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12 August 2012 2794 comments
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Title20
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    so heres my plan...

    DDG, Fed
    Cole, Lescott, Clyne, Fabio, Demel
    Ramires, Bale, Noble, Michu, Pienaar
    Torres, Tevez, Graham

    4.5 in the bank

    Michu -> yaya
    clyne -> hangeland
    save 2m for torres->rooney

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    1. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Good moves. Very similar to my team

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    2. Cuddlestone
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Looks good, I have 12/15 the same. Don't need Michu if you have Graham. Also Ramires trades down easily after the DGW to whichever 6/6.5 is performing - perhaps N'Zogbia. I'm not convinced Fulham will be tight at the back though, I went for Colo. Newcastle don't have the greatest fixtures, but they're still a very settled unit and that should continue to grind out CS's.

      Do you expect Reading to be tight at the back, or just the best of the budget bunch? I have Green there instead. Admittedly haven't checked rotations yet, see DDG staying there virtually every week.

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  2. I Am ToTo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    who made assists in the game guyz? and is hazard with it?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Kolarov

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    2. Specialist
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No, he isn't. Kolarov and Ramires got assists, dunno about the others.

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  3. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So Ramires to start the season? Marin/Oscar could get game time in his place right?

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Oscar to replace Lamps.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        thanks.. did not know that. So Ramires looks set for starts for GW 1 and 2 then?

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I'm honestly not sure right now. Oscar is attacking mid that should fit in for Lamps but may not. Ramires and Lamps could start with Oscar coming in for one of the matches or Marin. It's all a bit up in the air.

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  4. rdb
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Which is better?

    A) graham + toure

    B) tevez + 5m mid

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    1. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A by a mile

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  5. AIRMILES
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    so ended up bottom of the page
    =============================
    Okay, first time this season. Thoughts appreciated:

    Chesny – Cerny
    Walker – Clichy – Hangeland – Demel – Cuellar (might switch Clichy)
    Yaya – Hazard – Kagawa – Nolan – Pienaar
    Tevez – Graham – Torres

    Hmm, and just watched some ‘movies’ of Kagawa’s Ichinose http://static.neatorama.com/im.....er-day.jpg

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  6. Manani
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I can actually get a front line of
    Tevez Roon Torres to start with,
    and still have a decent backline of Lescott 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.0

    worth it??

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    1. Sheffield Rules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Will Lescott start?

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        yes
        you don't think savic will start ahead of him, do you?? 😆

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    2. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      This is my plan atm.

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        *pretty much

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      2. Manani
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        that front 3 is just so tasty 😀

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    3. kisskissbangbang
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Same here...

      Friedel - Fed

      A. Cole - Coloccini - Cuellar - Harte - Clyne

      Bale - Yaya - Pienaar - ... - ...

      Rooney - Torres - Tevez

      Got 10.5 to play with for last 2 midfield spots.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        my mid is a bit stronger than yours.
        bale lampard piennar Guthire Dyer

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    4. TheHazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I've got this as it stands. It's a shame because I think there's good value in some of the lower priced strikers (Graham and Cisse look good) which frees up funds for better midfielders.

      I just can't cover Utd's first four fixtures without Rooney, I think Torres picks himself because of the DGW and then Man City look good to pump Southampton next weekend, and Tevez gives the best value compared to the likes of Silva and Aguero... looks really top heavy, but it's the best fit I can find at the moment.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        i am doing Kun Torres Tevez, leaving .5 for GW2.

        but yes, it kind of killed the midfield. But forward is where you get most of the points

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  7. Billy Gilmore
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Wow, that Sterling goal was an absolute cracker!

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      That 17 year old kid?

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yep. Curled it into the top right corner from the edge of the box. Completely outpaced the full back. £4.5m too 😆

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Nice! 🙂

          Sssshhh 😉

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            He's definitely better than Downing but I don't think he'll play much in the league though. More for Europa League and Cup games 🙁

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  8. Sheffield Rules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ireland or Holman? Can't afford N'zogbia.

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ireland.

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  9. FPL_J05H
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    RMT for GW1

    Federici
    Hangelaand, Kolarov, Harte
    Bale, Ramires, Yaya, Noble
    Petric, Torres, Tevez

    subs - DDG, Michu, Clyne, McCartney

    I still have £5M in the bank but dont know what 2 do with it?

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    1. paddy2345
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      upgrade noble to kagawa

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Congratulations. Biggest knee jerk of all time!

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  10. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) A Cole + Yaya

    Or

    B) Hangeland + Bale

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      B.

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  11. HotspurFC
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone jumping on Kolarov yet?

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      tentatively. Got 0.5m in the bank at present though to revert to Lescott if I pussy out.

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Gay.

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        IT!

        GW1 😉

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  12. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Given Aguero's form at home and how good Tevez used to be away, having both could be justified for an alternating captaincy.

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  13. Kanus hat trick
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    For all those leaving money in the bank for Torres>Rooney. The best laid plans of mice and men...

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    1. stufail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Why? Do it early and it'll be fine.

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      1. Kanus hat trick
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I just don't recommend it personally as there is usually another transfer that you want/need to do without already having one planned and leaving a lot of money in the bank

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  14. blue cheese
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Best moment of the match -http://i.minus.com/ibe4NgztLvsesd.gif

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      http://i.minus.com/ibe4NgztLvsesd.gif

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        He saw Kolarov and shat himself

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          😆

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        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          😆 😀

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    2. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Haha, I hope peole still go for him.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Haha! 😆

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  15. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone actually thinking of having no Chelsea players. Or maybe just a def?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Just Torres for me

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    2. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Torres and a defender stay for me.

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    3. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You'll need balls of steel. To not quit after gw1 then.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Aguero or Tevez could easily out score Torres against Soton.

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    4. Cymro
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I will have 3

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    5. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No. Less than three would be a wasted opportunity.

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

        Wigan and Reading!!!! A DGW from heaven.

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      2. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Only if you want to keep them.

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        1. little_wizard123
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          There's an additional 2 points just for playing. Even a transfer at 4 points is worth the risk. Plus with their cost it's easy to get rid of them. NEW in GW2 isn't that difficult either.

          The GW1 fixtures are fantastic as well, as PPSR says.

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  16. Prhymeate
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    For now...

    de Gea
    Lescott / Walker / A.Cole
    Kagawa / Yaya / Bale / Park
    Tevez / Torres / Pog

    2 in the bank for Torres to Rooney. Bench: Cerny / Clyne / Demel / Britton. I don't really go for rotations, just strong XI.

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I have de Gea/Cerny atm but it's a huge risk. Fergie kept sneakily starting Lindegaard for easy home games last season

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      1. Prhymeate
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'll risk it for a bit, at worst downgrade to one of the 5.5's guaranteed to start.

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  17. Mevz
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How about Bertrand?

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He scored today, so definitely buy him.

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      1. Sean
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        😆

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        LOL

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No

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  18. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Will Walcott being starting for Arsenal?

    Will Kagawa be starting for United?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes to both.

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    2. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes
      Maybe

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    3. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes
      Yes

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      1. DropPointsNotBombs
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers fellas. Which one to pick though?

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  19. QOTSA
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Okay, decided to stick with Lampard but do I get:

    A) Cazorla/Walcott (whoever I fancy after their friendly)
    B) Kagawa

    This is baring in mind I will be getting in Kagawa after GW1 anyway for either Lampard or Walcott/Cazorla, so basically I'm asking if it's worth a punt on one of the Arsenal guys?

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    1. HotspurFC
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      If RVP stays I'll have Cazorla for sure.

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  20. flying scotsman
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ahh Aguero, why you do nothing??

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      ^ bewbs

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He's saving the goals for Southampton.

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    3. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Does it matter? You don't get points for friendlies

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  21. Scroobius Mac
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Enormous IF but IF Sterling gets a starting place at some point this season he would easily be the biggest steal in the game.

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Agree, but he would need a Downing or Suarez/Borini injury to be nailed on for a while.

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  22. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    a few chances

    thoughts on this 11

    Federici

    Kompany Vermaelen Shawcross

    Mclean Kagawa YaYa Toure Bale

    Jelavic Bent P Cisse

    subs

    rudd clyne harte Guthrie

    Bent i hope will do better under lamberts style than negative mcleish

    choice between kagawa and cazoria just feel the japanese lad may do better

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      changes i meant

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      1. super zlatan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        No Chelsea? Brave

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  23. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ferreira 4.5 mil - nailed-on for gw1

    BRING IT ON

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ivan isnt banned

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        How come?

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        1. Kostja
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/NewsAndFeatures/2009/RedCardUpdate

          He could be banned, but it is not set in stone.

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          1. Elniñorules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Ah right. Thought I heard the commentator say he's banned for the first 3 games.

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            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Yeah but since when have commentators been right?

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          2. GREENDREAMS11
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            He might end up being, over the ball, dangerous tackle, exactly the type of tackle the f.a. Tried hard to stamp out last year, Would make sense for them to make an example of him going into a new season, just my tuppence worth.

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        2. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Its a friendly so if anything he is banned from the next three Chelsea friendlies. FA might suspend him anyway, but that wont happen till Tuesday at the earliest.

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            He should be suspended though.

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Are we sure?

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    2. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Is Ivanovic actually suspended?

      Mark said this considered as a friendly or something ...

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Is he though?... would have some of that myself.

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  24. slynch16
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    is ivanovich now going to be banned for the start os the season?

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    1. Sean
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Look up one comment

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  25. Jam on a toasted bread
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    newscastle backline, anyone know?
    Santon got a chance to be starting?
    How about Simpson?

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    1. DropPointsNotBombs
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Santon will definitely start

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      1. Jam on a toasted bread
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        how is santon performing in the pre season?
        living up to his potential?

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    2. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      toon backline is santon, coloccini, saylor and either raylor or simpson. but i pray it's neither of the latter as they are both a bit crap. raylor is not that bad a footballer but he way too slow to play defence. simpson just has horrible positioning. i'm hoping against hope that we buy debuchy cos if so there will be no reason to play those twerps

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      1. Jam on a toasted bread
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        cheers thanks mate!
        thinking of placing a punt on Santon
        just not sure if he is gonna be starting

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  26. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anybody have the arsenal lineup?

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Arsenal: Mannone; Gibbs, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Coquelin, Yennaris, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cazorla; Podolski, Giroud. Subs: Szczesny, Diaby, Koscielny, van Persie, Santos, Song, Djourou, Arshavin, Jenkinson, Gervinho, Chamakh, Gnarby.

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  27. EverReady
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hey guys, I know we do not post links here, but if anyone can tell me where I can watch the Arsenal game, I would be very grateful..
    Cheers

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      If you need to get to the Fist Row in the cinema I'd just google that

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  28. Dr Funk
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Yo my funky friends. Currently have 3m in the bank and im looking to spend 1m of it. Any ideas?

    Federici - (Jaaskaleinen)
    Lescott - Hangeland - Cole - (Fabio) - (Williams)
    Pienaar - Ramirez - Toure - Sigurdsson - (Noble)
    Torrez - Tevez - Graham

    Keep it funky!

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    1. paddy2345
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      taarabt or ireland for noble

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  29. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    i will stick with Aguero over Tevez cause i can't do much with extra 2.5M and i am happy how my team is balanced

    Kolarov bandwagon-i might join

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm considering it.

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  30. mufc802
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Will be interesting to see Cazola play.

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