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Dugout Discussion September 12

Alexander-Arnold, Salah and Jota start as Liverpool visit Leeds in Gameweek 4

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Gameweek 4 continues with Leeds United hosting Liverpool at Elland Road.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

For Leeds, new signing Daniel James (£6.0m) is on the bench, but Raphinha (£6.5m) starts after his ban for not being released to the Brazil squad was lifted.

Stuart Dallas (£5.5m) also features despite withdrawing from international duty, while Junior Firpo (£4.8m) has recovered from COVID-19 and replaces Pascal Struijk (£4.4m) in the starting XI.

As expected, Liverpool are without the injured Roberto Firmino (£8.8m) but Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) and Harvey Elliot (£5.5m) are fit.

Diogo Jota (£7.7m) starts in attack, while Thiago (£5.4m) replaces Jordan Henderson (£5.0m), who drops to the bench.

GAMEWEEK 4 LINE-UPS

Leeds XI: Meslier, Ayling, Cooper, Llorente, Firpo, Phillips, Dallas, Raphinha, Rodrigo, Harrison, Bamford

Subs: Klaesson, Struijk, Cresswell, Shackleton, Klich, Summerville, James, McCarron, Roberts

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago, Elliot, Salah, Mane, Jota

Subs: Kelleher, Konate, Gomez, Tsimikas, Milner, Henderson, Keita, Jones, Oxlade-Chamberlain

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  1. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    don't hurt me too much Mohamed

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  2. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Another game hoping your most expensive player doesn’t do much. 🙄 Come on Trent and Jota!

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    1. Tin-Tin76
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Hehe, same here

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      1. Tin-Tin76
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        What do I do wrong, when time and time again..more than half my post don’t show?!

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    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I am quite happy for Salah to get some points, it means non owners are really going to fall back (even if EO means captainers do better than me as a non captainer) because I have already earned my C points elsewhere and you can’t look at Salah in isolation.

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      1. Harry the Hack
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        i would assume most non-owners are happy enough with their ronaldo + lukaku points

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        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I doubt many own both of those is lieu of Salah ?

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          1. Harry the Hack
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            more than you think

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            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              what percent ? own Son & Lukaku but not Salah ? can’t see it being more than 2 or 3 %

              I recall last season Kane owned by 50%+ and Son owned by 40% (or whatever) but ownership of both was really really low and a huge differential

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              1. Harry the Hack
                • 14 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                Not Son
                Ronaldo and Lukaku

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                1. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 8 Years
                  2 years, 7 months ago

                  i was making a comparison from last season regarding Son and Kane and how so few owned them both .

                  I simply don’t think there are many that own Ron & Lukaku but no Salah

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                  1. Andy_Social
                    • 11 Years
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    Not sure that's the best comparison as they both were in the same team. It would be more like people owning both Ronaldo and Bruno.

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                    1. Hotdogs for Tea
                      • 8 Years
                      2 years, 7 months ago

                      Salah is 54% ownership, Lukaku 24% and Ron 34%.

                      The likelihood of not owning Salah and owning both of the other two is low. It would be interesting to know what % it actually is though

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          2. Gunneryank
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            I'm convinced it's a viable strategy by one particular poster on this board who is having an exceptional start to his season. 😀

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            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Hello there! Yup, very happy. Good use of an 8-hit!

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            2. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              yes it’s a viable strategy, I just don’t think that many people this week own both Ron & Lukaku but not Salah

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              1. Harry the Hack
                • 14 Years
                2 years, 7 months ago

                I'll put him back when Jota loses minutes. Maybe Ronaldo will make way

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  3. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Let’s go Patrick!

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    1. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Bamford G Raph A would nice juicy

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  4. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Imagine Bamford got a red too 😆

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  5. MidTableFantasy
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Jota + Shaw
    Or
    Gray + TAA

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    1. DontPiqueTooSoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Gray & TAA

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    2. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Wow that's hard. Jota + Shaw

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  6. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry repost, bottomed last article-

    Good afternoon everyone!!! I have nothing in the bank, considering these moves…. Antonio and Mendy(4.4) to Raphinha and Broja and play 3-5-2, would free me up 0.6 to play with the week after too, and leave me with a front 7 of Salah, Jota, Greenwood, Sarr, Raphinha, DCL and Ronaldo and benching Broja.

    Good idea???

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

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      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Nice one!! Cheers mate!! Will wait till Friday but that’s the move I shall
        Go for!!

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  7. TheDragon
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Jota and Raphinha monster hauls please

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    1. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      This. However the way my game week is going, 2 pointers incoming.

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    2. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yes!

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  8. Poison Apple
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Most likely with 1 playing sub & 2 fodders. Deciding between the combi. Thanks for your input

    Bamford +
    A. Alonso
    B. Odegard
    C. Laporte

    Vs

    Raphina +
    1. Benrahma
    2. ASM
    3. Trincao

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  9. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    C’mon Leeds!

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  10. Gunneryank
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Nice, Martin Tyler on the call too. One of the Goats.

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  11. 2EyedTurk
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Got exact money to do Antonio to Lukaku. Or do I stick it out and go Ings to Lukaku later in the week, just in case?

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    1. BOATIES FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      If I had the money for Antonio to Lukaku it would already be done....

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    2. Poison Apple
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      I wld as long as u not gonna wan him back for leeds and brent. Else keep him

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    3. Mozumbus
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Antonio to Lukaku

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  12. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Considering the upcoming weeks and UCL, who would you bring in of Pogba, Torres, Greenwood?

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    1. bso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Or Jota?

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      1. DontPiqueTooSoon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Jota

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        1. bso
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Concerned about his time being cut, Firmino back soon.

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          1. Kun Tozser
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            When?

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            1. bso
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Soon. Started training already.
              https://www.thisisanfield.com/2021/09/roberto-firmino-takes-positive-step-toward-return-from-injury/

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    2. 15th Time Lucky
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      No one yet, wait till after European games. I'd probably go Torres but any could be good. Would avoid Pogba though.

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      1. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Need to get rid of Benrahma. Like Torres best. But we have Pep Roulette. Thanks Lucky.

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        1. 15th Time Lucky
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Roulette comes with all of them (Pogba has more of a positional roulette) but all have high upsides as well. Torres is just that bit cheaper and I think has the best fixtures coming up... can't remember fixtures for sure though.

          Personally I went for Jota, but a big part of that reasoning was for this Leeds game while Firmino's out. I'll be downgrading him in a few weeks for Chelsea defenders.

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          1. bso
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            May have to take my chances with Torres. Makes sense what you say. Thanks mate.

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  13. TomSaints
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    30 points plus needed from Liverpool 3 to rescue this gameweek

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    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Unless youve got salah captained his points will only make things worse

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      1. TomSaints
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        I do have him captained. So inevitable blank haha

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        1. Botman and Robben
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Have him capped too. Not confident.

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      2. 15th Time Lucky
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Surely the majority of active teams have captained Ron or Luk? Is Salah's EO really over 100% in the top million or so teams?

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        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 7 months ago

          yes

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          1. 15th Time Lucky
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 7 months ago

            Well that's annoying, I thought captain Salah would be a nice differential this week.

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  14. Glad He Ate Her
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Worth taking Antonio out for a hit if your bench is literally 4.0-4.5 fodders?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Yes .

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  15. Collie01
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Leeds started with such intensity. It's already end to end stuff.

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  16. _Gunner
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Rodrigo should have scored that!

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  17. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Has the match started yet?

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  18. fc_skrald
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    I need points from Tsimikas...

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    1. Gunneryank
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Don't hold your breath.

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  19. dark91
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Looks like there will be lots of goals in this one

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  20. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Rodrigo wastes Raphinha assist. Damn!

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  21. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    That touch from Raphinha’s taking it in his stride was beautiful

    Such a class player, must have been 0.5XA for the chance created from it for Roddy too

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    1. Gunneryank
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Someone has a man crush. 😛

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  22. Salalalalah
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Watching the game itself is tiring, how do both teams play with such intensity !!

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    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      murder-ball!

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  23. Collie01
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Trent cross close to Jota tap in.

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  24. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Jota should’ve scored

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  25. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    TAA has created most chances in the league this season despite playing only 3 games 😆

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    1. Marvin Moon
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      Everyone has only played three games?

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      1. Marvin Moon
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        My mistake.

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      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Only Pool, Leeds, Burnley Everton have played 3 games

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  26. Gunneryank
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    It is refreshing to see two managers who want their sides to play actual football. My eyes are still burnt from Nuno-ball yesterday.

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  27. 824545201
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Junior Firpo is tragic. Salah and TAA are going to have a field day!

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    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 7 months ago

      He needs to be careful - he’s playing a dangerous game with the way he’s taking on Salah on the front foot - needs to reign it in a bit

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  28. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Mane in the mood

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  29. Muchentuchel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Thiago
    is
    awful

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  30. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Cooper adding to his shoulder stripes

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