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17 January 2011 1617 comments
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Roberto Mancini made the surprise decision of fielding his new hit man Edin Dzeko from the start at Eastlands against Mick McCarthy‘s Wolves on Saturday, despite the Bosnian not having participated in a competitive game since mid-December.

The Man City boss also lined City up in his favoured 4-2-3-1 formation and Fantasy Managers far and wide must have feared the worse when Carlos Tevez was moved from the lone front man role that has served him so well to out left, in order to accommodate Dzeko.

As the game developed, however, it became clear that Dzeko’s strength and stature not only gives City a more physical focal point up front, it also affords Tevez a freedom he has barely found all season. The result? Tevez, having scored one goal in his last six games at Eastlands, netted a double and was awarded the three Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Bonus Points.

A look at City’s last two home games shows a marked difference in how Tevez and Dzeko interpret the lone forward role within the City system and suggests that despite the initial reservations of Fantasy Managers, Tevez could be even more of a danger in the second half of the season, with Dzeko already showing a willingness and intelligence that the likes of Jo, Emmanuel Adebayor and Roque Santa Cruz failed to demonstrate.

Tevez v Blackpool

As the heat map against Blackpool shows, Tevez was fairly static in his movement, playing 73% of all passes in the final third of the pitch. He made 26 passes that day but barely a single one was played in his own half as he stayed high up the pitch, which makes him easier to contain for opposition defences. Mancini’s side have been somewhat predictable at Eastlands this season; eight times they have scored just one goal or failed to find the net at all at home. Intriguingly, the only other time they have scored four at home was in game week 20, where an injury to Tevez allowed Mario Balotelli to play the lone striker role and subsequently bag a hat-trick.

The Average Position map also backs this up; Tevez (32) is isolated up top, with Yaya Toure (42) and David Silva (21) a substantial distance behind him. City’s shape doesn’t seem particularly cohesive in this instance, with less fluidity and threat to their play the closer they get to the opposition goal.

Dzeko v Wolves

The Bosnian showed a real understanding of the target man role that showed just why he was so sought-after throughout Europe, with a performance that already suggests he’ll be a fundamental factor in City’s bid for goals and glory as the season unfolds.

This heat map from the Wolves game sums up just how differently Dzeko works the lone front man role. He made 32 passes, with 31% in his own half, as his mobility proved difficult for the Wolves defence to keep him under control. He dropped back to link with the Man City midfield time and again -which culminated in his assist for Yaya Toure‘s goal- thus freeing up the space for Tevez to take advantage of.

Dzeko made just 49% of his passes in the final third, a substantial difference when compared to Tevez above. With a physique seemingly tailor-made for the Premier League, Dzeko already looks like being of great benefit to the team overall.

A look at this Average Position map above shows how, despite the player’s respective positions in the City starting XI, Tevez was positioned just as central and as far forward as Dzeko (10) against Wolves. This, in turn, allowed Yaya Toure to be nearer the forward line, and it showed in a performance that saw the Ivorian grab a goal and 2 FPL Bonus Points for his performance.

Post-match, Dzeko warned there’s plenty more to come as he comes to terms with the English top division:

“The game is different. It is harder than Germany. It is probably going to take me a few games to find my feet, but I am very happy to be here and if we keep winning there will be no problem.

Tevez v Wolves

Tevez showed on Saturday just how much the freer role suits his style; as this Heat Map shows, he floated all over the pitch without restriction; dropping deep and roaming forward, moving central and appearing on the right, thus making a mockery of his left wing starting berth. Tevez also saw far more of the ball, making 44 passes, a huge jump in comparison to his Blackpool performance.

Indeed, Tevez saw more touches of the ball, made more passes and had more successful dribbles than any other forward last weekend. Add his two goals to the mix and the knock-on impact of Dzeko already bodes well for all the Argentine’s Fantasy Owners as the season, and the title race, starts to heat up.

Mancini was also thoroughly impressed by the debutant, saying after the match:

“He played very well for his first game, especially as he has only been with us a week and only recently returned from a winter break.He will get better as he gets used to his new team-mates and I think he will do well alongside Carlos and Mario Balotelli.”

The strength in depth of City’s squad will no doubt see changes in playing personnel over the next few games, but judging by their play going forward on Saturday, Mancini’s formation certainly seems to be one issue that requires little need to change, in light of Dzeko’s acquisition.

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  1. BKR
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    i was thinking of selling tevez to berbs for this DGW.

    however, I am afraid of his price rise...

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    1. BKR
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      this article also gives me confidence 'no need to buy a DGW palyer but Tevez will score for me.' Thanks Sir Paulos

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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        i honestly dont think berbatov is a great option this week. he might only play 1 match

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  2. Attila the Bum
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    Oh but which to get for a wildcard side? I need to make up the difference on the nobgoblins above me.... is Dzeko the man? He's certainly a shiteload more acceptable to me than that scut Balotelli.

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    1. PFOR
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      I've been without Tevez enough this year to know how scary it is not to have him. Keep him and don't bother with Dzeko. Have those nobgoblins got Cesc?

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      1. jamsiep
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        I see my email about Jara has done the trick... Not need to thank me. 😆

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        1. PFOR
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          😡

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  3. goooners
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    who to bench this week??

    Adam, VdV, Nani, Fabregas, Nasri
    Drogba, Odemwingie, DJ Cambell.

    decisions!

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    1. Boom!!!
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      odemwingie n chop the dog.

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      1. SC not pearls before swine
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        +1

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    2. BKR
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      VDV or Drogba??

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      1. BKR
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        sorry for not noticing Odem.. yeah.. bench him

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        1. goooners
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          really, after he's just scored 2 goals and coming to form?

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          1. Boom!!!
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            just scored 2 against the 2nd worst team in the league.

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  4. H Dog
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    Do I need to wildcard? Please tell me because I am itching to press the button

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    1. BKR
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      if your entire team is capable to go for this weekend game, then its not the time.

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    2. Boom!!!
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      no u just need to adjust ur forward line a bit. ur defence looks good for this week n this time i'm not joking.

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    3. goooners
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      do you NEED to?
      Well that depends what your team is and how many changes you want to make. But there are still a few weeks left so you don't have to right now

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    4. Berbatov 9
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      I would say yes definitely, but then again im rubbish at this so..

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  5. Phillips
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    Evening fellas, do I need to WC this week? Sitting in joint 2nd in my minileague 60 behind the leader.

    Robinson Carson
    Coleman Kyrgiakos Kolarov Simpson Foley
    Nani Nasri VdV Adam Barton
    Torres Tevez Drogba

    2 free transfers. 0.2m in the bank.

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      drogba to rooney i reckon

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      Hahahhahahahahahahahaha 😆

      *not laughing at all at the crime, just Locarno's comment.

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    2. Boom!!!
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      lol.

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    3. ggm1982
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      Badwillie would be more appropriate.

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      1. TommyK
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        That was sort of what he was getting at........

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      2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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        thank you, joke explainer.

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    4. HST
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      "The pair were at the party in the early hours after Goodwillie scored"

      You couldn't make it up.

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  6. Boom!!!
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    still super mario will get more game time because mancini is scared of him.

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      Are you.... it can't be....they told me you were dead.... but still is it you? Albert? Albert Einstein? Is that you? Really?

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      1. Boom!!!
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        "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          Amazing thing google isn't it?

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          1. Boom!!!
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            Note: This list of Einstein quotes was being forwarded around the Internet in e-mail, so I decided to put it on my web page. I'm afraid I can't vouch for its authenticity, tell you where it came from, who compiled the list, who Boom is, or anything like that. Still, the quotes are interesting and enlightening.

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            1. PFOR
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              How do you come out with that after weeks of bad grammar?

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        2. Holy See
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          Guess that's you fu*ked then 😉

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  7. TommyK
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    Tevez and Foster or RVP and hart?

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    1. Boom!!!
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      Tevez and Foster.

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  8. offmeheadson
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    Thoughts please?

    Torres to Rooney

    a) very cleaver
    b) you are off your head son, one out of form DGW player for another

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    1. BKR
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      I feel, there wont be any 'logic' to make this move. However, both will rely on luck.

      I really doubt Torres/Rooney/Nani/berbs, DGW favorites might not score well.!!!

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      1. FranktheTank - Success is P…
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        Both struggling, but if i had to pick one would keep torres, nailed on to start both fixtures unlike Shrek and has an extra days rest inbetween

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    2. Declan
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      Rooney on pens, Gerrard still suspended! Go for it!

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  9. BKR
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    who will be the best 'Rafael' replacement?

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      Leonardo fo'shizz. Or Michaelangelo is pretty outrageous dude.

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      1. Boom!!!
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        gary neville.simples.

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        1. Declan
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          He said "best" replacement!

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          1. BKR
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            O'Shea wont be ready for this weekend. right? can i rely on Evans? Vidic & Erva too costly for me..

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            1. Declan
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              Not worth the risk IMO

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              1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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                None are good replacements - rafael will play 1 match and the replacement will play 1 match, so what would be the point?

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      2. BKR
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        🙁

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      3. PFOR
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        Or Donatello?

        Nothing can go wrong with a manager like Splinter 😉

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  10. Albert Cole
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    Considering wildcarding to this - smart?

    van der Sar
    Hughes, Coleman, Kelly
    Fabregas, Nani, Adam, van der Vaart
    Torres, van Persie, Berbatov

    Myhill, Djorou, Ferguson, Murphy
    (all these benched players are looking forward to GW27)

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  11. PanTanti
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    ive already used my wildcard since last week:

    I can play this team:
    Al habsi
    Rafael Hughes Djourou
    Nani Adam Fabs Nzog
    Tev Torres DJ

    Subs: Foster VDV Coleman Bardsley

    8 players with DGW
    Hav 1 free transfer with 0.7 in the bank, should i do any transfers at all since tev is doing so well? and am i benching the right players?

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  12. MAD
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    good article sir P

    One thing though... the people who watched the game probably took note of Mancini signaling for a change to 442 at the 30 minute mark. Tevez was dropped behind Dzeko in the hole and Dzeko played a bit more to the left as the heat maps show. This is the reason behind why Tevez made a mockery of his left wing role, because he wasn't playing there after 30 minutes. When Tevez moved in behind Dzeko he was floating around mostly on his preferred right side cutting in, as seen for the goal.

    We will see how Mancini sets up his team away to Villa, but considering the success they had when Tevez was playing in the free role behind Dzeko, I wouldn't be surprised if he went with 442.

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    1. Anti-Ipswich
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      I'm not sure why City suddenly conceded 3 in one game though. It's very unlike them to concede a huge influx of goals in one game. Could it be that, now that they are effectively playing with two strikers, that Tevez isn't coming back to assist the RB whenever he might need support, something Milner may have done.

      Thoughts?

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      1. MAD
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        The three goals were very random though. Miljas goal was basically an OG from Kolo, penalty was a stupid "tackle" from Lescott, who "fell" on a player not even facing the goal and Zubar was totally unmarked for the corner goal he got.

        What I'm trying to say is that it's very hard to Draw any conclusions from those goals. I also think that Tevez was taken off at 4-1, so he had nothing to do with the goals conceded.

        By playing 442 diamond as Mancini used to play in inter the two midfielders out "wide" should cover for the fullbacks. I can't see Barry, Yaya and Dejong starting if Mancini starts to favour this formation. Barry played as LMF yesterday when they moved to 442, so with Silva coming in at the tip of the diamond we might see Yaya or De Jong dropped. It's hard to say though as their depth of players is getting crazy.

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    2. People in Preston
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      Spot on Mad. But I thought Mancini was screaming at Yaya to drop so they could play 4-4-1-1 (aka 4-4-2). Dzeko upfront, Tevez in the hole (free role) and the mid 4 breaking as and when. Anyway, you make the same valid observation as me from having watched the game.

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  13. jamsiep
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    How the balls does Mancini intend to play Dzeko, Tevez, Balotelli, Silva and Yaya Toure in the same side?!

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    1. PFOR
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      It would make it a whole lot easier if Balotelli f*cked off to Milan and they bought some players who don't mind being benched.

      Or he could rotate.

      Probably the latter.

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    2. Freshy
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      Bench for Milner, Johnson and Barry

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      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Boateng - Toure - Kompany - Kolarov

        Yaya Toure - Yaya Toure

        Silva

        Balotelli - Dzeko - Tevez

        Not a bad side

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        1. Freshy
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          De Jong - Yaya Toure

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  14. Eddy
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    What do you guys think of this wildcard team?

    Begovic Harper
    Rafael Murphy Bardsley Djourou Coleman
    Fabregas Nani Adam N'Zogbia VDV
    Rooney Carroll Tevez

    0.2m in bank.

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  15. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Hi all,

    Would you use your wildcard with this team?

    Foster KRUL
    Coleman Evatt Kolarov RAFAEL KONCHESKY
    Fabregas VDV Nani Adam Barton
    Tevez DROGBA WELBECK

    1.2 in bank, 1 free

    Can I get away with Drogba + Barton/Welbeck/Konchesky for 2 DGWers & a hit? Hopefully Welbeck has recovered.

    Any thoughts appreciated.

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    1. gooner dave
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      I'd play it with that lot. But that's me(also played it this gw)

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    2. Declan
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      Drogba to Rooney
      Konchesky to Skrtel

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      1. Boom!!!
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        drog to torres(so u can finally fit urself in the team)
        kolarov to hangeland/evra

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          I agree on Drogba to Torres. U have to 😉

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    3. FPL Daniel
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      Hi TM, be patient IMO and save it. What is your prediction is any chance of Drogs falling in price tonight? Over 50% at the moment.

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      1. PFOR
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        It's only Monday, he won't drop tonight.

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
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          R u sure, he dropped a lot of times surprisingly . Already more than -8k NTI.

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            I just noticed Drogba when updating my site. I think he has at least one more night. I'm looking at selling him so might do it soon. Finding his replacement is another matter.

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            1. FPL Daniel
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              thanks TM

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  16. jamsiep
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    Since I brought in Adam, Blackpool have collected just 3 league points, yet he's managed 9 bonus points!

    It feels like cheating having him..

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    1. TommyK
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      Pfft. After the way this game's auto-captaincy rule treated me I feel absolutely no guilt whatsover........ 🙂

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      1. PFOR
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        +1

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      in the last dgweek he didn't even make any assists or goals but got 9 points. Ridiculous, i say.

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  17. Rory Rocky man
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    hello thinking of using my wildcard gw27 here is team?let me know what ye think? Foster,al habsi,djourou,coleman,foley,huth,bosingwa,fabs,vdv,nolan,nani,adam,rvp,tevez,carroll,will have 11 playing double week??any comments

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  18. Scroobius Mac
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    Rafael's been charged with misconduct after yesterday.
    Did Neville jus become a steal?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9364561.stm

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    1. gooner dave
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      What's the possible punishment? (I mean for the charge, not for getting Neville in)

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      1. People in Preston
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        10 grand fine and a slap on the wrists. Like Babel.

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    2. Declan
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      Would you really want him in your side?

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    3. TommyK
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      I'm pretty sure o'shea's fit again.......

      (If Fergie has any sense then that West Brom game will have been G Nev's last........)

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  19. TorresMagic™
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    Just noticed the Jara assist got taken away & given to Scharner. K.Toure has still kept his goal though.

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    1. PFOR
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      Toure goal should be gone and Ridgewell should have an own goal.

      It's amazing how many OG's Brum concede.

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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        ridgewell's was definitely an og, it looked like it was going well wide.

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  20. $hahriyar
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9364561.stm

    Rafael charged with misconduct. Why the f*ck cudn't he just have taken the red and gone off. Now he will miss more games and f8cks up my plan. Typical of this season.

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    1. Boom!!!
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      better be late then never!

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      1. Locarno
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        Boom, I know you're 12 or something, but are you drunk?

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        1. Boom!!!
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          i am 12??? n hey i don't drink by the way only my friends does!

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          1. PFOR
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            You're 12 year old friends drink?

            That ought to be reported.

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            1. Boom!!!
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              i'm older than shelvey!

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              1. mvtaylor
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                14 then?

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      2. $hahriyar
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        😕

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    2. Waldaz
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      3 games?

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      1. $hahriyar
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        atleast 😡

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    3. _Freddo
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      Good, respect the refs.

      United think they are above it all.

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  21. Rory Rocky man
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    hello thinking of using my wildcard gw27 here is team?let me know what ye think?

    Foster,al habsi,djourou,coleman,foley,huth,bosingwa,fabs,vdv,nolan,nani,adam,rvp,tevez,carroll,will have 11 playing double week??any comments

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  22. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
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    Definitely thinking about Dzeko now, maybe not this week but definitely after the DGW.

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    1. gooner dave
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      Subtle username there......

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      1. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
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        I don't beat around the bush, I've no need to...I just need to watch Blackpool

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  23. tosey
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    Arsene Wenger is said to be extremely excited about Arsenal's next fixture with Aston Villa after hearing Villa's new strikeforce is Young and Bent

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    1. Locarno
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      hehe - just texted that to every Gooner I know.

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      1. jamsiep
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        I bet he hated it.

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        1. Locarno
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          🙂 He will when I explain it to him.

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  24. Scroobius Mac
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    So Rafael + Hart > Foster + Evra or VDS + 6.3 Defender (4 point hit) worth it?
    I wasn't gonna make any changes this week but I'll be damned if I dont have a Utd defender for the DGW.

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  25. $hahriyar
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    Haven't been on here since yesterday, but I guess the general consensus here on the rafael red card is that it was fair, right? Just been reading too many statements saying otherwise. He clearly knew what he was doin when he chose to go across the player knowing that he is already on a yellow.

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    1. MAD
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      Well in my opinion he should have gone off after his first tackle, it was cynical as hell.

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      1. $hahriyar
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        Yellow it definitely was the first tackle(one foot only) though he went in hard but this much we have to give to the tacklers in the game otherwise it's just gonna be sissy game. But I'm definitely concerned with his attitude as others have pointed out.

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        1. MAD
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          I think it's always cynical when someone comes in studs first. One foot, two foot.. doesn't matter.

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          1. $hahriyar
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            (Shakes his head)For once I wud just like to see how one can slide into the tackle without studs showing, it's physically impossible! If you're goin in studs will show(unless ur standing).

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            1. MAD
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              I never said anything about studs showing... I was talking about studs first. FIRST as in first touching/facing the ball/opponent. I'm really baffled that I have to explain this concept to someone on this forum. Have you ever played football?

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              1. $hahriyar
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 11 months ago

                I get what you're sayin but is there any other way of doing it when you're comin in from the oppsite direction and slide in? Studs will 'come in' first doesn't matter if you get the ball or not that doesn't mean that it's just not acceptable. You shud know better as you've played football that it's just not possible. That's why there are certain limits as how far these tackles can go e.g two footed, how high up and goin for the ball or not.

                So all I'm sayin is that that tackle was not a red card offense alone and that claim cannot be justified by just using the silly 'studs first' argument which is unavoidable when someone slides in.

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    2. Hungover 96
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I'd say it was harsh, but not completely uncalled for. Not that it matters too much, since Man Utd can't contest the red from two yellows IIRC, so Rafael is sure to miss the Birmingham. I'm pretty concerned with his attitude coming off the pitch - latest rumour is some kind of misconduct charge.

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        His first tackle, his waving of the imaginary card to get Palacios booked and his attitude coming off = three-match ban. Dislikeable little tw*t.

        He'll grow up to be El Hadji Diouf, the way he's going.

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    3. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I watched the replay a couple of times now, it looks like he was going too fast, he was clumsy and instead of trying to run around Ekotto, he clipped his heels because he got too close to him. Having said that, I still reckon he deserves the red for it in addition to his previous offence. He should have been more careful.

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    4. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Even if it wasn't intentional, it was still a yellow card offence.

      When is Rooney getting charged by the FA? His reaction was equally pathetic, if not worse...

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      1. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah the Orc looked like his head was going to pop off didn't it?!

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      2. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Did you see the Barton yellow?

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        1. thehodge
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          I didnt think that was a yellow Attila.

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            An accidental handball is NEVER a yellow. Worst booking I have ever seen.

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        2. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          No, but I've seen his passing chalkboards... Dreadful, 40% pass completion!

          Perhaps that's why he didn't get the 3 BPs you thought he deserved!

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            Fair enough if thats what the chalkboards say, but he completely ran the game. Young whatshisfaceeveryonelovesmrfutureenglandinternational didnt get a look in. Bartons role was slightly different as when Smith got subbed he had to do a more defensive job but despite what the stats say, he ruled that game - owned as you youngsters like to say.

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    5. David Davros
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      thought it was a weak red. First one he got the ball, fair enough yellow but the second was barely even a foul!

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      1. MAD
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Doesn't really matter if you get the ball when you come studs first both feet off ground...

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        1. David Davros
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          I suppose i should see it again but that's not how i remember it...

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  26. Goldtop73
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    If Rafael is out and O'Shea a doubt.. are we looking at a johnny evans return?

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      its not worth it to play rafaels replacement anyway though, as they would only play 1 game (and rafael the other).

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      1. Goldtop73
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        he's got 3 game ban

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        1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          excellent news actually - price drop just in time for gw 27 wc 😀 well in that case i think its a bit of a gamble to guess his replacement, neville played the last one but was really poor so not sure if it would be him, o'shea or even wes brown.

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  27. David Davros
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Crikey, i could do Rafael to Vidic but then i'll have to bench someone i don't want to.

    All my Kolarov chat has got me too scared to bench him.

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      play rafa he will score against b'pool.

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      1. David Davros
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Not if he's suspended he won't.

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    2. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      😀 I bet he finally does something this week on my bench! That would be the most annoying thing ever!

      Kolarov = season keeper. 😉

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        He's put in 40 crosses, 38 unsuccessful ones... That could and should change now that Dzeko has arrived. He could rake in the assists

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      2. David Davros
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, that's why i might just save the transfer. wouldn't put it past City to murder Villa so it's not a bad option.

        Feels like making a transfer that encourages me to bench Kolarov is just asking for trouble.

        We all know the week is coming....

        (by we all i mean about 4 people)

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Me, you, bonkers, MFaulkner...

          The Kolarov loyalists.

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            Oi *ahem*! The Famous Five Kolarov's

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            1. MAD
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              +1

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          2. Boom!!!
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            An ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness.

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            1. Attila the Bum
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              Keep up the good work Boom.

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            2. Waldaz
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              Now close the wikipedia tab.

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  28. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    People selling Tevez for Dzeko are fool in my opinion. People that don't have Tevez are bigger fools 🙂

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Amazing what a bit of copy and paste can do. Almost makes you seem literate Boom.

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      2. David Davros
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        What about the limit of 1/x as x approaches 0?

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  29. Team Hayemaker
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone going to take a gamble on Darren Bent for GW24 with Villa's DGW!?

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