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10 August 2017 2682 comments
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In the words of Cockney prophets Chas & Dave: ‘Spurs are on their way to Wembley, Tottenham’s going to do it again’.

This season, in a move that even a dreaming Ossie Ardiles might tire of, they’ll be on their way to Wembley many more times than usual to fulfil 19 Premier League home fixtures while their new stadium is being built.

And the fear is that what Tottenham’s going to be doing again is struggle.

The precedents are not good – West Ham suffered when they moved into their new home last season, while Spurs lost two and drew one of their four European matches at Wembley in 2016/17.

A strong second-place finish last campaign, fuelled by key assets Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen, would usually demand our Fantasy attention.

But will the move to Wembley change all that? Will it prompt a right old Knees Up or a case of Ain’t No Pleasing You?

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the fourth of this season’s Burning Questions: Is the Wembley factor really a concern when considering Spurs’ assets?

Peter Kouwenberg (Hall of Fame #1) Says…

A confession: I was one who skippered Kane for the Hull City and Burnley blanks last December before a rare rage-transfer out – just in time to ‘enjoy’ his festive haul of six goals in four matches.

I also became something of an expert throughout the season at swapping Eriksen in and out for Alli, just in time to miss each other’s goals and assists, before finally admitting defeat and bringing in all three players.

As a result, I am the last person qualified to comment on Spurs.

Much has been written about why they do, and may continue to, struggle at Wembley and if I was a Spurs fan, I probably would be a little bit nervous about this.

However, I would be far more fearful of not having Kane in my team, with a match away at newly promoted Newcastle and a home fixture against Burnley sandwiching the Chelsea clash.

I agree that there are viable alternatives – the Manchester City strikers and new boys Alvaro Morata and Alexandre Lacazette could all justify excluding Kane – but I’ll be riding out the first three games at least, after which the fixtures suggest it would be a brave or foolish player not to have at least one Spurs attacker.

Where I think the Wembley wariness will influence me is in not trebling up from the off. Alli was the first name on my first draft team sheet and I still think he (and Eriksen) could continue where they left off last season.

However, wagering over a quarter of my £100m budget on Spurs (including the injured Kieran Trippier) to beat their Wembley hoodoo may be a gamble too far.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

I believe that playing at Wembley for 19 home matches will make a difference, but how much this will affect the Spurs players is impossible to tell.

We simply don’t have a decent sample size of data to confirm how much of a factor Wembley will be. What we do know is that Spurs won 21 of 23 matches played at White Hart Lane last season across all competitions, and you would expect this will be difficult to match this time around.

Given Harry Kane is the most expensive player in FPL, at £12.5m, you have to take into account all factors when fielding a player who uses up such a significant portion of our budget. Playing at Wembley is one such factor.

Kane is England’s number one striker. He’s played at Wembley on a number of occasions, so we’re not talking about a novice with a complete unfamiliarity of his surroundings. What also works in Kane’s favour is that he is a nailed-on starter for Spurs so there is no rotation risk around him.

I believe that in considering Spurs’ assets, you have to play it by ear. What you can hang your hat on is that last season in the Premier League, Spurs had the joint-best goal difference at home and the best goal difference away. This tells you that they’re a very well-balanced team with FPL options across all positions.

They’ve earned the right for us to ignore the Wembley aspect to begin with, particularly with their favourable opening schedule.

But we might need to re-visit the issue once we have more evidence and information.

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

Stadium moves generally negatively affect performance.

Couple this with Spurs, and Kane in particular, being slow starters and there should be caution around their prized assets.

The 6-1 and 7-1 maulings they handed out in the spring were nearly three months ago. Their form – and that of all the other teams – is re-set for the new season and no-one has half an eye on the beach anymore.

I feel Spurs are less likely to win the title this season. Today’s Danny Rose story is symptomatic of the frustration at the club, with some players concerned that rivals have strengthened so much while their only business has made them weaker, ie losing Kyle Walker.

Then again, I’m open to the possibility of my thoughts deriving from confirmation bias.

Pretending Spurs have no options saves a lot of money and makes picking a team easier. There is a stadium move, but they’ve played there before so it’s not completely new. Kane hasn’t scored in August before, but that could mean he’ll score three months worth of goals this August to average it out.

Then there’s Eriksen and Alli who, as a rule, score more points each year. Even if they get ‘only’ this season, I don’t want to be missing out on that.

At the start you can only have so many top players. The tactic I generally use is to see what factors rule players out rather than in. I think Wembley is a big enough concern to put Spurs on hold for now.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

My theory when it comes to Spurs and the ‘Wembley factor’ is that their recent malaise there has less to do with the size of the pitch or the unfamiliar surroundings and much more to do with the fact that it is simply ‘Wembley’.

The venue is synonymous with ‘an occasion’ and, for the visiting teams and their fans, fixtures there take on a cup final atmosphere, irrespective of their actual significance. As a result, Spurs’ opponents typically bring along a larger, louder following and their players raise their game accordingly.

If this is true, then Spurs may have 19 ‘cup finals’ on their hands next season and this could, of course, impact on their players’ performances.

Though I expect Spurs to eventually adapt to their new surroundings and the greater pressure that comes with them, I might be concerned about their results early on in the season.

I’m less concerned, however, with the impact on Spurs as an attacking force.

Even if the results aren’t going their way, I think their usual suspects of Kane, Alli and Eriksen will still find opportunities to score.

The atmosphere might even work in their favour at times, with opposing teams less inclined to ‘park the bus’ in front of a more vociferous than usual away following.

So, while I might avoid their defence for a few Gameweeks at least, I’ll still be backing their attacking assets.

Jonty Says…

Spurs were an unstoppable force at White Hart Lane last season, racking up more shots than any home side and scoring 47 times – a tally only bettered by Chelsea.

In defence, they conceded just nine times in front of their own fans and kept 12 clean sheets – another two records for their 2016/17 stats cabinet.

Given that they effectively play 38 away matches this season, due to Wembley being their temporary home, the theory is that this fine record will suffer.

Leading the charge in pushing this theory are those that study pitch sizes. They will point out that, at 100 x 67 metres, White Hart Lane had the second smallest Premier League pitch last season and Spurs players may struggle to adjust to the extra space afforded by Wembley’s gigantic 105 x 69 metres (7,245 ) of turf.

West Ham’s travails after their move to a larger pitch at the London Stadium last season further strengthen this ‘groundsman’s argument’.

Then there’s Spurs’ track record at Wembley – a stadium where last season they were beaten by Monaco, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea and could only secure a draw against Belgian team KAA Gent. In fact, CSKA Moscow were the only side they managed to beat at the home of English football last season.

But I’m still not buying into the Wembley effect.

The key is that, in Kane, they have a player looking to win the Golden Boot for the third consecutive season and who still scored 12 goals on the road last season – with only Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero scoring more.

In addition, their away record was superb – suggesting the tight White Hart Lane pitch is not needed for success. On the road they conceded a mere 16 times- another record – and scored 39, which was only bettered by Manchester City.

If Spurs fail to replicate 2016/17’s form, it won’t be due to playing at Wembley. It will arguably be more to do with their failure to impress in the transfer market, where they have lost one of their best players in full-back Walker and have been forced to watch in envy as their rivals strengthen.

Paul Says…

Due to Spurs’ tactics under Mauricio Pochettino, I don’t think you can rule out the Wembley issue altogether, or at least in the very early stages.

Spurs play such a high-pressing game that, with more ground and space to cover in their new home, there’s a possibility that energy levels could drop later in matches and they might not be able to close down opponents quite so effectively.

That’s essentially a fitness factor and one that their manager will presumably address by ensuring that Spurs’ levels are even greater than before. It could initially have an impact but, as the season unfolds and the players up their match fitness and become more accustomed to Wembley, I can’t see it being an issue.

Kane’s minutes per away goal last season – which was almost identical to Romelu Lukaku’s at home – underlines that he’s far from reliant on White Hart Lane. At present, he’s the only Spurs player I own as I feel he’s unparalleled as a captaincy pick.

Elsewhere, you can also point to the fact that Alli had more big chances away from home than any FPL midfielder last season. Eriksen, meanwhile, sat first for shots and key passes, and his penchant for efforts from distance is unlikely to be quenched.

Defensively, I’m going to steer clear of Spurs for now and see if they can maintain the same levels of resilience as last season.

But with Burnley, Swansea City and Bournemouth three of their first four visitors, the opening schedule should allow them to settle and give us time to assess any possible Wembley impact.

Mark Says…

While they have been conspicuous by their absence in the transfer market, in many ways it was difficult to strengthen Pochettino’s first XI and, under normal circumstances I’d reluctantly be installing Spurs as title favourites.

But the Wembley factor has to be a consideration and, coupled with the sudden unrest in the camp following Rose’s outburst today, I do have escalating concerns about their prospects.

The pitch size and sense of occasion created by the stadium move is less of a factor than the morale issues for me.

I worry that, with a ready-made excuse for a reduced title bid, the mood in the camp could suddenly plummet further.

One of the main reasons for Spurs’ success last season was the fact that they came across as the most unified and spirited of teams.

But cracks are now appearing and I do feel that the re-location will compound matters.

Having said that, I am still struggling to overlook Kane.

Based on last season’s output, he is peerless as a captain option and while there is explosivity and possibly consistency on offer from Romelu Lukaku and Gabriel Jesus, they are for my money still giving chase to Kane for these qualities .

So Kane will likely get the nod for me, regardless of my concerns.

However, I am unlikely to back him with Eriksen or Alli for fear of over-investment in a side perhaps on the verge of a transition – both in terms of venue and, perhaps, mentality and confidence.

  1. OneDennisBergkamp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Nailed wing-backs? So far I know of:
    Marcos Alonso
    Victor Moses
    James Milner
    Kieran Trippier
    Danny Rose
    Hector Bellerin
    Kyle Walker
    Antonio Valencia
    Ryan Bertrand

    1. Am I missing anyone?
    2. Are any of these wrong?

    1. Ibracadabra
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Milner not nailed I don't think.

    2. chaboi1998
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      remove bellerin trippier milner. add PVA

    3. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Milner Trippier Rose Bellerin not nailed

      1. Alan_T
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Why ain't Tipp nailed?

    4. DAZZ
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      PVA

    5. Spartac Mac
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Nice idea for a post but c'mon mate. The season hasn't even started yet, we know zilch aha.

      1. OneDennisBergkamp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        So Valencia not a nailed wing back?

    6. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Patrick van Aanholt is one but I'm not 100% sure he's nailed

    7. OneDennisBergkamp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Based on feedback updated list...

      Nailed:
      Marcos Alonso
      Victor Moses
      Kieran Trippier
      Kyle Walker
      Antonio Valencia
      Ryan Bertrand

      Not Nailed (Doubts):
      James Milner
      Hector Bellerin
      Danny Rose
      PVA

      Any more comments?

  2. chaboi1998
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Not template. But huge potential.

    DDG (Elliott)
    Kompany - Kola - Berty - PVA - (hune)
    KDB - Erik - Willian - (Atsu) - (TC)
    Kaku - Firm - King

    G2G?

  3. WE ARE RANGERS
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Haha, pages are just flying off the boards on her. Not coming near this place tomorrow, good luck everyone 🙂

    1. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Good post of yours that got bottomed at last page, though. Good luck!

  4. RubeRx
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    This forum is quickly turning into an animal shelter for lost puppies.... too many questions, not enough answers....

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      But why ?

  5. Tellloth
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Have I sacrificed too much to do the three up front?

    Foster (Elliot)

    Trippier Suttner Lascelles (Mee) (Rangel)

    KDB Salah Ritchie Loftus-Cheek (Carroll)

    Kane Laca Lukaku

  6. mcgrejam
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Apologies, lost from bottom of page

    Rate my team please

    De Gea
    Alonso,Yoshida,Stones
    Zaha,Willian,Atsu,De Bruyne,Mane
    Jesus,Lukaku

    Subs - Elliott,Rangel,Hunemeier,Quaner

    Forget the subs - starting team any good?

  7. InSaneMan-e
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any arsenal fans here? Any idea if Kolasinac is nailed

  8. DAZZ
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    KDB, Aguero, Kompany. Ridiculous or not?

    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Not at all

    2. Bird Raymond
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'm on Danilo, KDB and Jesus so hopefully not!

    3. Citytilidie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Not at all. I'm on the same with Aguero getting the armband.

  9. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Just became a member 🙂

  10. Galza
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Not seeing as much Gabbi in everyone's teams as yesterday. People finally coming to there senses... 🙂

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      haha i included him as an option below, have any thoughts?

      1. Galza
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Scars still healing....

  11. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Pages racing by so condensed this, Option A or B below? Or would you change it at all?

    DDG
    Dunk - Kompany - Kola - Yoshida
    Carroll - Alli - KDB - Salah
    Kane - Jesus
    __________________________________
    Elliot: RLC, Gomez, McBurnie

    Yep bench is garbage, possible early WC anyway though.

    A) Alli + RLC > Mikh/Zaha/Willian + Ritchie

    B) Alli + McBurnie > Zaha/Willian/Zaha + Gabbiadini

    ANY help would be appreciated.

    1. hogree
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'd stick mate. Alli is actually quite a nice differential to most of the big players on here now, seeming less and less common. So use him 🙂

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Cool, cheers mate, i really do want to keep Alli as well, just thought i may be covering less of a risk swapping him, may very well keep him though cheers man.

    2. Legomane
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'd avoid a 4.5 fwd. I've come to the conclusion it's better to have a couple of 4.5 playing mids than one duff striker on the bench.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        trye, but literally nobody other than maybe Gabbi grabs attention, will be wc'ing early anyway, it's cool, thanks anyway man.

        1. Legomane
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          King is nice option for first couple of weeks. Gabbi isn't too bad either.

    3. Galza
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A with Mikhi

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers Galza! 🙂

  12. laoshi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) Salah + .5 itb or

    B) Alli/Eriksen

    Have Kane and no other Liverpool cover

    Thanks!

    1. Legomane
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mané

  13. Legomane
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Who do you think will be the top scoring £4.5m 'nailed on' defenders for this season? Listed a few below - please add any I've missed and give me your top 5!

    Mee
    Dunk
    Suttner
    Simpson
    Francis
    Prödl
    Löwe
    Lejeune
    Naughton
    Fosu-Mensah

    1. Big Sum
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Löwe

  14. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Chances of fosu mensah starting?

  15. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    1. Foster
    Kompany • Bertrand • Daniels
    KDB • Willian • Zaha • JWP
    Kane • Lukaku • Firmino

    2. Foster
    Kompany • Yoshida • Daniels
    KDB • Willian • Mane • Atsu
    Kane • Lukaku • Hernandez/Gabbi

  16. Alexis Nonsense
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Need a 100% nailed defender at 4.5

    Short term

    1. KISSES
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Suttner

    2. Bird Raymond
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      One of the 'Udders defenders?

  17. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    So guys.. Pied only costs 4.5 and is starting in the team news section

    I think we've been analysing the wrong soton player this whole time

    1. KISSES
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      not nailed

    2. Prison Mike
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Isn't Cedric back now?

      1. Greenbackbøøg…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        back from what?

        1. Puyol Pants Up
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Confederations cup, he had an extended break and that's why Pied might start GW 1.

  18. KISSES
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Milivojevic still an option considered he is CB?

  19. Licky
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Will the scout picks be out tonight or tomorrow?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Tomorrow with a late kick off I think.

      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks TM.

  20. Pep's Money Laundry
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Lascelles or any other newcastle defender nailed on?

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Dummett most likely to be nailed. Manquillo should play until Yedlin is fit. Centre backs is two from Clark, Lejeune and Lascelles.

  21. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    So this is how it feels being rebel 😎

    #nolukaku#sheeps

    1. KISSES
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      silly

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      same here haha!

    3. Legomane
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Get yourself s box of tissues mate, going to be a painful weekend 😎

    4. El Lobito 10
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      He is a donkey. I'm going without. Jesus much better.

  22. JaydenLFC87
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    What % on here to people think Alexander-Arnold will start against watford??

    1. KISSES
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      55%

    2. El Lobito 10
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      70

    3. LouieM97
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      100% mate

  23. Lukakuna
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Bertrand, KDB, Willian, Kane

    or

    Valencia, Alli, Sane, Laca

    ??

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      First one

  24. El Lobito 10
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Is a wing back like Kolasinac, Alonso or Walker essential?

  25. CostaCoffee
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) KDB Salah Kane
    B) Mané Eriksen Lukaku
    C) KDB Mané Lukaku (No Spurs

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

  26. chaboi1998
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Most useful tool as a paying member?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Big numbers if you are lazy.

  27. Milner4eva
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Aguero or Jesus?

    1. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      "Hayzeus"

    2. Citytilidie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Sergiooooo

  28. CostaCoffee
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) KDB Salah Kane
    B) Mané Eriksen Lukaku
    C) KDB Mané Lukaku (No Spurs))

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. Galza
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'd go A

  29. F4L
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Any big news from todays pressers?

  30. G-Whizz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    No no no no no!

    It's pronounced "Hayzeus" not "Jesus" 😆

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Jesus Jesus Jesus

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        lol

    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      no it's not, it's not spanish... the J is pronounced like 'zh' in portuguese...

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        I know it's not Spanish but been listening to the BBC South American Football correspondant and that's how he pronounces it.

        Hold on "Zh" you say? Maybe I need to clean me ears out 😆

      2. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        "Zheyzeus"

        Is that it?