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12 August 2012 2794 comments
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. FPL_J05H
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    RMT for GW1

    Federici
    Hangelaand, Kolarov, Harte
    Bale, Ramires, Yaya, Noble
    Petric, Torres, Tevez

    subs – DDG, Michu, Clyne, McCartney

    I still have £5M in the bank but dont know what 2 do with it?

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    1. bobwils
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Send it to me!!!!

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  2. YingYang
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    As a United fan it just feels wrong to put Tevez in my team, even if it saves me 2.5m

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    1. Babytigrrr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hahaha! Sorry, you are kidding! I'm a bluenose and I've got a Villa player. You need to put your biases aside. This is fantasy! ツ

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      1. Costa in Wengerland
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +47

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      2. YingYang
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Point taken, I'll think about it for a day or two haha

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  3. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So who is nailed on in city, chelseas and uniteds defence?

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Komps, Lescott; Terry, Cole; Vidic, Evra

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Ivanovic too tbh

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Did you see the rangers supporters club flag in the chelsea end Pork Pie, Had to laugh. Now we know where they will be the next few years. Lol

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          1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Haha, nah I didn't! I saw some Rangers flags at Peterhead a few days back for some reason though... 😉

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    2. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Cole, Terrry(if not banned), Kompany, Vidic. Thats about it.

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    3. mufc802
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Kompany & Lescott

      Terry & Cole

      Vidic & Evra

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, Evra too.

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  4. Podge
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Disgusted with that match. Sending off ruined it although it was a certain red. I was dying to see how City coped with a decent defense once they went behind and it all means nothing now 'cos playing against 10 means you can neither judge the 11 nor the 10. All we know is that 11 City is better than 10 Chelsea which I was already well aware of. Only thing I can take from it is that Lampard still got forward a bit early on despite City having a lot of possession at the time.

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    1. Mid-Table Obscurity
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      well said

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      TORRES. BELIEVE.

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  5. Brakus
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Didnt see the match, how did mata and torres look?

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Mata: meh

      Torres: meh, but a lovely finish for his goal.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thought Torres was better than meh

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        1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          true.

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        2. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          meh+ for me. Didn't set the world alight but worked hard, as always.

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Invisible and quite good respectively.

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Anonymous
      Deeecent.

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    4. Billy Ketsu
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Mata - invisible

      Torres - very nice finish, little service from the mids, red card disrupted Chelesa's game.

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      1. Costa in Wengerland
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        true mata was almost invisble , torres was really really good even after the RED CARD , but not in the other half i guess

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  6. berthuzald
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Could Bertrand be the solution to all my money problems? 4.5 mil...tempting!

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Go on. OOP as striker too.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      As long as you're happy with no points.

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    3. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I just found out yesterday Didier Drogba costs 6 mil and is classified as a GK.

      Get on now!

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  7. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So annoyed that the Arsenal game isn't live on ESPN.. 😐

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    1. bobwils
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      streamsdirect.info channel 5

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  8. bobwils
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Cole, Terry (till possible ban), Kolarov Lescott Clichy, Vidic Evra, tht's about it for nailed on IMO

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Clichy and Kolarov play in the same position so this is a worry. Even if you mean Kompany, Clichy isn't really nailed on given he was benched today.

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    2. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Aye right! LOL

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  9. SkyByBo
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    My team was so set now i cant settle on anything.

    Do i get Torres or Lamps?

    Aguero or tevez?

    decisions decisions

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    1. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      a u get torres cos he ain't old and meh. b tevez for me . 2.5 mill freed up for god's sake. the difference tween britton and some real player

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  10. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else not convinced by Lampard after that performance?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I wouldn't read too much into that. They were comprehensively outplayed after Ivanovic got sent off. He looked better than Hazard imo.

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      1. Fernando Torres
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        him or mata?

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Mata was pretty much invisible but I'm not sure myself yet.

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          1. GREENDREAMS11
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Mata and hazard were poor. Lamps although playing deeper did get forward a bit just as ever but that changed due to Ivan being sent off.

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Me! Chelsea midfield was generally poor where as torres looked sharp, kind of fancy torres now but it seems the only way to get him is to downgrade aguero to tevez.

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    3. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      When it was 11 each he was ok, got forward a bit.

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  11. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    My thoughts on how today affects my FPL team.

    1 - I will still have 2 Chelsea players for the DGW. Circumstance mean that the 2 have changed, I am opting for A.Cole and Torres (and the standard 2M in bank) and in doing so forgetting about the Chelsea midfield. Perhaps Terry as it allows easy switch to Vidic.

    2 - I am not knee jerking on Tevez and Nasri despite fact they scored. For personal reasons they weren't in my team before the game and one game wont change my opinion (and yes I can exclude players for personal opinion towards them because it is my team). I will have to accept that whoever I have from City attacking points can come from anywhere from them.

    3 - I have no bloody clue which City defender to have for the start.

    4 - I have a 9M slot vacant in my mid, do I not use all of it and spread the wealth in my mid or get Cazorla, Valencia or Kagawa.

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Get Kagawa.

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      1. bobwils
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Never plays 90 mins

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        1. Podge
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          What a statement

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        2. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Doesn't need it.

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Kompany, Lescott, Zabaleta will start

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Actually I will probably stick to Lescott. Zaba could be good short term but I may have other things to deal with when Richards is back.

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    3. KJ-
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Kagawa for me as well mate

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    4. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      2 - if you like but it's a stupid way to play this game.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I do. It is up to me how I play the game, been told before by others who share you opinion. I will do it my way and on my head be it.

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      2. megatronaldinho
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        i totally agree with mac. fpl and ethics are not comfortable bedmates. check my history. i know of what i speak but it took me years to cop on, but now i have i try to spread wot i've learned. hunt points. they are all that matter

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    5. Costa in Wengerland
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i have 9M slot vacant aswell , i dont know why but i want NANI ( my gut feeling he'll score )

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  12. MB10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Federici
    Gunter Hangeland/Dawson Kolarov
    Ramires Kagawa Yaya Bale
    Aguero Graham Torres(+2m for Rooney gw2)

    0.5 in bank
    Should I upgrade or save?

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  13. clockwork
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is the answer
    A. Cole, Kolarov, Lampard
    B. Lescott, Dawson, Hazard

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A by a long way

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    2. Babytigrrr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      B

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  14. Shakhtar Senseless
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Are people still sticking with Aguero?

    I've had Tevez all summer, but I do think Aguero will be the top scorer this season for City

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      both.. then switch aguero to rooney GW 2(or don't)

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      1. Shakhtar Senseless
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        That's a really good shout!

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      2. Microcuts
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        For gods sake shhhhhhh!

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      stick

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    3. Pinoche
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sticking with Aguero.

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    4. ...---...
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You can make an argument that they might just steal a good chunk of each others thunder and having neither may make sense, especially Aguero at 11.5m.

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  15. Sanguinista
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Bale or Sigurdsson?? Any spurs fan here who's been following preseason? Is Sigurdsson nailed?

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    1. Shakhtar Senseless
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Bale.

      I'm a big Spurs fan.

      Sigurdsson will play most games, but will swap with VDV. We are going to buy a striker which will limit both players game time.

      Bale was changed to a number 9 recently, and will cement an advanced role.

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Bale but Siggy did score a cracker preseason

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    3. HotspurFC
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Bale. Sigurdsson wont be nailed on to start imo.

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    4. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Im going bale. Siggy and VDV will rotate imo. Bale is 100% nailed on.

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  16. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone knee jerking for Rooney or does everyone have him already?

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    1. Shakhtar Senseless
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Already in my team

      Federici (DDG)

      Cole Vidic Demel (Cuellar, Clyne)

      Bale Mata Toure Guthrie (Noble)

      Tevez Rooney Graham

      What do you think?

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I like it.

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  17. paraman
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I think both aguero and tevez are subsebtible to rotation. I would be me more pissed off if a 11.5M player is rotated compared to a 9M player

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    1. Shakhtar Senseless
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Exactly mate! Where as Rooney and Torres are nailed on.

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      1. paraman
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        That's why I have Torres, Rooney and Tevez

        After week 2 we know more and I can still get graham or bent or even suarez in for one of the 3

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    2. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      and then again Rooney could play in midfield

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      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yep and still score 2 a game.

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      2. paraman
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Then he still would score

        rooney is a certainty

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I think Balo is more likely to come on as sub for either.

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  18. Setting the Toney
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Quick Poll.

    Team A:
    De Gea Federici
    Lescott A.Cole Hangeland Demel Gorkss
    Bale Lampard Taarabt Noble 4.5 Mid
    Rooney Aguero Graham

    Team B:
    De Gea Federici
    A.Cole Hangeland Turner Demel Gorkss
    Bale Lampard Yaya Noble 4.5 Mid
    Rooney Tevez Bent

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    1. Sanguinista
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A

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    2. Shakhtar Senseless
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Team B.

      But no Turner or Bent.

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  19. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So, what's the story with Ivanovic after today. Is he gonna get a ban?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Won't know until Tuesday I don't think.

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks.

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      3 game ban.....So you gotta switch to Terry/Cole

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Not necessarily. It's considered a friendly so doesn't count unless the FA intervene and suspend him.

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      2. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Not yet.

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  20. billnats
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) Hazard & Mignolet
    B) Silva & Jaask

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A with Mata

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  21. beric
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    RMT

    --------------XXXX--XXXX
    Bertrand--XXXX--XXXX--XXXX--XXXX
    Ramires--Nasri--Yaya--XXXX--XXXX
    ----------Torres--Tevez--XXXX

    And fill in the blanks too please.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No Kolarov? 😯

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I used my City quota

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Nasri out, Kolarov in

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            This

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      the kid scored for Liv

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    3. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sterling, Lucas

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    4. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Pantilimon and Savic

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    5. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Vermaelen scored!

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    6. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      So many kisses. I feel flattered 😉

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    7. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I think this is a REALLY good team, can't see any holes in it. Well done

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      1. beric
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        My thoughts exaclty.

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    8. Cuddlestone
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      But do you have £2M for Torres to Roonpig after GW1???!?!!!

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    9. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sturridge got an assist so get him and Vermaelen just scored

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    10. KJ-
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Bertrand bandwagon ahoy!

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    11. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sterling will be a good 5th mid.

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  22. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    The question is, how much will Aguero outscore Tevez? 2.5 million's worth of points? I have my doubts. Any Aguero "explosion" will probably have Tevez assisting too...

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Russell Peters would say - Take it & go.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Think I will

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  23. mufc802
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Verminator goal from corner. 5 mins in.

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Arsenal's first choice striker scores then!

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  24. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone goin with Ramires? Thinkin i might as well find my cheapest way into their midfield than spend big on mata/Lamps when i ain't sure they gonna perform. Him and Torres Only for me maybe. Then Ramires to Pienaar GW 2

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm thinking along similar lines.

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  25. JW10
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    verm goal 1-0 arsenal

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  26. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Why are all the players in my team scoring today?

    That's Torres, Tevez, Nasri and now Vermaelen... please stop it 😐

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Verm is a beast

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You're peaking to soon!

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      boom

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  27. Mid-Table Obscurity
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    will tottenham keep clean sheets with avb? dont know if i can trust the man after the nightmare spell he had at chelsea. someone convice me that vertonghen is worth a punt to replace cole with gw2

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    1. HotspurFC
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I think they will. People are reading a little too much into this high back line hubbub imo. Friedel's a good shout unless we sign another GK. And if you're gonna take a 6.5 Tottenham defender early on, I'd have Walker.

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  28. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Verm's at it again. Stop it you tease. 😛

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  29. lord_lucan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If today was the start of FPL I would be 1 happy chappy, Verm, Torres, Tevez, Yaya all in my team from the off and scoring .... desitned for 1 pointers next week!

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  30. LaLaLand
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    are clyne/gunter/demel/barnett the most nailed on defenders for their respective teams?

    also maloney or noble?

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    1. HotspurFC
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Tierney over Barnett. Noble.

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