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29 October 2018 1641 comments
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Our review of the weekend’s matches from a Fantasy perspective continues with an analysis of the match at Old Trafford on Sunday afternoon, as Manchester United held off an Everton comeback to climb above the Toffees into eighth.

With Romelu Lukaku named among the Red Devils’ substitutes, it was left to two players in the sub-£7.0m price bracket in FPL to lead the line for their respective clubs: Marcus Rashford spearheading the United attack and “out of position” midfielder Richarlison once again being used as the focal point in Marco Silva’s 4-2-3-1.

The game, however, belonged to two United midfielders, both of whom got on the scoresheet: Paul Pogba and Anthony Martial.

We’ve got all the goals, assist, Fantasy talking points, manager quotes and injury news from the penultimate fixture of Gameweek 10.

Manchester United 2-1 Everton

  • Goals: Paul Pogba (£8.0m), Anthony Martial (£7.3m) | Gylfi Sigurdsson (£7.4m)
  • Assists: Paul Pogba | Richarlison (£6.8m)

For the Fantasy managers who owned the most popular FPL asset on show at Old Trafford on Sunday afternoon, there was at least the solace of an assist after what had been another frustrating day at the office.

When Richarlison (£6.8m) was handed the striker’s role against Leicester City in Gameweek 8, the 24.4% of us who own the former Watford midfielder had optimistic visions of the Brazilian embarking on a goal-scoring run in his new centre-forward position but after three Gameweeks as the spearhead of the Everton attack, Richarlison’s owners could be forgiven for clamouring for his return to the left flank.

As if to prove a point, Richarlison did his best work at Old Trafford when facing goal and retreating to a slightly deeper position.

Twice the Brazilian created excellent chances for his team-mates with incisive passes in behind the United defence, the first for Bernard (£5.9m) who could only fire into the side netting after rounding David de Gea and the second for Seamus Coleman (£5.2m) who blazed a shot over the Spanish goalkeeper’s bar.

Richarlison’s only real sight of goal came when he ran at United’s defence and fired low at de Gea, having spent much of the game being shackled out of possession or being ignored by his Everton team-mates when well placed.

Richarlison is a similar character to Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.9m) when things aren’t going his way, here unable to mask his contempt when Theo Walcott (£6.4m) twice elected to shoot rather than square the ball and possessing the demeanour of a sullen adolescent when the ball bypassed his orbit.

The Brazil international was still the pick of Everton’s front four, however, and got a perhaps deserved assist when he was chopped down in the box by the leaden-footed Chris Smalling (£5.8m) to give Gylfi Sigurdsson (£7.4m) the opportunity to score what turned out to be the Toffees’ consolation from the spot on 76 minutes.

The Icelandic midfielder had earlier headed a Coleman delivery straight at de Gea and crossed for Andre Gomes (£5.4m) to do likewise, but was otherwise fairly quiet.

Being Everton’s designated penalty taker in a side blessed with pace in the form of Richarlison, Walcott and Bernard, however, means a spot-kick (or direct free-kick) award is always a possibility no matter what the opposition. Up next for the Toffees, indeed, are Brighton, a side who have conceded more fouls than any other Premier League side this season – three of which resulted in penalties.

Walcott and Bernard were fairly poor and their places could possibly come under threat from the likes of Ademola Lookman (£5.1m) or Dominic Calvert-Lewin (£5.3m) for the visit of the Seagulls in Gameweek 11, though it appears Cenk Tosun (£6.7m) still has much to do to convince his manager that he is worthy of a start after he was reduced to a fifth successive substitute’s appearance in the match on Sunday.

After the match, Silva said he was happy with his team’s approach to the game but bemoaned a lack of quality in front of goal:

We created four or five chances but only scored from the penalty and we have the quality to be better in those moments.

In the last ten minutes United had nine players on the edge of their box but we did not attack with quite enough quality, it was more with our hearts.

We did not create big chances in those moments but United were defending very deep.

We improved again in this match, though – not with the result, we are unhappy with the result – but we played our way. One penalty and one fantastic finish from Martial made the difference.

If we had been more assertive [with our chances] we would have had a different result – we did enough to achieve that.

Richarlison’s owners could have been forgiven for looking on enviously at what Anthony Martial (£7.3m) was achieving on the left flank for United, with the French winger perhaps the game’s standout player and giving Coleman a torrid afternoon.

Martial was particularly prominent in the first half, producing some excellent trickery to set up chances for Juan Mata (£6.2m) and Paul Pogba (£8.0m) before testing Jordan Pickford (£4.9m) from distance.

Martial was unlucky not to get an assist for United’s opener, having been “fouled” (replays suggested otherwise) by Idrissa Gueye (£4.8m) for the penalty that Pogba missed – the former Juventus midfielder subsequently tucking home the rebound from Pickford’s parry.

A fantastic curled effort just after the interval gave Martial the goal his performance merited and the ex-Monaco man ought to have added to his tally in stoppage time, being denied by Pickford when clean through on goal.

Speaking of Martial’s performance, Jose Mourinho said:

I think he coped well with his development process. He took quite a long time to understand what we want from him, took quite a long time for his brain but also his body to be ready to play the way we want him to play. But in this moment he is solid, he’s playing very well and even if he doesn’t score or is not in his best days to create the way he’s creating his performance, is a solid performance for the team.

He’s understanding now things we didn’t before and he wants to play and he knows that to play and be consistent in the team he has to go in a certain direction and he’s finding that direction.

His performance today without the goal would be a good performance and what I want from him is exactly that. You cannot score every time you play but in these matches, where you don’t score and you don’t assist, where your creation is not at a high level, but you have a certain balance in your performance.

And that’s the way I think he’s going now.

United assets have understandably been overlooked in recent weeks given the almost constant state of turmoil the club finds itself in, but Martial is averaging 12.33 points per match over the last three Gameweeks and is the form player in FPL.

The Frenchman, indeed, came into this match as the third-most-bought player of Gameweek 10 following his brace at Stamford Bridge.

What perhaps deters investment for those of us without him is the fact that United now face back-to-back away matches against Bournemouth and Manchester City, two sides that have kept three and five successive league clean sheets and who both sit in the top four for fewest big chances conceded in 2018/19.

Martial had started the match on the left of a front three in Mourinho’s 4-3-3, with Marcus Rashford (£6.7m) deployed as the central striker and Mata stationed on the right flank.

That meant that Romelu Lukaku (£10.8m) was dropped to the bench for the first time this season, the Belgian striker underscoring his lack of confidence in front of goal late in the match when emerging as a substitute to head Pogba’s inch-perfect cross horribly wide from eight yards.

Mourinho discussed his reasoning for Lukaku’s omission after full-time:

The reason is he is playing lots of matches and lately, not just not scoring goals, but also not showing lots of confidence.

Sometimes we decide that the best thing for the players is to not be on the pitch, to be protected and away from the initial pressure.

If he comes into the game later, he will come with a positive feeling of trying to make a difference and be back to normality because normally with Romelu, he scores lots of goals.

So I think he is under pressure a little bit because he is not doing that.

Rashford didn’t particularly stand out as a mid-price forward worth investing in, wasting the one goal-scoring opportunity he was presented with, but United looked better overall with Rashford’s movement up top and without the lumbering presence of Lukaku to stall any momentum.

Mata had a fine game too, though United’s other eye-catching player from a Fantasy perspective was Pogba.

While sloppy at times (his penalty miss and an unnecessary flick that ultimately led to Everton’s goal being two examples) Pogba looked capable of registering a goal or assist every time he went forward, registering twice as many attempts on goal and shots in the box as any player on show at Old Trafford.

Not even Mohamed Salah (£12.9m) or Eden Hazard (£11.3m) have registered as many shots on target as Pogba this season, meanwhile.

Being United’s penalty taker is another string to his bow from a Fantasy perspective, though Pogba has missed two of the five Premier League spot-kicks that he has taken this season and his manager suggested his technique from 12 yards needs honing:

The thing I like is the desire to take it. Let me choose the words, I don’t want to be punished.

I don’t like Mickey Mouses, fragile, afraid to go, ‘I don’t take penalties.’ I like the player that I want to take it.

The Crystal Palace boy today he missed against Everton and today two penalties he wants to take. Paul, can he improve? I think he can. The goalkeepers know his running, they don’t move and they are waiting for his decision so he has to learn from that but for me, the most important thing is he wants to go again.

United’s defence once again failed to keep a clean sheet on home soil and they have now conceded just one fewer goal at Old Trafford than they shipped at the ‘Theatre of Dreams’ in the whole of 2017/18.

After an impressive start to the campaign, Luke Shaw (£5.om) is averaging just 1.6 FPL points per match over the last five Gameweeks and didn’t touch the ball once in the Everton penalty box on Sunday.

Jesse Lingard (£6.7m) and Marcos Rojo (£4.9m) returned from injury to be among the substitutes, where they were joined by Alexis Sanchez (£10.0m), who had mysteriously been ruled out of this fixture just 48 hours previously.

Manchester United XI (4-3-3): De Gea; Young, Lindelof, Smalling, Shaw; Fred (Lingard 90′), Matic, Pogba; Martial, Rashford (Lukaku 65′), Mata (Herrera 85′).

Everton XI (4-2-3-1): Pickford; Coleman, Keane, Zouma, Digne; Gueye (Tosun 78′), Gomes; Walcott (Calvert-Lewin 78′), Sigurdsson, Bernard (Lookman 62′); Richarlison.

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  1. Del FPL-iero
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Ryan - Patrício
    Robertson - Alonso - Doherty - WB - Bennett*
    Hazard - Salah - Richarlison - Maddison - De Bruyne
    Arnautovic - Wilson - Mitrovic*

    How do you find this move:
    Bennet + Mitro --> Mendy + 4.9 bench fodder (Success, Kamara, Zohore, etc)?

    1. KUNingas
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Go for it. Amazing midfield!

      1. Del FPL-iero
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks 🙂

    2. danishdynamite
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Keep Mitro (for now) and ditch Maddison instead

    3. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I really hope your KDB pick works out for you, but I think there are much better options for that money. Your forward line is pretty weak and I don't think KDB will ever have the potential to score big hauls like Aguero or even Lacazette/Auba/Vardy..

      He's a brilliant footballer and makes City tick, but in terms of fantasy seems restricted to assisting the assister all to often and the occasional goal from range.

      1. joeydelucchi
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        KDB finished 3rd last year behind salah and sterling in the Top pts scorers overall didnt he?

        1. Del FPL-iero
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Thank you for the reply.
          Having KDB at this stage is risky but I will take the chance and hopefully, he will catch up in the long run. Now I am willing to get Mendy back.

  2. DoobNoob
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    I honestly do not understand why everyone has such a problem with Pogba's penalty run-up. Why does everyone care about it so much? 8 scored out of 11 penalties isn't a bad return

    1. Dude1234
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Because he looks like a clown and hit serves no purpose

      1. DoobNoob
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        what do you mean it serves no purpose... if it is how he wants to run-up then it serves a purpose cause its how he feels most comfortable taking pens

    2. Pinturicchio10
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe because he's a cretin in general.

      • gergin
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        8/11 is not as bad, but is not good either...

      • diesel001
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Because he is doing it for show. Run up properly, put it in the net and then do a proper celebration.

        Same with the flicks and showboating. Stop that and get more goals, assists and key contributions.

        1. DoobNoob
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          why does it matter how he runs up.. you've just decided what a 'proper' run-up is. surely all that matters about your run up is that it gives you the best chance of scoring, and if his best chance of scoring is when he runs up like that, then whats the problem with it

          1. Dude1234
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            See my previous post. He’s a twat. Don’t be so touchy about it. Plenty footballers nowadays are.

      • THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        He's a lemon.

      • Krionos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Because haters gonna hate!

      • how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        8 out of 11 is not good.

        He just seems to constantly draw attention to himself like my 8 year old.

        He can be a great player on his day, just needs to be more consistent.

    3. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Need a replacement for Knockaert and looking at the following.

      Who gets your vote?

      Barkley
      Gudmundsson
      Milivojevic
      Schurrle
      Kenedy
      Sessegnon
      Mata

      1. Dude1234
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Barkley

        1. KUNingas
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          This if any

      2. Pinturicchio10
          7 years, 1 month ago

          All garbage

          1. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Ok so just keep Knockaert who isn't playing?

            1. Pinturicchio10
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Do as you wish, I couldn't give a bollocks. Just pointing out that they are garbage options that's all.

          2. mike09
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Barkely

          3. Holmes
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            brady

          4. danishdynamite
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Barkley. But he is most certainly gonna bite you (and me) on the bum

          5. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Delofeu or Josh Murphy

          6. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Milli isn't beyond the realms.

          7. Vobinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Barkley. Made the move myself, even if he returns 1 in every 3 he'll do better than Knockaert.

            1. danishdynamite
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Fair point.
              He also has Everton in a few weeks. 15 pointer or red card incoming

        • KUNingas
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          2FTs and 0.5 ITB.

          Kane + Ings -> Aguero + Murray?
          Or just Kane -> Aguero and save other FT?

          Patrcio
          Alonso, Robertson, Mendy
          Hazard, Mane, Richarlison, Maddison
          Aguero, Arnie, Murray

          Hamer, Fraser, AWB, Peltier

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            With southampton next, Aguero seems a must. I would do the straight swap and save FT. I'm still not convinced about Murray

          2. mike09
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Just Kane > Aguero (C).

          3. KUNingas
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Thanks both!

          4. Konstaapeli
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Just Kane and save.

        • internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Knockaert is what's putting me off getting Martial and Barkley. I was all set on doing Fraser to Knock, 3 GW's ago and look what's happened.

          1. Maddamotha
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I did Stephens > Knockaert to improve my bench, considering AWB fixtures. Turned out well.

          2. Vobinho
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I got Knockaert in 2 GW's ago, shifted him for Barkley last night. Even if he ain't nailed I'm convinced he still gets more point than Knockaert since he's in a very attacking side and could be playing alongside Hazard from now on.

            1. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              I do think Barkley looks a good short term punt. Very tempted myself

          3. Puncheon Guly
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Not big risks. If you go for one, you need an exit plan and be decisive in executing it. I fear we've missed the boat on both

            1. Puncheon Guly
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              That said, from GW13 United have Palace, Soton and Fulham 3 out of 4 weeks, so Martial definitely on the radar for that run

        • Konstaapeli
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Best 4.5 def for the next 6-7 weeks?

          A) Dunk
          B) Yedlin
          C) Balbuena
          D) Zabaleta
          E) Other

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Who is your keeper?

            1. Konstaapeli
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Ederson. Rest of the def is RAM + WB

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                I do like Brighton's fixtures. A or C

                1. Konstaapeli
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  Thanks. I'm thinking Balbuena. WH fixtures look so sweet.

                2. JBG
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  A or C yeah

        • Thunder Warrior
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Diop or Zabaleta?

          1. WARIO
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Diop

        • Tshelby
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Hi!

          2FT
          0.0 ITB

          Fabianski, Hamer
          Alonso, Roberston, Trippier, AWB, Bennett
          Hazard, Salah, Richarlison, Fraser, Billing
          Kun, Arnie, Mitro

          Think I might do Fraser -> Murphy and safe some cash for a rainy day? Nothing else to do?

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Trip to Mendy would be my move

            1. mike09
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              This.

            2. Tshelby
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Can't afford it and I think I want to keep Trippier for Wolves and Palace he has been really consitent

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Ok. I think I'll keep Fraser myself. What are your planned moves for the next 2-3 gameweeks? I would sell Mitro pretty soon

                1. Tshelby
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  Thinking about Murray for some weeks or maybe try to fit a Salah Mane combo in. Don't know for sure haven't changed alot over the last weeks and it has been green arrow all the way so don't really know. You?

                  1. internal error
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 1 month ago

                    My main priority is to get Mendy in to form DRAM. I think I might downgrade Mitro and play 4-4-2 going forward.

                    1. Tshelby
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 1 month ago

                      Interesting could try that also it does look appealing

            3. danishdynamite
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              This

              1. danishdynamite
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Sorry, didn't notice you didn't have the dosh.

                Were it me, I'd do Trip & Rich > Mendy & Barkley

                1. Tshelby
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  Mmm don't know how I feel about Barkley but a move to look into! Thanks

        • Ronnies
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Best replacement for TAA ?

          (Don't want Duffy as my rival has him)

          a) Doherty
          b) Coleman
          c) Digne
          d) Shaw

          Thanks guys.

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            a

          2. WARIO
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A

          3. gergin
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            C

            1. JBG
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              E) Balbuena

        • Klein
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          For non owners has the bourne boat sailed?

          1. Tshelby
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah think so

          2. Konstaapeli
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I hope so. It's been horrible.

          3. Shatner's Bassoon
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            As in Bournemouth?

            Not sure... Man Utd / Arsenal at home could be alright, given how they've both defended this season.

            In between those, they play Newcastle and Huddersfield... so still worth considering, but prices might be an issue.

          4. CROCosta
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            i ditched fraser last week for salah and this week i am considering ditching wilson for arnautovic as well but might keep for another week to see how he plays against united. i think 3 attackers will be a way to go in the coming fixtures with plenty solid options:
            aguero, laca, firminho, arnautovic, mitrovic, murray, wilson, jimenez
            Might even be time to ditch aguero for 3rd heavy hitter in mid like kdb or sterling (alongside hazard and salah) and run arny + wilson + mitro/murray up front

        • WARIO
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Fabianski
          Mendy - Luiz - TAA
          Salah - Hazard (C) - KDB - Richarlison - Kenedy
          Arnautovic - Mitro

          Patrício - Jimenez - Bennett - AWB

          2.5ITB, 1FT. Would appreciate any advice, thank you

        • NATSTER
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I have just been reminded by the fact that Kovacic is on loan from Real Madrid while Barkley is Chelsea player.

          This made me feel more confident in getting Barkley. Personally, I feel the club would give their own player higher priority.

          1. Klein
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            After el classico kovicic be like: please let me stay :p

          2. J T
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Well let me remind you that a Kovacic is on another level than Barkley

            1. Meinhoff
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              He's not really

            2. Vobinho
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Last three games don't point to that.

              Two starts out of three, and was even trusted to play when Hazard wasn't there.

        • Michelle Davin
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Wonder if people will take Mersons predictions more serious now since I got laughed at when I posted it here..
          Brighton did beat wolves, and Bournemouth didn't win 4 :0 but 3:0,cose enough I say.
          His tips has helped me quite a lot over the years from a fantasy league perspective.

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Even a broken clock is right twice a day

            1. Cruyff's Eleven
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Hahaha... Well played Sir

          2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I think predicting BOU to thump FUL was about as difficult as predicting MCI to win the league. As for BHA, they were fortunate to come away with a win and especially a clean sheet. Confirmation bias, you have.

        • Eden Wizard
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          The more i see of Arsenal, the more i'm leaning towards a GW16 WC for triple up + Man U, Watford fixture swings...WC 15 for Spurs & Chelsea just isn't inspiring!

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A lot can happen before then. One good performance tonight by Spurs might spark them back into life

            1. Eden Wizard
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              One good performance won't cancel out Arsenal's prolonged form...

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                I haven't watched much of Arsenal tbf, just taking note of their underlying stats. This weekends game will be interesting

          2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Arsenal created very little yesterday

            1. Eden Wizard
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Was a worse performance than of late but still scored twice and show resilience. Overall impressed when their assets are mid priced...

              1. DoobNoob
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                showed resilience? how?

                1. Eden Wizard
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  Going 1-0 down on the stroke of half time to then lead 2-1

          3. Holmes
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            no matter how late or early I WC, wont be able to get Arsenal/Spurs players, so going to just play WC in next IB... 😮

            1. Eden Wizard
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Why is that Holmes? Assume you don't want to break from the template?

              1. Holmes
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                no no, Its fine to drop one of Salah/Kun and avoid premium defenders but every draft I have tried till now, its tricky to fit even one player from those side

                Was trying a draft with Kane and Aubameyang yesterday, couldnt find proper balance...

                1. Eden Wizard
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  Fair play man, with Salah playing up front this week (and it working), i wouldn't consider selling, nor would i Kun!

                  I know what you mean though, no room for Kane, Kun-Laca-Arnie seems a good front three but I've got Salah Hazard KDB midfield so can't afford it! Might have to stop the City triple up.

          4. Olivier Bernards watch
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            the issue is it's far from clear to me which individual players are the best picks. A lot of uncertainty around the best line up still, and no single player strikes me as great value.

        • Maddamotha
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          As a United fan I would love to see Martial nailed on, he is an amazing player. Would be great for FPL too. If he plays he will get you points.

        • _Gunner
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Anything worth a hit for this team? 0FT, 0.2 itb

          Ederson
          Bennett Luiz Robertson
          Hazard Walcott Madisson Mane'
          Aguero Arnautovic Lacazette

          subs: Hamer Neves AWB Stankovic

          1. fenixri
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I dont fancy Walcott but not worth it for hit. Gtg

        • Holmes
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Need one defender and one forward for 2-weeks punt

          1) Kamara and Alonso
          2) Arnautovic and Diop/Zabaleta
          3) Success and Trippier
          4) Any other combo worth 11.3m

          1. Jebiga
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Isnt Diop better than Zaba ?

            1. Holmes
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              havent seen them play, so no idea... thats why have Diop or Zabaleta. Balbuena would have been ideal.

          2. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            3

          3. Klein
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            2

          4. gergin
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Schindler+Arni. I rate Hud CS chances as better to WH.

        • THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Just to remind you all_ Declan Rice very nearly got an assist last week.

          1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            So did lots of players.

          2. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            but he's playing anchor, some say OOP, i say worse than playing CB

        • Jebiga
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Would you bench Fraser this GW if you have Mitrovic and Barkley ?

          1. mike09
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Yes.

            1. JBG
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Yes

        • angelopanayiotou
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Whats better for long term
          a) mane, richarlison, kane
          b) salah, josh murphy, aguero

          1. Jebiga
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            2. just

          2. KUNingas
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            c) Mane, Richarlison, Aguero

            1. Ha.
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              This, until GW 15

        • Dele
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Are people still hanging on to Patricio?

          Playing both him and Doherty has stung me the last 2 weeks. Has the ship sailed?

          1. Astronautovic
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I am in the same situation. Maybe I sell him for fabianski this week

        • Invincibles
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Pat
          Alonso Mendy TAA
          Hazard Mane Rich Maddison
          Kun Arnie Mitro
          Subs: 4, Doherty, awb, hojb
          £1.2m itb, 2ft

          What should I do?

          Don’t like Rich, Maddison or Mitro at the minute

        • Olivier Bernards watch
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          thoughts on Richarlison and Jimenez to Kennedy and Arnie for free? Would mean Kennedy playing this week (WAT) and being first sub most weeks (will probably wildcard around gw15/16).

        • Surprise benchings, formations, and tactical tweaks
          Geoff
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Now, with just over 1/4 of the season gone, we're starting to see some significant changes to formation and players playing new positions. GW10 has also seen some big players missing out on the starting XI.

          It's probably best to start with Liverpool - with Shaqiri and Lallana now pushing for starts, and the formation changed, Salah's game has been significantly impacted. Additionally, we've now seen TAA and Robertson benched, and Mané back in form. What are your thoughts on Liverpool assets after the past weekend?

          Elsewhere, Richarlison continues to start up front and is beginning to get returns, and Siggy is looking his old self. Lukaku and Jota didn't start in GW10, with Rashford and Traoré replacing them, while Holebas, Kabasele, Arnautovic, Vardy, Hazard, and King all missed out for various reasons - which of these are most notable?

          And players like Martial, Barkley, and Morata could all be starting to find form that could push them into our transfer plans. Who else are you keeping an eye on?

          Which lineup inclusions or omissions are significant for your transfer plans, and why? Are there tactical tweaks you've seen that you think will impact our FPL teams?

          1. SW6
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            "Salah's game has been significantly impacted"

            How so?

              1. SW6
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                What is your point? He has the same number of goals as he did at this point last season. Similar assists I'd assume.
                If anything from what I've seen he's playing in a more threatening position with Firmino dropping in more to support attacks rather than finish them. Him being off form is a myth imo.

                1. Eden Wizard
                  • 7 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  You've assumed impacted is a negative, lol.

                  1. SW6
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 1 month ago

                    Ha I did yes. If his game had been significantly impacted is Geoff saying its for the better? And he will score more than 300 this season? I assumed Geoff was saying Salah isn't worth the money anymore, I think he might still be.

                    1. Geoff
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 13 Years
                      7 years, 1 month ago

                      I wasn't saying it was negative, but I guess I also wasn't necessarily saying it was positive 😀

                      I was saying, at the core of it, that there has been a formation change and that Salah's positioning has been altered (impacted). I suspect it has been a positive change judging from what I've seen but I haven't had time to dig into the numbers.

                      And I was mostly talking things changing since the formation tweak - over the season I'm happy enough with him, even though he's so expensive.

                      I would say that the off form thing is, for me, a little true. Mostly in that he's so frustrating to watch - so many chances that he throws away. At his price, I really wish he had better finishing and would pick up bonus more often

                      1. is this real
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 1 month ago

                        It was infuriating seeing Mane get that second goal and take the full bonus from Salah :') Salah looked so much more dangerous the whole game, as usual

                        1. alexmj
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          7 years, 1 month ago

                          Salah got the assist though?

                          1. is this real
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 8 Years
                            7 years, 1 month ago

                            Yep, but Mane got the full bonus, on the rare occasion salah was on track for max bonus. Happy to take the extra 2 points but Mane owners got an extra 8-ish!

            1. Holmes
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              he is probably talking about positive impact

            2. FPL ZB
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              I think it makes him a better option now, but that's just on the eye test

              1. Geoff
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Yeah, I haven't had a chance to look at the stats/heat maps/data yet but I think so too.

                Quite happy with the way things are going, I just wish Mané hadn't matched him for points this week!

          2. NOMONEY
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            we need a strong bench with the dec busy schedule not a long way to go

            1. Geoff
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Agree with this.. I'm considering moving out Wan-Bissaka. Probably will find better things to do but it could pay off

          3. The Train Driver
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Morata is a no go for me, ok yeah he got into some good positions, however he still missed plenty of good chances...

          4. asquishypotato
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Vardy benching was particularly painful to take.

            Talisman theory got blown out of the water this week, either because of injuries or other reasons.

            Chelsea showed they don’t need Hazard if he is a doubt
            Puel showed that Vardy wasn’t in control
            Klopp showed he has options
            Arnie isn’t as bullet proof as we hoped
            Turns out Lukaku is droppable
            God knows what is going to happen with city.

            I’d like to say strong benches will help, but there were too many cameos to help that.

          5. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            That's a very good and thorough summary of the coming Winter.

          6. The Train Driver
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Martial and Barkley are in good form but it feels like both of them are one bad game away from bench...

            1. Pieterke30
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Agreed

            2. Geoff
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Nice comments from Mou about Martial, but I agree.

              Barkley more at risk for me, but they both are right now

          7. SADIO SANÉ
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            - bar GW13 Everton's fixtures aren't brilliant - think Siggy/Rich are ones for my wildcard
            - Salah and Mane are still two of the best picks, especially when they have decent fixtures - CS points can be found elsewhere if needed
            - Martial and Barkley could get decent runs, I'd wait on Martial until after City probably - but where is Sanchez?
            - Watford have some bargains in defence now, but hard to know if they'll be dropped next time they concede/lose
            - Shaq, like Martial and Barkley, could be decent - but you'll need to expect the odd 1-pointer (no different to everyone else, Salah has a few 2-pointers himself this season for much more money)
            - Brooks and Fraser keeping Stan out is interesting too, thought he was a certainty to come back in
            - Demarai Gray is back and given Amartey's injury will surely play going forward, might be a decent option at 5.4 with great fixtures

          8. Eden Wizard
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Firmino moving POO big negative.

            Richy looked lively and, more like a talisman this week. Right now i've got sellers regret!
            Patterson OOP and scoring again.
            Hoping KDB throws spanners tonight.

            1. Geoff
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Could well be that GW10 is a blip and things look more normal with the lineups next week. But the game tonight will be really interesting.

              Feels like the template could be moving around and getting more fluid for the next few weeks before it settles again

              1. Eden Wizard
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Absolutely, and us WC holders hope that's the case!

            2. Dokdok666
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              In regards to both Firmino and KDB, a 9.5m player you will never (C) is not worth it value wise

              1. Eden Wizard
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                I've never understood why that's a thing, please could you help my understanding?
                I buy KDB for the guaranteed 5 points per game not for captaincy...

                1. Dokdok666
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  The "buy-in" for a midfielder is 4.5m. KDB costs 9.8m 5.3m/5.5ppg=0,96ppm(illion). Someone like Fraser, who is an almost extreme point since he is so good value this year, will get you a lot more ppm.

              2. FPL_Crisis
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                That’s an interesting point.
                Being a non Salah owner, I’ve mostly captained Kun or Hazard and on the 2 occasions I’ve capitained my 9.5m options they’ve worked (Mane this week and Vardy few weeks back with his brace)
                It’s always nice having a 3rd option to captain in case one of the big hitters misses out like this week Hazard

              3. WesMantooth
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                A fair point but your putting it to simplistic. Firmino and KDB are both viable options at their current pricepoint because they are "reliable". We have to use our budget, so it makes no sense to simply opt for "value-players", because the way your measuring value is only favouring cheap players.

                There are'nt many players that wil end the season with an average of 5ppg. Firmino and KDB are certainly amongst the players looking likely to do so. They become real options every time their "respective competitors" have form and fixtures that suggests that KDB and Firmino will be amongst the top 6-7 offensive assets over a set of fixtures.

                1. Dokdok666
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  You are missing the point. They are not value if you will never (C) them, which you won't as long as Salah/Mane and Kun/Sterling is in the game

          9. Pieterke30
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Main lesson is Im enclined to go back to a front 2. Switching from 352 to 442 depending on fixtures.

            Arnautovic carrying is injury, Wilson fixtures turning for the worse, dont feel like getting Murray, Wolves and Soton not scoring enough to warrant investment over an even cheaper fwd, Arsenal fixtures not the best and Laca has lost his modjo, Vardy looking sick and uninterested (might change because of owner death, playing for him?), Morata still misses too many chances and one bad game away from the bench,...

            Dont see many interesting strikers in the game right now.

            Whereas in midfield, the Salah-Mané double loiks tempting again, there is Hazard, Sterling, the return of KDB, and cheaper interesting players like Barkley, Martial, Maddison, Richarlison, Fraser,...

            2 up top with a 3rd striker like Success seems the way to go

            1. Scholes Out For Summer
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Who would be the two strikers you go with?? Aguero and --

              1. Pieterke30
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Still Arnautovic, I think, if he’s declared fit. He is great I think, hungry and got great fixtures.

                I also think Aguero might not be essential after SOU game, for sth like 4-5 games. A spell in which I might go with Hazard Salah Mané KDB in midfield.

                1. Scholes Out For Summer
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  hmm interesting point. I was thinking of not going with Aguero for a bit but just not sure how I would ever get him back easily - Aguero to maybe Murray? Interested to see Leicester response after the tragedy, especially Vardy.

          10. tisza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            not sure i saw anything that convinces me that Richarlison is worth holding whilst OOP at that price.
            Robertson going to get the odd rest but not as often as the othe Liverpool defence.

          11. Old Wulfrunian
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            We need a strong bench.At least two nailed players.I made my wc in gw9 and in both gw9 and gw10,two of my "nailed " players didn't play.Sterling+TAA in gw9,Robertson and Hazard in gw10.And in December when the teams will play 3 games in one week and they will also have games in Europe the situation will be even worst.

          12. Mingo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I though I had a strong bench this week with Doherty, Højbjerg & AWB. Ended up with Holebas, Robertson, Hazard (C), Højbjerg & Arnie not playing, leaving me with 7 players returning this week. KDB and Aguero still to play. All in all a disaster of a game week, 35 points and a drop of 66k places to 110k. Priced myself out of Salah by leaving the transfer to Saturday morning. originally had the (vc) on Robertson, paniced when I saw the Liverpool teamsheet and moved it to Frasier, then again to Mitrovic just before the deadline. A KDB 10m cameo would top off one of the worst gameweeks I can think of.

        • Ha.
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          For this weekend and up until GW 15 (when I will WC);

          A. Hazard (c) and Salah
          B. Hazard and Aguero (c)

          1. Klein
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A

        • Catastrophe
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Advice would be greatly appreciated chaps - 0.8 ITB, 2 FT

          Patricio
          Alonso, Robertson, Laporte, Doherty
          Hazard, Salah, Maddison
          Aguero, Arnautovic, Mitrovic

          (Hennessey, Masuaku, AWB, Hojbjerg)

          A) Laporte -> Mendy
          B) Mitrovic -> Wilson
          C) Maddison -> Barkley
          D) AWB, Maddison, Mitrovic -> Mendy, Barkley, King (-4)

          Cheers

          1. Ha.
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A

            Definitely not C

            1. Ha.
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              * D - Mitro and Maddison have great fixtures

          2. CRO KLOPP
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A then B next week imo

          3. KUNingas
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A

          4. mike09
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A

        • banskt
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          King --> Arnautovic or Murray?

          1. Ha.
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Arnie

          2. Tempestic
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Arnie

          3. KUNingas
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Arnie

          4. CRO KLOPP
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Arnie

          5. danishdynamite
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Arnie

          6. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Arnie will be my choice I think. Murray may come in for Mitro next week. King has got to go now!

        • The 12th Man
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Forgive me. For I have sinned!

          Ross Barkley came in last night.

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            for whom?

            1. The 12th Man
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Guendouzi

          2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            😆

        • Obi-1 Kenobi-0
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Patricio Boruc
          Alonso Mendy Robertson Diop AWB
          Salah Hazard Maddison Richarlison Anguissa
          Aguero Mitrovic Wilson
          £0.2m ITB, 2 FTs, OR = 1913.

          Richarlison + Mitrovic -> Pereyra + Arnautovic. Thoughts?

          1. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Worth qualifying that I am unfortunately £0.1m short of doing Mitrovic -> Arnie straight, so have to reduce cost elsewhere in order to afford it.

        • CRO KLOPP
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Ryan
          Alonso TAA Trippier
          Salah Hazard Richarlison Maddy
          Aguero(C) Wilson Mitrović
          Hart Doherty Hojbjerg AWB

          2 ft 0.4 itb
          A) Trippier to Mendy and roll ft
          B) TAA and Rich/Madison to Mendy and 5.0 midfielder ( would have then cash to do Mitro to Arnie week after for free)
          C) something else

          1. mike09
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            A

          2. CRO KLOPP
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers

          3. danishdynamite
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Trip > Mendy & Maddison > anyone but Maddison (Maddison owner here)