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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. OPTA FPL
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    'First' green arrow plz

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      If you have this guy: http://gifsoup.com/webroot/ani.....6965_o.gif 😉

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        No image available 😐

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        i dont 😎

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      2. Breadbin
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        Loved the game apart from the result. Felt for Arsenal that year, they deserved more.

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        1. dogtanion
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          yup..Hleb, Cesc and Rosicky pulling strings..RvP was only bench fodder..pity that team didn't stay together. Even Eboue was class.

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    2. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Really clever play on words there. Didn't get it at first but then a few of us had a good look and we can see how you did it. The 'First' green arrow comment disguised your reference to being the 'first' to comment. Brilliant wordplay. My missis is still laughing. Really ingenious. Good stuff.

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        Glad you understand it 😀

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      2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        😆

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  2. @FuzzyWarbles
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    for gods sakes i need a good week!!!

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      Ouch

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      1. super zlatan
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        I would love a 70+ week

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    2. Smarty Pants
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      Same here.
      5 red arrows in a row too 🙁

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    3. MCH
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Considering the number of red arrows amazing how little you have gone down! Time for a change for sure gl!

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  3. 4-4-who?
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    I have 7 scout pick players - 'gulp' - is this the week that my season comes to life? Not one decent GW since GW1...

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    1. Snevitz
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I had 10 a few weeks ago and got 3 points higher than the average.....good luck though!

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      Fortunately I only have four.

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    3. MCH
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      As long as you have the front 3 and Bale you should be fine!

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  4. Parm
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    ALL IN THE DUGOUT.

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  5. Nomar
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Benitez has promised to fix Chelsea's tired squad. Says RDM did not rotate the players enough so he will obviously be rotating them.

    Looks like getting rid of Mata for Silva may end up being a wise move then.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      it is, good chance mata rested v sunderland next week then blank

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      1. Nomar
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Sold him last night for Silva. I don't trust Chelsea players with Benitez there. I worry they are going to pull the same s*it they pulled on AVB to get him sacked.

        Benitez will rotate them anyway.

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    2. Godfather Bandit 42
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      Defo - I'm gonna side-kick him and get Bale....

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      1. Hubert
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        +1

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  6. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    afternoon lads

    so Mata starts, not bothered I sold him, it's quite clear no-one is safe from Rafatation.

    On another note, picking a team for next GW has been rather easy, baring an injury I can very easily save the transfer

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      • 13 Years
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      Good luck JK. I see DDG has got you two greens 😀

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        he has, but the return of DDG on here seems to have coincided with the return of Lindy to the United goal

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        I am also up against 2 rivals ho both have the RvP, Tevez, Suarez axis, one with RvP (c) one with Suarez (c)

        I have RvP (c), Berba and Long

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    2. Nomar
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      • 16 Years
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      You know what, I am leaning towards that too. Only have Cuellar and Gorkss and I'm not sure I really want anyone else.

      It's a DGW with one team that can't defend and one team that can't score. Doesn't look like there is going to be a great deal to shout about there to me.

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    3. 4-4-who?
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      You might be after today's game!

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    4. Bun Rab
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Right decision. Chelsea rotating and barely attacking, plus missed GW and City have good upcoming fixtures.

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    5. AK ⭐
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      All the best JK. Mata's stays for this week, getting him rid for GW16 for Fellaini, already have 2 FTs. 😀

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  7. super zlatan
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    In my work mini league all my close rivals went with rvp (c).
    I went with Suarez (c). Gulp!

    Suddenly I feel nervous.

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I went with Suarez too, but as I'm 100 points behind I need differentials now

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    2. faulksp
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      Worry not good choice and not the end of the world if you have RVP ......whereas if Suarez does well and they don't have Him you will make ground

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      1. super zlatan
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        Good point faulksp. Lets hope the beaver does his magic

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    3. Ravanelli
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      I'm one of two people in my mini league of 18 teams who actually have Suarez.

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    4. MCH
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      In the same boat last time they decided to not (c) RVP was when Tevez got them 38 points so I am hoping for some Karma this week!!

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  8. Nopli
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    'Blue is the Color'

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      O u

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    2. DLL18
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      *colour

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      1. Daniel_tsl
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Color is correct in American English

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        1. DLL18
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          13 years, 1 month ago

          I know, joke.

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    3. Daniel_tsl
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yea i know Everton are good enough to beat the champions 😉

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    4. Bun Rab
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Defending is the game?

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  9. Milner4eva
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Captaining Gorkss next week, what a legend

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      won't play as dropped

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      1. Daniel_tsl
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        Rested

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        1. TheKingThierry
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          Dropped

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  10. Drip Doctor
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    No Diame 🙁

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  11. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    Team for DGW, how does it look?

    Migs

    Baines, Clyne, Shorey

    Bale, Ramirez, Fellaini, Michu (c)

    Long, RvP, Berba (vc)

    Foster, Sterling, Huth, Rafa

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      wait after this GW ends i reckon, lots of thing change after every weekend

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    2. DLL18
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Michu (c) against Norwich? 😯

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    3. Mílanista
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      Decent, Berba(c)

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    4. mutatedllama
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Bad. Quit the game.

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      1. AK ⭐
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Pathetic comment. Quit the forum? 🙂

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    5. Breadbin
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      It looks premature. You'll post another 100 different teams with transfers before then.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        as a general rule unless I see someone as essential to bring in or lose I like to save, plus I will have major keeping issues GW17 if Foster isn't fit

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    6. AK ⭐
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      For now, yes it does. Berbs (c)

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  12. super zlatan
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    Thinking ahead to nxt week....

    Worth a hit to being in sess and fletcher?

    Or just bring in one?

    Already have fed, gorkks and Cuellar

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Just one if at all.

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      1. super zlatan
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        Which one though?

        That is the question

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        1. Lateriser 12
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          Fletch i reckon

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    2. Ravanelli
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      just bring in one, not worth a hit as you're then faced with the problem of, just how do I get one or both out of my team now?

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  13. Bun Rab
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Only guy in ML to captain Suarez over RVP. Gonna be interesting.

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  14. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    those bringing in fletch......would you captain him or is that a punt too far

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      8 pt minimum, not a bad shout

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      1. Hubert
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        He's a BAP magnet too

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    2. Optimus.
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      i think i will bring him in for ba and (c)

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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        thinking exactly the same....then fletch to suarez following gw

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  15. FORCA INTER
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    think i will get red arrow this and next gw as well 🙁

    Mata is the man who can save everything

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  16. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    12:45

    Mata's last stand

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    1. dogtanion
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      +1 ..let's hope he signs off with a double figure haul.

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
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        Agreed. I'm selling him for Silva today just as soon as Silva gets through his match unscathed

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  17. Art Vandelay
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    First "non-standard" captaincy of the season. Come on Bale and your Ronaldo-esque free kicks!

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  18. Zep
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    Cuellar (c) for DGW... 2 CS, 1 goal, 5bps all for a 46pt return...

    Biggest success story EVER... 😀

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    1. Daniel_tsl
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      😀

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      not a bad option to capt

      2 cs = 24pts

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    3. Tatty Bojangles
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      2pts.

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    4. Locarno
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      One yellow and four goals conceded = 1 pt.

      Times two, though, to be fair, so it's 2 pts.

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    5. Lateriser 12
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Ello Zep. Long time no see.

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      1. Zep
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        Evening...

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    6. OPTA FPL
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      I actually see many Defenders (C) succeed in DGW: Howard, BAE last year, Ivanovic, Cole, Cech this year

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    7. Zinedine Kilbane
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      unless you had Freddie Ljungberg for arsenals treble gw a few seasons ago

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      1. dogtanion
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        what did he score?

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        1. MCH
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          Like 50 something it was ridiculous.

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        2. Zinedine Kilbane
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          think it was 56, shorey is twice the player but so i think it will be beat next week

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          1. dogtanion
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            what season? christ he was some player..himself and pires would have been prolific scorers

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      2. Zep
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        No I didn't... I did have Rooney a few seasons ago for his DGW 64pt return... that felt very good...

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    8. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      I'm considering captaining a GK 😯 - Mignolet. Good chance of saves and CSs in both games, plus my other options aren't great next week...

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    9. MCH
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      Like that idea actually!

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  19. Daniel_tsl
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    Imagine if Baines doesn't play and Everton get a CS just to piss off all the Baines owners who have him, like me 😆

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      as long as Fellaini scores.

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    2. Mílanista
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      Imagine if Baines scores on my bench and destroys my double City CS...

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      1. Daniel_tsl
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        😆 u got double?? don't u think that's a bit much especially with their next few fixtures?

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Last season:

          City v Everton 2-0
          City v Utd 1-0
          New v City 0-2

          I'm not expecting the same but they can keep a CS against anyone. Besides, with the DGW I can bench one next week.

          Their 4 subsequent fixtures are great.

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  20. Locarno
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    I have ONE Scout pick. And captained him. Ho-hum.

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      Oh you love an under the radar Berbs captain.

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  21. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    my bench looks ridiculous next week

    mata, baines, enrique 😯

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  22. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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    Demel is my only player in the early kick-off, having ditched Hazard... not difficult to guess who I'm rooting for.

    By the way, lads, early benching decision for next week: Demel (LIV), Clyne (RDG), Hughes (NEW), Cameron (avl)? - Atm I reckon Demel.

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    1. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Agree with that.

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    2. @FuzzyWarbles
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      west ham at home v pool? id probably bench clyne or cameron first.

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  23. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    wow just seen the Lambert goal again, how did I not see that Fonte touch until just now?

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  24. Brutus619
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    I actually went through with captaining Rafael. Oh lord what have I done!?

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    1. mutatedllama
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Wow, you're not lying!

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    2. King Nemanja
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      Hope it pays off

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      1. Brutus619
        • 14 Years
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        Cheers, my ML rivals all have my best players and captained VP. Praying the other strikers hog the goals with Rafael assists!

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    3. MountainBeach
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      west ham clean sheet come on 😀

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    4. Your Mum's Athletic
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      WHHAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

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  25. @FuzzyWarbles
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    if mata does nothing, i think i will drop him for sess and captain sess and pray he finds his form.

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    1. faulksp
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      I like the sound of that......then get rid for Theo....

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  26. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    where the adam johnson bandwagon gone? It was on fire after fulham game.

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
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      Dunno about AJ but the Sess-mobile is definitely gone to the mechanics 😛

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Not really. Riding the Sess mobile and its going quite smooth actually.

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      it burnt down

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  27. Mílanista
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    Lateriser, I get it now 😳

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      😉

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      ??????

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      1. Mílanista
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        LR was saying he had Begovic on Monday. I pointed out the game was today, didn't realise he meant Begovic off his bench on Monday.

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  28. Ravanelli
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    I could have sworn I changed my team for midweek so Fellaini was back in my starting line up, was shocked to see he was on my bench. I remember changing my team, think it's my dodgy connection, oh well!

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    1. King Nemanja
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Have a feeling he'll score from a Baines corner today

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    2. Milner4eva
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      i see him as being in your starting eleven

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  29. सनकी
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    So Juan Mata starts?

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    1. King Nemanja
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      Indeed

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    2. faulksp
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      Now lets see a finish !!!!

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  30. Bøwstring The Carp
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    Carroll out for 6-8 weeks with ligament damage

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    1. dogtanion
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      Paul Kitson bandwagon.

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