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We were braced for rotation but never, never in our wildest nightmares did we expect it on this scale.

Rafa Benitez’s decision to drop Rob Elliot last night was merely a tease, that setback for thousands of Fantasy managers now pales into insignificance next to the implications of tonight’s teamsheets.

Leroy Sane is perhaps the major casualty. He’s strangely omitted from the Manchester City squad, despite the fact that he could now go into the weekend clash with West Ham having to avoid a booking to prevent a one-match suspension for the trip to rivals United. Pep Guardiola’s decision to omit a player who has been devastating in home matches and who is owned by over 1.5 million managers is puzzling. We await clarity.

Sane’s absence allows Gabriel Jesus and Sergio Aguero to start together, with Raheem Sterling also retained against visiting Southampton.

Elsewhere, there are a string of prime Fantasy assets on the bench. These include Eden Hazard who is captained by 185,000 managers and Mohamed Salah who has the backing of 472,000.

They are joined by Cesar Azpilicueta, David Silva and Philippe Coutinho as Fantasy managers are left scouring their own bench for autosub solutions.

Plans and Gameweek scores are likely to be devastated, but surely very few of us will have escaped unscathed. Tonight’s teamsheets will go down in Fantasy folklore.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Krafty Werks
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 21 days ago

    Best budget 3rd striker to bring in now?

    A - Wilson
    B - Niasse
    C - Abraham
    D - Murray
    E - Other?

    Thanks.

    1. Mosey
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      niasee

      1. Krafty Werks
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Hasn't played last 2 and Rooney with a hat-trick today, maybe not the best idea?

        1. william prunier
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Rooney ain't got the legs

        2. Scout Pics
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Because he's been banned lol

        3. Goalosaurus
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Rooney could be playing in midfield so not necessarily direct competition to niasse.

    2. Scout Pics
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Niasse

    3. acidicleo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      b clearly due to price..

    4. Krafty Werks
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Ok thanks for replies all.

  2. Rash
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 21 days ago

    How is that a kdb goal? Clearly not a shot

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      I think it really was an OG

      1. Rash
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Shocking from fpl imo

        1. Gooner97
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          They're only doing it so people go and buy him

        2. Professor Abel X
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Based on Opta isn’t it?

    2. SC not pearls before swine
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Willian's goal last week wasn't a shot either. It was on target when VvD touched it. Definitely weird because Forster probably would have had it were it not for the deflection, but whatever.

  3. stat
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Bench one:

      A) Daniels vs SOU
      B) Mee vs lei
      C) RLC vs wba

      1. klavan
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        b

      2. mdm
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        B

    • Yozzer
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Alonso and morata rested next game likely?

      1. mdm
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Only Morata

      2. Teror
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        I don't see why Morata would be rested. He's the only fit striker in Chelsea's squad and they've got to keep up the chase rather than sit back. I think he'll play.

      3. Mosey
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        none of them will be rested. given how they scraped thru without hazard and their best players not getting the delivery and dribbles of hazz

    • Teror
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      I've had the most incredibly season ever so far and this has been my first awful game week that I've forgotten how nauseating that feeling of dejection is. My only two mini leagues where I'm second both of my competitors had Salah as VC. I never want to feel like this again.

    • FISSH
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      How did jesus get an assist!?

      1. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Drew the FK

      2. jdp219
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        that's what I was wondering

      3. AzzaroMax99
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        I think that he was fouled and Kevin scored from free kick.

      4. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Wow how jammy. It wasn't de Bruynes goal

      5. che
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        See my post below. Ridiculous

    • Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Have 2FTs, really have no idea what to do!

      DDG/Elliot
      Azpi/Mee/Daniels/Moreno/Duffy
      Salah/Sane/Sterling/Richarlison/Gross
      Kane/Morata/Niasse

      All I can think of is Elliot to a dead keeper to gain 0.1... (0 ITB) or Sane out depending on news... any suggestions appreciated 🙂

      1. Mosey
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Your team looks solid, no xfer needed IMO

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Thanks! 🙂

      2. Freddo
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        That is a very nice team.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Cheers 🙂 WC over the IB has certainly paid off so far

      3. vartshk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Um.... not a lot you can do to improve that!

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Haha cheers 🙂 might do that GK move then!

      4. AttackAttackAttack
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        I have the same team and don't know what to do with my 2ft either. Guess downgrading 2nd keeper is best option.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Yeah that's what I'm thinking! Cheers 🙂 might even do DDG to Courtois for the derby and back again if no issues by then haha

      5. Salarrivederci
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        If Sane is out (don't think he will be, but if)

        You could do DDG + Sane -> Courtois + Mane.

        Which defender are you planning to start with Azpi and Moreno next GW?

        I got Lowton, Aké and Duffy. But also Monreal and Mustafi. Headache to field 3/5 of them.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Cheers 🙂 no idea, probably Mee as a default but haven't looked at fixtures yet!

          In your case might be worth playing just one of Ars defence. Mustafi, Lowton, Ake? Monreal first sub?

          1. Salarrivederci
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            Ye. You're right. ThoughI do think chances of Gunners CS is higher than Burnley (lei) and Aké (SOU).

            Would look like this then:

            Courtois
            Mustafi, Aké, Lowton
            Salah(VC), Hazard(C), Zaha, Sterling
            Kane, Morata, Niasse

            (Speroni, RLC, Monreal, Duffy)

            1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 21 days ago

              Looks good to me 🙂 if you're feeling ballsy re Arsenal (every chance Jose parks the bus) then I'd play them ahead of Lowton 🙂

              1. Salarrivederci
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 21 days ago

                Thx. Hope Lowton will be ready and not still out due to knock. seems like we all need a playing bench atm 😉

      6. acidicleo
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        solid team..maybe elliot out..

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Thanks 🙂

      7. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        DDG to Courtois

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Considering this - thanks!

    • AzzaroMax99
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Fabianski & Azpi --> Courtois & Bellerin for free?

      1. mrwinner
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        why take out Azpi?

      2. Puzzle
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Why would you sell Azpi now? He'll probably play the rest of the season now, he's a machine.

        1. william prunier
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          This

        2. AzzaroMax99
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Not now, in a week or two. I need stronger keeper and real WB.

          1. Puzzle
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            Azpi is a percect player for christmas, got rotated once in 2 seasons. Keep.

          2. Hotdogs for Tea
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            Fabs is the second highest scoring keeper ?

    • F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      is Gross to sterling worth it?

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        No-one else you can do? gross is a hero, amazing value atm

        1. F4L
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          current mid is:

          Hazard Richarlison Gross Salah Sane. Don't really want to drop anyone else

          1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            Aye fair enough. Would be a shame but he makes the most sense there

            1. F4L
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 21 days ago

              yeah that's what I thought, cheers

          2. Mosey
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            midifield solid, no need to xfer in sterling

            1. F4L
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 21 days ago

              probably. Will wait and revaluate later

          3. vartshk
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            Looks good, wouldn’t chase sterlings points.

          4. @fpl_phenom
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            Sane > Sterling

      2. Teror
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Yes

      3. mdm
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        No

      4. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Sterling rested this week ?

    • Freddo
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Double Chelsea defence feels pretty essential when you look at their fixtures.

      4 clean sheets in their last 5 games, they are in that groove again.

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Wavering on DDG to courtois while Jones out...

        1. Freddo
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          I've just added Courtois to Alonso, their next 10 or so games look ripe for plenty of returns.

          1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            I have Azpi and Morata atm. 2FTs and no idea what to do so might just do it for the sake of it! Rival has double UTD defence though...

            1. Freddo
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 21 days ago

              Just seen your team, if it's not broke, don't fix it, burn one transfer to change Elliot to a 4 and roll the other, that is my suggestion.

              1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 21 days ago

                Thanks 🙂 talking sense! Don't normally have one to burn, so was getting twitchy!

      2. F4L
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        cant work out whether to loose Hazard or Morata for it though

      3. 42towels
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        I have Azpi and Christensen, but seeing the Elliott benching, could have the used the slot for Courtois.

      4. Magic Andrés
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Indeed. Courtois + Alonso saved me these last couple of weeks.

    • Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Bottomed:

      a) Silva -> Sterling for free

      b) Morata + Silva -> KDB + Vardy (-4)

      1. GOTHAM City F.C.
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        a.

      2. mdm
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        B

    • mrwinner
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Elliot / Alli / Laca > Hazard / Pope / Vardy for -8?

    • Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Anyone still think KDB isn't good value?

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        I don't.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          As in he's not good value?

      2. mrwinner
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        sterling is the only good value city asset

        1. FISSH
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          Sane? Lol

          1. F4L
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            love how Sane has just been thrown out the window 😆

            1. william prunier
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 21 days ago

              Totally lol

    • LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      thoughts on Eliott?

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Sell I think! Go for a safe option..

    • Henning
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Last one before bedtime

      1.Vardy and Young in for Niasse and Pogba
      2. Vardy and Hazard/de bruyne in for Morata and Silva?

      1. Mosey
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        None. vardy and hazard are keepers

      2. Boxwoods
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Don't like 1 a bit.
        Maybe 2, but I would not want to see Alvaro go unless I had 2 very strong other forwards.

      3. aborg
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        surely 2 ...Vardy and De Bruyne in. Hazard is inconsistent.

    • Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Who can beat this for a disaster GW?

      Shipped Ritchie (11pts), Vardy (8pts), and Tarroll (2pts) for Cout (DNP), Niasse (banned, which I knew, but still), and RLC (3pts) for (-4). So negative 22 there.
      Sane, Azpi, and Lowton also failed to make the pitch, and Silva got just 16 mins. 1s and 2s from Morata, Alli, Pope, Daniels, and Yeddy.
      19 pts after the hit, with only a late goal from Kane(c) sparing me from an 11.

      1. skriniar
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        which u know, but still

      2. Puzzle
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Haha, wow. Sorry, that was comical. Surely wins the rough on the scoutcast!

    • che
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Not sure on KDB being given the goal tonight. It was a cross heading into the goalies arms before Van Dyke touched it. Even more dubious is how Jesus is given an assist! The FPL rules state that if an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass, significantly altering the final destination of the ball, then no assist is given. Thoughts?

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        happy i have kdb 🙂 didnt see the game so cant comment

      2. Boxwoods
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Agree. Garbage all round.

      3. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Yep. Could cost me

      4. Rash
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Absolute farce

      5. SC not pearls before swine
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        I don't think the assist is questionable. If it's a KDB goal, then the guy who won the free kick gets an assist. The goal is weird because it's probably not going in if VvD doesn't touch it. But who knows, maybe Forster completely misreads it and lets it slip through his hands, in which case it's definitely De Bruyne's goal, which is why the goal rule is the way it is.

        1. che
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          The goal is up for debate, but the assist is clearly not an assist. It's written in the rules

          1. SC not pearls before swine
            • 15 Years
            8 years, 21 days ago

            The rule you quote is talking about a pass. If the direction of a pass is altered by a defender, there's no assist. The way the shot goes in has nothing to do with whether there's an assist or not, unless it's ruled an own goal.

            1. che
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 21 days ago

              The final pass was KDBs though. It certainly wasn't a shot

              1. SC not pearls before swine
                • 15 Years
                8 years, 21 days ago

                Then you're arguing it's an own goal. If the attacker's goal, it's a shot, regardless of De Bruyne's intentions. If it's KDB's goal, the assist is indisputable.

                1. che
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 21 days ago

                  The rule states: "if an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is given." The final pass was made by KDB and the intended destination was significantly altered. So no assist to Jesus, surely?

                  1. SC not pearls before swine
                    • 15 Years
                    8 years, 21 days ago

                    Because it's ruled as KDB's goal, it's not a pass, it's a shot. KDB's intentions don't matter, only whether or not the ball was going to be on target if the defender hadn't redirected it.

                    1. che
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 21 days ago

                      That's not what it states in the rules though. It states the final pass before a goal is scored. Jesus didn't make a pass. He was fouled in the build up

                      1. SC not pearls before swine
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 21 days ago

                        It also states that the player fouled before a direct free kick that results in a goal gets an assist. Like Paul Pogba with Ashley Young's second goal against Watford.

                        1. che
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 21 days ago

                          Only if it's "directly scored" - Like Ashley Young's was. KDBs wasn't directly scored, hence no assist as an opposing player touched it before it reached its intended destination

                        2. SC not pearls before swine
                          • 15 Years
                          8 years, 21 days ago

                          But Opta ruled it was directly scored because it's KDB's goal. It's either an own goal or it's not. They ruled the deflection incidental.

                        3. che
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 21 days ago

                          That's just your personal opinion on it. It doesn't state that in the rules. Opta aren't even mentioned in the rules on assists.

                        4. SC not pearls before swine
                          • 15 Years
                          8 years, 21 days ago

                          FPL doesn't determine who's goal it is. They get that from Opta. If it's KDB's goal, there's an assist, unless he had won the free kick himself, or the pass to him had been deflected. They ruled it a goal. Therefore, the goal came directly from a free kick, therefore the player who won the free kick gets an assist.

                          I would have been fine if they'd ruled it an own goal. That makes the most sense to me. But if it's KDB's goal, Jesus gets an assist.

                        5. che
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 21 days ago

                          No assist needs to be given though. An assist only needs to be given if a foul directly leads to a goal, or a pass that directly leads to a goal. Neither was the case here. So no assist should be given. I don't think even Jesus himself would expect an assist for that (not even the walking on water dude)

                        6. SC not pearls before swine
                          • 15 Years
                          8 years, 21 days ago

                          The foul did lead directly to the goal if it's a De Bruyne goal. It has to be an all or nothing rule or else you're opening yourself up to an subjective criteria. It has to be an own goal if you don't want the Jesus assist. By the stats, KDB's free kick is identical to Young's.

    • Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      anyone thinking of gettinh kenny, home to huddesrsfield could be a cleanie 🙂

      1. Scout Pics
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Already got him

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 21 days ago

          nice one.

    • Ratatouille
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Sane was apparently left out to have his back tattooed! A huge Sane tattoo for this weekend’s hatrick 🙂

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Srsly? It's his job ffs

    • 42towels
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Do fpldiscovery average points include Autosub points? Thanks!

      And was the rotation really as bad as the article makes it out to be? Folklore? Feel like we've seen worse over the seasons.

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Worst Iv ever seen... Azpil was the real shocker!

    • Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Are you selling Dann?

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Yes, and Speroni. Or maybe Elliott.. 🙂

      2. 42towels
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Yeah I think I need to, just not sure when. Hate that my last 3-4 transfers have all been on defense though!

    • AnfieldLad
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Can anyone advice me on what to do with

      (Elliot, Krul) 1FT 0.2ITB

      A) Eliot -> Henny
      B) Hit to get someone nailed and better
      C) Save FT and use 2 to get someone better

    • Rainer
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      People expecting consistency from FPL regards KDBs 'goal' 😆

      Don't waste your energy!

      1. Numb
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Nothing to do with FPL

    • ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Hurry up and update ffs

      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        You'll be waiting awhile - a lot of autosubs tonight

    • Rafiki
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Krul and Eriksen to Courtouis and Sterling with 2FT seems a no brainer right?

    • Numb
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      KDB or Hazard?

      1. william prunier
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Haz

    • Fernando Torres
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      A) Wilson + Krul -> Calvert Lewin + Pope (-4)
      B) Alli/Sane -> 9.3M midfielder for free

      My other GK is Elliott

    • Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      6th consecutive green arrow and still own no city 🙂

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        Nice

      2. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 21 days ago

        How do you know you have a green arrow?

    • Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Davies/Jesus > Christensen/Morata?

    • mrwinner
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 21 days ago

      Please complete 3rd option. Have 9.2 to spend. Thinking Vardy, don't really need the funds elsewhere. -8 almost unavoidable with Elliot and Laca out with no strong bench and further likely rotation on Sat.

      Elliot / Alli / Laca > Hazard / Pope / ******** for -8.