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10 August 2017 2682 comments
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In the words of Cockney prophets Chas & Dave: ‘Spurs are on their way to Wembley, Tottenham’s going to do it again’.

This season, in a move that even a dreaming Ossie Ardiles might tire of, they’ll be on their way to Wembley many more times than usual to fulfil 19 Premier League home fixtures while their new stadium is being built.

And the fear is that what Tottenham’s going to be doing again is struggle.

The precedents are not good – West Ham suffered when they moved into their new home last season, while Spurs lost two and drew one of their four European matches at Wembley in 2016/17.

A strong second-place finish last campaign, fuelled by key assets Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen, would usually demand our Fantasy attention.

But will the move to Wembley change all that? Will it prompt a right old Knees Up or a case of Ain’t No Pleasing You?

We canvas the opinion of some leading Fantasy Premier League managers and Fantasy Football Scout staff to ask for their verdict on the fourth of this season’s Burning Questions: Is the Wembley factor really a concern when considering Spurs’ assets?

Peter Kouwenberg (Hall of Fame #1) Says…

A confession: I was one who skippered Kane for the Hull City and Burnley blanks last December before a rare rage-transfer out – just in time to ‘enjoy’ his festive haul of six goals in four matches.

I also became something of an expert throughout the season at swapping Eriksen in and out for Alli, just in time to miss each other’s goals and assists, before finally admitting defeat and bringing in all three players.

As a result, I am the last person qualified to comment on Spurs.

Much has been written about why they do, and may continue to, struggle at Wembley and if I was a Spurs fan, I probably would be a little bit nervous about this.

However, I would be far more fearful of not having Kane in my team, with a match away at newly promoted Newcastle and a home fixture against Burnley sandwiching the Chelsea clash.

I agree that there are viable alternatives – the Manchester City strikers and new boys Alvaro Morata and Alexandre Lacazette could all justify excluding Kane – but I’ll be riding out the first three games at least, after which the fixtures suggest it would be a brave or foolish player not to have at least one Spurs attacker.

Where I think the Wembley wariness will influence me is in not trebling up from the off. Alli was the first name on my first draft team sheet and I still think he (and Eriksen) could continue where they left off last season.

However, wagering over a quarter of my £100m budget on Spurs (including the injured Kieran Trippier) to beat their Wembley hoodoo may be a gamble too far.

Uwais Ahmed (FPL Runner-Up 2016/17) Says…

I believe that playing at Wembley for 19 home matches will make a difference, but how much this will affect the Spurs players is impossible to tell.

We simply don’t have a decent sample size of data to confirm how much of a factor Wembley will be. What we do know is that Spurs won 21 of 23 matches played at White Hart Lane last season across all competitions, and you would expect this will be difficult to match this time around.

Given Harry Kane is the most expensive player in FPL, at £12.5m, you have to take into account all factors when fielding a player who uses up such a significant portion of our budget. Playing at Wembley is one such factor.

Kane is England’s number one striker. He’s played at Wembley on a number of occasions, so we’re not talking about a novice with a complete unfamiliarity of his surroundings. What also works in Kane’s favour is that he is a nailed-on starter for Spurs so there is no rotation risk around him.

I believe that in considering Spurs’ assets, you have to play it by ear. What you can hang your hat on is that last season in the Premier League, Spurs had the joint-best goal difference at home and the best goal difference away. This tells you that they’re a very well-balanced team with FPL options across all positions.

They’ve earned the right for us to ignore the Wembley aspect to begin with, particularly with their favourable opening schedule.

But we might need to re-visit the issue once we have more evidence and information.

Ben Crabtree (Reigning FPL Champion) Says…

Stadium moves generally negatively affect performance.

Couple this with Spurs, and Kane in particular, being slow starters and there should be caution around their prized assets.

The 6-1 and 7-1 maulings they handed out in the spring were nearly three months ago. Their form – and that of all the other teams – is re-set for the new season and no-one has half an eye on the beach anymore.

I feel Spurs are less likely to win the title this season. Today’s Danny Rose story is symptomatic of the frustration at the club, with some players concerned that rivals have strengthened so much while their only business has made them weaker, ie losing Kyle Walker.

Then again, I’m open to the possibility of my thoughts deriving from confirmation bias.

Pretending Spurs have no options saves a lot of money and makes picking a team easier. There is a stadium move, but they’ve played there before so it’s not completely new. Kane hasn’t scored in August before, but that could mean he’ll score three months worth of goals this August to average it out.

Then there’s Eriksen and Alli who, as a rule, score more points each year. Even if they get ‘only’ this season, I don’t want to be missing out on that.

At the start you can only have so many top players. The tactic I generally use is to see what factors rule players out rather than in. I think Wembley is a big enough concern to put Spurs on hold for now.

Simon March (FPL Champion 2014/15) Says…

My theory when it comes to Spurs and the ‘Wembley factor’ is that their recent malaise there has less to do with the size of the pitch or the unfamiliar surroundings and much more to do with the fact that it is simply ‘Wembley’.

The venue is synonymous with ‘an occasion’ and, for the visiting teams and their fans, fixtures there take on a cup final atmosphere, irrespective of their actual significance. As a result, Spurs’ opponents typically bring along a larger, louder following and their players raise their game accordingly.

If this is true, then Spurs may have 19 ‘cup finals’ on their hands next season and this could, of course, impact on their players’ performances.

Though I expect Spurs to eventually adapt to their new surroundings and the greater pressure that comes with them, I might be concerned about their results early on in the season.

I’m less concerned, however, with the impact on Spurs as an attacking force.

Even if the results aren’t going their way, I think their usual suspects of Kane, Alli and Eriksen will still find opportunities to score.

The atmosphere might even work in their favour at times, with opposing teams less inclined to ‘park the bus’ in front of a more vociferous than usual away following.

So, while I might avoid their defence for a few Gameweeks at least, I’ll still be backing their attacking assets.

Jonty Says…

Spurs were an unstoppable force at White Hart Lane last season, racking up more shots than any home side and scoring 47 times – a tally only bettered by Chelsea.

In defence, they conceded just nine times in front of their own fans and kept 12 clean sheets – another two records for their 2016/17 stats cabinet.

Given that they effectively play 38 away matches this season, due to Wembley being their temporary home, the theory is that this fine record will suffer.

Leading the charge in pushing this theory are those that study pitch sizes. They will point out that, at 100 x 67 metres, White Hart Lane had the second smallest Premier League pitch last season and Spurs players may struggle to adjust to the extra space afforded by Wembley’s gigantic 105 x 69 metres (7,245 ) of turf.

West Ham’s travails after their move to a larger pitch at the London Stadium last season further strengthen this ‘groundsman’s argument’.

Then there’s Spurs’ track record at Wembley – a stadium where last season they were beaten by Monaco, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea and could only secure a draw against Belgian team KAA Gent. In fact, CSKA Moscow were the only side they managed to beat at the home of English football last season.

But I’m still not buying into the Wembley effect.

The key is that, in Kane, they have a player looking to win the Golden Boot for the third consecutive season and who still scored 12 goals on the road last season – with only Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero scoring more.

In addition, their away record was superb – suggesting the tight White Hart Lane pitch is not needed for success. On the road they conceded a mere 16 times- another record – and scored 39, which was only bettered by Manchester City.

If Spurs fail to replicate 2016/17’s form, it won’t be due to playing at Wembley. It will arguably be more to do with their failure to impress in the transfer market, where they have lost one of their best players in full-back Walker and have been forced to watch in envy as their rivals strengthen.

Paul Says…

Due to Spurs’ tactics under Mauricio Pochettino, I don’t think you can rule out the Wembley issue altogether, or at least in the very early stages.

Spurs play such a high-pressing game that, with more ground and space to cover in their new home, there’s a possibility that energy levels could drop later in matches and they might not be able to close down opponents quite so effectively.

That’s essentially a fitness factor and one that their manager will presumably address by ensuring that Spurs’ levels are even greater than before. It could initially have an impact but, as the season unfolds and the players up their match fitness and become more accustomed to Wembley, I can’t see it being an issue.

Kane’s minutes per away goal last season – which was almost identical to Romelu Lukaku’s at home – underlines that he’s far from reliant on White Hart Lane. At present, he’s the only Spurs player I own as I feel he’s unparalleled as a captaincy pick.

Elsewhere, you can also point to the fact that Alli had more big chances away from home than any FPL midfielder last season. Eriksen, meanwhile, sat first for shots and key passes, and his penchant for efforts from distance is unlikely to be quenched.

Defensively, I’m going to steer clear of Spurs for now and see if they can maintain the same levels of resilience as last season.

But with Burnley, Swansea City and Bournemouth three of their first four visitors, the opening schedule should allow them to settle and give us time to assess any possible Wembley impact.

Mark Says…

While they have been conspicuous by their absence in the transfer market, in many ways it was difficult to strengthen Pochettino’s first XI and, under normal circumstances I’d reluctantly be installing Spurs as title favourites.

But the Wembley factor has to be a consideration and, coupled with the sudden unrest in the camp following Rose’s outburst today, I do have escalating concerns about their prospects.

The pitch size and sense of occasion created by the stadium move is less of a factor than the morale issues for me.

I worry that, with a ready-made excuse for a reduced title bid, the mood in the camp could suddenly plummet further.

One of the main reasons for Spurs’ success last season was the fact that they came across as the most unified and spirited of teams.

But cracks are now appearing and I do feel that the re-location will compound matters.

Having said that, I am still struggling to overlook Kane.

Based on last season’s output, he is peerless as a captain option and while there is explosivity and possibly consistency on offer from Romelu Lukaku and Gabriel Jesus, they are for my money still giving chase to Kane for these qualities .

So Kane will likely get the nod for me, regardless of my concerns.

However, I am unlikely to back him with Eriksen or Alli for fear of over-investment in a side perhaps on the verge of a transition – both in terms of venue and, perhaps, mentality and confidence.

  1. El Lobito 10
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Vardy third striker FTW

    1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      He's the reason I haven't chosen Kola in my team.

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        This

  2. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    First Defender and third striker? which option do you prefer?

    A) Alonso and Firmino

    B) Cedric and Jesus

    1. Whats the Mata?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

    3. Gazpilicueta
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      really two Bs..... I am currently on A

  3. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Which combo is better for the starting 2-3 weeks?

    A. 4.5gk + Valencia + Fraser
    or
    B. DDG + 4.5def + Willian

  4. schlupptheweek
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone fancying Gross @5.5M? It seems like he's on the radar for most but I'm thinking of choosing him from the start, given the space Man City may provide at the back.

    1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      It's a punt, but you surely know that. I don't think Brighton will score too many goals throughout the season.

  5. CostaCoffee
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Kane or Lukaku ?
    Whoever I choose I won’t have a player from the other team

    Lukaku cons-new team, I don’t feel confident that he’ll do so good but nice fixtures

    Kane cons- Wembley.

    1. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      These pages are absolutely flying

    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Kane.

    3. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      kane coz tot score more goals than MU

    4. hogree
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Kane. Forget the Wembley thing, they just played bad in general in the CL. Also Man U much less likely to go crazy

    5. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I'm in a similar quandary as had planned to be Kaneless, but have cash to get him with 1FT.

      First two fixtures would sway me towards Lukaku, but would probably want Kane by GW3. Nearer it gets to deadline the more I'm doubting not having Kane.

      1. El Lobito 10
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Utd's attack isn't going to magically improve over night at home. They'll struggle to score more than one or two. Try say that on here and all the Lukaku owners go nuts. Jesus and Kane all day long.

  6. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Firmino's heat-map is insane.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Very bright like his teeth.

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Are you tempted?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Haven't seen the heatmap.

    2. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Incredible how 2 penalties change the heat map.

      1. Netley Lucas
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        The heat of him running away from goal 😆

        1. fedolefan
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Lol, seriously man. Every highlight package.

    3. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Will be labeled essential after he takes a pen, be ahead of the curve 😎

      1. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Can always get him then.

    4. marvssecret
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Just been playing around with my Pool & Spurs coverage, Firmino is a huge enabler (4m extra budget):

      A) Kane + Mane = 22m

      B) Alli + Firmino = 18m

  7. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Kompany/Davies or Walker/Stephens?

    1. CostaCoffee
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. william prunier
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B

    3. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      1st

    4. Big Col
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B - how long before Kompany is injured

    5. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks fellas

  8. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    chances of darmian playing at the weekend?

    1. Slartibartfast
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      75%

  9. gomez123
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    FFS....just one ask....Danilo or no Danilo!!

    1. FDMS All Starz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      No, transfer waiting to happen

  10. Silva’s Left Nut
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Cedric nailed?

    1. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Far from

    2. FDMS All Starz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Should play, class above his competition, and played the last pre season game

  11. woody7figure
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Bottomed - right think I'm done, thoughts?

    De Gea (Elliot)
    Cedric, Danilo, Luiz (Hegazi, Long)
    KDB, Salah, Willian, Atsu (Carroll)
    Aguero, Kane, Mounie

    Need to stop tinkering!

    1. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      If you're happy with it then roll with it

  12. Big Col
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Hi Guys, which is the better combo

    A) Foster, Ake

    B) Forster, Mee

    1. Galza
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A for sure

  13. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Link to Ville Ronke's team?

    1. laplana
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      You can't see anyone's teams yet.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Wait a day and you'll see his GW1 team.

  14. ludaslol
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Foster
    Alonso Bertrand Kolasniac
    Zaha Alli Willian KDB
    Firmino Gabbiadini Lukaku

    Elliot, Long, Rosenoir, T Carroll

    Pretty balanced team I believe everyone can get me some points every game, To much spent on D? Thinking Alonso scoring like a MF already, might be worth

    Thoughts please

    1. King of the north
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Is long nailed? In case a player doesnt play on your defense

  15. le flem
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Stones or Danilo?

    1. marvssecret
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Stones

  16. Jet5605
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Hardy seeing any Watford players. I reckon Silva is going to do the biz with them. Remember how Hull suddenly tightened up at the back.

    Any thoughts on which players could be good bets?

  17. Scheister
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Mane or Salah?

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mane for me

  18. John Colby (C)
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Mkhitariyan -
    Anyone else thinks he's very under-priced? Can't understand why there's uncertainty around whether or not he'll be a regular starter. Superb pre-season.

    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Rotation threats - wait and see for most

      1. John Colby (C)
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers Concrete.

  19. Concrete
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Gomez Elliot
    Kolasniac Cedric Francis Löwe Suttner
    Alli KdB Willian Ritchie Carrol
    Lukaku Jesus JRod

    Thoughts please? Gomes, need Mane/ Salah
    Happy without Kane for first 2 but 2 Mil ITB in case

  20. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Who else will be on the Iwobi wagon tomorrow night?

    1. Silva’s Left Nut
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Currently me

    2. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Thought about it, could be a decent punt but rotation risk?

    3. Galza
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Not riding that cart just yet.

  21. Steve McCroskey
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Carroll or Loftus-Cheek for 5th mid?

  22. King of the north
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Pick one out of this three options

    Mane+ salah
    Mane + Alli
    Fabregas + firmino

    Whobis the best pick?

    1. Big Sum
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Mane + Alli

    2. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

  23. Steve McCroskey
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Looks like I picked the wrong gameweek to stop sniffing glue

    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Hahaha

  24. barracuda
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    RMT index at 337. Any good?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      It's fine. You'll change players anyway.

      1. barracuda
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers TM. Still a bit disorientated, what are the best features of the membership pls?

    2. BeDreamin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Rubbish start again

      1. barracuda
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        What's yours?

      2. barracuda
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        5 days ago you commented on a certain team which you liked,"nice balance" were your words- only difference is Kola, Firm which are better than Tripps and Pogba- in my eyes anyway. So what's so rubbish about that index?

  25. LVRD
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) Kane-Alli-Salah
    B) Kane-Mane-Salah

    1. Ramsays Raw Steak
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      A

    2. King of the north
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      B) mane the best attacking midfielder for liverpool, 3 years of premier league experience

  26. Alan_T
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    The 6.5m striker option is HARD....

    1. laplana
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Gray >

      1. Alan_T
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Need someone for a while.. ...?

        Draft league probs

  27. @FPLMason
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    A) Redmond and Stephens
    B) JWP and Bertrand

  28. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Am I mad to Captain Aguero?

    1. laplana
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Not at all, he will get a haul.

  29. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Spurs bid £18m for Cedric.

    1. Cheshire Duck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      source ?

    2. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Only have Soares because Trippier is injured lol.

  30. Cheshire Duck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Which one is better ?

    A) Foster - Elliott
    Valencia - Kolanisac - Stephens - Mee - TAA
    Mhkitaryan - Willian - Carroll - Salah - Fraser
    Jesus - Gabbiadini - Kane
    and 1.0 ITB

    B) Foster - Elliott
    Hunnemeier - Kolanisac - Stephens - Mee - TAA
    KDB - Willian - Carroll - Salah - Fraser
    Lukaku - Gabbiadini - Kane
    and 0.5 ITB