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12 August 2012 2794 comments
Mark Mark
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. joker7
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) Aguero and Lescott

    or

    B) Kompany and Tevez

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      C) Tevez and Lescott + cash to invest elsewhere imo

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  2. Tiki-Taka
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    lmaoooo all these RMT's changed from Aguero to Tevez

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      My advice- get Bertrand and don't get CFC or MCFC defs because they both conceded goals today

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
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        How are we gonna do that? 😉

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        1. Kanus hat trick
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          lol

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          1. Kanus hat trick
            • 14 Years
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            Plus it was a joke anyway!

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            1. The Finnisher
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              I know, I know 🙂

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        2. @ImpressiveTackl
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          😆 🙂

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    2. Babytigrrr
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Tevez must've been this ... close from MOM there! He's lost weight through training hard and looks hungry. Not sure if Aguero will earn £2.5m more points. Tevez looks good to me!

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  3. @ImpressiveTackl
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Has anybody contemplated Arsenal keeping RVP? I hadn't.

    If they do they may actually make a big leap and be possible title contenders. I like the look of them signings and if RVP actually stays, I can see them being a real force.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Me. 🙂

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Alternative!
        Gw1:
        Federici
        Koscielny, Taylor R, Hughes
        Yaya Toure, Lampard, Ramires, Noble
        Van Persie, Adebayor, Pogrebnyak
        Subs: Vorm; Dyer, Assou-Ekotto, Cuellar

        1.5 in the kitty.

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
          • 15 Years
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          Nice, the customary Adebayor pick in there I see 😉 I'm sure his ongoing (non) transfer saga is killing you.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            *gasp* (strangled voice) What do you mean? 😉

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        2. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          No Sturridge?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Nope. Chelski midfield. Graham too important.

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        3. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          No Song? Assists to RVP are his fortè.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            But I have RVP ... 🙂

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            1. Billy Gilmore
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Still it's you Doos 🙂

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                • 16 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Song will be back - GW4! 😉

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    2. HappyAnkit
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      +7

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      Yup, had him for a while

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  4. gdog2244
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Allen and aguero or Nobel and Rooney?

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    1. Naboo
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Noble and Rooney. Allen will be deep. Noble and Rooney both have pens too

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  5. yusoangry
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on Steven Gerrard?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Old, slow and way past his best.

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    2. Midtable
      • 13 Years
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      Not keen on opening fixtures

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    3. Alton E.
      • 16 Years
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      really enjoying this more attacking role… he’ll def be in my team when the fixtures get easier

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  6. southernpacific
    • 14 Years
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    Link for Arsenal game?

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    1. Red20
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      Not allowed.

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  7. SkyByBo
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Which team is better, my initial team, or CS bandwagon team??

    Initial

    Friedel federici
    Hangeland Cole Demel Williams Cuellar
    Lampard Bale Noble Ireland Larsson
    Rooney Aguero Graham

    Bandwagon team

    Friedel Feds
    Hughes Cole Demel Williamson Cuellar
    Bale Sinclair Larsson Nzogbia noble
    Rooney Tevez Torres

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    1. Naboo
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Initial but with Torres for Rooney in GW1

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  8. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
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    Torres actually looked alright today.

    There, I said it.

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    1. MJ6987
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      Not great though. Better.

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  9. Ginkapo FPL
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    Where did Russia come from? 24 Golds for them

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Dunno about that.

      India got 1 silver and 1 bronze today! 🙂 Still no gold though ...

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1. You guys really underachieve considering your population size. Obviously it ultimately boils down to a lack of funding

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    2. AIRMILES
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Came up a little short in wrestling, otherwise they could be 3rd.

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Been there all the time, blast them! 🙂

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hill Billy Pete is in my league already

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    4. Kanus hat trick
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      From the east

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  10. Naboo
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    My current squad

    Federici - Jussi
    Lescott - A Cole - Fabio - Cuellar - Clyne
    Bale - Lampard - Ben Arfa - Maloney - Noble
    Torres (Rooney GW2) - Tevez - Graham

    4m in the bank

    want to upgrade either Maloney or Noble to N'Zogbia... but which one?
    also is Clyne going to start?

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    1. Title20
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      get rid of ben arfa
      clyne will start

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      1. Naboo
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Why and who for? Kagawa maybe? An Arsenal mid? Don't really want to treble on City or double up on Spurs mids

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  11. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is the Southampton blogger around? Coxyon Saints i think?

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  12. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Allen and aguero or Nobel and Rooney???

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    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
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      Sorry fo repost

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    2. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
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      N and R

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
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        Maloney+ Aguero + 0.5

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yaya and Tevez.

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  13. DynamoTomato
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hi all,

    This is my first attempt of putting a team together for the new season. What do you think? Feel free to rip it up and start again.

    Green - Mignolet
    Hibbert - Cole - Kompany - Ferdinand - Collocini
    Young - Nasri - Allen - Dembele - Pienaar
    Tevez - Torres - Graham

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hibbert no, Youn wont play, Nasri will bench it half the season, dembele not the best 6m option

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      1. DynamoTomato
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Valencia a better option for Young?

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      2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
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        Agree with this.

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    2. Ismail
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      dembele wont get much points
      defence seems abit expensive
      young not a sure starter

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  14. Corrigan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    IF Lescott isn't guaranteed 100% gametime and the likes of Kagawa need more time, then I may soften on Yaya as there's little else in that price range except for Sessegnon. The CS means I can't see the wood from the trees.

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    1. stufail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'd stay away from Sess until Sunderland sort themselves out at the front.

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    2. 4vets
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      I don't think Kags will need more time. The way he'll get prem experience is by playing.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        you shoulde use avatar ' Boom 4vets' !!! i like it the best

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
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      lescott is nailed on.
      he is rested to preserve energy for GW1

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    4. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
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      Yeah I know the feeling. Where was Joleon today anyway?

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
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        read above

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  15. Title20
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    SZ, any others, appreciate the help

    DDG, Fed
    Cole, Lescott, Clyne, Fabio, Demel
    Ramires, Bale, Noble, Michu, Pienaar
    Torres, Tevez, Graham

    still got 2.5m to spend, where should it go?

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      ramires to mata

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    2. stufail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Keep £2m for Rooney.

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      1. Title20
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        already done

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    3. Ismail
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      upgrade michu (u already have graham)

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    4. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Good defence.

      2 big hitters. Fabio and clyne rotate.

      Midfield. Would prefer lamps to Ramires as he is on pens.
      Not sure on graham and Michu. Either change graham to petric or change Michu to tarrabt/nzog

      I assume you are bringing in Rooney gw2.

      Looks fairly solid overall

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    5. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Good defense

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  16. SGFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    RMT:

    de Gae (Cerney)
    Williams, Hangeland, Coloccini, (McCartney, Barnett)
    Allen, Kags, Bale, Toure
    Torres, Tevez, Rooney

    Will Allen get enough minutes at Liverpool, or should I go with Dyer? I'm open to other recommendations as well.

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  17. Ismail
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    which 9.0 mid should i put?
    have toure,ramires and bale,thinking of maybe walcott?
    or should i go with a utd mid (rotation problem)

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    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes walcott

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      1. CVP
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        depends on forwards

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  18. Manani
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    starting with forward line of
    Kun Torres Graham/Petric
    GW2 .5 upgrade Kun to roon
    GW3 Torres>Tevez

    good plan?
    or is that using too much transfer and too sideways?

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'd just start with Tevz and be done with it.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        that Kun explosion will be fatal though.

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  19. beric
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I missed most the game, only saw about 15 minutes, although it was the 15 minutes where City scored three times.

    So... Aguero looking a bit expensive now, Torres/Ramires/Nasri/Yaya all looking like well priced good picks.

    Agree?

    Anything else worth noting from todays game?

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      yeah, chelsea has 10 men for a lot of it so city's attack looked better than it should have

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    2. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      not nasri, he'll be benched soon

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    3. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes. Stop knee jerking.

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  20. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Who should I get for lescott if he wont play? My def is vidic, cuellar, a Williams and McCartney

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Unless he's injured, or City sign Agger, Lescott will play. Their not going to stick with calamity Savic

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 15 Years
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        they're

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    2. Kanus hat trick
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      He will. They're not going to play Savic

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  21. Strawberry Jelavic
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Are many people putting in 3 Chelsea for DGW or is it just gonna be too much of a pain in the ass to move them out of ahead of GW3??

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  22. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ugh, my team was so set. Then Tevez went HAM ðŸ™

    I'm still leaning towards Aguero, but part of me says get Tevez while he's still 9.0

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      both of them?

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Its a dilemma, that extra 2.5 is massive for the rest of the team

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    3. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Same if have jelavic Torres and pog and 1.5 in bank want to go jel>tevez and Torres> aguero

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    4. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Watch the ownerships closely then decide.

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I was considering both as well, but I'd have to switch Aguero to Rooney with the 0.5 I have left.

        I might need that transfer for something else. Especially if Tevez doesn't look to start every match.

        Just thinking out loud. Thanks guys

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  23. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    10 minutes before the beginning of he Santi Cazorla bendwagon.

    Stay tuned folks.

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      hey JOA, as a Arsenal fan, what do you think about RVP coming to United ? :). will Arsenal fan hate him?

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      1. Kanus hat trick
        • 14 Years
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        I will if he goes to Utd

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      2. The Finnisher
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        Absolutely.

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        1. CVP
          • 13 Years
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          mos def

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    2. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
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      I'd take an assist and a good display. Don't want him to do too well or everyone will get him!

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    3. Billy Ketsu
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yep.
      Bale, Kagawa, Cazorla, N'Zogbia. Oh yes....

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  24. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A Yaya + Cole

    B Bale + Hangeland

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      BBBBBB

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      1. super zlatan
        • 14 Years
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        I have all four. 🙂

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    2. Hubert
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      A

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    3. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      B

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  25. TeamSteam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Djibril Cisse + N. Dyer or Taarabt + Graham?

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Tough one, Ive got taarabt and graham but i might change now ive seen that 😀

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  26. Corrigan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Aguero v Soton looks so more appealing than a Torres double.

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    1. stufail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Why do they have to be exclusive?!

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      1. Kanus hat trick
        • 14 Years
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        Captaincy

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    2. The Finnisher
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      I'd have agreed with you before today.
      Now I am not so sure, it's not just Torres' goal, he looked sharp and like he was enjoying himself.
      Personally, I'm not logging onto FPL for a while, will go back on with a clear mind 😀

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      This is against the laws of knee-jerking.

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  27. Captain_Birdseye
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Can anyone think of a 5m rated defender other than Hangeland and WIlliams?

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
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      S. Taylor

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    2. Specialist
      • 14 Years
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      Ridgewell.

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      Saylor and Boyce.

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    4. Corrigan
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      Boyce and Ridgewell.

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  28. lickwidice
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    RMT Please.

    Federici (Jaas)
    Lescott,Cole,Hangeland (Barnett,Fonte)
    Hazard,Valencia,Noble,Bale (Maloney)
    Torrez,Tevez,Graham

    I can do valencia + tevez –> Aguero + 6.5 MF

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  29. billnats
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) Current Mids & Forwards
    Bale, Hazard, Piennar, Noble, Gunthrie
    Aguero, Rooney, Petric

    B) The Tevez Knee Jerk
    Bale, Michu, Piennar, Noble, Gunthrie
    Aguero, Rooney, Tevez

    C) The Yaya Kneejerk
    Bale, Lampard, Yaya, Noble, Gunthrie
    Aguero, Rooney, Petric

    Which combos?

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    1. lickwidice
      • 16 Years
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      I like A. Aguero + Tevez = Overkill imo

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    2. Setting the Toney
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      C

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    3. billnats
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      C should read Pog and not Petric!

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      1. Setting the Toney
        • 14 Years
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        not C then

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  30. AIRMILES
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Okay, first time this season. Thoughts appreciated:

    Chesny - Cerny
    Walker - Clichy - Hangeland - Demel - Cuellar (might switch Clichy)
    Yaya - Hazard - Kagawa - Nolan - Pienaar
    Tevez - Graham - Torres

    Hmm, and just watched some 'movies' of Kagawa's Ichinose http://static.neatorama.com/images/2007-07/eiffel-tower-day.jpg

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