Dugout Discussion

Monday Dugout Discussion

16 April 2012 3856 comments
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The Dugout Discussion opens for the concluding fixture of Gameweek 34, which sees 17th placed Wigan Athletic travel down the 3rd placed Arsenal. The team news for the game is in, and the sides line-up as follows…

Arsenal XI: Szczesny, Sagna, Djourou, Vermaelen, Andre Santos, Song, Arteta, Walcott, Rosicky, Benayoun, van Persie.

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Alcaraz, Caldwell, Figueroa, Boyce, McCarthy, McArthur, Beausejour, Moses, Di Santo, Gomez.

A single change from the side that brushed Wolves aside for the Gunners, as Tomas Rosicky comes in for Aaron Ramsey in midfield.

Despite condemning Manchester United to only their fourth defeat of the season, Shaun Maloney isn’t in the visitors squad. Jordi Gomez replaces the Malaysian born Scot.

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  1. Kostja
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Looking Wigans form would it be a smart decision not to double up on Fulham defenders and replace Kelly or Schwarzer with Vorm, Caulker or Turner???

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  2. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Strangely enough, the highlight of my FPL weekend was a sneaky Szczesny save deep into injury time for an extra point added to my GW total.
    You gotta love this game and what it makes you wish for !!

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  3. COMH
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Why is Wenger such a bitch? Man up and admit the better side won the match. Away in a huff and not speaking to the media. I hate that.

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    1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      'Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser.'

      But seriously, it is a bit sad that he can't lose with a touch of grace.

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    2. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      "such a bitch" 😆

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    3. Nickyboy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      +1

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    4. Abominable Snowy84
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Time wasting was a disgrace again today.

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      1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        It was pretty excessive but that's what every team does when they're in a winning position and against a stronger team. This doesn't make it right but it means the officials are the ones to blame for not resolving the issue.

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      2. COMH
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Nonsense! Al Habsi got booked for it which is fair enough but you can't lost out in much injury time. They did nothing with the possession anyway. Wigan truly deserved the win and Wenger can't admit that. Such a bad loser.

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        1. COMH
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          *they can't have lost out on much added time

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  4. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    So are most people going Tevez over Kun for city coverage?

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yeap, like I've done so. Expecting another thrashing *cross fingers.

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Nope... Micah is my only City coverage... gulp!

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Same here...4vets...gulp indeed!!

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  5. Grounderz
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    So, if Wigan beat United away 1-0 and Arsenal home 2-1, what would Fulham vs Wigan game?

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Same problem here, since i have 3 fulham players, currently considering replacing Kelly with Caulker or Turner.

      They could also let up a bit after getting some pressure off their backs.

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    2. Podge
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Fulham 4 nil probably.
      Shit like that always happens.

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      1. Grounderz
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Hope so.

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    3. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Knowing the way football works Fulham will probably thrash Wigan 6-0.

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  6. Tuchap - Lurker
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Siggy captain vs Bolton anyone?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      him or Tevez

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    2. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Sounds great but Tevez is my captain for now.

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    3. Ismail
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      aguero better option,bolton will be fighting for their season,swansea could start slackening

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    4. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Suarez (c) for me ...ultimate differential

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    5. kraftwerker
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yes.

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      1. Tuchap - Lurker
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Thinking he may be a nice differential after tonight's events. Especially since I'm not going for a city striker.

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  7. tarifapirate
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    What's a good score guys?
    I'm on 88 with Tevez, Siggy and Aguero to come off the bench...
    How does that compare? Good score??

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    1. McTown
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      dry

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    2. Abominable Snowy84
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Lies?

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Rubbish, now bugger off!!

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    4. Nickyboy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      200

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    5. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      He does this every time.

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    6. Congressman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I have 69 with your missus to come off the bench for me. Good score for me?

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  8. Abominable Snowy84
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I would give 1,632 points away for an Arsenal win over Chelsea.

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Id give 1852

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  9. Hazard267
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I might kneejerk van persie out for a hit and bring dgwer in he's a massive waste of a st atm

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    1. McTown
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      if you get rid you prob cant afford to get him back

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      1. Hazard267
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        he hasent had a goal in open play for like 5 games now and has stoke and chelsea up next

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Torres??

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    3. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      RVP has been your main men for the entire season. You sure you wanna turn your back on him?

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  10. Kirby
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    What to do with a 30 point lead for next week?

    A) Walcott > Dempsey
    B) Rooney > Tevez
    C) Both for a 4-point hit
    D) Save FT
    E) Other...

    Cheers 🙂

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Congrats by the way 😉

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      1. Kirby
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Haha cheers 🙂

        Crazy times, expected a point or two from the two games but 6...unbelievable!

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    2. Spoiler
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      thinking B

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      1. Kirby
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, I feel my rivals 'may' do it..nice to cover myself, Rooney performs poorly against Everton and it's City vs. Wolves!

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    3. Demí
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      http://p.twimg.com/AqoGdmiCIAAGuYH.jpg

      And i'd do A out of that

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      1. Kirby
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Brilliant 😆

        And yeah Dempsey seems essential, even against Wigan, he's on top form.

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        😆

        Awesome pic.

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    4. Ismail
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      dont do a hit

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    5. Nickyboy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      cigar, brandy and sort it out tomorrow 😉

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      1. Kirby
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Already on it 😉

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    6. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      B. I dare you. Do it. Stop being a puss! 😛

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      1. Kirby
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Haha I really want to, not done a crazy punt this season and it looks so, so good 🙂

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  11. Shane Ferguson 4.0
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Who would you benched?
    Walcot or Miyaichi?

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    1. McTown
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      tough, go for walcott

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      1. Grounderz
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I'd bench Miyaichi.

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  12. McTown
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Ade and walcott to cisse and dempsey, then get ade in for dgw for rooney next week. no hits. thoughts?

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    1. Spoiler
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      so your going to take ade out this week then get him back in next week? waste IMO

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      1. McTown
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        but need cisse this week, would you drop one of rooney/RVP?

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        1. Spoiler
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          yes rooney and i dont think cisse is that essential for this week, city coverage more

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          1. McTown
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            i dunno cant bring myself to get in a city striker...

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      2. Tuchap - Lurker
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        +55

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  13. Reacher
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Moses m.o.m on sky = no baps in fpl 😉

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Pity

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      1. Reacher
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        huge pit james and i hope i am wrong but you no the baps system random is an understatement!

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  14. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Doing Holt (bla) to Cisse (STO) for free. Shall I hit it?

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    1. Podge
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yes u shall

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      1. Podge
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Still getting Baines ?

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        1. Doctor X
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          If he's injury free. It's a hammy. Should take 2 weeks = DGW

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  15. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Plan ignoring City vs Wolves:

    GW35 save FT

    GW36 - 8pt hit
    Turner > Baines (if fit)
    Sess > Ben Arfa (dgw)
    Rooney > Ade (dgw)
    RVP > Jelavic (dgw)
    9.9m in bank!

    GW37
    Ade > RVP vs Nor

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    1. Reacher
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      like it viper and i am thinking along the same lines BUT the 5-6 or 7 nil city win is pulling me like a magnet to carlitos or kun!

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      1. ViperStripes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I know that's teh big dilemma......Think it mightbeworth Rooney > Tevez & stick with Tevez for DGW

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  16. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    My take from watching the match:

    - Firstly Wigan once again played far better than a team of their position. Defended in deep and counter-attacked superbly. Passing was once again precise, even the clearances were aimed with care, they looked like scoring every time they broke, and they thoroughly deserved to win.
    - Arsenal defence utterly compromised by the double whammy of Koscielny out and Djourou in. Djourou is a liability. Worse still, Verm didn't defend partiuclarly well either.
    - Arsenal midfield looked rudderless after Arteta was injured around 20 minutes. He is the deep-lying playmaker and responsible for starting attacks and indirectly protecting the defence by keeping possession... neither of which we did properly this game.
    - Arteta was replaced by Ramsey. That says it all.
    - Wigan pressed high up the pitch and often broke up Arsenal attacks barely past the halfway line creating goalscoring opportunities...
    - RVP looked off-form again, Walcott too, though this must be seen in context of Wigan marking and tackling like absolute beasts.

    Implications for next GW:
    - Koscielny is back from suspension next match against Chelsea which should improve the defence.
    - Arteta injury is very important. If he's back next match, fine, if not, that's a bad sign for both the defence and attack in my view. As are the odds of Ramsey playing...

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      .... BTW Sagna was crap. Might just be the opposition though.

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Well summarised. Chelsea could kill us with Ramsey playing in midfield

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you. That's the summary I was looking for.
        Trouble is I'm comfortable losing Walvot now, but do I really need Dempsey?

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Personally after seeing what Wigan did to United, Arsenal, and Stoke (in person, I was there) ... I'd be minded to avoid Dempsey against them. RVP, Rooney et al. couldn't get past them in recent weeks, there's no reason to think Dempsey must

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    3. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Really good write up of the match. Don't 100% agree with the RvP comment, I just think Wigan did a superb job of neutralising his threat, otherwise I totally agree.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah... in any case, it's only because RVP sets pretty high standards...

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    4. Bad Pen
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      The saddest part of it all, and we always seem to be saying it at this stage of the season too, is that if Wigan played like that for the whole season they wouldn't be relegation fodder.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Yep. Maybe they just are too talented and need the threat of relegation to motivate them to get their asses in gear 😉

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    5. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      BTW just a correction, Arteta was subbed off for Ramsey on 9 mins - he was injured a couple of minutes before that and went off the field. In the couple of minutes he was off the field, Wigan scored twice...

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  17. COMH
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    People need to stop seeing Aguero or Tevez as a kneejerk transfer. It clearly makes sense the way City are now playing. And they will probably go on to win all their games to try and win the title. If Dempsey never scored 2 at Bolton he would not be so badly sought after and the same with HBA in his last couple of matches. RVP is particularly goal shy atm and Rooney is getting the points but looking pretty flat all the same. I want some exciting players in for the last few games.

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      And which transfers will The Count be making this week?

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I'm thinking of selling both for the City duo. That Wolves game is too good to ignore.

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      so who will you sell for a City striker

      RvP for me i think. Have 2 Fts, think Sess, McClean or Theo need to go. TBF, Clint has good form all season, 16 goals, joint 4th in PL..

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah you don't need Sess + McClean. One will do there I reckon. I totally agree about Dempsey. I've had him for ages now. It's just that if we rewind to the pre Bolton game he was off the radar and his away form was terrible. 2 weeks later and most people want him again. Quite jerky behaviour.

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    3. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      RVP+Rooney -> Tevez+Aguero??

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        +42

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  18. Bazza234
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    rooney or tevez captin ???? cant decide

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  19. Bare bones
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Tevez or aguero then?

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    1. Bazza234
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      tevez he looks like a goal/assist machine da way he linked up wit most players...also seems like he really wants it now

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Rule 1 of FFS: never pay too much attention to posts with words like "da" and "wit" in them

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        1. Bazza234
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          i thaught this was a site about football and opinions,not spelling and grammer

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          1. MJ6987
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Only joking Bazza la 🙂

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            1. Bazza234
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 8 months ago

              dats ok..just kinda annoyed at result of arsenal game lol...tend ta lash out after watchin a bad game 😛

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          2. itstimmehc
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            *thought* and *grammar* 😉

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      There'll no doubt be a members only "versus" article on it later in the week! Either become a member and read it or wait till members have read it and infer what the article said from the comments below it...then bring that one in*

      *Except that these articles are always inconclusive, so that won't work

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  20. som3awy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Just read this on the sun "Blimey, at this rate everyone would 1-2 see Wigan survive!"

    lmao

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Thats actually really bad!

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  21. shifty_pow3rs
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I did....

    Walcott > Petrov
    Bentner > Tevez

    Tevez, RVP, and Rooney up-front now, happy days.

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  22. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Forget the Argy bargy. Where's all the Silva love?

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    1. M.I.A.
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Very good point!

      I think he's being completely overlooked at the moment and could be a good differential...

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  23. 7923dos
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Winning my league by around 80 points

    Is RVP > Tevez a stupid idea?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Not really, this season is form over fixtures, though if Drogba starts v Barca, I'd be tempted by a cheeky Torres punt instead!

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      have a 45 point lead, am considering the same move

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      no
      rvp is off form. tevez is on form.
      and look at the fixture

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  24. सनकी
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Valencia/Walcott>Bale for 4 point hit ?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Nope

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    2. Spoiler
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      yes for walcott imo

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  25. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    So, rethink time...,
    Is Dempsey essential now Wigan are playing well??

    Which would you prefer??

    Walcott to Dempsey
    Rvp to Aguero
    Rooney to Aguero
    Or stick with
    Val/Walcott/Bale/Siggy
    Rvp/Rooney/Cisse
    ??

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    1. shifty_pow3rs
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Take a look at Fulham's remaining fixtures... eugh.
      Go for a city Striker IMO

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        WIG Dgw SUN tot I'll take those

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  26. Hazard267
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    What a shit week for me i hope to do better in the doubles how many players people got for it ive got 6 atm plus given and will have another 2 after a hit so 8 plus given...

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      7, possibly 8.

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    2. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I got 3 only but will be looking forward to do more.

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  27. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    76 with Vermaelen possible Bap(s) to come.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      nice

      you ditching RvP Parm?

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  28. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    i was planning on bringing in demps for C this week but am a bit sceptic now with wigans form. reckon a hit for tevez C is worth it?

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely. I posted a similar question up this page and the guys here said Fulham might beat Wigan or better, thrash. That's how football works anyway. It's like Liverpool beat the top teams but lose to mid-tabled teams.

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  29. Pards Against Humanity
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    What a GW! Third highest score, whilst fielding the fewest number of players this season.

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  30. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Considering a few options for this week, which would you say is the best?

    Have 2 frees

    A) Rooney -> Tevez
    B) Walcott -> Silva
    C) Sessegnon -> Silva
    D) Rooney -> Tevez AND Sess -> Dempsey
    E) None of the above

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      B

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    2. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      A and D, which is Sessegnon to Dempsey, but Sessegnon might score against Villa. You never know when someone goes quiet and all of a sudden... shakalaka BOOM! 😛

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