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26 September 2012 2467 comments
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Following on from last week’s debut, it’s time to turn focus to the latest line of injuries with Dan Agger’s leg injury, Samir Nasri’s hamstring and Stephen Ireland’s arm all taking place on my virtual treatment table. I’ll also take time to assess those already under treatment, with Bacary Sagna and Jack Wilshere closing in on a return to action…

New Arrivals

Daniel Agger
The injury to Daniel Agger occurred as the Dane and team-mate Glen Johnson both attempted to thwart the gazelle-like advances of United’s Antonio Valencia, who swiftly and elusively skips between the pair, leaving the two Liverpool players on collision course. Agger, with left leg at full stretch slides in, just as Johnson bears down with his own challenge, connecting with Agger’s knee, just below the joint line with what can be described as a “valgus force”, a specifically angled and levered pressure that, with pace and force, places great stress on the Medial Collateral Ligament (MCL).

Initially we see Agger attempt to get to his feet, where he is unable to put any weight through the affected knee. A further diagnostic clue unfolds as the camera cuts to the physio treating Agger on the ground. We witness the physio applying a valgus and varus stress test to the knee. Immediately after the test, presumably fearing Collateral Ligament damage, the physio calls for a stretcher.

As Agger is carried from the field we are able to witness the stricken player holding his leg on the inside of his thigh and the outside of his ankle, as though applying his own varus pressure, a movement that would minimise MCL stretching and, presumably, ease the pain. It was therefore no surprise to see early indications of a suspected MCL strain. Subsequent reports from Anfield suggest the injury is not as serious as anticipated and diagnose a ‘significant bone bruise with no ligament damage.’

A contusion or bruise is a term often applied to soft-tissue damage. When it is used for bone it usually describes a crush injury to the bone. The hard outer surface compacts into the softer, spongy, shock absorbing inner aspect of the bone. Some medics refer to this type of injury as a type of fracture and one would also expect some soft-tissue damage. Not knowing the depth of the contusion or the extent the injury renders time-scale predictions tricky. “Significant bone bruising” could well render the bone susceptible to fracture and Agger will be under constant review from an Orthopaedic specialist to ensure he returns with minimal risk of re-injury.

Taking Liverpool at their word I feel it would be optimistic for Agger to be in contention for either Norwich or Stoke, although if the injury turns out to be a minor bone contusion and he responds well to treatment, Stoke might well be a possibility.

Samir Nasri
In the 33rd minute of the match between Manchester City and Real Madrid, Samir Nasri, during a rare foray into Real Madrid’s penalty area, can be observed accelerating into space, only to be blindsided and unceremoniously dumped to the ground with a ‘tank’ of a shoulder charge from the Real defender. The blow was harsh and unexpected and curtailed Nasri in full flight. Less than a minute later Nasri can be seen holding the back of his thigh directly over the muscle belly of Biceps Femoris, one of the hamstring group. Thirty seconds later he falls to the ground, again clutching his hamstring in the same area. He then leaves the field with a pronounced gait.

From where Nasri was holding his leg we may infer that he incurred no tendon damage (although tests would be undertaken to confirm this) as he clutched the back of his upper thigh right in the middle of the muscle belly throughout. This is one of the more common areas for hamstrings to tear and given the voluminous blood supply to the muscle, recovery should be much shorter than if the tendons were involved. Personally I feel that Nasri suffered a mild to moderate grade 1 to 2 hamstring strain, meaning only a small cross sectional area of muscle would be involved, with major disruption to the fibres unlikely.

Every patient rehabilitates at a different speed, and transition from one phase to the next will depend upon the severity of the injury and the response to treatment. Two factors can be used to predict the length of time needed for athletes to return to full function from a hamstring strain; the amount of time it takes a player to walk without pain and any previous hamstring injuries suffered, information that I’m not privy to. However, on balance, my instinct is that we could see Nasri grace the City first team approximately three weeks from the date of injury. The Fulham match may come too soon, then, a more realistic return could be when Sunderland roll up to the Etihad on October 6.

Stephen Ireland
The Aston Villa midfielder was taken off at half time at St Mary’s with a suspected broken arm. If x-rays confirm this the length of any absence will depend upon several factors; the category of fracture suffered, if the fracture was complete or in-complete, how much of the bone shaft was affected, the shape or the line of fracture and if the fracture was displaced or in-displaced – do the bone ends still end in opposition or will some type of ‘reduction’ need to be administered. In other words, the severity and type of fracture will dictate likely return scenarios.

From discussions with a physiotherapist who has worked in professional football for a number of years, we can summarise that the extent of the damage will dictate the best line of treatment. If displaced, surgery may be advocated to approximate the bones. If notdisplaced, but x-rays still reveal a full fracture, then a period of immobilisation, usually four weeks, in a plaster cast will be required. Even post four weeks, again, depending on the severity, most clubs will see a further two weeks of healing as necessary to avoid the risk of re-fracture. If not a full fracture, we should still anticipate four weeks as a minimum absence. Again, Ireland will be under constant review by orthopaedic specialists to ensure that the player returns with minimal risk of further injury, so, my gut instinct is three weeks may still be too soon despite being possible.

Under Treatment

Bacary Sagna
On the September 21 Arsenal updated Bacary Sagna’s progress indicating that The Frenchman is one week away from full training.

Arsene Wenger, correctly, has a tradition of nurturing long term injured players back slowly and delicately and when you consider that this is the second fracture of the Fibula that Sagna has incurred in the last eight months, caution is understandable. With this in mind, when full training is resumed on the September 28, it is logical to assume that the medical staff would want to monitor full training for any reactions or latent deficits for a further 10 to 14 days before a return to competitive action would be considered. Factor in performance related fitness and match sharpness and, barring any set-backs, expect him to be physically ready to play some part when Arsenal roll up at Norwich, after the international break, on October 20.

It has to be noted that his rehabilitation, this time, will have taken close to six months, whereas his previous Fibula fracture took four months to heal. He won’t be rushed back prematurely. He is also now 29-years-old and this type of serious injury can leave psychological and physiological scars. An accumulation of injuries can potentially have significant consequences and often leaves its mark mechanically. There is also Carl Jenkinson’s almost match by match improvement to consider. The ex-Charlton starlet is the future of Arsenal, playing well in the present. He is staking a claim and has already laid sturdy foundations. Add into the mix the resolve shown by the Arsenal rearguard this season and we can see quite a conundrum building for “professor” Wenger.

Jack Wilshere
Arsenal were further buoyed with the news of the return to full training of another long-term absentee, Jack Wilshere. A stress fracture to the ankle, hampered by a string of aggravations and set-backs, caused him to miss the previous 14 months.

His physical rehabilitation is now nearing completion and the next stage is to monitor his reactions to full training, which he resumed on the September 20 and taking into consideration the length of absence and Wenger’s penchant for patience and caution with long term injury casualties, it is safe to assume that he will be monitored for reactions before any type of competitive match would be considered. Reports today suggested that Wilshere could feature in Monday’s U21 encounter with West Brom. That may well come too soon – reports also suggest that the Gunners are looking to another U21 fixture, the meeting with Reading on October 8.

You can bet that Wilshere won’t be rushed. All things considered he is still three, probably four weeks away from a first team recall and barring set-backs he should be in contention around the time that Arsenal entertain QPR at the Emirates on October 27.

* Please note, while “From the Physio” offers a unique insight into the injuries that are concerning Fantasy Football managers, such a piece must come with a hefty disclaimer. We might be offering an expert’s view of such injuries but, as with just a remote assessment to go on, the views expressed here should not be taken as gospel or with any certainty. They are, however, hopefully of great interest and arm Fantasy managers with more information to help make their own judgements.

  1. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    I advise anyone with Guthrie in their squad to play him this weekend. Ex player always score against us. ALWAYS!!

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      🙂 good to hear

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    2. Naboo
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ahead of Nolan? He's my first sub atm

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  2. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Decided my transfers 😎 .. seems so obvious now really(0.4 miss in value later)
    Mignolet
    Rafael Demel Gorkks
    Bale Cazorla KAGAWA NOBLE
    Rvp Tevez Ba
    Federici Dyer Hangeland Clyne
    0.7 in bank.. 1 FT
    Decided to do Kags and Noble to Fellaini and Pienaa fir a hit. Cant see either of kags or noble contributing much to my team over the short or medium term. Leaves me with Dyer as my cheap sub(hot him @ 5.5) who can come on when tevez does'nt start next 2 weeks 🙂 .. let's me save a transfer over GW 7 if all goes well.. I have no confidence whatsoever in Noble for points, and for 0.5 more keepin Dyer seems a no brainer

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    1. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Not sure I would take a hit UNLESS you plan to captain one of them.

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    2. Mikinoz
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Tevez and Dyer could both put in only cameo performances this week. I kind of agree re Noble, but pretty much as guaranteed of 90 mins as is possible.

      I fundamentally disagree re Kagawa, but that doesn't make it a bad transfer.

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  3. Naboo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    RVP vs Fletcher for C this GW. Cast your vote below...

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I paid the premium for RVP so i could captain him during home games(and some away).. both have a similar ceiling this week(with Fletcher prob edgin it) but RVP has a better chance of gettin more than 2 points.. So RVP

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      1. Naboo
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I know the sensible option is to C rob but i'm 30 points out in front in my mini-league and fancy a riskier option that might pay off big haha. Might really regret it, I can see either a blank or a hat-trick

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          my Ba(c) risk paid of brilliant last week.. i enjoy takin riskier options.. gives an added dose of fun for the weekend. This week i could captain Ba again or Fellaini/Pienaar. RVP does seem a brilliant option this week though

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  4. Arselona
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Potentially looking at 4 out of 5 in my backline priced 4.1 or less... This has to be wrong but so tempting..

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    1. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Not a big fan of clean sheet points then?

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Nelson will be out of the team soon enough (or at least rotated) now that Mbia is fit
        Clyne won't keep any clean sheets as the southampton defence is shocking
        You might scrape the odd clean sheet from a reading defender

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        1. Arselona
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Lets hope I snap out of it soon... 😕

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        2. DownUnder
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Try and get two players from the big teams that are likely to keep clean sheets, two that are cheap but get playing time and one of the cheapest price to bench forever (thats if you are playing three defenders benching two). This is mine:

          Raf (5.7m), Mert (5.1m), Riise (5.5m) Benching: Gorkss (3.9m - plays 90mins but cheap), Tierney (3.9m - never plays)

          You want to have a sub that's cheap but plays and a reserve thats just as cheap as it gets.

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          1. tw
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            i'd downgrade riise to hughes if i were you. and mert > gibbs

            shame you don't have baines though

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            1. DownUnder
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              I do have the money ($6.5m) but I don't want to take the hit. It doesn't seem worth it.

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              1. Biggerlips
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 2 months ago

                You left Rafael's 11 point haul on your bench last week, but played Gorkss away to WBA? 🙄

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  5. Kenny Dogleash
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Is there anything to be said for holding on to Danny Graham? So much pre-season promise, but has so far failed to deliver.

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    1. Naboo
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      scored in the cup right? personally i would keep for the two home games then ship

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      1. Messi & fabregas
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        u risk losing at least 0.2 in your purchase power though

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  6. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Righto trying to figure out my next move.. squad currently

    Jaask (Fed)
    Baines, Ivanovich, Cuellar (Hangeland, Clyne)
    Hazard, Michu, Larsson, Sterling (Noble)
    Tevez, Rvp, Berbatov

    Free transfer used & £2.5m banked.
    Next week doing: Larsson & Tevez/Cuellar -> Bale & Lambert/cheapo (-4)

    Question is..
    A. Take the hit this week Tevez -> Lambert (-4)
    B. Need a new long term g/k as Jaask will have bad fixtures coming up so Federici -> Begovic (-4)
    C. Leave it

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    1. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Lambert away at everton is unlikely to do much

      Wouldn't take a hit for a keeper, especially as Jaask has half decent fixtures for the next 4.

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    2. Mikinoz
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      IF you are insistent on getting Tevez out, then may as well do it this week as he is unlikely to play. hit for a GK just seems so wrong, and if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

      Really not sure I would do it for a hit, Tevez can score well in cameo's, but I think he has to go soon if Aguero stays fit

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      1. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Not 100% insistent on removing Tevez I started the season with him thinking Dzeko wouldn't be a factor at all but it's dodgy now that Mancini is dividing pitch time between 4. Losing £.5m on his value is probably what's holding me back this week until I get a better picture of the City situation. ....but I do need to find £.5m to afford Larsson to Bale upgrade next week. Which means either downgrading a defender or Tevez.

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        1. Mikinoz
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I'm in similar boat with Tevez, got him second week after Aguero injury. Unless Aguero gets injured again, I don't see there being much clarity in how much EPL gametime Tevez is likely to get. I personally think Aguero is first choice, most nailed on, but nailed is a pretty useless phrase for City attack.

          I'm fairly certain Tevez will go soon, could even be this week, I have 2 FT but I have other issues too. He could easily come on for last 10 and bag a brace, the annoying little fecker that he is.

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          1. Scratch
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            It's impossible to call really. Mancini started the season with Aguero & Tevez. Tevez is probably in the best form of any City forward... and yet he decided to start Dzeko in the Arsenal match - though as some consolation Dzeko had a mare and was subbed out for Tevez.

            With City dropping points and a bit off form, Fulham away is another potential banana skin so I wonder will he stick with Aguero & Dzeko starting considering it didnt really work out well last weekend. Who knows! this is why i loathe having City forwards.

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        2. Just A Hat
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          You can get that .5 loss back pretty quickly depending on who you trade him with! I went with Berbatov and already got .2 back, hopefully another .1 by the weekend!

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          1. Scratch
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            I know yeah but I meant i'd only be "losing" £.5m if I wanted to buy him back if he was starting and scoring goals, so the bigger implication would be missing out on those points.

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            1. Just A Hat
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              ahh! 😀

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  7. andres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Is there any chance that doing guthrie & tevez out for fletcher/berba & pienaar in for -8, can play out well?

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    1. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Depends who gets benched instead of Guthrie.

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      1. andres
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Graham

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      2. andres
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        It is basically play one of graham / guthrie & tevez or do the hit

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        1. Scratch
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Tough call.

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    2. Mikinoz
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      yes there's a chance, but you need to give both new guys a fair go to rake back -8, in which case propensity for injury to Fletcher would force me to Berba (actually I would be going Berba anyway cos he's better).

      The two upcoming fixtures could make you regret benching Graham.

      On balance I wouldn't do it, play Guthrie this week, China Mag says he is certain to score.

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      1. andres
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Graham would be playing both home gw, it is just this one that he is benched.

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    3. RedForLife
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Don't think it's worth the double hit. Def stick for me.

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    4. Just A Hat
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I did it this week for a -4 hit

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  8. chocolove
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    tevez -> jelavic, suarez, ba?

    so far just 1 eve cover at pienaar, no liv, no new

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    1. RedForLife
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      tough call...
      I would go Suarez or Jelly. Both have good fixtures for at least 3 weeks. Ba has form though.

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    2. Mikinoz
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ba. Form over fixtures every time, and United apart Ba's fixtures for next 6 aren't all bad. Jelly close, Suarez playing well though he is, he still hasn't proven he can it a barn door at 5 paces

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    3. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      ba or jelly.

      ba edges it because you should get in baines!

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  9. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Howard davis
    mcualy rafael demel cuellar davies
    michu hazard pienaar morrison cazorla
    lambert rvp tevez
    Have 0.1m and 2FT so not sure what to do. Here are my options:

    A: howard + cuellar + morrison >>> begovic + baines + guthrie (doing this just to get baines in)
    B: davies + tevez >> begovic + suarez (doing this coz davies didnt start for saints so shipping him out and the same case with tevez)
    C: howard + cuellar + tevez >>> mignolet + baines + berbatov (can bring in baines this way)
    D: tevez + mcualy + howard >> defoe/berba + baines + foster

    what else can i do? my main concern is to bring in baines but i already have howard and hesitant to double on everton defence....

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  10. Arselona
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Thinking about Michu > Dyer/Routledge during wks to come.. Which is more sensible? Dyer or Routledge?

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    1. Mikinoz
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Is it really sensible to take out the nailed on guy for one of the rotation risks?

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, I wouldn't.

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        1. Arselona
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I wouldnt but just trying to free up some cash,,.

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    2. RedForLife
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      not sure there is 1. Both r rotation threats.

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  11. jimski
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Does this seem reasonable or crazy?

    This week (gw6): Tevez -> Berb (-4)
    gw7: save
    gw8: Cech/Lambert -> Begovic/Aguero

    Currently that's exact money, so if things change I might do an extra Hazard -> Cazorla (-4) to fund it.

    Very much early days on this plan, but considering options. Thoughts?

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    1. DownUnder
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      GW6 Plan: Ticks the box for me
      GW8 Plan: I'd be looking to keep Cech for the clean sheets and I personally dislike having any City players not because I don't think they're any good but because every single person in the City squad, aside from Hart, faces rotation. Even Aguero.

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I'd still have Cashley for Chelsea defensive cover. I'm not sure on Aguero yet, especially as Lambert has nice fixtures too. I could just upgrade a m/f to Bale/Cazorla instead.

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        1. DownUnder
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Sounds like a plan.

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          1. jimski
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Thanks.

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  12. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    hey everyone! how are you all doing?

    China Mag: did you activate your wc yet?

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    1. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Alreet TW. As good as. I got in lambert to avoid the rise, so if I don't WC, i'll be stuck on an 8pt hit, with still a pretty crappy team for the weekend! How about you?

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Re-post from the previous page.

        My WC team is edging closer to completion. How is it looking today?

        Foster, Begovic
        Baines, Gibbs, Saylor/Wilson/Bardsley (or Cuellar)
        Bale, Cazorla, Barfa, Pienaar, Fellaini
        Suarez, Berba, Lambert

        - Suarez gets 3 games to prove himself (nor, STK, RDG), then is out for Ba (or Dave) for toon’s sweet fixtures
        - The plan was to rotate Berba and Lambert, but after putting these players into my spreadsheet, Lambert will play most games, with one of barfa, pienaar, berba sitting out when they have crap away fixtures.
        - I have 0.5m to play with. Any worthy upgrades?
        - Yes I know there are no manchester forwards!!

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        1. China Mag
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I will probably stick with Cuellar, rather than Bardsley, as that way I will be able to upgrade Gibbs to Big Verm in a couple of weeks, if I so fancy.

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          1. tw
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            not yet. couldn't make up my bloody mind so missed out on lambert and cazorla rises :(. i did do fabio to demel so i wouldn't lose money on fabio, and if i dont wc i'll want demel. if i do wc i'll just get rid of him no problem. im thinking i might as well pull the trigger though as i've pretty much convinced myself of it now. would be nice to see someone besides the delusional player convinced marveaux will play to agree with me though! ;).

            your team looks set. confused who your 4th and 5th defenders are though.... i still believe ba over suarez. and im undecided afro vs yaya/silva. tempted to get yaya or silva to give some city coverage. or get kags/nani for united coverage. thoughts on this?

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            1. DownUnder
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Hey you guys seem to be long term members of this site, do you guys know how to make it so that when you click on your name as in Downunder for me, it links to my fantasy page?

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              1. tw
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 2 months ago

                check under FAQ it should explain it.

                its been a while since i did it but if i remember correctly if you go to settings then there's a box for website and whatever url you put there is the link in your name

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                1. DownUnder
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 2 months ago

                  Cheers mate

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            2. China Mag
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Wilson = Stoke left back
              Bardsley = Sunderland right back. Coming back from injury. But good attacking returns over the past couple of seasons.
              NEW/SUN/STK gives nice rotation, and strong back up

              I have to admit, it will be great to go into a game without Marveaux weighing around my neck. I got that one totally and utterly wrong. Apparently he was rubbish last night as well.

              By getting suarez for 3 (nice) weeks, it allows me to decide between Ba and Cisse.

              Yaya is a great option, if you can afford him

              Wouldn't go for any man utd attacking coverage. Rubbish fixtures, and they will be rotated.

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              1. tw
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 2 months ago

                okay got it. you think bardsley over cueller though?

                would you rotate fulham (hughes) or newcastle (saylor) with sunderland?

                haha :D. i just hope your strategy that you've convinced me of doesn't go tits up like the marveaux punt!

                i gotcha. i'll go ba and worst case upgrade to cisse

                yaya over silva? can afford either i believe

                good poiont. thanks

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                1. China Mag
                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 2 months ago

                  To be honest TW, I have no idea if this strategy will work or not. I have never attempted it before, and 99.9% of posters on here will advise against it.

                  Unlike the marveuax punt, which was relatively risk free, if you go for this, and it doesn't work, it will completely ruin your season. We could be miles behind the leaders by the time we get to sort it out with the january WC.

                  You decide!

                  I would go for bardsley over cuellar if both were the same price. But I could use the extra 0.3m, so I will probably stick with cuellar

                  Yaya should be nailed on. I thought about silva, but then I decided there is no point going without manchester strikers, to avoid rotation, if i',m just going to get a midfielder who will be rotated instead!!

                  Neither rotate very well i'm afraid. I'm going for a 3 way rotation to fill in the bad fixtures

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                  1. tw
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 2 months ago

                    yeah well we will have to wait and see. either we will shoot up the ranks or fall down them.

                    but honestly it wouldn't be too hard to fix. bale/cazorla to guthrie and you should be able to get rvp, rooney, aguero or tevez back in

                    yeah good point with silva. so that leaves it down to yaya vs afro. or a punt on walters. i remember when he was fantasy gold for a while last season. thoughts?

                    know anyone else that rotates well with cueller? and see the thing is i'll probably play rafa most weeks anyways so its not too crucial

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  13. tom66
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    On behalf of a friend - what are the chances of A Johnson starting this weekend ....

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      love it.. on behalf of a friend I am a raging alcoholic....

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  14. Moontaka
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Everyone taking out Tevez for hits...

    I'm going to enjoy his points this weekend.

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I'm going to enjoy watching him on the bench whilst bucktooth scores a brace....

      *wakes up and realises it was a dream 😀

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    2. RedForLife
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I still have Tevez, however I unfortunately would have done the same if I wasn't already doing a hit. It looks likely he'll come on for 1 pointer this GW.

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    3. Mikinoz
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I reckon you might be enjoying them about as much as we enjoyed Grahams points haul last wekend, except Tevez is unlikely to get 60 mins.

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    4. DownUnder
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Well that depends on what you think will happen. Let's put it this way:

      The worst case scenario is if Tevez comes on as a sub in the game and gets 1 point (that way he won't be auto subbed for a 2 point 90min player). If one took a 4 pt hit to get rid of him, they are betting that the forward they are swapping for will get 6 points or more ( 6 - 4 =2). So it is completely up to what you think will happen.

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Except that the hit doesn't have to pay off in 1 gw.

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        1. DownUnder
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          True, but eventually it will hit back :S

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  15. CRAZY TRAIN
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Morning all. Ridgewell owners worried? Has the moment arrived to get Popov?

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    1. 4321
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Im worried. And just got him last GW. Damn luck

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      1. CRAZY TRAIN
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Bummer !

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  16. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    This is a horrible one since Cuellar is out... play Hangeland (MC) or Clyne (eve)

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I am playing Cuellar... you never know.. first sub will be clyne, then Hange

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Me too.

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      2. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Don't let that orange flag on FPL fol you!

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        1. Scratch
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Fool, even.

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            I'm not fooled... just hopeful...

            A hopeful fool you could say 😀

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      3. SuperGrover
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I don't see how you guys are playing Clyne. You have to be praying for a goal eh? SOUT is frisky on attack but their defense couldn't stop a good American college squad.

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    2. RedForLife
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I have the same dilemma should I not WC. Was thinking possibly Hang at home with some goa threat from set piece's?

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      1. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Ya I'm leaning towards Hangeland too. Soton's defence has been nothing short of shocking so far but there's not a hope City won't score at least 1 goal.

        I think they're both nailed on for 1 point 😐

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        1. RedForLife
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I agree, pushing me further to the WC... have u WC yet Scratch?

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          1. Scratch
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Saving it for the new year 😉

            I wouldn't let a few fringe defenders influence playing a WC.

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            1. RedForLife
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Cheers.

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  17. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    A)Fellaini + Pienaar in for Kags and Noble (-4)
    or
    B) Pienaar + Baines in for Kags and Hangeland (-4)
    or
    C) Fellaini/Pienaar in for Kags (no hit)
    Team linked. Thanks

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    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      can you do B but lose clyne instead of hangeland?

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  18. 4321
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Just to be sure. Is Dyer available to play this weekend because the Capital One Cup counted as his suspension?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      yes. Also, Hernandez is injured and Routledge played 180 mins in 3 days.. so Dyer should start for one of them atleast.. Consensus on here is that he will start the next 3.

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      1. 4321
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Awesome. Thanks

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  19. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    so everyone says you need to have good captain options. who do you guys see as good captain options week in and week out besides rvp and aguero/tevez?

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I have three candidates and they're all good captain options for just about almost everyone who owns one of these - RVP, Fletcher and Pienaar. Still trying to decide who to give the armband to.

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        week in and week out you think fletch and pienaar are good captain options?

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        1. Grounderz
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I personally believe Fletcher is one. Pienaar has that thing about making assists so might worth it. But then, personally and I'm pretty sure that's how the majority feels, I captain whoever has the most favourable fixtures or looks the likeliest to score the most points.

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          1. tw
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            so if you didn't have an obvious captain choice you'd go fletch? even if he had a tricky fixture?

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            1. Grounderz
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              If I didn't have an obvious captain choice, I would go for whoever looks the likeliest to score. If Fletcher has a tricky fixture just as RVP and Pienaar has, I'd look at other factors like what's the probable lineup for the fixtures, etc before deciding. I'm saying Fletcher is a candidate to choose from. So suppose all factors considered and Fletcher seems the best option, yes, I would captain him then in this case.

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    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      If I had him, Fletcher.

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        every week?

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        1. Scratch
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Oh right nevermind 🙂

          Yeah just RVP, Aguero and Bale I think.

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    3. Mikinoz
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      The most expensive player in your team. Anyone with great form. Anyone with good form and good fixtures. I'm sure that's not as specific as you were hoping, but I can't make it any more specific

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        well i was just wondering as people have said that my draft wc team with no manchester strikers has one flaw which is it doesn't have strong captain options so i'm wondering who people see as strong captain options IN GENERAL besides them just outta curiousity

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      2. Grounderz
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        From a financial perspective, I think captaining your most expensive player seems to justify your decision for chucking out a large sum on him. But then captaining your most expensive player, regardless of fixtures or form, wouldn't label as the best priority or suggestions. 😆

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    4. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I like my captains to have easy home fixtures. Only exception to this rule is Van Persie if my other decent players do not have an easy home game.

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  20. Kenny Dogleash
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    It's seems I'm destined for a 4pt hit this week, I just can't help myself.

    Latest combo is Kags & Graham out, Sterling and Podolski in...1.4m extra in the bank.
    Thoughts fellas?

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You fancy Podolski to do well against CHE? Who are your other strikers?

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      1. Kenny Dogleash
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Tevez and Jellyfish. I don't fancy Chelsea's defence, and Podolski has spot kicks in the locker.

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        1. Grounderz
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Hmm... but CHE have all clean sheets except that RDG game, and wouldn't that fancy you even a little of it? 😆

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          1. Kenny Dogleash
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            You are absolutely right Grounderz, but I still fancy Arsenal to put a couple past them tomorrow.

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            1. Grounderz
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Oh, that game. Yes, absolutely. 😀

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    2. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      do you already have everton and newcastle attacking coverage? i'd be tempted by one or two of ba, hba, pienaar, afro, and jelly if i were you

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      1. Kenny Dogleash
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Have Jelly. I generally try to avoid bandwagons if possible (though I did get on Michu after GW1). Ba reeks of a BW to me...and one which will end in tears. Cisse is the better striker, and will ultimately come good, at which point Ba will become the 'black sheep' of the toon attack, so to speak.

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  21. DonTanTilla
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Playing my wildcard, can i put lescott in for ivanovic?? Form or fixtures, that is the question.

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    1. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      No way. The only player worth replacing Ivan with is Baines imo

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    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You can, but I don't think many would advise it. Lescott's having a shocking season.

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    3. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      don't have either of them. get defenders in this order: BAINES, gibbs, rafa

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    4. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      😆 Ivanovic all day, unless MCI shows some clean sheets and another two goals from Lescott. 😆

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  22. CRAZY TRAIN
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Is it time to bring in the Silva surfer? On a WC and tempted to swap Yaya>Silva while he is sitting at 9.4

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I don't think it's time yet.

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    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      The time to bring in silva is when he is playing regularly... As you know last year there weren't too many massive weeks for him. he is a consistent player

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    3. Moontaka
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yep bring him in. Silva surfer, I like that.

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  23. Latko Zahovic
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Hi. Can I have some comments for my current WC team? 🙂

    Howard-Foster
    Ivanovic-Baines-Nelsen-Jenkinson-Santon
    Hazard-Fellaini-Sterling-Kacaniklic-Ben Arfa
    Tevez-RvP-Berbatov

    Which of the following changes would you prefer or is the tem above ready to go?

    A) Tevez -> Suarez
    B) Tevez -> Fletcher and Ben Arfa -> Silva
    C) Tevez -> Ba and Santon -> Rafael

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    1. DownUnder
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      C with slight modifications.
      I'm guessing you'll be playing a 3-4-3 formation like most people do. If thats the case then you have 2 defenders as subs. Why are you spending so much on your last choice sub that you probably won't end up playing?

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    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      If it was me... C with Fletcher or Lambert instead of Ba.

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    3. SuperGrover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Drop Ivanovic for a cheaper option (Gibbs, for example) and spend it on your Midfield. Sterling and Kac on the same team is a recipe for disaster.

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  24. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    After last night's abomination I'm tempted to play Demel this week. I think West Ham are going to turn us over at The Loft on Monday night.

    Now getting very concerned.

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    1. DownUnder
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Well I'm hoping not my bet's on that it will end up as a 0-0 draw. I've chosen to play Cesar as an alternative to Harper.

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    2. Just A Hat
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      lol you are always doom and gloom when it comes to QPR!

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  25. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Talking about captain options, one of the things that spooked me into going without Manchester forwards was RVP's 1pt cameo at the end of the Wigan game. What was that all about?????

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    1. DownUnder
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Well he got rested cos of international duty. He's worth quite a load, the budget option would be to get Rooney once he's back I guess.

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    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Thigh injury picked up playing for Holland and the fact that they were only playing Wigan. RVP will likely get rested in the very easy United matches.

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    3. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Now that Rooney has returned, that puts RVP in doubt with all that rotation. I've always thought about shipping out RVP. (1) Those extra cash could have put on midfield and defence upgrades. (2) There are many other good forward options in the market with cheaper price tag.

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  26. bigfoot
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    So i traded:

    Tevez to Berbatov

    and

    Michu to Cazorla,

    What i'm hoping with berba is for him to get to 7.8 and trade him out to adebayor,

    the theory behind michu is that he has scores of 7,1,1 in his last 3 while cazorla has had scores of 13,5,7 and playes Chelsea, West Ham, Norwich and QPR in his next 4.

    Should i have traded?

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      could work out well for you....

      not sure about the ade move... Defoe is flavour of the month with AVB.. quite rightly

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  27. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    ok all the cup games are out of the way...

    No real changes in my plan...

    Tevez to Suarez Friday night it is.... he has two weeks to perform or he is out over the international break... I will not hang onto him like last year...

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      What if he performs and scores? Still hanging onto him... like last year? 😆

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        if he performs of course he can stay.... I don't know why I am doing this as I know it's wrong but I have a serious issue with Suarez... it's like the racist bucktooth has a magnet attached and I am a foolish piece of metal... unattaching myself is the problem...

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  28. thetinkerman
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    A bit strange to log on this morning to find another 'Tinkerman' with a picture of Ranieri asking for advice!

    If you're reading this, you might want to consider changing your name 🙂

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      bad form I agree

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      1. thetinkerman
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Probably just a coincidence. Different picture and no team link.

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    2. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      😯 I thought that was you...

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      1. thetinkerman
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I was a bit confused at first!

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    3. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      You want to watch out. There was a guy on here a few months back, using my name and gravtor. He was trying to trick people into giving out their email address, among other things

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      1. thetinkerman
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Wow, that sucks!

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  29. DownUnder
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone want to have a stab at a score prediction?

    Arsenal 2 - 0 Chelsea
    Everton 3 - 1 Southampton
    Fulham 1 - 3 City
    Norwich 0 - 3 Liverpool
    Reading 1 - 2 Newcastle
    Stoke 2 - 2 Swansea
    Sunderland 0 - 0 Wigan
    Utd 3 - 1 Tottenham
    Villa 1 - 1 WBA
    QPR 0 - 0 West Ham

    What's your two cents?

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenal 1-1 Chelsea
      Everton 4 – 1 Southampton
      Fulham 2 – 2 City
      Norwich 0 – 2 Liverpool
      Reading 1 – 2 Newcastle
      Stoke 2 – 1 Swansea
      Sunderland 2 – 0 Wigan
      Utd 3 – 1 Tottenham
      Villa 1 – 3 WBA
      QPR 0 – 0 West Ham

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    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenal 1-1 Chelsea
      Everton 3-2 Southampton
      Fulham 1-2 City
      Norwich 0-2 Liverpool
      Reading 0-3 Newcastle
      Stoke 0-0 Swansea
      Sunderland 2-0 Wigan
      Utd 3-0 Tottenham
      Villa 2-1 WBA
      QPR 1-1 West Ham

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  30. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    two wc questions:

    1) who would you rather rotate with cueller (yes ik he could be out injured), hughes or saylor?
    2) 1 more mf spot open. have pienaar and baines from eve, no mun or mci coverage. who would you get? can afford anyone 9.6 (silva's price) or less? anyone fancy walters for a differential?

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Just go with Baines + Gibbs + 3 rotating cheapies for your defence.

      What ur current midfield?

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        And i really like Hoilett in midfield.

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      2. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        currently on baines + gibbs + rafa + cueller + saylor/hughes
        and mf is cazorla, bale, hba, pienaar, afro/yaya/walters/someone else

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Very expensive defence. Surely you can save some money. If Rafa is in there, the other 2 should not cost more than 4M. I am probably going to have Baines Rafa Gibbs Gorkss Clyne. One move away from it. Saylor>Gibbs/Sagna.

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          1. tw
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            i don't mind. still have .8 in the bank if i go yaya + saylor

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            1. Lateriser 12
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Money will be useful later. But if youre confident, sure! 🙂

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        2. China Mag
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          In that case, go saylor. The rafael/saylor/cuellar rotation is pretty sweet!!

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          1. tw
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            it is? i'm on it! 😀

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            1. China Mag
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              That's what I had, but then I had to find an extra for quid for Foster rather than Jaask.

              Would you go Jaask + Rafael

              or

              Foster + Stk defender?

              If I went for the first one, I would have no west brom defence coverage

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              1. tw
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 2 months ago

                probably the first one tbh. west ham should be tight at the back and it'll be nice to have mun defense, especially with rafa's attacking potential

                ubt ohh that could be problematic... this is a toughie

                how do i have so much more money than you when we have pretty similar teams?

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    2. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Check my answers above.

      Walters could be a differential, if he keeps his place (anyone?), stoke have great fixtures coming up. But remember, he only scores at home.

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        So actually no, he's not a good option. Unless he fits into a rotation plan

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        1. tw
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I did.

          that's why i was asking. ohh good point. hmmm maybe i'll avoid then unless he rotates H/A with berb.....

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          1. China Mag
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            I've moved past the idea of rotating two players. When I put my team into my spreadsheet, to plan my selection up until GW20, almost all weeks have 3 players with poor away fixtures.

            I am now looking at it as Baines, Bale and Santi to play every game, with the other 12 players rotating.

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            1. tw
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              spreadsheet?

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    3. thetinkerman
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I wouldn't say owning a player from either Manchester clubs is essential.

      RVP Aguero, Yaya and maybe Rafael are the only 3 I'd consider at the moment

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      1. thetinkerman
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Counting fail.

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          😆

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          1. thetinkerman
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Green tea still brewing. Toast popped up. Should be back to at least 70% function within minutes 😉

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        2. tw
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          :D.

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    4. DownUnder
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      1. Hughes
      2. Cazorla?

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        already have caz.

        team so far:

        foster, bego
        baines, gibbs, rafa, cueller, ?
        cazorla, bale, hba, pienaar, ?
        ba, berb. lambert

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        1. DownUnder
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          In that case Sterling 🙂

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