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Chelsea v Norwich City is the first of six Premier League matches to take place on Saturday, with kick-off at Stamford Bridge at 12:30 BST.

As was inevitable, there are a handful of notable benchings to report from Thomas Tuchel’s latest teamsheet.

Marcos Alonso (£5.9m) is only a substitute for the third Gameweek in a row, while Andreas Christensen (£5.1m) and Cesar Azpilicueta (£6.2m) make way from the side that defeated Brentford 1-0 last week.

The non-inclusion of Alonso in the Chelsea XI means that the in-form Ben Chilwell (£5.7m), the most-bought Fantasy Premier League (FPL) defender of Gameweek 9, is given another start at left wing-back.

Antonio Rudiger (£5.8m) and Thiago Silva (£5.5m) are back in the side after missing out last weekend, while Reece James (£5.5m) gets a run-out at right wing-back for only the second time in six Gameweeks.

Kai Havertz (£8.1m) looks poised to lead the line in the absence of the injured Timo Werner (£8.6m) and Romelu Lukaku (£11.6m), with the ‘out of position’ German joined by Mason Mount (£7.4m) and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.3m) in the hosts’ attack.

Alonso, Lukaku and Azpilicueta are three of the five most-owned Chelsea assets in FPL, with Edouard Mendy (£6.1m) and Rudiger the only others with double-digit ownerships.

Chilwell and Havertz are the most-backed within the top 10k, however – and Havertz has been handed the armband by over 11% of these leading managers, with only Mohamed Salah (£12.8m) captained by more:

As for Norwich, who are without the ineligible loanee Billy Gilmour (£4.4m) today, they are unchanged yet again following a recent upturn in performances in Daniel Farke’s new 3-5-2 set-up.

GAMEWEEK 9 LINE-UPS

Chelsea XI: Mendy, James, Rudiger, Thiago Silva, Chalobah, Chilwell, Jorginho, Kovacic,Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Havertz.

Substitutes: Arrizabalaga, Alonso, Christensen, Loftus-Cheek, Saul, Barkley, Ziyech, Azpilicueta, Sarr.

Norwich City XI: Krul, Aarons, Kabak, Hanley, Gibson, Giannoulis, Lees-Melou, Normann, McLean, Sargent, Pukki.

Substitutes: Gunn, Rupp, Dowell, Rashica, Tzolis, Sorensen, Williams, Idah, Omobamidele.

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  1. Holmes
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Just a Vardy blank now and all will be good

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      #sign

  2. Drexl Spivey
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Literally a gnat's hair away from doing Sarr to Mount yesterday.

    (kicks the filing cabinet - composes oneself)

    1. dinamika
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Almost triple Captain mount

      1. Drexl Spivey
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ooooft!

    2. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Shoulda coulda woulda

  3. FantasyClub
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Havertz is going to be in the naughty corner for a while. Tuchel won’t even play him next GE

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Why what did he do or not do?

      1. Bojam
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        He did fine. Led the line effectively. Doubt Tuchel has a problem with his performance. From an FPL perspective though he was obviously a big let down.

  4. Milk, 1 Šuker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Any line into Marcal's absence?

    1. Il Capitano
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      He's poo

      1. Il Capitano
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Be in seriousness, I think Ait-Nouri has been breathing down his neck all season

        1. Il Capitano
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Lol ok, just seen he isn't in the squad and hasn't been training all week

  5. Original Sin
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Chose havertz over Mount. But at least I got Chilwell and Rudiger right. 24 from 3

  6. Liberate HK - antichinazi
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Someone in my league got Mount (C) and Chilwell, crazy

  7. Bartowski
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Last place in a fanteam entry - would you prefer Saint Maxim or Maddison? Ta

    1. Duke Silver ☑
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      ASM

      1. mgilbert86
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Asm

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      For the season long game? I wouldn't pick either.

      1. Bartowski
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        No just this week and I managed to squeeze in Mbuemo instead. Thanks.

  8. Bavarian
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Havertz what a legend...I want my -4 back now

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Told you he was like a scooter vs 911 Turbo.

      1. Bavarian
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly man...i remember very well 🙁

  9. RogDog_jimmy
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Sometimes you just have to laugh. Oh well.

    If Salah blanks then the Havertz(c) is hardly a big deal. But really - it’s very funny.

    This decision following dropping Son for a hit - feels like the FPL gods are trying to teach me something…just not sure what.

    1. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      FPL gods 😀

    2. Philosopher's Stones
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Well, if there's an FPL god, I need his phone number. I just wanna talk.

      1. RogDog_jimmy
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ha. Just scream to the heavens. (Or maybe scream down - seems more likely)

  10. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Nowhere for Havertz cappers to hide?

    1. 1984 TC
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      No

  11. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    I nearly went CHO but went havertz ..

  12. tbos83
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Havertz has to go down as one of the worst traps in fpl history

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I am ashamed

  13. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Was havertz that bad or unlucky?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      He was poor.

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        I think he is not PL material, his body just doesn't scream a PL success.

        1. pjomara
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Who would have thought that someone who only scored 4 goals all last season didn't score.

    2. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      He is not PL quality, not anywhere near. His balance should be 30 in fifa.

    3. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      He was that bad. Can only remember him taking one shot that was deflected for a corner.

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        So do we bin him straight away?

        1. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Unless Lukaku looks like he's coming back next game, I'd probably hold at least for Newcastle. Just have to wait and see.

    4. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Didn't get into scoring positions tbf

    5. Abraham & Cheese
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I disagree. Havertz is a young star and can play many positions and has held his own in the PL and CL for Chelsea. But we all know that good IRL players don't always translate into amazing FPL players and vice versa. He had a decent game and helped Chelsea win, creating space for the mids and flanks to run into. Norwich also had a defender dedicated to just following him around so he rarely had the space to get a decent shot off.

      But from a FPL perspective, Havertz just hasn't proved himself as a player worth investing in with his points per £ cost returns in the last seasons. So far he hasn't proven his worth keeping/investing for his price.

  14. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Havertz comes in and goes out of my team without seeing the inside.

    Best replacement?

    1) Son
    2) Mount
    3) Foden

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Has to be Mount 😉

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Wow surely hsve to give him another game ? Although son is tempting

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Not from what I saw. If you cant take advantage against the likes of Hanley then it's not going to be easy against other defenders. Just poor.

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Ok I took -4 to get him so feel i need to give another game although fmaybe tempted to replace for a 8.1m player

      2. FantasyClub
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Mate, Tuchel himself doesn’t even rate Havertz. I would get rid ASAP!

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Ok cheers i look at replacement

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Son

    4. FantasyClub
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Might feel like point chasing but I’d still go Mount for next 2

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Don’t people say you shouldn’t chase last weeks points though ?

        1. FantasyClub
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah but I’d get him in for the fixtures not just simply coz he hauled. Foden isn’t nailed and Son doesn’t have the easiest fixtures

    5. Rankbajin
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I kept my FT in my pocket this week to do swap out of Ronaldo and Benrhama to Son and whoever next week.
      Might change my mind and do Auby and Mount instead.

    6. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Son

  15. Firmino
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Switch Christensen to
    A) Chilwell
    B) James
    C) Keep

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Lets see what happens midweek.

    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Wait on midweek game

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      it's tough because Silva is playing well and looking capable of playing twice in a week

    4. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      A

  16. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Not actually had any players play yet (Christensen benched), but currently on a 200k drop on LiveFPL. Scary.

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty good actually considering you have zero points.

  17. tbos83
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    If Havertz is rested midweek I will give him one more chance against Newc.

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Midweek?

      1. tbos83
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        They have an EFL game

      2. Crunchie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        EPL Cup

    2. FantasyClub
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Bro get rid. What part of Havertz game today gives you hope? He was so poor

  18. 1984 TC
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    How do I get rid or fix the big green drop down thing (don’t even know how to explain it), at the top of the page, which shows all the sub links? It seems to be stuck….

    1. 1984 TC
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Ok, it magically disappeared now. Thanks for your help.

      1. Rankbajin
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        yeh that was weird.

  19. Original Sin
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Didn't think Mount was nailed though. He came on for 25 minutes cameos in the last 2 games. Was he certain to start this game? Or is he just on because of Kaku injury?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Coming back to full fitness. He's in their strongest XI.

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly, coming back to fill fitness
        Massive captain hindsight, didn't see anyone going for him on here

          1. Crunchie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Not captain though, that was/is always Salah this week

          2. WVA
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Exactly you didn't go for him
            FPL is all luck matey

      2. Original Sin
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        So most probably he will start from now onward? Or Havertz---> Mount is also a trap?

  20. Ronnies
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Best option;

    Greenwood to:

    A) Mount
    B) Mbuemo

    Cheers.

    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Havertz

      1. FantasyClub
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Lmfao

    2. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      B

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      A get Chillwell

    2. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Pointless exercise after the fact

  21. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Kai cappers checking in later: https://i.imgflip.com/5rj3rf.jpg

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Screw you

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Time for a user name change.

        1. Cok3y5murf
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          He is Zico Senna, a serial moaner who changes his name frequently

    2. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Lol mean lol

    3. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      LOL

    4. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      😆

    5. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      😆

    6. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      A truly moronic idea.

    7. Eze Really?
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Beat this. took ESR for Havertz for -4 (KaaaaaK)

      1. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ooooof!

    8. pjomara
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      They should be happy with the clean pt.
      That's why people captained Kai right - a CS was guaranteed v Norwich? It was hardly because they thought he'd score

      1. pjomara
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        *clean sheet pt

  22. WVA
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    How many BAPS for Rudi with that clean sheet and assist?

    1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Zero

    2. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah right.

  23. Silecro
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Watched a lot of games in my life, but this must be one of the easiest clean sheets i've ever seen. Norwich never came even remotely close to creating any sort of chance, just sickeningly bad from them. Mendy had maybe 5-7 touches the entire game

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Frustrated Azpi owner here.

      1. Silecro
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        yeah I feel you, he would easily get double digits in this game

    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Leeds will still manage to concede next GW (former Ayling owner)

  24. F4L
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    If Farke isn't sacked now, I don't think he ever will be

  25. mgilbert86
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Gilmour to de bruyne

    Or

    Saint max-> Vardy/kane

    1. Philosopher's Stones
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Robbed a bank?

      1. mgilbert86
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Lukaku to toney

        1. Philosopher's Stones
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          ASM better than Gilmour. So, the first option.

  26. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Are people looking at getting James now? His minutes have been so limited and it was only Norwich. Is he too risky?

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      He's still a risky pick. Fantastic when he starts, but that's not always & he cameos.

      Chalobah has been solid & Azpi will play mostly.

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      sold him this week for Rudiger 😆 Idk, Chalobah is playing well and Azpi has done well in the RWB spot this season, and the 1 pointers are annoying. The upside of owning is obviously pretty big though.

    3. BIGREDDOG
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      James and Chilly both great picks, both gonna play a lot. If I had Rudi/azpi then it would be a luxury move to switch to one of them.

    4. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Steering clear. Burnt me once.

  27. The Mandalorian
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Well done Mount owners.

    1. tbos83
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Said through gritted teeth

      1. Elfozzie 42
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ha!

  28. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Are the lessons from this.. 1, chilwell is better option than TAA for significantly less? 2, CHO worth a gamble at 5.4? 3, Chelsea defender essential?

  29. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    TAA Cancelo Chilwell is here to stay

    1. Liberate HK - antichinazi
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      with Livra on bench, perfect

    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Reckon that becomes the new template alongside Livramento and Duffy