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12 August 2012 2794 comments
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. DropPointsNotBombs
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    I'm sorry but that is a red card, end of

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  2. The Bandit
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    Anyone who thinks that wasn't a red is blind.... 🙄

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    1. Sarnab
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      I'm blind yet I can see this post. 😀 😀

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    2. DropPointsNotBombs
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      +1

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      There are plenty of stick-tappers ... 😀

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    4. Billy Gilmore
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      +millions

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  3. Holy See
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    That was fun. More of the same in the 2nd half chaps.

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    1. Le Gooner
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      +1. A few more red cards are in order.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Popcorn overload!!! 😆

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  4. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hope that is not a sign of things to come. What a pussy's game this has become.

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  5. Henry Hill
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    Is Ivaonvic banned for PL games now?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      3

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    2. DropPointsNotBombs
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      yes 3

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    3. The Bandit
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      3

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      1. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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        Only 1 game ban I think

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        1. King Eric, in America
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          😯

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    4. LeBron - King of Argentina
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      For sure

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    5. Sarnab
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      3

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    6. Kostja
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      Does anyone have a link for the rules, I read some from the FA page of 2009 and it sais that Comm shield red cards dont count for the real season.

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      1. The Bandit
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        Lol

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        1. Kostja
          • 14 Years
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          why lol?

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      2. Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 19 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Agreed...that is currently my understanding. I believe it's now up to the FA to decide whether a ban will be applied.

        http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/NewsAndFeatures/2009/RedCardUpdate

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        1. The Bandit
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          Maybe they will ban him from the next three Community shields..

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        2. Kostja
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          Looks like it, I just thought as it is not the newest piece of news maybe something has changed.

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        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Oops! Is that so? Cheers, Mark ... 🙂

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        4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          BUT!!! Is this a ... friendly??? There is a real trophy! 😕

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  6. baulchy
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    any other live streams besides ITV??

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    1. DLL18
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Just download expatshield and use itv

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  7. Infinite Sheldon
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    Who assisted Torres' goal?

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    1. FORCA INTER
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      ramires

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    2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
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      I think Hazard got a touch from Ramires.

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    3. blue cheese
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      Ram

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    4. Costa in Wengerland
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      Hazard

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    5. kingluis
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      hazard

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    6. CRAZY TRAIN
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      Ramires, lovely flick for Torres. Has looked the most lively of the Chelsea mids in the first half

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    7. Manamongst
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      That would be Juan Mata; he got an excellent flick that apparently no one that has replied actually saw.

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      1. potatoace
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        thats because it didnt happen . It was Hazard no17 who flicked it.

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  8. Corrigan
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone NOT going with Torres? Or am I all alone..?

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
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      I was about to, now I'm not sure. I only want two Chelsea players so it was A.Cole and Mata. Should I change Mata to Bale and get Torres?

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    2. LMNO
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      jury still out

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
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        This.
        But probably not.

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    3. LeBron - King of Argentina
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      You're alone 😉

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    4. super zlatan
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      U still doubling up on city attack corrigan? Kun and tevez.

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    5. Podge
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      Steady knee dude

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  9. VougieDipond
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    Was this the referee from Loftus Road last season. attention seeker

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  10. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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    paulo FERRY-ira should get rb now shouldn't he?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      Whos on the bench

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    2. super zlatan
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      Nope. Luiz. Cahill will play alongside terry

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      1. super zlatan
        • 14 Years
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        * for gw1

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        1. Declan-
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          and we should have signed a rb by week 2

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    3. Specialist
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      Could be Ramires.

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  11. michu pichu
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    *comment moderated - links are not allowed on site*

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    1. baulchy
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      +1

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Face it, were not gonna tell you

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      What don't you understand about links not being allowed? Find your own, its not difficult.

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  12. Sess!
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Luiz holding his groin. If he goes off will be ferrira cahill terry cole starting next week.

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    1. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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      Luiz red card would be awesome cos Ferraira is cheap as chips

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      1. Manamongst
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        And as slow dial-up...

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    2. eratrius
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      so u think ferrira will be in the back for both games?

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    3. hillbillypete
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      and therefore not worth having che defender?

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
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        Precisely.

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  13. denial
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    lol at Chelsea fans - it was a clear red.

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
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      +300

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    2. Tomlette Greggs
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      Agreed. Looks worse everytime I see a replay. Think Savic got a bit lucky too, though.
      Oh well, he'll get sent off second-half anyway, though.

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      1. Manamongst
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        Ummm I see Kolo Toure replacing him before it comes to that. Mancini ain´t no fool mane!

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      lol at ManCity fans - you are losing.

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      1. bdwhite91
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        LOL thanks for the update- I'm terrible at math, 1 is greater than 0?

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        1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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          no prob dude

          always ready to help

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  14. takemehome
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    iv made a few changes could i get some input

    de Gea Federici

    Hangeland Kompany Cole McCartney Mariappa

    Noble Sinclair Mata Valencia Bannan

    Tevez Petric Torres

    2.0 in the bank for rooney

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    1. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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      Dude just wait til after the game.

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    2. MJ6987
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      You've just knee jerked Tevez and Torres in?

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    3. Specialist
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      Mariappa out, Gunter/Gorkss in.

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  15. Demel
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    Half time gold medal boxing match on the BBC. Fred Evans vs a boxer from Kazakstan.

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    1. DropPointsNotBombs
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Waiting for Anthony Joshua. Guys a beast

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    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      Kazak looking better

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  16. Kylos
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    The only problem was the Savic decision before the Ivo tackle IMO. It was a red.

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    1. VougieDipond
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      Savic should of been walking not Ivan

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      1. Cymro
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        Don't be stupid. It was a red.

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      2. Kylos
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        but the Ivan challenge was a red but I agree with you.

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    2. Somalion
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      Yep, should have walked too.

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      1. bdwhite91
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        If Kompany walked after his tackle on Nani in the FA cup, Ivanovic should have been executed. It's a clear red. Get real.

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  17. FC Tinker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Torres goal - DGW (c) sorted.
    Ivanovic red - DGW Chelsea def cover sorted.

    Now Lampard second yellow card to sort out the midfield...

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    1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      aguero red and Tevez bandwagon on

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  18. MJ6987
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    Is everyone jumping back on Torres now then? Doesn't seem to have done much apart from the goal. Lamps playing further forward than expected. And, so far, confirming that Aguero is the City must have attacker.

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    1. mufc802
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      Not worth 2.5 more than Tevez for me. I would go for Lampard but there is that England international that messes things up.

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      1. MJ6987
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        Baloteli not available though.

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    2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
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      Not scoring goals is what people complain about with him. Now he scored a good one--not great, but good--so he is not in a drought and his confidence got the right start to the season. Makes him look more promising.

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    3. Derailed Bandwagon
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      Had Torres since I registered and defo now keeping. Just pondering on Tevez/Aguero and Mata/Hazard now.

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  19. LMNO
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    Chelsea, despite the goal, look like a work in progress.

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
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      So imagine when it's finished.

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      1. LMNO
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        yup. should look good in the near future

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    2. Pratik
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      The site you have linked me up is superb for my purposes. Even the free one should work. Cheers 🙂

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  20. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    It was page 5 when Torres scored 10 minutes ago...

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    1. Manani
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      and there was two pages and halff of 'IVANOVIC RED!!!'

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Exactly. Every major event and the pages fly.

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  21. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    City's 3-5-2 doesnt really serve its purpose of providing City with more width if Milner is one of the wing backs. It does however give them much more comfort against Chelsea's pressing which has died off because it's become so futile.

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    1. Manamongst
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      De Jong Off or Milner off certainly to come and Johnson on, he can´t have both players he´s shopping on the field at the same time.

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  22. TheJogaBonitos
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    I know it's early doors, but do we think it'll be Hutchinson or Ferreira at RB for the PL games, very cheap options into some Chelsea DGW def cover if you can pick the right one!

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    1. MJ6987
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      Luiz I think.

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      1. TheJogaBonitos
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        bit of a risk playing your three centre backs though, but i think youre prob right

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  23. Pratik
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    @Nippin - The site you have linked me up is superb for my purposes. Even the free one should work. Cheers 🙂

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    1. Sarnab
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      which site??

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    2. LMNO
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      No probs mate. They are cheap and reliable

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      1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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        care to share? 😉

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        1. LMNO
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          a web hosting website. nothing interesting.

          http://www.5quidhost.co.uk/

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  24. andres
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    I was going to with ramires as my third cheslea player (with terry and lampard) but now I am back to the drawing board with that torres goal...

    would mean tevez out, torres in

    What is the consensus here?

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    1. super zlatan
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      I would def have Torres. I don't think Ramires is a great pick.

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      1. andres
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        he had the assist...

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    2. Title20
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      ive got ramires, torres, and cole as my chelsea cover

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  25. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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    lets get it straight ivanovic was a red card

    savic didn't dpo anything wrong to get a 2nd yellow

    also didn't the fa say over the summer they would be clamping down even more on bad tackes can injure opponents?

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    1. Somalion
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      Ivan yes.
      Savic, cut right across Torres who was running onto the ball, yellow card.
      Yep, they did.

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  26. JW10
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    as it stands Torres, Lamps, Ramires the best Chels DGW choices imo

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    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Yeah. Defensively they're starting to look less and less appealing. Still not sure about Ramires though.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Well, yes. But they were before, too ... 😉

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  27. Kylos
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is there any truth in the RVP to United rumours?

    this couldn't happen, could it?

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
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      SAF confirmed it

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    2. Declan-
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      course it could

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    3. Manamongst
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      NO.

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  28. DropPointsNotBombs
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    After that first half you'd be mad to go for Aguero over Tevez. Tevez just more dangerous

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    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      Well, that means about 80% of the people on this site are mad then.

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      1. DropPointsNotBombs
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        Definitely

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    2. Manamongst
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      Shhhush!!

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    3. bdwhite91
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      I just don't know if Tevez will match Aguero's minutes.

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  29. Djerbil
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    FFS is a great place to listen to live commentary..saves u so much download speed

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hehehe - skip gaily from page to page ... 😉

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    2. Sarnab
      • 14 Years
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      +millions

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  30. Trigg ⭐️
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    Just found out about Sid Waddell.

    Very sad day. We will never see commentary like his again!

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    1. Bow Locks
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      "Jockey Wilson . . . What an athlete."

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      1. Trigg ⭐️
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        When Alexander of Macedonia was 33, he cried salt tears because there were no more worlds to conquer …Bristow's only 27.

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        1. Bow Locks
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          "There's no one quicker than these two tungsten tossers..."

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    2. super zlatan
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      Agree. Awful news. Rip Sid. Loved his commentary.

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      1. Declan-
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        +lots

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    3. LMNO
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      He's been commenting the darts since I can remember. Very sad!

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