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        😆 Be even better if I could stand MJ ... 😉

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          RACIST!!! You'll burn for this Doosra 😛

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      May I suggest a fine South American export...

      Antonio Valencia

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  28. matthewhagon
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Is McClean gonna be a regular starter?? Cheaper option to sess

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        so sess and mcclean clean?
        sorry, just love that song 😛

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      2. The Milkman
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        No guarantee of McClean keeping his place but he's cheap enough to gamble on. Sess is playing as a striker so is well worth it!

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    • bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      City have officially proven to me that they're the best team in the PL and they're sure to win it! Such great effort in the 2nd half.

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        You lost though ... 😉

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        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          That is true but the 2nd half performance was awesome and with a bit more luck we couldve easily have equalised in injury time.

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        By James Milner.

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        1. Corrigan
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          +1 Milner was great.

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      3. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        you lost, the world moves on

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        1. Oi! Shadders!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          He's proud of his team. What's the problem?

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      4. jimnastics
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Honestly, how moronic are City fans? You lost the game, you're out of the FA Cup in the 1st round. Get over it.

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Sorry but what do you mean get over it?
          He clearly has gotten over it.

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        2. Oi! Shadders!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Your comment is far more moronic. He doesn't seem better, and I would agree that City are in general the best team in the country. Not sure how anyone can take offence with his statement.

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          1. Oi! Shadders!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            *bitter

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      5. Hate that rotation
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Officially the best team in PL should win the league to earn that right. Its in your hands, you are the favourites. Lets see what happens......

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      6. I need a miracle
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I thought united took there foot off the pedal and made a few mistakes, but played some good football.
        City will really try and get the PL in the bag now.

        Game On.

        Rooooooooooooneyyyyyyyyyyy

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        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          So yet again Rooney has in the space of 90 minutes gone from being a dud to being a world beater again.....

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          1. I need a miracle
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Ive always rated rooney - (since he came to utd) lol

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          2. bdwhite91
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Haha thanks, Jack. It was a great match. Proud to be a City fan win or lose. Nearly did it with 10 on 12. United got killed with 10, and Jonny Evans isn't anywhere near the loss we had in Kompany.

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    • nandosss
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      my wildcard team, any advice please….

      vorm, krul
      enrique, bae, simpson, evans, caulker
      silva, valencia, bale, dempsey, moses
      sturridge, rvp, ade

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      1. I need a miracle
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Strong team,
        Just see how Vance does in next gameweek, particularly what position he is playin, it may force a free trani.

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