634x258 Season Review
19 June 2012 1244 comments
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Our final club under analysis in the series of “Promoted Teams” articles is West Ham. Finishing third in last season’s npower Championship, the London outfit arrive back in the top flight after just a season’s exodus, following a 2-1 play-off final win over Ian Holloway’s Blackpool:

Finishing bottom of the Premier League under the guidance of Avraam Grant in 2010/11, the Hammers quickly sacked the Israeli following a dismal campaign and turned to Sam Allardyce last June, handing the former Bolton boss a two-year contract. Despite losing the likes of Scott Parker, Demba Ba, Robbie Keane and Thomas Hitzlsperger, Big Sam ensured his side returned to the top-flight at the first attempt by snapping up plenty of experienced campaigners in an overhaul of the Hammers’ squad.

The Statistics

PWDLFAGDPCS
Total46241488148+338617
Home2311844126+15417
Away2313644022+184510

CS = Cleansheets

West Ham were the most resilient of the three promoted clubs, losing just eight of their 46 league games – in comparison, Reading and Southampton lost 11 and 10 times respectively. At home, however, Allardyce’s men seemed to struggle; while they lost on just four occasions at Upton Park, they won a mere 11 times in front of their own fans. The Hammers notched 41 times, scoring two or more goals on 11 occasions and failing to find the net in four of their 23 home matches. At the back, however, they shipped two or more goals six times and recorded just seven clean sheets.

On the road they proved more successful, picking up 45 points in comparison to 41 at Upton Park. Allardyce’s side lost just four times on their travels, scoring two or more goals 12 times and drawing a blank on just three occasions. Defensively, they returned 10 clean sheets and conceded two or more goals five times.

The Manager

Having picked up over a decade of experience in the Premier League with spells at Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn, Allardyce has developed a playing style that’s fair to say isn’t the most aesthetically pleasing around. His favoured 4-5-1 system, with a penchant for “playing the percentages” which involves plenty of long balls flighted into opposition danger areas, has been successful to a certain degree, though has picked up a fair number of detractors.

While Allardyce feels promotion more than vindicates his tactics, he has failed to appease many West Ham fans with such an approach. The Hammers’ supporters are keen for a more cultured style of play, which has led to the manager publicly slamming the boo-boys and labelling them “deluded”. Needless to say he still has a long way to endear himself to the Upton Park faithful, then.

The Promoted Squad

Listed below are the main protagonists under Allardyce last term, with only those players who started 10 or more games included in the rundown:

Robert Green (45 starts) Has been the Hammers’ first-choice stopper for the past six seasons and missed just four matches in Allardyce’s first campaign but it has been revealed he is leaving Upton Park at the end of the month on a free transfer.

Winston Reid (30 starts, 1 sub app. 3 goals, 3 assists) Suffered a dislocated shoulder in early September which kept him on the sidelines for three months. When fit, he was a regular pick under the new boss and his partnership with James Tomkins at centre-half was crucial to West Ham’s cause over the last few months of the season.

Abdoulaye Faye (25 starts, 4 sub apps. 1 assist) More than familiar with Allardyce’s style of play, having previously featured under Big Sam at Bolton. Benefitted from Reid’s injury absence after signing on a free from Stoke but won’t be featuring for the Hammers next term – he is set to be released at the end of the month when his contract expires.

George McCartney (35 starts, 6 sub apps. 1 goal, 3 assists) Spent last season on loan from Sunderland. Missed only a handful of games after suffering concussion and struggled to get back in the first XI, but a series of solid displays at left-back saw him voted Players’ Player of the Year.

James Tomkins (45 starts, 2 sub apps. 4 goals, 2 assists) Along with Mark Noble, he was one of only two Hammers named in the npower Championship team of the year. Tomkins’ role looks nailed-on at centre-half after a commanding campaign at the back and he is the one West Ham defender who is likely to throw his body in the way of the ball – a side of his game which could well be rewarded in the EA Sports Player Performance Index.

Joey O’Brien (27 starts, 5 sub apps. 1 goal, 2 assists) Yet another former Bolton man in the West Ham ranks, he arrived on a free transfer last summer. His versatility at right-back and midfield, in addition to injuries to others, boosted his game time considerably, though he is likely to struggle for first-team football if West Ham have an injury-free squad to choose from.

Guy Demel (10 starts. 1 assist) Arrived from Hamburg on the final day of the summer transfer window but his season was blighted by injuries. Mainly a right-back, he missed much fo the campaign after sustaining hamstring and thigh problems but returned towards the end of last term and held down a regular role.

Papa Bouba Diop (14 starts, 2 sub apps. 1 goal, 1 assist) Signed from AEK Athens in a one-year deal last summer, he struggled for a regular role and was hampered by hamstring injuries and a lack of form. Set to be released at the end of the month.

Henri Lansbury (13 starts, 10 sub apps. 1 goal, 2 assists) Joined on a one-year loan deal last August but was ruled out for a number of months with a knee injury and has since returned to parent club Arsenal.

Gary O’Niel (12 starts, 7 sub apps. 2 goals, 2 assists) Missed the first half of the season with serious knee injury and featured from the bench on a handful of occasions as he built up his fitness. Found a place in the first-team as the season unwound, suggesting he could feature more prominently should be remain injury-free.

Julian Faubert (28 starts, 8 sub apps. 1 goal, 5 assists) Failed to nail down a regular starting role and started just over half of the Hammers’ games. Mainly used as a right-back but can also feature further up the flank – was dropped by Allardyce for the play-off final and will be released at the end of the month when his contract expires.

Jack Collison (29 starts, 5 sub apps. 6 goals, 4 assists) Utilised in central midfield or wide right, the young Welshman started just over half his side’s games last season – an indication that his game time is far from assured. Played a crucial role in the play-off semi-finals by notching a brace against Cardiff but could struggle to nail down a starting position, with Allardyce looking for experience in the summer transfer market.

Mark Noble (46 starts, 2 sub apps. 8 goals, 10 assists) Voted “Hammer of the Year” last term after playing a part in more goals than any of his team mates. First-choice penalty-taker, he also has the lion’s share of set-pieces and helped himself to eight goals and 10 assists; as a result, could offer Fantasy managers a decent mid-price prospect in the season ahead.

Matt Taylor (29 starts, 2 sub apps. 1 goal, 9 assists) Joined from Bolton last summer and added a wealth of top-flight experience to the Hammers’ first-team. His game time was curtailed by a couple of calf injuries and, while Taylor provided a strong creative threat from midfield, Allardyce also utilised him at left-back on occasion.

Kevin Nolan (45 starts. 13 goals , 5 assists) One of Allardyce’s most trusted lieutenants, he joined up in a five-year deal from Newcastle last summer and was immediately made captain. His top-flight experience will be vital this upcoming season and, with double-figure returns in each of his last two campaigns in the Premier League, his price tag will be eagerly anticipated by Fantasy managers looking for a mid-price bargain.

Sam Baldock (10 starts, 13 sub apps. 5 goals) Snapped up on a four-year deal from MK Dons last summer but has failed to establish himself as a regular at Upton Park. Is likely to struggle for starts once again, though his speed could see him afforded some game time from the bench as an impact sub late in on matches.

Carlton Cole (31 starts, 12 sub apps. 15 goals, 6 assists) Started and finished the season strongly but flitted in and out the first-team after struggling for consistency. Featured in the first-team in two-thirds of the Hammers’ games, suggesting he has yet to persuade Allardyce he is worthy of a regular role.

Ricardo Vaz Te (16 starts, 2 sub apps. 12 goals) Snapped up from Barnsley in January 2012 and, aside from notching the play-off final winner against Blackpool, made a significant impact. Averaging almost a goal per start under Allardyce, he was voted Championship signing of the season – could well get the nod ahead of Cole if the 4-5-1 system is maintained, particularly at home.

Potential Targets

As mentioned above, the club are set for another summer of rebuilding, with many faces leaving by the start of July. Hammers co-chairman David Gold recently revealed they intend to sign “up to four players”, though the rumour mill is already in overdrive as to who the new faces may be.

With Rob Green on his way out of Upton Park, Allardyce has turned to a familiar face to fill the breach between the posts. Jussi Jaaskelainen will arrive on July 1 in a one-year deal with an option for a further 12 months – the Bolton keeper is a free agent and is no longer first-choice at the Reebok, having lost his place to Adam Bogdan last term.

Once again, Allardyce is targeting experienced campaigners as he looks to establish a top-flight foothold. Intriguingly, former Real Madrid man Guti is being lined up for a move, according to the player’s representatives – he is available on a free transfer after being released by Turkish club Besiktas.

Matt Jarvis is also on the radar. Reports suggest West Ham have already had a bid rejected for the Wolves winger but are likely to increase their initial offer of £4m – the Molineux outfit are keen to keep their influential wide man as they attempt to engineer a quick return to the Premier League and are thought to be looking for around £10m for his services.

Having recently been caught on camera with Juventus director Fabio Paratic, Allardyce has been linked with a move for winger Milos Krasic. Bearing in mind he brought the likes of Jay Jay Okocha and Nicklas Anelka to Bolton, this may not as unlikely as it sounds – Big Sam clearly has the potential to pull off the most unexpected of deals.

At the back, Jonas Olsson has also caught Allardyce’s eye. The West Brom centre-half has just one year left of his contract and could be the ideal partner for Tomkins in the heart of defence. Crystal Palace’s highly-rated young winger Wilfred Zaha and Wigan’s out-of-contract midfielder Mohamed Diame have also been linked with moves. It’s likely to be a busy summer, then, with business on the agenda all the way up till the end of August.

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  1. isacki: full casual
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    FFS Euro 2012 Matchday 3 Day 3 report coming up on next page.

    BTW this report timing has got almost telepathic with Light Knight. I come on here to post it and BAM! Yours is there!

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      😯

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        Group B report on previous page

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  2. isacki: full casual
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    Order of Extreme Valour - FFS Euro 2012 - Matchday 3 Day 3 Report

    So this is it. The final report of the group stage. The Order of Extreme Valour has seen blindingly obscure master-picks take fantasy football by storm. St Ledger. Kuba. Cabaye. Andersen. Torres. Krohn-Dehli. Krohn-Dehli. Krohn-Dehli. Sorry, I seem to have got stuck in a loop there...

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to presenting the FFS Euro 2012 Matchday 3 award tomorrow (would prefer tonight but life, as usual, intervenes...). With Ginkapo the leader with a goal from that man Krohn-Dehli, the onus was on the challengers to produce an even bigger shock. Still, it couldn't be upsets all the way, and wins to nil from Italy and Spain meant all the points went to the usual suspects in defence. Or should I say, all but one. Doosra was shockingly unlucky to lose Chiellini to a hamstring injury on 57 minutes, just 3 minutes short of the 60 minutes required for a clean sheet. ENR also gets credit for getting 5 points out of Balzaretti, who had not played a single minute until now. With this being one of the quieter nights, Ginkapo stays in the lead.

    Onto the last night of the group stage and the last chance to wrest the trophy from Ginkapo's brave, valorous, strong, rugged, beautiful.... *AHEM* hands. Yes. England v Ukraine and France v Sweden. First, let me describe what it was like reading through your squads.

    Debuchy
    Lescott
    Benzema
    Debuchy
    Lescott
    Benzema
    Debuchy
    Lescott
    Benzema

    Yes, with 14, 20 and 22 picks respectively, a lot of people seem fairly certain about those results! So who thought different tonight? First up we have two Swedish players: Jafalad has gone for J Olsson and In Like Flynn has interestingly picked Ibrahimovic to surprise the French. For France, in defence we have Lloris (Doosra, Drinky), uncertain starter Clichy (ENR's Valour XV) and Mexes (In Like Flynn, Mark). Ribery is picked by surprisingly few players (The Light Knight, Roscola, Count of Monte Hristo). Out all alone like the shy ("fat"? Hmmm... I think I'd better stick with "shy") kid at the school disco is ENR who has dropped a bombshell in going for Diarra.

    In a surprisingly patriotic twist, only one person/traitor/cheese eating surrender monkey has gone for Ukraine and what a surprise, it is ex-French manager ENR who has backed keeper Pyatov to stop our brave, stupid boys! In a lovely end to the group stage campaign, English differentials abound. Hart is picked in goal by three (Ginkapo, Jafalad, Gaz Downright), while Count of Monte Hristo goes for Ashley Cole. Things really hot up though in attack, with supersub Walcott (ENR), Gerrard (Billy Ketsu, Count of Monte Hristo) and our cheeky chappy Welbeck (Ginkapo, Jafalad, China Mag). Last, but not least at all, we round up our differentials with Wayne Rooney, owned by ENR, Roscola and... fittingly, the ever brave Doosra.

    Thank you all. This is the final report of Matchday 3. Stay tuned for the announcement of the winner of the FFS Euro 2012 Matchday 3 Order of Extreme Valour tomorrow!

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    1. Heydudes13
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      Sluts

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    2. COMH
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      Classy as always Isacki.

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    3. r0nh
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      Why did I waste my time reading that crap?

      I want those 2 minutes of my life back!!!

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      1. FORCA INTER
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        STFU dude

        great work as always isacki

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        1. r0nh
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          Dont get mad at me, just cause I am smarter than you.

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        2. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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          Just ignore the fool.

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      2. Gaz Downright
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        I'm wondering the same thing. Why would you?

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    4. Pratik
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      Good read as usual. Wonders how the rules will change come the quarterfinals. Anyways, why no mention of A.Young?

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Selected by 10 managers, surprisingly!

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        1. Pratik
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          That's what I thought. 🙂

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    5. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      Quality post... Come on ROSCOLA with the pig or ribery captain win us that award and the tie.....

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    6. The Light Knight
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      Top stuff!

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    7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Blimey! Thanks, Isacki!!! 😀

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    8. isacki: full casual
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      Thanks people, I'm still dealing with the possibility that I'll be checking the France game to make sure Nasri doesn't outscore Ribery.

      Light Knight it's still not clear to me, what scenarios do we go out? 😀

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      1. The Light Knight
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        I have asked Gaz below to see if he has made a mistake. If not we will just have to get on to the Council 😉

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Hehe. I mean obviously whatever the rules say I have no problem with, I will confess though I am somewhat surprised at still being in peril after the points difference from the first two games...

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    9. Scroobius Mac
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      Me and Demi must be about the least brave pair out there.

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        We haven't been keeping track of that, maybe an award for next year? 😉

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        1. Scroobius Mac
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          I went interesting in the first game, Ninis and Ward both captained. But flopped so have been sensible since.

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  3. Moose™
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    ribery or benzema, who will score more points today? plz help asap

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      Ribery and Benzema are not logged on right now. Busy preparing for the game. Don't worry though, I am sure this Asap chap is doing just fine.

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      1. beric
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        Your's was better 😉

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    2. beric
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      It's hard to know having not seen the game. I'd go for Ribery.

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  4. blue cheese
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    Team news out yet? Thanks!

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    1. Grounderz
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      England's out.

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      1. blue cheese
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        Yeah. Saw that. Thanks. None apart from that I presume?

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        1. som3awy
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          Sweden too

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  5. beric
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    Evs - cheers for the reply about TW's

    3rd in the world?? in Pro league? is that against everyone who has the same number of players in their league? or against everyone playing?

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    1. Pratik
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      it's 3rd in the world, but as others will point out that results can easily be manufactured. If you look at the top team, you'll see why.

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      1. beric
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        Ah yes. That is a suspicious number of subs.

        Evs hasn't cheated though, it makes his result all the more impressive surely?

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        1. Pratik
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          Well debatable....He didn't know of his results till I told him yesterday. If he had managed his team better, made subs and all, he could have done even better.

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          1. beric
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            Evs has 2 teams in the top 15 and I don't have any in the top 99. That's BS.

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            1. Pratik
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              well i have top 3 teams in the top 100 too.....(Pats myself on the back)

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  6. COMH
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    Iniesta over Cesc purely for guaranteed match time?

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    1. beric
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      Yeah if you can afford it. Its so hard to know which Spaniard will get the points.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        I'm giving up on Iniesta probably. I now admit my failings and that doosra was right... Fantasy fools gold

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        1. beric
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          For the two weeks I had him, he got an assist and 2 CS points. That's as good as most the other clowns I've had.

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            Yeah but for his price he's given very poor returns....

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            1. beric
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              Who else will you have from the Spanish midfield/attack?

              Silva seems the best bet to me, but I don't think I want him for his price or the spot he'd take in my front three.

              I might just have 2 defenders.

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              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                I'm now looking at Alonso

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                1. beric
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                  I don't think he's looked very good this tournament.

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                  1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                    I know but on penalties... I probably won't get him.... Not sure

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              2. Freshy
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                Walk with Jesus

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    2. LOCO ABREU
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      yep imo

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  7. hillbillypete
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    weeeeeeeeeeeee're guna scooooooooore one mooooooooooore than yoooooooooou!!!!!!! #ENGLAND

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    1. r0nh
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      English are the joke of the world.

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      1. hillbillypete
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        you are the ar5e hole of the world

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          He's Frankfurt?

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        2. r0nh
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          That is my intent.

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      2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        You are so cool

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  8. UKG
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    Pirlo (c) out -6.... Rooney (c) IN.....this could go very badly, but as a united fan it had to be done. Now come on Rooney get me that might 2 point return! LOL

    Off to the pub for the game, as its probably the last time this year ill get to watch England in a tournement! have a good one all. 🙂

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  9. The Light Knight
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    @ Gaz
    Why will Denmark be knocked out if we lose by 20+ and holland win? Our goal difference is +61 and theirs is -32

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  10. Abominable Snowy84
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    Well here it is, the last day of the group stage. The end of the line for half the participants. Only Brazil and Chile have topped the group. 12 countries are vying for the last 6 quarter final spots. Lets take a look at the players in each match that will help determine who goes through and who goes out.

    Group A)
    Switzerland need only a draw against Slovenia’s (Aatish and Kostja) to top the group. Slovenia need to better Uruguays result but Switerland (JK and James Fitz) lead 88-76. The Swiss have 7 (Rami, Nasri, Young, Benzema x2 and Lescott x2) while the Slovenians have 8 ( Debuchy, M. Olsson, Young, Nasri, Ribery, Benzema and lescott x2).
    In the other tie, Uruguay (4VETS and Emperikal) lead the already eliminated Egypt (Huth the Daddy and ILA) 110-86. Uruguay have 7 (Young, Debuchy x2, Lescott x2, Nasri x2) and Egypt have 8( Welbeck, Benzema, Debuchy, Young, Lescott x2, Nasri x2).

    Group B)
    Brazil have qualified and South Korea are eliminated so I will just have a look at clash of Ghana and Mexico. Ghana (Eoin and Porkie) lead on goal difference coming in to the tie. Mexico (Sleep Talk, Snowy84, Boom Shakalaka and MsRed) led the Ghanians 80-74. Mexico have 8( Rami, Gerrard, Rooney, Nasri, Lescott x2, Benzema x2) and Ghana have 7 ( Young, Benzema, Nasri, Lescott x2, Debuchy x2).

    Group C)
    Ivory Coast are eliminated. Any 2 from the other 3 teams in the group will qualify. Argentina have 6pts, Serbia and Japan who have 3 each. Argentina (Archie and Canadian Football) need only a draw against Serbia to book their quarter final spot and they are leading 88-79. Argentina have 7 (Yarmolenko, Benzema, Nasri, Lescott x2, Debuchy x2). Serbia ( Teddy and Messimerized) have 4 (benzema, Larsson and Debuchy x2).
    Japan (Wazza Goal and Djerbil) lead Ivory Coast (Mull and The Giggs Boson) 105- 88. Japan have 6 ( Hart, Mexes, Nasri, Debuchy, Konoplyanka and Benzema) playing today while the Ivory Coast have 7 (Gerrard, Debuchy, Young, Lescott x2 and Benzema x2).

    Group D)
    Chile have topped the group so it is only 1 of USA, Australia and Turkey will join them. USA need only a draw against Australia (Shipstontrev and Bal4tom) and the USA (Gargarmel and Goldstonemr) are leading 89-74. USA have 8 playing today ( Debuchy, Graqvist, Nasri, Rooney, Hart, Lescott, Ribery and Benzema). Australia have 7 (Hart, M.Olsson, Lescott, Debuchy x2 and Benzema x2).
    Already qualified Chile (Menly and Catmac) lead Turkey ( FC Borecelona and Optimus) 88-77. Turkey have 5 playing ( Lescott, Debuchy, Young and Benzema x2) and Chile have 8 ( Lescott, Young, Benzema, Gerrard, Nasri, Welbeck and Debuchy x2).

    Good Luck to all!

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
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      Great stuff Snowy! I fear this will be the end of Turkey tonight 😥

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      1. Abominable Snowy84
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        It is not looking good for Turkey alright.

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        1. ★FC Borecelona★
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          Yep 🙁

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          1. Abominable Snowy84
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            Its not over yet but ye need a miracle! You might prefer a better FPL season anyway 🙂

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    2. The Light Knight
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      Great work Snowy. My predictions from this
      Switzerland, Uruguay
      Brazil, Mexico
      Argentina, Japan
      Chile, USA

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      1. Abominable Snowy84
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        I hope we get 2nd and then beat JK in the quarters!! That would be fun 😀

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  11. Bclay
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    Stick with Iniesta (6 points) as captain or twist to Benzema?

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    1. som3awy
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      Stick, you need Benzema to score 2. I don't think he will.

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  12. Grounderz
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    The fixtures for Barclays Premier League Season 2012/2013 are out! Check it out!

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/clubs/_/league/eng.1/barclays-premier-league?cc=3436

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      1 day ago lol

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      1. Grounderz
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        Dayum...

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    2. r0nh
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      Breaking news...

      Man City just won the league!!!

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  13. seanie3
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    Should I stick with 12 points for iniesta or twist and give the captaincy to benzema tonight

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      stick

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    2. QPR expects... glory!
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      Ride the Benz baby. I'm dumping Pirlo's 12 to do the same thing

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      1. NATSTER
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        Brave... I'm not sure which attitude the French will bring into the field today. They need just a draw to qualify.

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        1. QPR expects... glory!
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          They do. But if you were them would you want to face Italy or Spain? Nuf said 😉

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  14. OPTA FPL
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    France line up?

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  15. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If England scrape a 1-0 win tonight, the commentators will speak about how England are world beaters.

    If they lose, the commentators will say how everything in the world needs changed.

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      euro beaters surely

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  16. beric
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Bye Lads.

    Come on England!!!

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  17. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Right - just marinaded some pork chops to perdition. Roasted chopped parsnips, mushrooms, roasted garlics, celery, leeks onions and radishes, chicken stock ... and away we go! 🙂

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      RMD - Rate my dinner

      Very nice. Not a fan of mushrooms but apart from that it sounds ideal. Shrooms > Carrots/Asparagus and the WC is complete 🙂

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    2. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You married Doos? If not I'll throw my hat in the ring for food like that. 😉

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        he is, but I'm sure if you made him an offer he couldn't refuse 😛

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        1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          You don't wanna know how far I'll go for roasted chopped parsnips! 🙂

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I'm not sure I want to 😛

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    3. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      celery (c) surely?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        This is cool!!! 😎

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  18. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I would just like to wish everyone good luck tonight and thank the council for setting up the cup competitions... Even if we go out tonight I have enjoyed it and ROSCOLA was a top partner.... Cheers

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      +1

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      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        What??!!! Roscola was your partner too!

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          The slut....

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        2. Gaz Downright
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          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          *prepares for Jerry Springer slap fight*

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
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            😆

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I wish everybody luck....except you and Roscola 😉

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
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        Good luck tonight Mac.... Tough final day match up against you two... We need the pig or ribery to go mental to have a chance

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        1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Yep, mirror Drinky's sentiment. The Uefa Cup has been terrific fun so far... (that fact Poland are heading into the QF's unbeaten doesn't hurt! 😉

          Zwycięstwo POLSCE!

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          1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            *that/the

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  19. COMH
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Would you have Cabaye over Diarra/M'Vila?

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

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    3. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

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    4. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

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    5. Kevin Twine
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

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  20. Demí
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    No Shevchenko for Ukraine tonight. Gutted for him.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
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      Ooooffff. Even as ein Englander I'm disappointed to hear that.

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    2. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
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      Gutted for him, delighted for England though

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      cheers, Opponent has Sheva 😀

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    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      That means it drastically increases the likelihood of England getting a clean sheet, unless the Ukrainian wingers do the damage.

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    5. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Great news for England! Goal-fest.

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    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      England are a very strange price to beat Ukraine 21/20, don't see that too often.

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    7. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      I'm really disappointed. Its his last international game, possibly his last game and in his home country as well. Even though his absence helps England I really wanted him to play, absolute legend.

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  21. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Testing new grav

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    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      take that dirty Grav off! (Kerry man here 😉 )

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  22. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Which one of these?

    A) Ribery & Schweinsteiger
    or
    B) Nasri & Özil
    or
    C) Nasri & Schweinsteiger.

    Thanks 🙂

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      C

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      B

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        A

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    3. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      C

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    4. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Im sticking with Ribery
      He has been their best player IMO

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    5. shermanater
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      a

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  23. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Any France team yet lads?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No Zidane

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      1. Abominable Snowy84
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Or Platini.

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          😆

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        😯

        Get out of here, next you'll be telling me there's no Platini either.

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          read above, not me 😆

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  24. COMH
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    It's a shame were not getting to see Ben Arfa much at the Euro's. I think he should be introduced when Ribery goes quiet in games which he seems to do quite a lot.

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  25. Abominable Snowy84
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So Shevchenko will not start!

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  26. Absinthe Minded
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hart, Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Cole, Milner, Gerrard, Parker, Young, Rooney, Welbeck

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    1. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      As expected

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      beated DEMI

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        lol

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Oh dear...

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      3. Sarnab
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        demi posted this before.

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    3. som3awy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It was announced like 2 hours ago.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        By Demi.

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        1. Waldaz
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          You can't beat Demi.

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  27. COMH
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Boateng or Hummels?

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    1. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hummels

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      1. Absinthe Minded
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        why hummels?

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        1. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
          • 14 Years
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          I just think hes better

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  28. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    @Light Knight

    I reviewed it and this is how it looks if HOL win and DEN lose.

    Three teams on 6 points. Internal point difference between the three teams only decide.

    Internal PD before today's games:
    DEN +35
    GER -3
    HOL -32

    HOL's internal difference can't be changed, so GER has to make DEN lower than -32. The difference is 67.

    I.e. GER must win with 34pts, for HOL to go through on PD. Soz.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
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      Thanks for looking at that, it follows. The UEFA FFS site was a bit unclear: "If 3 or more teams are tied on the same points after the final group match, the Points Difference (GD) will come into play, as it effectively takes into account all the matches." They did mean the points difference between the tied teams (the internal points difference as you call it) didn't they? I mean, that is the sensible thing but that isn't specifically mentioned.

      One last thing, so if we all end up on 6, the ranking is just by internal points difference? So it will also sort out who is group winner?

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        • 15 Years
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        You've raised a very good point. I just assumed they were following the regular UEFA rules. That would make the most sense.

        That being said, for future tournaments, and internal three-way ties like this, it might make more sense if it was decided by most points scored first (or indeed maybe overall?).

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I see now that "points over all 3 matches" is the current final tie-breaker.

          The GD tie-breaker however, can be interpreted both ways.

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
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            Thanks for digging through it Gaz. My assumption all the way has been that they just mirror the UEFA rules in which case your analysis is the right one.

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    2. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
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      Cheers Gaz. That makes sense now. As Isacki said, the site isn't 100% clear so I suppose we will just have to wait and see what the story is.

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  29. dadoune30
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Unofficial but seems Ben Arfa will start and Cabaye benched

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Benzema starts I assume?

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      1. dadoune30
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yep.. Ben Arfa Benzema Ribery front 3

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