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How to stop the Mane ‘bad beat’ affecting your FPL season

Fantasy Premier League and the game of Texas Hold’ Em Poker have a lot of similarities.

You’re playing a game of cards throughout the night and there sometimes comes a hand where you have played everything correctly and, statistically, the odds are in your favour.

But then the least probable outcome happens. Your Sadio Mané (£12.5m) Triple Captain goes off injured early. That’s just how the dice rolls sometimes.

In Poker, we call it a ‘bad beat’. Over the course of the night, you have about 150-200 hands to play and there will be times when you do face a bad beat; a statistically unfavourable outcome (more than once in a lot of cases).

What separates the skilled players from the normal players in Poker though are the ones that temperamentally do not get affected by the statistically improbable ‘bad beat’ and continue hammering on with their strategy and trust. Despite a few setbacks along the way, they should end the night with a positive outcome with or without minor adjustments.

Keeping your temperament in control is incredibly important. It’s very easy to go ‘on tilt’ and make a series of low probability, irrational decisions after facing a bad beat.

I was talking to Trigg from the FFS boards while writing this in the morning and he had an important point to make here. As humans, we have a tendency to want instant gratification. We want our money (FPL points) back right away and that sometimes leads to poor decision making.

Clear your head and think again.

Mane, Abraham and Vardy injury updates ahead of FA Cup fourth round weekend

My good friend from the FFS boards, Prophet was telling me about a Serbian saying that when roughly translated in English goes like this – “Mom didn’t blame you for gambling but for trying to dig yourself out of the hole”.

The digging yourself out here means first putting in 100 Euros, then 500 and eventually your house. Tilts are dangerous and we should avoid them. The good Poker players are always looking to hunt and find which of their competitors are going ‘on tilt’ so that they can exploit them for some serious money.

Sometimes, you’re not really lucky throughout the night (or your FPL season) and other nights (seasons) you will be more fortunate than normal. Don’t pay attention to the improbable outcomes. We might not even know about it but we’ve probably made a few ‘statistically stupid’ decisions ourselves that have worked out for the best but it is human tendency to remember only the ones that don’t land on your side of the court.

FPL in some ways is similar. You’re making a skilled decision for an unknown outcome. Arguably, you have more control in Poker but there are similarities. There are factors you control and others you don’t. I wrote an article earlier this season that we are making about 140-150 FPL decisions a season:

  • Initial Team + 2 Wildcards + 1 Free Hit = 4 x 15 = 60
  • 38 Captains = 38
  • 3 Chips = 3
  • 35-55 Transfers throughout the season

Naturally, the FPL chips and your captaincies are your relatively high impact decisions. There is more at stake than normal. But they are still not going to decide your ‘entire’ season. All that has happened with some of the high impact decisions not coming your way is that you have received a ‘bad beat’ in a pot in which you have invested a lot of money. It happens. We’ve seen it over the years and if you want to develop as an FPL/ Poker player, don’t let this affect you, laugh it off, clear your head and continue doing what you are doing.

I’ve faced both sides of the coin very recently. The Jamie Vardy (£9.9m) to Sergio Aguero (£12.0m) captain move which worked out spectacularly (I’ve since sold the Manchester City forward and I’m plotting to get him back). But then, of course, I Triple Captained Mané and that turned out to be quite spectacular in its own right. Just goes to see that no one can really see the future and we’re all playing a game where we’re trying to put ourselves in an advantageous position week on week is all. 

Aguero asking the question of non-owners as De Bruyne ticks over

You have to think of your current position as the starting line. AK, another good friend of mine from the FFS boards says that in Poker, whatever be the case, you have to focus on salvaging your ‘current position’. There is a lot of the game left to be played.  Most of us still have about 50 to 60 decisions remaining in the season. That is about 40% of your decision-making pool. There is a lot you can do to affect that.

  • If you’re ranked at around the 1 million mark right now, 500k is just 37 points ahead. That’s one good differential captaincy in my eyes.
  • If you’re ranked at around 500k right now, 100k is just 59 points ahead right now.
  • If you’re ranked at 100k right now, 10k is only 55 points ahead.

If you look at the game this way, you realize that you can still have the rub of the green, have some decisions working in your way and who knows where you will land at the end of the season.

I’d recommend not looking back at what has already happened; instead, plot further ahead (or just take a break and enjoy the FA Cup football over the weekend) and salvage your current position.

The game is more fun that way. Make yourselves immune to the ‘bad beats’. If you’re far away from your actual goal, experiment with some new strategies for the next season. Re-condition your mind to the changing nature of FPL, or check if your current strategy will take you through this night (season) of FPL Poker and go past the bad beats.

Don’t forget it’s a game that we’re playing for fun based around a sport we watch for enjoyment (supposedly!). Don’t make it anything else. I’m currently sitting at an overall rank of 528 and I definitely intend on having fun with the privileged position I am in. Let’s see where it takes me.

Here’s to no more bad beats.

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  1. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Is there an article for the teams that are likely to miss gw 28 ?

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Teams that make the League cup final will blank. So Arsenal vs Man City will be moved to another gameweek along with one of either:

      Aston Villa vs Sheff Utd
      or
      Norwich vs Leicester

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks

  2. Whazza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone else on WC? Would be interested to share thoughts..

    Here's me at the moment

    Henderson Button
    TAA Robbo Lundstram Lascelles C.Taylor
    Salah KDB Martial Grealish Hayden
    Aguero Ings DCL

    0.0 bank

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not on WC but I think I'd want a Wolves attacker.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Certainly open to that, but maybe after the next two (mun, LEI). They then have NOR and DCL's fixtures turn

    2. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I want Agüero, but are you not concerned that once the CL is back Agüero will be rested more often than not? CL will surely be the priority as the league is lost.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Yes I'm aware Aguero might be a short-term pick, should be fine for Spurs and West Ham I'd think.

    3. Gudjohnsen
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not sure about Martial anynore.
      United look bad without Rashford.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I have value tied up in him so thinking of keeping for WOL and WAT at home in the next 3. Could be on pens too?

      2. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        How long is Pogba out? Without Rashford and him they are worse than Liverpool would be without Mane and Salah.

        1. Whazza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          No idea tbh. I watched the Burnley game and Martial was still getting chances. 5 shots I think and should have scored vs Pool the gw before.

    4. Partick Bateman
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Got one lined up that looks similar (not as good) but have gone with McCarthy as 2nd keeper to cover possible Henderson blanks.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I would love that but can't make it work right now.. Hendo blanks gw31 vs United but that's the FH gw

    5. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Henderson - McCarthy
      TAA - Robbo - Lundstram - Lascelles - Tomkins
      Salah - KDB - Grealish - Traore - Cantwell
      Auba - Jimenez - Ings

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Looks great! Set for BB already. Tomkins at 5.0 quite expensive imo to be benched most weeks?

        1. diesel001
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          You can go for another CPL defender if you want (Joel Ward or Gary Cahill)

    6. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Have you already used your BB chip?

      Button, C.Taylor & Hayden aren't good picks if you still need to use your BB.

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I haven't. That's a very good point. Not sure I want too much value tied up on the bench though. Taylor has started the last 7 so could be OK BB player?

        1. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Henderson McCarthy
          TAA Robbo Stevens/Lundy Lascelles Stephens
          Salah KDB Grealish Traore Fleck
          Aguero Jimenez Ings

          Here's how mine is shaping up atm.

          I don't think I'm leaving too much value their on my bench.

          1. Whazza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            That looks template tbf for what I've seen so far. Very good.
            I'd still be a bit bothered by paying 0.7 more for Fleck than Hayden, I mean they are both probably likely to score 2-3 points when you BB? And it's only for one gw of plenty remaining

    7. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Looking at:

      Henderson
      TAA, Gomez, Lundstram, Stephens, Tanganga
      Salah, Kdb, Perez, Traore, Luiz
      Aguero, Aubameyang, Ings

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Nice on except I don't think Tanganga and Luiz are nailed on? Perez could be a cheeky differential, can we count on him starting?

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          I actually have the .2 to get Lascelles but I’m unsure who the nailed Newcastle CB’s are. Perez is a decent differential I think

          1. Whazza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            I was unsure as well but everyone seem to think Lascelles is nailed on, club captain as well

            1. FPL Blow-In
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 3 months ago

              He’s always been club captain though and wasn’t nailed earlier

              1. Whazza
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 3 months ago

                He was out injured I think

    8. Dade1979
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I’m on wc, here’s where I’m at:
      Gk: Henderson/Foster
      Def: TAA, Robbo, Lundstram, Stephens, Lascelles
      Mid: Salah, KdB, Grealish, Traoré, Fleck
      Att: Auba, Ings, Jimenez
      1.7 ITB
      Might do Traoré to Dilva

      1. Whazza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Very good, are you convinced by Auba or is he there as a differential?

  3. El Presidente
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Boring weekend

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Watch the match and enjoy football. Time to scout Spurs an saints assets.

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      See below, still have my pants up

  4. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on the wildcard..?

    Henderson McCarthy

    TAA VVD Lascelles Lundstram Williams

    KDB Grealish Salah Traore Fleck

    Aguero Jiminez Wilson (placeholder for ings)

    0.2 ITB

    Thanks!.

  5. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    I must say it feels weird to have a weekend with no PANTS DOWN

  6. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Hanley G

    Burnley 0-1 Norwich

    If things stay the same then Burnley vs Watford will go ahead in the PL in GW 31

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Amazing

  7. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Hanley goal. Rip up those WC drafts.

    1. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      LOL

  8. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Son apparently having another bad game.

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      He’ll score against City

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      As if he scores now LOL

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      and scores.

  9. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Drmic G

    Burnley 0-2 Norwich

    If things stay the same then Burnley vs Watford will go ahead in the PL in GW 31

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Deeney,Wood

  10. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Son G

    1. michudagawd
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Lamela A.

  11. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Just not the same without a PANTS DOWN is it?

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Are you talking about last nights Tinder date?

      1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Blank gameweeks 🙁

  12. Bouncebackability
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Grant, I would have taken just a cleanie against Bournemouth, yet you didn’t even start. You’re just rubbing it in now

  13. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Besic G.

    Lundstram owners worried? 😉

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Still in denial

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        But but value ....

    2. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Aye

    3. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Trembling....

  14. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Son G

    Southampton 0-1 Tottenham

    If things stay as they are then one of Southampton vs Arsenal or Wolves vs Bournemouth will go ahead in the PL in GW31

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Fixturebot 3000

  15. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Mo besic goal, Lord Lund coming to an end

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Nah. Millwall (a Championship team) is his level. Lundstram has done it against PL opposition.

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Besic started last game and came on for Lund 2 games before that 🙂 looking way sharper and fitter atm

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Yes, Lundstram is a big risk now. Started only 10 matches last year. The problem is, that if he wins his place back, he is almost essential. Amd everyone has money tied in him.

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      We could do with him back at Everton.

  16. DavidFPL
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    wildcard activated, up to 20k which is very good for me but have a lot of fires.
    (New to wildcard) *= I’m unsure about
    Henderson Pope
    TAA, Lundstram* (Digne), (Pereira) (Stevens).
    Grealish, (Salah*), De Bruyne*, (Traore), (Fleck)
    Ings*, (Deeney*), (Auba*)
    As you can see I’m not confident at all in a lot of my choices.
    Players I’m considering and want but have big ? Richarlison, Jimenez and Ayoze Perez.
    Don’t wanna touch Man City apart from KDB, would love Aguero if I was certain on Pep, same for Mahrez and Mendy.
    Any players I’m not considering that I should be?

    1. DavidFPL
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      1.4 ITB

    2. FPL Theorist
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      No 3rd LIV?

      1. DavidFPL
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Temptation for Robertson or VVD. I actually have Firmino but with all 3 of these players I’m worried the longer the season goes the more Liverpool will take the concentration off the Premier league onto other competitions. I see Origi as a potential interesting player in the future and Minamimo/Shaq

  17. Gobigorgohome
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Thata the ene of Lundatram

    1. Niho992
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      goal and CS vs Palace incoming

  18. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Pieters goal

    Burnley 1 - Norwich 2

  19. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ajayi sent off for fouling Ajeti

    1. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      ...And finally, the bake sale to raise money for the car wash has been cancelled due to confusion.

  20. The Train Driver
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Besic goal... Hmm, can this be the end of Lord Lund?

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Read Tsparkes just above^

  21. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    So that means 3 points for unlucky Mane triple captainers right?

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Yep

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      What means that?!?

      1. Skalla
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        It means that TC'ers are getting 2 more pts than everyone else with Mane...

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Ok 😉 3-1 = 2 has been no big news as long as I can remember.

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Why?

  22. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Barca useless.

  23. Strchld
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    How likely Mane going to miss Norwich game also?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Maybe a sub given CL midweek.

  24. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Chelsea: Caballero, Azpilicueta, Zouma, Tomori, Alonso, Barkley, Kovacic, Mount, Pedro, Batshuayi, Hudson-Odoi
    Subs: Cumming, Christensen, Lamptey, Maatsen, Emerson, Gilmour, Willian

    1. Skalla
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Alonso is back!

  25. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Value tied in Mane so need to keep him right?

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      If he is out for more than one GW then I am getting rid.

    2. antis0cial
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Depends how long he is out

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Needs to score really well to make up for it.

      1. OverTinker
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Have Salah so may be I should get rid then

    4. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      If he is going to miss GW24 and GW25 I would sell but have a plan to get him or Salah back in for Pool's good run of fixtures

  26. antis0cial
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Tempted by wc, how’s it look, worth it?

    Wc team:
    Hendo McCarthy
    TAA Robbo Digne Lund Rico
    Salah KDB Grealish Traore Perez
    Auba Jime Ings

    Current team:
    Guaita Martin
    TAA Digne Soy Lund Rico
    Salah KDB Mane Mads Traore
    Vardy Ings Greenwood

  27. Skalla
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ings misses another chance...

  28. Cto
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    I’m not understanding why people thing that Mo Besic scoring against Millwall in the cup will affect Lundstrams chances of a starting 11 place
    Clueless

    1. _Ninja_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Besic started the last league game as well though.

  29. PL Ball
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Ings has had a sea of chances today..

  30. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Wouldn't worry about Ings 90 mins today. Nor players like Aurier, Alli, Son etc. Have a week off then will get a winter break. So no realistic prospect of getting tired out over the next few GWs.